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janson_kaniaz
post Jun 26 2010, 01:13 PM

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r u full time vegetarian?

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post Jun 26 2010, 01:19 PM

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QUOTE(MelForC3 @ Jun 26 2010, 01:07 PM)
thats what i eat for most of the day...bout 2 eggs per day sometimes...

nuts as well...
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See bro. I hope you can see the pattern here alright. If the beginner, intermediate and advanced lifters are telling you that you should rely more on protein from natural foods, then it's something that's very noteworthy to
listen to.

Food proteins have been proven to be scientifically superior to supplement protein. If you see the videos of every IFBB Pro Bodybuilder, always natural foods for breakfast. I eat 30 - 36 eggs a day. Obviously you don't need that much but you get the idea. Supplements HELP you, they don't do the job for you.
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post Jun 26 2010, 01:30 PM

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QUOTE(janson_kaniaz @ Jun 26 2010, 01:13 PM)
r u full time vegetarian?
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Nope...just when i went for blood test, they said my uric acid level too high as i "devour" too much of meat..so, i stop eating meat. Once a while, burger, kfc, any meat will do but i dont take it frequently...


Added on June 26, 2010, 1:33 pm
QUOTE(darklight79 @ Jun 26 2010, 01:19 PM)
See bro. I hope you can see the pattern here alright. If the beginner, intermediate and advanced lifters are telling you that you should rely more on protein from natural foods, then it's something that's very noteworthy to
listen to.

Food proteins have been proven to be scientifically superior to supplement protein. If you see the videos of every IFBB Pro Bodybuilder, always natural foods for breakfast. I eat 30 - 36 eggs a day. Obviously you don't need that much but you get the idea. Supplements HELP you, they don't do the job for you.
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@@" ok, then?? so, in conclusion?? what are you trying to say?

i eat that because i trying not to eat too much amount of food and get rid of those excessive fat. As im working, breakfast and lunch time are set...

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post Jun 26 2010, 01:53 PM

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QUOTE(MelForC3 @ Jun 26 2010, 01:30 PM)
@@" ok, then?? so, in conclusion?? what are you trying to say?

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Someone please help me. Dan? John? Chica? Anyone?
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post Jun 26 2010, 02:22 PM

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QUOTE(MelForC3 @ Jun 26 2010, 01:30 PM)
@@" ok, then?? so, in conclusion?? what are you trying to say?
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In conclusion, you're pretty much going to look the same for the foreseeable future.
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post Jun 26 2010, 02:26 PM

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QUOTE(angrydog @ Jun 26 2010, 02:22 PM)
In conclusion, you're pretty much going to look the same for the foreseeable future.
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post Jun 26 2010, 02:28 PM

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QUOTE(angrydog @ Jun 26 2010, 02:22 PM)
In conclusion, you're pretty much going to look the same for the foreseeable future.
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QUOTE(ReonLim83 @ Jun 26 2010, 02:26 PM)
i cant stop laughing now.
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I seriously dunno what to say. I gave that fella clear cut explanation and advice. And he's still asking me what's the conclusion. Is there something wrong with my English? Didn't I take the liberty to elucidate myself with alacrity instead of replying in the ubiquitous manner which some trolls at bb.com do?

Gawd.

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post Jun 26 2010, 02:35 PM

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QUOTE(darklight79 @ Jun 26 2010, 02:28 PM)
I seriously dunno what to say. I gave that fella clear cut explanation and advice. And he's still asking me what's the conclusion. Is there something wrong with my English? Didn't I take the liberty to elucidate myself with alacrity instead of replying in the ubiquitous manner which some trolls at bb.com do?

Gawd.
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after a few hits from people like this you'll end up like those guys in bb.com smile.gif
lol
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post Jun 26 2010, 03:20 PM

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@@" i was just asking whether nitrotech is good o not here...so yes o no right ?


Added on June 26, 2010, 3:27 pm
QUOTE(darklight79 @ Jun 26 2010, 12:36 PM)
Changing whey protein brands won't make a huge difference. Everyone here's telling you the same thing. Nitrotech is overpriced crap. The person you consulted with doesn't know much doesn't he?

Things to prioritize in tweaking when you're not happy with progress:-
1. diet
2. Training
3. Last : supplements
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Yo dude, i mis this reply...actually this i wat i want to know...

i play hard when working out

Just looking for some supplement thats all. About price..it doesn't really a matter to me.

So thanks for everything.

Ciao ciao...

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post Jun 26 2010, 03:30 PM

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No.
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Nitrotech = Overpriced Crap
If Nitrotech = Overpriced Crap, Nitrotech != Good
Hence Nitrotech = Suxxor.
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Conclusion, go for natural food(eggs), or a cheaper brand. (Scivation, Egonutritions, ON, GNC, bla bla)

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QUOTE(zalmerox @ Jun 26 2010, 03:30 PM)
No.
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Nitrotech = Overpriced Crap
If Nitrotech = Overpriced Crap,  Nitrotech != Good
Hence Nitrotech = Suxxor.
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Conclusion, go for natural food(eggs), or a cheaper brand. (Scivation, Egonutritions, ON, GNC, bla bla)
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post Jun 26 2010, 03:33 PM

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QUOTE(MelForC3 @ Jun 26 2010, 01:30 PM)
Nope...just when i went for blood test, they said my uric acid level too high as i "devour" too much of meat..so, i stop eating meat. Once a while, burger, kfc, any meat will do but i dont take it frequently...


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@@" ok, then?? so, in conclusion?? what are you trying to say?

i eat that because i trying not to eat too much amount of food and get rid of those excessive fat. As im working, breakfast and lunch time are set...
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bro, what they are trying to tell u is,

eat more food with protein like chicken breast, eggs, beefs, beans, etc instead of taking protein supplements like whey. supplements are just extra protein just in case u are not eating enough food with protein

well about the uric acid thingy, u need to consult ur doctor regarding the matter whether u can continue to eat more food with protein since u are into bodybuilding.

u started bodybuilding how long then only go for the test? if u just started bodybuilding probably u are taking too much of meat and there is no workout last time, therefore high uric acid level. just my assumption


so if u don want too much of fats, reduce the amount of carbs because it will turn into fats if they are not fully burnt. eat smaller meal amount and higher meal count, eat more vege and food with protein and reduce amount of carbs if u are afraid about getting fat. carbs are best taken after workout. consult ur doctor once more regarding the uric acid problem.
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post Jun 26 2010, 03:37 PM

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QUOTE(zalmerox @ Jun 26 2010, 03:30 PM)
No.
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Nitrotech = Overpriced Crap
If Nitrotech = Overpriced Crap,  Nitrotech != Good
Hence Nitrotech = Suxxor.
--------------

Conclusion, go for natural food(eggs), or a cheaper brand. (Scivation, Egonutritions, ON, GNC, bla bla)
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The problem with nitrotech is only overpriced right? ntg more than that...am i right??


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QUOTE(darklight79 @ Jun 26 2010, 03:32 PM)
Thank you. I could kiss you.
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QUOTE(chicaman @ Jun 26 2010, 03:33 PM)
bro, what they are trying to tell u is,

eat more food with protein like chicken breast, eggs, beefs, beans, etc instead of taking protein supplements like whey. supplements are just extra protein just in case u are not eating enough food with protein

well about the uric acid thingy, u need to consult ur doctor regarding the matter whether u can continue to eat more food with protein since u are into bodybuilding.

u started bodybuilding how long then only go for the test? if u just started bodybuilding probably u are taking too much of meat and there is no workout last time, therefore high uric acid level. just my assumption
so if u don want too much of fats, reduce the amount of carbs because it will turn into fats if they are not fully burnt. eat smaller meal amount and higher meal count, eat more vege and food with protein and reduce amount of carbs if u are afraid about getting fat. carbs are best taken after workout. consult ur doctor once more regarding the uric acid problem.
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OK..

how's your daily meal? just curios to know...are you working?

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QUOTE(MelForC3 @ Jun 26 2010, 03:37 PM)
The problem with nitrotech is only overpriced right? ntg more than that...am i right??


Added on June 26, 2010, 3:38 pm
Kiss him ya
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I believe what many forum-ers are trying to tell you is :-

Natural source > Nitrotech/"insert funky supplement name here"


If you have the $$, by all means go ahead and burn your wallet in it. But I don't see the logic of wasting money on something which I can get 20-40% cheaper and probably same or better nutrition value in other brands.

Whatever it is ,you have to remember :-
[ Natural Food Source Trumps Supplement ]

The only time I find supplements useful is only for my pre & post workout, the rest would be your ACTUAL DIET and your actual TRAINING.


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Please don't.. I'm shy.. blush.gif

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post Jun 26 2010, 04:10 PM

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QUOTE(MelForC3 @ Jun 26 2010, 03:37 PM)
The problem with nitrotech is only overpriced right? ntg more than that...am i right??


Added on June 26, 2010, 3:38 pm
Kiss him ya


Added on June 26, 2010, 3:41 pm
OK..

how's your daily meal? just curios to know...are you working?
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i am studying, in fact i am still struggling to fix diet since its pretty hard to fit in more meal as those lecture time will be different everyday.

but my diet is something below

breakfast - 5-7 BIG scoop of instant oat (cause i bought too many gotta change after i finish them), 5 egg whitess.

snack - 5 egg whites

lunch - usually i skip this because i do my workout somewhere in lunch time. thinking of getting whey or bcaa.

post workout - 2 slice whole meal bread + peanut butter. sometimes with 2 banana if i got class. if no class i will straight away go home for some rice and 1 pcs of BIG steam chicken breast, veges.

dinner / night - some fruits like apple, banana, or 1 slice of whole meal bread with peanut butter if no class. if got class, then i will reach home late and will be taking steam chicken breast, veges.
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natural food is the best as the quality of the protein comes is much better than the syntetic,
Probs about muscletech is their price, because of their clinical studies etc.

i'm using muscletech, the latest one seems quite worth it,
big diff then using normal protein.
no kidding.
and the flavor..... oh my.... my cookies and cream... with real oreo bits..... oh my... im going to take another 2 scoop now.

Here is what something i read some month back, thought might be good to share it with u all since we talk about protein powders.

We must be ever vigilant that we are combining whole foods with our protein powders and high calorie powder mixtures...the reason for this is simple the nutrients in your shake have a higher probability of being utilized if those nutrients are introduced into your system calorically bound to whole foods - foods which your systems are and have been accustomed to utilizing since the day of your birth. I have experimented with plain powders; and with nutrient/shake mixtures to find that my digestive processes and overall gains were significantly better with the whole food option.

Offseason caloric consumption must be considered within the context of the proper utilization of offseason supplementation; and that consideration must be centered around whole food options combined with a solid nutritional additive...

This has been a cardinal rung in my training and physical careers. I hope this helps; good luck.

MACHINE


i've tried and it works.

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post Jun 26 2010, 04:29 PM

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QUOTE(ReonLim83 @ Jun 26 2010, 04:18 PM)
natural food is the best as the quality of the protein comes is much better than the syntetic,
Probs about muscletech is their price, because of their clinical studies etc.

i'm using muscletech, the latest one seems quite worth it,
big diff then using normal protein.
no kidding.
and the flavor..... oh my.... my cookies and cream... with real oreo bits..... oh my... im going to take another 2 scoop now.

Here is what something i read some month back, thought might be good to share it with u all since we talk about protein powders.

We must be ever vigilant that we are combining whole foods with our protein powders and high calorie powder mixtures...the reason for this is simple the nutrients in your shake have a higher probability of being utilized if those nutrients are introduced into your system calorically bound to whole foods - foods which your systems are and have been accustomed to utilizing since the day of your birth. I have experimented with plain powders; and with nutrient/shake mixtures to find that my digestive processes and overall gains were significantly better with the whole food option.

Offseason caloric consumption must be considered within the context of the proper utilization of offseason supplementation; and that consideration must be centered around whole food options combined with a solid nutritional additive...

This has been a cardinal rung in my training and physical careers. I hope this helps; good luck.

MACHINE
i've tried and it works.
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i was planning on the muscletech dude...i saw it written there on the bottle...nitrotech muscletech...
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post Jun 26 2010, 04:31 PM

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Why are we educating him here, he says price isn't an issue and clearly he refuses to listen to advice after asking for it. @@!
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post Jun 26 2010, 04:46 PM

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ain't gonna give anymore advice. seriously, after so many people replying the same thing and it still doesn't register, why bother? do whatever you want to do man, its your body, its your wallet. i don't know why you made a post here in the first place.
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post Jun 26 2010, 05:09 PM

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Dude, if Nitrotech is overpriced, it means OTHER brands have the same OR BETTER protein content and nutritional value AT A LOWER PRICE. Tell me logically, why would you PAY MORE, if you could get the exact same thing, FOR LESS.

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