to paint a house isnt that hard,u just need 2 learn how to roll the roller to get even surface.rather than hiring ppl,why dont u do it slowly interiorly on weekends?i mean,after u done painting the interior,then go slowly 2 the exterior ,start from the backyard ..then slowly,as u think u need 2 go to higer level,then hire ppl for the dangerous part..aint it easy ?u can do it slowly wat..filling ur spare time with work and sweating u out.

I just bought 7 cans of Nippon satin glo barley white...RM70/can....Will spent my time painting my living room and kitchen during long holiday......

Well, if he says Jotun is just so so quality, then ask him is it MPM is the best quality paint around town? Yes, practically every person working in MPM is experienced and almost all also from ICI Dulux before moving to MPM because even the boss of this company is the one previously working in in ICI Dulux as the National Decorative Manager who retired a few year backs before starting MPM.

There are a few ways to determine whether MPM is better than Jotun or even KCC, Colourland and others.

Firstly, MPM is made by PAR Kansai Paint. You can ask him to show you the can and look at the back where they will write manufactured by whosoever..
Secondly, it is only 4.5L which means less 10% from those 5L.

Thirdly, if MPM's paint is made by PAR Kansai, the paint will be second grade paint. It's very simple. If you are the boss of PAR Kansai and MPM approach you to ask you to make the paint for them, will you give them the first grade paint? If you give them the first grade paint, then how are you going to survive in the market when MPM's marketing strategy is much better than yours? So, you'll automatically give MPM the 2nd grade paint. Am I not right?
And furthermore, PAR Kansai Paint has their own second grade paint called the Goody Paint selling at a much lower price than MPM's..
A few months back, those Kansai Paint's men came out and said that why are the people buying MPM when their Goody has the same quality at a lower price. Now, MPM is in the midst of setting up their own factory.

And also price vs quality..
Ask your friend how much is the MPM selling and compare to others 5L. Add 10% of the price and see if MPM paint is really cheap. And the quality, ask him how good is it..

Ask him to show you some color books(not those catalogue but the color books that show you pictures). Maybe that will give you inspiration.

Personally, I would like the feature wall(the wall behind your bed) to be in a slightly darker colour than the rest of the walls in the room.
1. Of course Maxilite won't. Calculate it yourself. An 18L Maxilite costs RM60-63. A 7L costs 30-33..

2. Depending on the conditions. These info can be found behind the can of paint.
It will be cheaper if you buy the paint yourself and hire some Indon painter to paint.

3. I'll suggest Sissons or Jotun. KCC has some sort of fragrance smell. Avoid it if you have infant and planned to move in asap. So far, Jotun ans Sissons don't seem to have any strong smell. You'll only smell it if you place your nose right in front of the paint.

4 and 5 tak boleh tolong. I'm not staying in KL.
Wow, satin glo @ RM70..very cheap indeed.

This post has been edited by trdcelica: Dec 30 2009, 08:32 PM

I also planning to paint my house soon. I already ask one painter and he quote we the labour cost is similar as the paint cost. In my case, the paint cost will be 2.5k max and the labour also 2.5k (interior and external).

now you know why is it the same price?

very cheap......i got RM86 per cal 5 L with free 8 100 Plus

This post has been edited by asiatrader98: Dec 31 2009, 11:23 PM

How about TOA paints?? Coz i knew the main distributor..

any comment to TOA paint ?

Quality-wise not bad and not too good..
Worth trying..
This company was first initiated in Malaysia by someone who worked before for Nippon Paint and then KCC Paint then only TOA but now letak jawatan already..

I think the distributor is Paintrade..Am I right?

when does this idea comes in the market?
if my paint cost 2.5k i kena pay the labour 2.5k ka?
is this like buy 1 house for the price of 2 ?


i know 1 painter (chinese uncle) PJ old town, he cat my neighbour whole exterior house ...
those 1970 old double story ... charge only less than 1k.

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Added on January 2, 2010, 2:40 amQUOTE(yeeck06 @ Dec 30 2009, 04:48 PM)
I just bought 7 cans of Nippon satin glo barley white...RM70/can....Will spent my time painting my living room and kitchen during long holiday......



i got 100/per can ... shacks ...

mine sharing where you got such a good deal ...

This post has been edited by blasto: Jan 2 2010, 02:40 AM

woww...u sure seems to know quite a bit about paints...excuse my idioty, what is actually the difference between 1st grade paint & 2nd grade paint? to me, paint is paint, didn't know there's such big difference...with exception to those odorless or easy clean type...i don't know how to tell good or bad paint except for their brand name...

it seems you're quite a Jotun supporter....but if MPM is second grade paint, what about ICI? i quite like the ICI Pentalite Classic range...MPM has too few color choices...unlike ICI...and...since MPM is second grade rated, i think i will go back to basic with ICI Dulux...

another questions, not sure if you can help, but since you know so much bout paint...how to achieve those really really smooth & matte wall finish? i was at McClients' Florist in SS2 (the corner house converted to florist opposite Old Taste Coffee) and their wall finish is surreal...very very smooth with no bumps what so ever...i first tot it must be some kind of plaster board cos its amazingly flat & smooth...but when i knocked on them (with my fist la, not hammer) i was surprised its actually concrete wall...perhaps someone is kind enough to just visit that place & then can advice how to actually achieve that effect? cos i dunno how to explain them in words...definitely cant take picture..even if can also wont be able to tell difference in photo...you need to feel it with your palms...even i try to explain to my reno contractor also he not able to understand...so far, that's the only place i know has got that really smooth & matte wall finish...

Yes..paint is paint..but there are still some different grades and quality of paint..
For example, you painted half of your wall with a RM40 exterior wall Brand Unknown and the other half painted with RM 115 exterior paint Dulux W/Shield..Will they be the same? And MPM also, they asked other brand to produce paint for them. Maybe you need to know more about paint then only you'll understand how the quality varies..

You want to achieve smooth wall? Ask someone who is really experienced in scheme coating to scheme coat for you. Using USG to smoothen the wall. USG Scheme Coat is better than ASG..Maybe you should ask your reno contractor if they can get the superb smooth and flat wall you mentioned. That's only what I know about.

Best price I found so far:

Nippon Water Based Sealent/Primer: RM160 for 20L
Matex White Ceiling: RM60 18L
ICI Weathershield: RM270-300*(for new color range) for 20L

Although most hardware shop have 20L pack (trade/project size) not every shop carry a broad range.

This shop called GST hardware in Bandar Puteri and OKR (near Brother Accs around Petaling Utama) carry a lot of trade/project size color selection. This help to save at least 20% off when you buy in bulk.

every now and then.. we come to the issue of selecting nice colour scheme.. whether for our new home or existing home.. that we want to give some refresh..

Question : we is the best place we can read / ask/ get help on paint colour scheme ?

are there any service that provide good colour scheme advice?

I've been to some of my friends house.., where they re-paint the house or certain area with the colour of their choice.. , problem is.. the colour combination looks awkward.. and out of the place..

so I think, while we talk about paint.. paint.., it also good to touch a bit on colour combination or colour scheme advice.. Noobs like me have been hunting around bookshop.. go to show-house.. , hotel.. (pullman got nice colour scheme - exterior and interior) just to get an idea of nice colour scheme.

thank you for any advice or link shared..

May I know what is USG Scheme Coat or ASG ?

Hi, anyone heard of Color Solutions from ICI? Anyone knows what's the price per litre for such custom-made colors? And of course, where to get good price?

Thanks

Scheme coat ?

should be Skim Coat

skim coat...wowww...from what i understand, skim coat is like applying a layer of 'mud' like compound and keep skimming it until flat & smooth...pretty much like how they smooth out plaster ceilings' edges or holes, joints etc....

woowww..so many walls...must be very expensive to skim throughout...hrrmm.....need to think 3-4 more times....for walls, after skimming need to sand paper off...then only apply undercoat...alot of work lehh....

It depends on the color and product..

isn't it same price for whatever color we mix? i'm looking at 'pearl glo' type of finishing

3M painters blue tape.
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Yesterday I go to Ace Hardware to look for painter tape.. I saw at youtube and books, they're using 3M blue painter tape.

but.. when i found 1.., my eyes couldn't believe the price..!




wah so expensive?

small one cost RM33.00.. and a little bit bigger set you back at RM55.00 and up to 88.00 ringgit.

why laa so expensive?

can I substitute it with normal masking tape?

or is there any special with this blue tape?