Oh crap, at my workplace... its totally different, they just eat n snack as they please, when i ask them dont u guys exercise?, most likely would say "no time" and during their freetime, they would think of places to eat good food... sigh

i would say:
looking slim but weak as sh!t is sh!t.
looking slim but strong at the same time is ok.
looking strong but weak as crap is crap.
looking strong and you are strong is good.

No la. They've been taking Herbalife for months and they didn't see results for jack. And some of them workout and use Herbalife as supplementation. It's always the case, the effectiveness of a supplement will show overtime. I'm working like a b!tch 6am to 6pm, then sometimes 6am to 6pm the very next day and I'm still making progress and they're not. So obviously something is wrong with that product.

Does those chunks affect if they dint disolve nicely?

You'll choke on it and die!

Hey guys is milk a good source of protein too?If I don't have any whey supplements,can I just drink milk?

So.. where do you think whey came from?

some secrets underground labs which they use witch formula to make it. LOL
not sure why most people think its unnatural to use whey

p/s: they didnt know where whey comes from at the first place
Chow

yes, you can use milk, but whey is more pure or clean to me .... my choice of protein , whey, chicken breast, fish, meat, eggs, milk just during fasting

This post has been edited by kurtkob78: Nov 16 2010, 02:51 PM

calcium in milk can promote faster bodyfat loss

Uh,milk?


Nah I don't think it's unnatural to use whey,just wondering if I can use milk instead of whey..

So does this mean I can drink milk only for pre and post workout?

Dont forget milk contains lactose and extra fat. These two add to the overall calories.

Lactose in my opinion is a bad source of carb for energy use. They are simple sugar. Better choice of carb will be wholegrain.

As for fat, they carry more calories ....

About calcium. Never heard about it before. I need to read more .. or if you can provide source, it will be easier

i did the calculations before. for cost per protein, whey is whey(way) cheaper.

Oh I see,so when u say whey is more pure,it means that it doesn't have all this added sugars and stuff right?


I see,how much do u guys buy ur wheys?

whey is good for reaching that protein requirement but for attaining that caloric excess, comes in the milk

Milk gives casein too. Lets not forget that.

I think it's like asking which is better - fried rice (milk) or plain rice (whey).

If you're in a hurry and hungry, you need to fill your tummy up whilst keeping your protein intake reasonably high, go for milk.

If you're only concerned about protein and dont want the excess calories, you dont mind the taste and you had the time to tapau it beforehand, go for whey.

yes you are correct. I said it is more pure and cleaner.

Pure is for the protein, which is nearly pure protein not like milk which contains lactose and more fat. Some of the milk, they add sugar to it. Which is not a good choice carb for building muscle. We are here in bodybuilding thread so I understand we all want to build muscle not fat right.

As for cleaner, what i mean is clean protein because they contains mostly protein with a little of the other nutrients that are fat and carb. Whey varies their protein content from 80-90% depends on their brand.

When it's pure, it will automatically be clean As for how much do I buy my whey. I buy it from the retailer. For my case is fitness concept or egonutrition 5lbs for about RM220-230 Also I bot whey from 4Rings from lyn before .... 3kg (6.6lbs) RM150 ... cheap protein

This post has been edited by kurtkob78: Nov 17 2010, 01:03 PM

calcium & fat loss from Bodybuilding.com --> http://www.bodybuilding.com/fun/md76.htm
(The bottom line is that increasing calcium intake is a boon to those who want to not only lose weight, but to lose fat, improve body composition, and keep that fat and weight from coming back.)

btw i've read some articles about it too in the men's health magazines

This post has been edited by law1777: Nov 17 2010, 12:35 PM

But since whey is pretty expensive(I know bodybuilding is an expensive thing),but I'm only a student now ,can I drink milk instead for my pre and post workout?Or even better take in real foods which has protein like eggs and stuff?

whey is not expensive at all. 1 scoop of whey contains around 24g of protein only more or less rm2.50.. u go count how many ml of milk only can reach 24g and the cost =)