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post Oct 15 2006, 05:53 PM

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i contacted sony a few days ago,asked about the arrival of the VPL VW50

it'll arrive tentatively in early november,good news for loaded people who are getting this FP

since the ruby is 32999,and in the USA it is 2x more expensive than the pearl

im guessing 16,999 for this pearl

im waiting for their reply of the price.
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post Oct 17 2006, 04:13 PM

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u wont notice coz of AA.. try to see/compare distant texture

btw 720p is already enough on my 32" samsung

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post Oct 17 2006, 07:48 PM

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really can't wait for them to Demo the Pearl Here.It's an awesome FP.

Some say it could give 70-75% of the performance of the Marantz 1080p Projector which is about US$20k.This Fine 3 Chip LCD 1080p Projector is US$5k.1/4th of the price.

C'mon sony,november aint a long way to go !
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post Oct 20 2006, 01:25 AM

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Just bought a Sharp 32BX LCD. When trying to connect to my PC using VGA, should i Should i set it as "Analogue Monitor" or "HDTV". Choosing either one will give me different setting option in my TV:

1) Analogue Monitor: I can set it at 1360x768/60hz with full screen with good picture qauality. But under PC setting in the tv lots of option grey out, like color, tint and sharper and i cant adjust any of it. Text is sharp and readable.

2) HDTV: I set it to 720P with 1360x768, but on the tv screen can only display 1280x720 with 70hz and there is black bar at the sides, 1360x768 option in the tv is not selectable. When i use the tv stretch function everything is stretch. No problem with DVD but picture quality not as good compare to "Analogue Monitor" mode.

So i would like to know which mode u guys using and what is the resolution u can get, even though u may be using a different brand and model.

Millions thanks...
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post Oct 20 2006, 07:26 AM

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me, using the vga-in/analogue monitor of coz..
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post Oct 20 2006, 09:40 AM

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QUOTE(eone @ Oct 20 2006, 07:26 AM)
me, using the vga-in/analogue monitor of coz..
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Mind telling me what brand and mosel u are using? And i assume u are using 1360x768 right, or may be 1366x768?

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post Oct 20 2006, 02:41 PM

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QUOTE(tong1774 @ Oct 20 2006, 09:40 AM)
Mind telling me what brand and mosel u are using? And i assume u are get 1360x768 right, or may be 1366x768?
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Samsung LA32T51B

yep 1360x768... and DVI only can support 1280x768

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post Oct 20 2006, 03:47 PM

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QUOTE(eone @ Oct 20 2006, 02:41 PM)
Samsung LA32T51B

yep 1360x768... and DVI only can support 1280x768
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So do u manage to adjust some advance setting when u set it as analog monitor? Have u compare analog monitor mode 1360x768 with hdtv mode 1280x768? And which one has a better quality. for text i have tried and 1360 looks better, but cant tell the difference when playing DVD.
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post Oct 21 2006, 08:45 AM

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using 1360x768 vga samsung 40r71
sharper compare to component output 720p fr video card.
1080i comp out is clearer but black bar seen., need to overscan.

can refer to http://pixelmapping.wikispaces.com/

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QUOTE(psp _BOY @ Oct 8 2006, 11:20 AM)
1080i is supported by most 720p TV's,1080i is basically 540p.1080p however is beyond reach of all 720p TV's since its more than 2 times more resolution than 720p.
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Sorry if i am wrong.
To fully dispaly 1080i pictures , u need a native 1080p panel.
But by using scaling , a 1368x768 panel able to show 1080i, but u may not able to see the true effect of 1080i.
In a good lcd tv 1080p with good scaler ,a 1080i HDTV can be as good as 1080p, refer to
http://blog.hometheatermag.com/geoffreymor...7061080iv1080p/

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post Oct 21 2006, 12:07 PM

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A 1080i source in a 1080p HDTV can be deinterlaced to produce a progressive image.
A good scaler like the DVDO VP20, 30, 50 can properly deinterlace or upscale all sources to 1080p.

So instead of buying an awefully expensive 1080p SD-DVD player,standard DVD players with upscaling up to 1080i, (Pioneer's DV989i) can be deinterlaced to 1080p with the help of an internal scaler of a 1080p HDTV, receiver, or scaler like the DVDO.

There are only so much SD-DVD players which can upscale to 1080p. Some of the known brands are Denon (A1XV(A) has an internal DVDO scaler brows.gif ), Marantz (DV9600) , Arcam , and NeoDigit Helios.

The best 720p or 1080i upscaling SD-DVD like Pioneer's DV989i and Yamaha's DVD-S2500 offer tremendous performance for half the price of 1080p SD-DVD players. Unfortunately,only if u have a 1080p HDTV.

Many 1080p HDTVs deinterlace 1080i to its progressive format, 1080p. Although most 1080p TVs sold currently does'nt accept a direct 1080p input, they deinterlace 1080i inputs.

Most HDTVs that accept 1080p24 inputs (1080p 24 HTz,Blu-ray and HD-DVD) like Sony's VPL VW50 front projector, plays the video at 96 fps. 1080i could also be fed, deinterlaced to 1080p, and then viewed at 1080p60.

1080i is more or less half the resolution of 1080p.

Yeah your right, we'll need a 1080p display to truly show 1080i, but if u have a 720p native HDTV, feeding 1080i to eat gives a soft film like picture and not sharp enough (for my eyes at least dry.gif ) , since it then shows the image at its native resolution loosing some pixels (115200 of them if your TVs resolution is 1280 x 720 ). So,to me I personally like to feed a TV with a resolution of it's panel, as it gives a sharper look to me.

Well, I'm off now to go to mediaplex and Demo Sony's Ruby. Toodledoo!!
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post Oct 26 2006, 07:37 AM

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Excellent info, PSPboy! Thanks!
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post Oct 26 2006, 06:20 PM

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QUOTE(Lord_Ashe @ Oct 26 2006, 07:37 AM)
Excellent info, PSPboy! Thanks!
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no problem Ashe icon_rolleyes.gif

just making this thread a better place tongue.gif .

and yes, i do give a fug about reading information in the intahnets dry.gif
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post Oct 26 2006, 10:33 PM

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guys..dis panasonic plasma TH-42PA60H model good ah? is it worth da money? SRP RM 7999.
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QUOTE(psp _BOY @ Oct 26 2006, 06:20 PM)
no problem Ashe icon_rolleyes.gif

just making this thread a better place tongue.gif .

and yes, i do give a fug about reading information in the intahnets dry.gif
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Tak pegi checkout Bravia X 1080p series ke? brows.gif
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post Oct 28 2006, 11:08 PM

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hohoho,my father bought samsung plasma 42"(hdtv or watsoever lol) hehe.this christmas can get 360 liao:D maybe earlier biggrin.gif
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post Oct 29 2006, 03:48 PM

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QUOTE(redbull_y2k @ Oct 26 2006, 11:05 PM)
Tak pegi checkout Bravia X 1080p series ke? brows.gif
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dah smalam chunted brows.gif .

40" 16k, 46" 20k sleep.gif

20k - baik tunggu pearl VPL _ VW50 , haish sony, cepatler launch pearl...lama sgt nak tunggu nih sleep.gif
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post Oct 29 2006, 06:30 PM

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Hi all...

Well, I've been following this thread since the beginning, and I got lots of information about all the terms and technical aspects about HDTV and it will get handy when the time come for me to shop a new tv. Thanks guys!

Questions:

1. Is HDMI is a must for a HDTV?

2. Since PS3 is about to come out soon and HDMI is one of the terminal included, is it a must to get a HDTV with a HDMI?

3. Is component cable is equal to HDMI cable in terms of image quality? ( component < HDMI )

Hope someone will answer me...
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QUOTE(DominiqueX @ Oct 29 2006, 06:30 PM)
Hi all...

Well, I've been following this thread since the beginning, and I got lots of information about all the terms and technical aspects about HDTV and it will get handy when the time come for me to shop a new tv. Thanks guys!

Questions:

1. Is HDMI is a must for a HDTV?

2. Since PS3 is about to come out soon and HDMI is one of the terminal included, is it a must to get a HDTV with a HDMI?

3. Is component cable is equal to HDMI cable in terms of image quality? ( component < HDMI )

Hope someone will answer me...
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harlo dominique!

heres some answers:

1. HDMI!If your planning to use your HDTV fora very long time, then i suggest look for ones with HDMI connection.HDTV's with HDMI are increasing in numbers. Those like Sony's BRAVIA line are become very affordable. Since most DVD players upscale through HDMI to get the best of the best of picture quality. Then yes, it is a must smile.gif .

2.Depends. If u want PS3's Full HD resolution (1080p) then u have to spend a tad higher price than 720p HDTVs. But,if you want the best picture quality and audio, go for those with HDMI. Sony's BRAVIA X series offer 1080p at a starting price of 16k for the 40" version. But if your planning on buying an HDTV below 60" and sit about 7-10 feet away, 1080p is really actually, useless. If u plan on watching Blu-ray movies, for now component and HDMI will still be able to push 1080p, but when HDCP is applied by 2009 or 10 component will only be able to show half the picture quality. U could still use composite,S-video, and component cables as well. Only HDMI and Component are able to show Hi-Def.

3.No. HDMI offers better quality in images and clearer audio quality. Also, by 2009 or 2010 HDCP will only max component out at 540p, so HDMI is a must if u want to watch your movies or game in High Definition.

hope that helps icon_rolleyes.gif .

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post Oct 30 2006, 08:32 AM

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I got question regarding normal tv. Not HDTV.

I got progressive scan DVD player, but i dont have hdtv.
Can normal tv output progressive movie (480p) ?

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