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 1120 Park Avenue - PJ South, any comments?

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twincharger07
post May 24 2011, 10:20 PM

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QUOTE(ArticFir3 @ May 24 2011, 02:31 PM)
Excuse my naiveness, but this is my first time buying property. And never for 1 moment I hoped for this construction to be delayed like you accused me smile.gif If you think you're so smart, why did you even invest in this unit? I thought you're so clever to be able to foresee this delay in construction smile.gif And your statement of "developer no money" is basically your assumption. So far, they've not done any withdrawal with bank panels yet (as far as I've known since my bank panel has not informed me of any withdrawal). Which translate to the contractor having tons of cash flow to be able to fund the project on it's own expenses.

Well, I wouldn't want to be any close neighbor to you as well as I find you childish by calling people names smile.gif Calling people names ain't the best way to give a proper impression. Just like Anuar calling Najib names  icon_idea.gif  icon_idea.gif

Anyway, don't bother trying to make this a flame war as mods has been alerted to this. I've just replying your post as a gesture of good will to your token of appreciation  icon_rolleyes.gif  icon_rolleyes.gif
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Progressive withdrawal is based on developement stages as per your schedule in your SNP.... At each stage of development, bank will disburse payment to the developer and usually first 10% will be disbursed for foundation work... later depending on your unit level.. the higher it is, the later it will be....

if they belum withdraw from your bank is even more scary, it could be no progress at all.... that's common sense...
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post May 24 2011, 10:50 PM

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QUOTE(cmk96 @ May 24 2011, 10:38 PM)
what you said is common knowledge. the point is, even now the bank have not made the first drawdown. peter SA repeated many times that they can sell cheap coz they do not need to borrow money to built 1120 (ofcoz they have our initial 10% deposit with them).

to confirm this, you can ask your bank regarding the drawdown have been made or not. my info might be outdated.
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well, i tot the downpayment is discounted and only RM500 booking fee?
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post May 25 2011, 12:41 AM

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QUOTE(0106127 @ May 25 2011, 12:34 AM)
which part on earth that if there is no draw down means no development??

and which part of the statement above is common sense??

no draw down doesn't mean no development !!!

where is your common sense??
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Its up to your interpretation... I rather see bank disbursement every now and then at least I know at what stage it is progress according to the schedule... the thing is 1120 had been so long but some owner said no 1st drawdown yet ... maybe there is development, maybe the progress is slow...
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post May 25 2011, 09:47 AM

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QUOTE(106127 @ May 25 2011, 01:32 AM)
bank disbursement doesn't mean = to progress according to schedule. read the previous thread
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post Jun 4 2011, 04:42 PM

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QUOTE(ch_leong @ Jun 4 2011, 01:36 PM)
Looks like peter is in big trouble
Selangor government wanted to take over their land
http://penpasksgb.blogspot.com/2011/06/mb-...ah-di-pjs1.html
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This is serious shit as i also dont hope this to happen as a fren of mine had bought a unit there... sad.gif

But i think as long as no disbursement from bank to developer yet, at most also rugi the the booking and downpayment...
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post Jun 5 2011, 10:33 AM

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QUOTE(cmk96 @ Jun 5 2011, 10:13 AM)
maybe they should think who they are in the first place... do they own the land?
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Anyone of us doesn't really understand what is the story behind, thus it is unfair to judge the 20 families just like that.. as buyers of cos we would want to protect our interest but the developer and government should hav settle the dispute among themselves..

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post Jun 5 2011, 11:19 AM

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QUOTE(rachel9966 @ Jun 5 2011, 10:41 AM)
Squatters consists of people occupying an abandoned or unoccupied space or building, usually residential, that the squatter does not own, rent or otherwise have permission to use.
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It is humanitarian issue.. this is where "human's true colour" reveal when ppl place self interest above other ppl's well being.. they might be squatters, but might not be criminal.. it is a basic human needs to hav a shelter above their head.. Hey.. these are HUMAN BEINGS.. HUMAN BEINGS like you and me..

Despite having court order, it could be "legally right" but that does not mean "morally right" .. what had our long years education had taught us about sympathy and compassion..

We had never stand in their shoes and understand from their position, they do not need us to treat them as criminal but they want us to understand that we are all human beings who have equally rights to have access to basic necessities..

Government should hav stepped in to resolve this issue.. WTH with the motto "Person First" where they chase ppl out from their basic needs.. WTH with all the developer's "Coporate Social Resposibility" where they just show their face in orphanage but kick other ppl out from their shelter.. Their acting is even better than Hollywood.... something for us to ponder..

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post Jun 5 2011, 12:24 PM

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QUOTE(20yrsinsrisentosa @ Jun 5 2011, 12:17 PM)
nice speech... but think twice if ever ch_leong's post #2539 (RM30k) and cutealex's post #2543 (landed house) are fact because like awiekupo's post #2521 (greedy knows no boundaries..), Greedy doesn't appeared to be a chapter of moral in our long years of education.
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Its a choice to uphold or leave our morality behind..
As mentioned.. no one knows what is the actual story behind (do you?).. no one stand on their side and understand what is the actual story.. too much here say and everyone has their own stories and assumption.. looking back at their post, it seems that the indian family are the victims..
They want a house, not 30k.. maybe they are given what they are not promised..
Only 1 truth, they are forced to leave their shelter..


Added on June 5, 2011, 1:13 pm

More stories..
http://thestar.com.my/news/story.asp?file=...0676&sec=nation

They sign up for LOW COST FLAT.. are they greedy??
Block E Buyers action committee chairman M. Sugumaran said the residents had vowed not to budge until the Petaling Jaya City Council (MBPJ) and Selangor GovernĀ­ment provided them with rent money and ex-gratia payments for the low-cost flats they signed up to buy in 2004.

They were place intentionaly in PPR Lembah Subang and PJS1 longhouses.. what can they do if their promised flats were not built? Citizen shouldn't pay for the dispute and mistakes done by either government or developer..
The residents are part of a group of squatters who were moved to PPR Lembah Subang and PJS1 longhouses eight years ago with the offer of low-cost flats. The flats have not been built.


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post Jun 5 2011, 01:26 PM

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QUOTE(20yrsinsrisentosa @ Jun 5 2011, 01:18 PM)
after all, he said only 1 truth... guys, will the 1120 site closed and stop working at all in the past few days is only our illusion or only to him...?
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Read my previous post again with the news article..

Dont get me wrong as no one wants an abandone project, I m also worried for a fren of my who owns a unit and I am sure you will get your PA1120 in 2 to 3 years time.. I am just sadden how the whole situation is being handled by the G, court and developer.. and I believe the indian families are victims rather than wrongly accused..

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post Jun 5 2011, 01:49 PM

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QUOTE(sam59 @ Jun 5 2011, 01:33 PM)
why are there no one backing us up? and why are they getting the support and pity?
because they are squatters? and we are rich people?
we are not rich and we are on the losing side..
most of us is buying house for the first time and putting our hard earned money we got from our own sweat..
they are putting no sweat at all and getting all the attention!!!
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We are not rich.. they are not rich either.. my point is.. they dont deserve to be finger pointed as they are also victim same as the rest of the buyers..

The major issue here is how the authority and developer handle the issue .. both side has to win.. no one wants to see one side winning, one side losing..

The issue is getting the right authority to resolve the dispute rather than getting 1 side win and getting to other side lose..

What I see most of your post are the way to solve this issue is by forcing them to leave the land.. We should know who to pressure, its the G, authority and developer to solve the dispute rather than forcing them to live without a shelter.. they are equally victimized like you.. understand?? shakehead.gif


Added on June 5, 2011, 1:55 pm
QUOTE(20yrsinsrisentosa @ Jun 5 2011, 01:47 PM)
does everybody happy with twincharger's assurance who does not own a unit like us but his friend, does not from P, G or etc?  i am a simple person, let say... at least i trust him.

wondering there are always a single side of a matter to you, a truth, a victim... for our information. we are a victim too, to the opposite party. but you are not victim of any side, you are a good friend... a good friend of a victim like us that spoke for the other side.
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Thank you for ur understanding.. sometimes when we are in their shoe, we can know how vulnerable they are as i think they are poorer than anyone of us.. approaching the right party to resolve issue, helping to each other will be a better way than accusing them illegally occupying the space.. they are human, they need shelter too sad.gif .. PA1120 have 2 to 3 more years to get your shelter, but they need it even badly right here right now..

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post Jun 5 2011, 06:42 PM

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QUOTE(rachel9966 @ Jun 5 2011, 05:13 PM)
I read all your comment on this page... all you said is indian family are the victims... what is your comment for a solution? at least i see cmk96 said built another floor of condo to house them.

the real story seems told in the links given by forumers few days ago. maybe you didn't read them.
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It is quite endless discussion... anyway... I do hope both parties are able to settle this issue in a good term... everyone has different views on this .. i do read all post including news articles online and offline.. as I mention, I am also concern for a fren..

I rest my case here...



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