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post Dec 20 2009, 10:31 AM

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QUOTE(attap @ Dec 20 2009, 10:24 AM)
Meaning can tune to other birds too  :hehe:
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Yes, but only in the same position (91.5E). Measat "own" that position in space so it is unlikely that anything other than Astro will ever appear there!
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post Dec 20 2009, 10:33 AM

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QUOTE(AstInst @ Dec 20 2009, 10:31 AM)
Yes, but only in the same position (91.5E). Measat "own" that position in space so it is unlikely that anything other than Astro will ever appear there!
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What if my dish got blown by strong wind and the position is off a little bit?
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post Dec 20 2009, 10:34 AM

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QUOTE(AstInst @ Dec 20 2009, 10:23 AM)
Yes, Satcodx is a site ran by enthusiasts so it is only as up to date as the team keep it.

Most data is auto scanned by a PC with a satellite card and the data posted online when changes occur. Looking at the data it looks as though the person doing the autoscan is in Indonesia this could indicate two reasons as to why Measat 3a is not listed.

1. The Measat 3a footprint is very closely aligned with Malaysia, they may simply be outside the footprint.
2. The equipment is usually in someones home and the individual scanning Measat 3a could be in a communal feed building. In this case their equipment would never see Measat 3a for the same reasons that Astro B.yond cannot be installed. (See my previous post)

Even with missing data, the site is very useful....

The date of the scan is quite obvious due to presence of BBCE! ;-)

Depending on how and when the autoscan occurs the video bitrate will be different, from memory the SatCoDX site shows the lowest bitrate of the transmission during the autoscan period, hence the bitrates mentioned should be given little regard and will vary month on month.
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nice... judging by all the scans they could do, they can watch those channels for life lol. Also its still questionable how they could get to bypass most encrypted channels to scan for all these statistics, unless they have good insiders brows.gif
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post Dec 20 2009, 10:35 AM

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QUOTE(smileguy @ Dec 20 2009, 07:15 AM)
I wonder why satcodx doesnt update now,the last update was 17-11-09 sad.gif
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check this site for more updated listings
http://www.asiatvro.com/channel/index.html
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post Dec 20 2009, 10:37 AM

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Hopefully by next week they will install byond at my house.... notworthy.gif even i live in "kampung" area...

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QUOTE(Skylinestar @ Dec 20 2009, 10:35 AM)
check this site for more updated listings
http://www.asiatvro.com/channel/index.html
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aiks...banana here... would refer to http://lyngsat.com
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post Dec 20 2009, 10:39 AM

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QUOTE(attap @ Dec 20 2009, 10:33 AM)
What if my dish got blown by strong wind and the position is off a little bit?
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All that would happen is that you would loose Astro and get nothing. If your dish moved and by luck happened to be pointed at another satellite then you would need a box from that provider.

I think what Astro are trying to do is fix all the Astro B.yond installations so that in the future they could put more satellites in to space at the same position, giving us more channels from one dish (hopefully HD). Some satellite broadcasters have more than 5 satellites in the same position. Look at SatCoDX for Direct TV (USA) and BSkyB (UK).

The fixing of the communal systems is their only choice if we want more than the current number of channels. :stars:
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post Dec 20 2009, 10:41 AM

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QUOTE(kaspersky-fan @ Dec 20 2009, 10:37 AM)
aiks...banana here... would refer to http://lyngsat.com
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Thats worst not updated too/ vmad.gif
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post Dec 20 2009, 10:45 AM

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QUOTE(AstInst @ Dec 20 2009, 10:39 AM)
All that would happen is that you would loose Astro and get nothing. If your dish moved and by luck happened to be pointed at another satellite then you would need a box from that provider.

I think what Astro are trying to do is fix all the Astro B.yond installations so that in the future they could put more satellites in to space at the same position, giving us more channels from one dish (hopefully HD). Some satellite broadcasters have more than 5 satellites in the same position. Look at SatCoDX for Direct TV (USA) and BSkyB (UK).

The fixing of the communal systems is their only choice if we want more than the current number of channels. rclxub.gif
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post Dec 20 2009, 10:47 AM

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QUOTE(kaspersky-fan @ Dec 20 2009, 10:34 AM)
nice... judging by all the scans they could do, they can watch those channels for life lol. Also its still questionable how they could get to bypass most encrypted channels to scan for all these statistics, unless they have good insiders  :hehe:
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To scan the channels you do not need to decrypt them and it does not follow that you can view them.

The data you see is transmitted as DVB SI (Digital Video Broadcasting Service Information), this is unencrypted and is used to describe the channels so the decoder can receive them and only then start decryption.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Digital_Video_Broadcasting

If you want do this yourself buy a PC Satellite card such as WinTV-DVB-s from Hauppage, see http://www.hauppauge.com/html/dvb_s.htm. You will be able to look at all the SI data you can eat, but able to watch nothing as these PC cards dont have any decryption at all.
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post Dec 20 2009, 10:52 AM

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QUOTE(AstInst @ Dec 20 2009, 10:47 AM)
To scan the channels you do not need to decrypt them and it does not follow that you can view them.

The data you see is transmitted as DVB SI (Digital Video Broadcasting Service Information), this is unencrypted and is used to describe the channels so the decoder can receive them and only then start decryption.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Digital_Video_Broadcasting

If you want do this yourself buy a PC Satellite card such as WinTV-DVB-s from Hauppage, see http://www.hauppauge.com/html/dvb_s.htm. You will be able to look at all the SI data you can eat, but able to watch nothing as these PC cards dont have any decryption at all.
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ah those... i did consider buying it, but looking at the situation... at most i could view is fta channels or maybe neighbouring country sats... but its really problematic when it comes to the dish...i dont live in a secluded area... cant take such risk

i didnt know they have the SI thing, now it clears my misconception =), thanks!
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post Dec 20 2009, 11:02 AM

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pic taken from my hp. what i found the sound is more clear & loud when i switch the setting digital audio setting from stereo to dolby digital. and the logo DD appear on my receiver.

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post Dec 20 2009, 11:03 AM

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Astro Byond is already here in Cheras at 10:30am on Sunday. Cheers Mate !
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post Dec 20 2009, 11:06 AM

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QUOTE(tHeRiDdLeR @ Dec 20 2009, 11:02 AM)
adapter & epg taken from my hp.
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Can you post some photo of the setup menu please?
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post Dec 20 2009, 11:22 AM

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QUOTE(mengga @ Dec 20 2009, 11:03 AM)
Astro Byond is already here in Cheras at 10:30am on Sunday. Cheers Mate !
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astro installer also working in sunday??y i not yet get..at damansara no installer to install??when u all register the astro b-yond??
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post Dec 20 2009, 11:25 AM

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I register on Friday the 11th online, got 1st call on 12th, then got 2nd & 3rd call on 16th. Till now no news from installer.
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post Dec 20 2009, 11:29 AM

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Hi there AstInst,

Just a couple of questions. No need to be technical, a simple yes or no will do.

1. So in a centralized building/condo, everything including the cables inside the walls in each home need to be hacked and replaced?

2. When the centralized system has been upgraded, will everyone in the building still with old SD decoder will be forced to subscribe to B.yond and upgrade the decoder?

Thanks in advance for your answer.

If yes to both questions, I might go against management rules and install individual dish.
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post Dec 20 2009, 11:40 AM

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QUOTE(aiman04 @ Dec 20 2009, 11:29 AM)
Hi there AstInst,

Just a couple of questions. No need to be technical, a simple yes or no will do.

1. So in a centralized building/condo, everything including the cables inside the walls in each home need to be hacked and replaced?

2. When the centralized system has been upgraded, will everyone in the building still with old SD decoder will be forced to subscribe to B.yond and upgrade the decoder?

Thanks in advance for your answer.

If yes to both questions, I might go against management rules and install individual dish.
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My brief answers..

1. So in a centralized building/condo, everything including the cables inside the walls in each home need to be hacked and replaced? No, only the wiring that is shared, the last bit of wire from the central system to your home can remain as it is. Everything that is shared will need to be replaced.

2. When the centralized system has been upgraded, will everyone in the building still with old SD decoder will be forced to subscribe to B.yond and upgrade the decoder? As the building is rewired all existing SD decoders remain the same, they all use Measat 3 and the new upgraded system can see Measat 3 just as before. Astro B.yond media boxes will use the new centralized system to tune to Measat 3a for HD, this is whilst anyone else can remain tuned to SD on Measat 3 without problems. Remember that the Astro B.yond media box can tune to both Measat 3 for SD and Measat 3a for HD and must be able to do this independent of any other decoder, old or new, connected to the centralized system. The rewired centralized system allows each decoder to work independently as if it had its own dish. A centralized system that has not been rewired is permanently tuned to Measat 3 (on the vertical polarity only)
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QUOTE(AstInst @ Dec 20 2009, 11:40 AM)
My brief answers..

1. So in a centralized building/condo, everything including the cables inside the walls in each home need to be hacked and replaced? No, only the wiring that is shared, the last bit of wire from the central system to your home can remain as it is. Everything that is shared will need to be replaced.

2. When the centralized system has been upgraded, will everyone in the building still with old SD decoder will be forced to subscribe to B.yond and upgrade the decoder? As the building is rewired all existing SD decoders remain the same, they all use Measat 3 and the new upgraded system can see Measat 3 just as before. Astro B.yond media boxes will use the new centralized system to tune to Measat 3a for HD, this is whilst anyone else can remain tuned to SD on Measat 3 without problems. Remember that the Astro B.yond media box can tune to both Measat 3 for SD and Measat 3a for HD and must be able to do this independent of any other decoder, old or new, connected to the centralized system. The rewired centralized system allows each decoder to work independently as if it had its own dish. A centralized system that has not been rewired is permanently tuned to Measat 3 (on the vertical polarity only)
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Thanks for the answer bro. In even shorter:

1. No, only the main shared trunk cable.
2. No.

OK, I'll for an answer from my management then. Thanks again.
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post Dec 20 2009, 11:51 AM

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QUOTE(pirateguy @ Dec 20 2009, 11:25 AM)
I register on Friday the 11th online, got 1st call on 12th, then got 2nd & 3rd call on 16th. Till now no news from installer.
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I registered last Saturday. When an installer appeared an hour ago. I was shocked to see the work order containing my house and H/p no that I have 10 years ago and the installer cannot call me, so just appear at my door. Although Astro CS called you with correct number, probably the logistic dept. has other numbers. So check this mate, especially if you think that you should received the call, especially for more than 10 years subscriber. Just a tip here. The more the merrier !

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