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bloodvampire
post Nov 4 2007, 12:00 AM

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Job : Web Application Developer + SAP Consultant
Job Description : Building + Maintaining CRM, HelpDesk, HR....
Company : ISS Consulting (M) Sdn Bhd
Industry : SAP Solution & Service provider
Tenure : Permanent
Education level : BSc Business IT
Experience : Nil (Just started 7 month ago)
Salary : 2k++
terryykf
post Nov 4 2007, 08:05 AM

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do you guys know how much is the range of a clerk in banking industries?
RM995 basic??too low??
jd4eva
post Nov 5 2007, 12:11 PM

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Job Title : Field Service Eng
Job Description : failure analysis
Company : Japanese company
Industry : Medical instrument industry
Tenure : perm
Education level: Bachelor's Degree
Experience before joining : fresh grad
Salary: RM2K Basic
Allowance: 600 car allowance + petrol unlimited claim



What you guys think?

if let say after i gain 2 years experience...wat kinda company shud i apply?
medical field doesnt reli apply much bout electronics engineering, how m i suppose to do.
alex13
post Nov 5 2007, 12:59 PM

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QUOTE(jd4eva @ Nov 5 2007, 12:11 PM)
Job Title : Field Service Eng
Job Description : failure analysis
Company : Japanese company
Industry : Medical instrument industry
Tenure : perm
Education level: Bachelor's Degree
Experience before joining : fresh grad
Salary: RM2K Basic
Allowance: 600 car allowance + petrol unlimited claim
What you guys think?

if let say after i gain 2 years experience...wat kinda company shud i apply?
medical field doesnt reli apply much bout electronics engineering, how m i suppose to do.
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I like the allowance you got laugh.gif
2 years of experience...heck one year of experience will earn you a better pay, though not guarantee better allowance. As Electronics Engineering, you can join any company as long as what you learn can applied and they are more than willing to pay you good salary. My friend is joining Intel Penang as graduate trainee (same degree as you) and will earn RM2.8k, though your allowance is much better.


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post Nov 5 2007, 01:34 PM

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QUOTE(alex13 @ Nov 5 2007, 12:59 PM)
I like the allowance you got  laugh.gif
2 years of experience...heck one year of experience will earn you a better pay, though not guarantee better allowance. As Electronics Engineering, you can join any company as long as what you learn can applied and they are more than willing to pay you good salary. My friend is joining Intel Penang as graduate trainee (same degree as you) and will earn RM2.8k, though your allowance is much better.
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Intel is good. at least he can apply wat he had learnt in uni to the job.
mine was like...doing the technician job but not reli related to electronics or electrical.
even if i gained 1 year experience in med industry, other industry im still a fresh...
too rush to acept this offer.....regret~

i tried to apply those big mnc in penang n kl, the worst interview i had was in mini circuits...totally humiliation in my life...screw the inteviewer

from ur experience, how many percent of adjustment after probabtion ... my basic only 2k nia cry.gif

This post has been edited by jd4eva: Nov 5 2007, 01:44 PM
pml_318
post Nov 5 2007, 02:10 PM

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Job Title : Prod Eng
Job Description : Test
Company : MNC
Industry : Semicon
Tenure : Perm
Education level: Bachelor's Degree (EE)
Experience before joining : Fresh grad
Salary: RM2.5K
Allowance: No

If u ask me am i applying wat i pickup in uni now on my work
I would say: not at all, sounds pathetic but that's the truth
infact i dont think what im doing is technical at all,
other than pressing some buttons ( where technician know alot more than i do) does this count?? haha...
but some of my fren do "think" that's technical work, it's quite subjective right?
cus i feel that any1 who atleast understand eng lang could do the same job well ( just to write some reports other than the "technicals")
some may say that we hav to know some product knowledge...really? cus that's just naming n figures to me...
FYI, most of my frens involved in the same working environment as i do
which is manufacturing, either front/bac end..

just something to share~
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post Nov 5 2007, 04:57 PM

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QUOTE(jd4eva @ Nov 5 2007, 01:34 PM)
Intel is good. at least he can apply wat he had learnt in uni to the job.
mine was like...doing the technician job but not reli related to electronics or electrical.
even if i gained 1 year experience in med industry, other industry im still a fresh...
too rush to acept this offer.....regret~

i tried to apply those big mnc in penang n kl, the worst interview i had was in mini circuits...totally humiliation in my life...screw the inteviewer

from ur experience, how many percent of adjustment after probabtion ... my basic only 2k nia cry.gif
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That really depends. If starting pay low might get higher, but usually will not get more than 300 incremental (I said usually). If open salary is considered high by the company, then sometimes will not even increase, like my case.


Added on November 5, 2007, 4:58 pm
QUOTE(pml_318 @ Nov 5 2007, 02:10 PM)
Job Title : Prod Eng
Job Description : Test
Company : MNC
Industry : Semicon
Tenure : Perm
Education level: Bachelor's Degree (EE)
Experience before joining : Fresh grad
Salary: RM2.5K
Allowance: No

If u ask me am i applying wat i pickup in uni now on my work
I would say: not at all, sounds pathetic but that's the truth
infact i dont think what im doing is technical at all,
other than pressing some buttons ( where technician know alot more than i do) does this count?? haha...
but some of my fren do "think" that's technical work, it's quite subjective right?
cus i feel that any1 who atleast understand eng lang could do the same job well ( just to write some reports other than the "technicals")
some may say that we hav to know some product knowledge...really? cus that's just naming n figures to me...
FYI, most of my frens involved in the same working environment as i do
which is manufacturing, either front/bac end..

just something to share~
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Well, I guess you still need the EE degree to get the job right.

This post has been edited by alex13: Nov 5 2007, 04:59 PM
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post Nov 5 2007, 07:18 PM

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QUOTE(pml_318 @ Nov 5 2007, 02:10 PM)
Job Title : Prod Eng
Job Description : Test
Company : MNC
Industry : Semicon
Tenure : Perm
Education level: Bachelor's Degree (EE)
Experience before joining : Fresh grad
Salary: RM2.5K
Allowance: No

If u ask me am i applying wat i pickup in uni now on my work
I would say: not at all, sounds pathetic but that's the truth
infact i dont think what im doing is technical at all,
other than pressing some buttons ( where technician know alot more than i do) does this count?? haha...
but some of my fren do "think" that's technical work, it's quite subjective right?
cus i feel that any1 who atleast understand eng lang could do the same job well ( just to write some reports other than the "technicals")
some may say that we hav to know some product knowledge...really? cus that's just naming n figures to me...
FYI, most of my frens involved in the same working environment as i do
which is manufacturing, either front/bac end..

just something to share~
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this is normal... especially in MNC where processes are established. As an engineer, you supervise technicians and maintain your job functionality. If you are able to look for opportunity, carry out some cost savings projects or yield improvements.
Unless if you are seeking for the knowledge, then you need to look for new startup companies...else go into the R&D.
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post Nov 5 2007, 08:55 PM

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[quote=alex13,Nov 5 2007, 04:57 PM]
That really depends. If starting pay low might get higher, but usually will not get more than 300 incremental (I said usually). If open salary is considered high by the company, then sometimes will not even increase, like my case.




my boss promise me that will adjust la...but then how much still dunno...he only say..depends on performance ....

i asked him...probabtion period..he said...depends on performance also wo...y no guideline 1

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post Nov 6 2007, 08:42 AM

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[quote=jd4eva,Nov 5 2007, 08:55 PM]
[quote=alex13,Nov 5 2007, 04:57 PM]
That really depends. If starting pay low might get higher, but usually will not get more than 300 incremental (I said usually). If open salary is considered high by the company, then sometimes will not even increase, like my case.

my boss promise me that will adjust la...but then how much still dunno...he only say..depends on performance ....

i asked him...probabtion period..he said...depends on performance also wo...y no guideline 1
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There suppose to be a fixed period. However, the offer letter / contract always states that the company reserve the rights to cut short or extend the probation period. Hence, there isn't a fixed guidelines. Normally it would be 3 months probation or 6 months probation depends on a lot of factors, performance is one of the big one.


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post Nov 7 2007, 07:30 AM

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Sorry off topic,
If under probation wanted to leave,
need how long notice?
><. really not the job i wanted haiz found wrong.
please help notworthy.gif notworthy.gif

-edited-

my salary <1k only.
aka office girl doh.gif

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post Nov 7 2007, 08:15 AM

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QUOTE(jassicaskylpm @ Nov 7 2007, 07:30 AM)
Sorry off topic,
If under probation wanted to leave,
need how long notice?
><. really not the job i wanted haiz found wrong.
please help  notworthy.gif  notworthy.gif
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Different company have differnet policy. Like my company's notice period under probation is 14days. However, your company might also need you to pay penalty for that. Better ask around and HR.

Care to share your job, salary and everything to us to get back to topic? smile.gif

Thank you
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post Nov 9 2007, 12:02 AM

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i think i am severely underpaid..

Job : Software Engineer
Job Description : Design + coding + testing + implementing software solutions. Maintaining current system, email servers, application servers of the company. Using Delphi, php, vb, etc... u can say rojak job.
Company : Some local telco company
Industry : Telco
Tenure : Permanent
Education level : Computer Science Degree
Experience : 3 year +
Salary : RM 2750
Leave: 14 days

OT: what is OT?
Bonus: ang pau got la.. nvr come across any true Bonus within this 3 years

As you can see my morale is very low at this point. Bond by the company until end of this year (fortunately is only 2 months left~), and i will throw letter in January.

Anyway, I wish to change my career to consultancy, such as SAP. What should i do next? Or other than SAP, any recommends career path from gurus here? It seems like O&G, Sales, and Investment earn the best, but non of it is within my interest. SAP, business analyst or even project management would be best suits me(trying to escape from techincal..). And i am looking for an MNC company which can travel alot around the world....

Still deciding my next career path anyway...
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post Nov 9 2007, 10:45 AM

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QUOTE(kinkikids @ Nov 9 2007, 12:02 AM)
i think i am severely underpaid..

Job : Software Engineer
Job Description : Design + coding + testing + implementing software solutions. Maintaining current system, email servers, application servers of the company. Using Delphi, php, vb, etc... u can say rojak job.
Company : Some local telco company
Industry : Telco
Tenure : Permanent
Education level : Computer Science Degree
Experience : 3 year +
Salary : RM 2750
Leave: 14 days

OT: what is OT?
Bonus: ang pau got la.. nvr come across any true Bonus within this 3 years

As you can see my morale is very low at this point. Bond by the company until end of this year (fortunately is only 2 months left~), and i will throw letter in January.

Anyway, I wish to change my career to consultancy, such as SAP. What should i do next? Or other than SAP, any recommends career path from gurus here? It seems like O&G, Sales, and Investment earn the best, but non of it is within my interest. SAP, business analyst or even project management would be best suits me(trying to escape from techincal..). And i am looking for an MNC company which can travel alot around the world....

Still deciding my next career path anyway...
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From what I had heard from seniors or experienced people, those SAP, business analyst and project mangement job are for people that with experience (some of it even need up to 8 years of experience). I myself had been applying the business analyst job like forever and never been picked for interviewed. (Sad huh). I think that you are a very good programming person, or at least familiar with it. I am sure a lot of of MNC would love to hire you to a junior-executive position. Non-technical IT job are starting to increase, but still not as much as the hard-core programmmers job.

Similiar than you, those sales and investment banking are not my interest. So, I guess I would have to stay with the current job until I can find a better job (countdown starts right now icon_question.gif ) Well good luck.

PS: I am now working as an analyst, but similar to you, I worked in different stuffs and sometimes it is very very free if there are not jobs for me.

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anyone working offshore here?
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post Nov 12 2007, 08:40 PM

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Job : Finance Executive
Job Description : Prepare purchase&sales BA,TT,and LC,update cash book n system,issued cheque and blah blah...
Company : Some local listed manufacturing company
Industry : Automotive
Tenure : Probation
Education level : Bachelor Degree (HONS) in Accounting
Experience : Fresh grad wf 7 months industrial training in audit firm. This is my 1st job,currently 1 month on job.
Salary : RM 2000 basic
Leave: 12 days


Drawback: too much to list...planning to change soon..any advice?
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QUOTE(calvin00cool @ Nov 12 2007, 08:40 PM)
Job : Finance Executive
Job Description : Prepare purchase&sales BA,TT,and LC,update cash book n system,issued cheque and blah blah...
Company : Some local listed manufacturing company
Industry : Automotive
Tenure : Probation
Education level : Bachelor Degree (HONS) in Accounting
Experience : Fresh grad wf 7 months industrial training in audit firm. This is my 1st job,currently 1 month on job.
Salary : RM 2000 basic
Leave: 12 days
Drawback: too much to list...planning to change soon..any advice?
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at kl? how long is ur probation?
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post Nov 12 2007, 09:52 PM

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3months.....not in KL....in rawang.
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QUOTE(calvin00cool @ Nov 12 2007, 08:40 PM)
Job : Finance Executive
Job Description : Prepare purchase&sales BA,TT,and LC,update cash book n system,issued cheque and blah blah...
Company : Some local listed manufacturing company
Industry : Automotive
Tenure : Probation
Education level : Bachelor Degree (HONS) in Accounting
Experience : Fresh grad wf 7 months industrial training in audit firm. This is my 1st job,currently 1 month on job.
Salary : RM 2000 basic
Leave: 12 days
Drawback: too much to list...planning to change soon..any advice?
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Well, at least tell us what bother you the most? the Environment, the colleague. the job or other stuff?
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post Nov 13 2007, 07:28 PM

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QUOTE(alex13 @ Nov 13 2007, 08:30 AM)
Well, at least tell us what bother you the most? the Environment, the colleague. the job or other stuff?
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actually is the job...the company offered nothing as benefits to employee.

-medical claim rm20 (u'll get ur claim after half yr if u r lucky)
-salary will be out late evy month,i heard they gonna pay half of the salary this month
-and much more ...i dun wish to list out.



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