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 AMD® Socket AM2&AM3 Overclocking V20, The times moves on..Can AMD Survive?...

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hahantu
post Dec 5 2009, 01:28 PM

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QUOTE(antonio @ Dec 5 2009, 01:26 PM)
yap...set the ram ratio until u see either 666 or 1333 thumbup.gif
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i need to raise the voltage for ram? is it a must? icon_question.gif
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post Dec 5 2009, 01:32 PM

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QUOTE(hahantu @ Dec 5 2009, 01:28 PM)
i need to raise the voltage for ram? is it a must?  icon_question.gif
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U also can try by NOT raising the voltage....however, it would be a guessing games once u encountered instabilities....
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post Dec 5 2009, 02:01 PM

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QUOTE(antonio @ Dec 5 2009, 01:32 PM)
U also can try by NOT raising the voltage....however, it would be a guessing games once u encountered instabilities....
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if i raise the voltage, the temp rise rite? is it ok? sorry la, really noobs here.. biggrin.gif

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post Dec 5 2009, 02:48 PM

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google, read etc..
try urself would be better..
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post Dec 5 2009, 03:00 PM

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QUOTE(hahantu @ Dec 5 2009, 02:01 PM)
if i raise the voltage, the temp rise rite? is it ok? sorry la, really noobs here.. biggrin.gif
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0.1v on a fab with such tight tolerances like the CPU it would be a matter of life and death, but on a fab such as the DRAM, i don't think you need a heatsink or heatspreader...most seasoned OC'ers would agree that heat spreaders are mainly for show... whistling.gif

no need to apologies...everyone is born a noob wink.gif
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post Dec 5 2009, 06:05 PM

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QUOTE(antonio @ Dec 5 2009, 03:00 PM)
0.1v on a fab with such tight tolerances like the CPU it would be a matter of life and death, but on a fab such as the DRAM, i don't think you need a heatsink or heatspreader...most seasoned OC'ers would agree that heat spreaders are mainly for show... whistling.gif

no need to apologies...everyone is born a noob wink.gif
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antonio, what is your load temperature? wink.gif
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post Dec 5 2009, 08:24 PM

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330htt for few mins prime....it can last up tp 2hrs only...aftther that fail...
AMDAthlon.my chip not so good...
3.7 cant be achieved even in single core... just can run lower vcore compared to dualcore but 3.7 seems cannot... from 1.4 ->1.47vcore, it always stuck at 3.6ghz...
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QUOTE(kInOzAwA @ Dec 5 2009, 06:05 PM)
antonio, what is your load temperature?  wink.gif
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Depends on ambient...

right now if I prime, will be around 54-56c

if noon could reach 60c and beyond...if a/c on at night, load only 39c wink.gif
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post Dec 6 2009, 01:55 AM

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@antonio

i just change the voltage for ram to 1.5 and seems like ok..will try with prime95..and the closest value i can get is only 1280MHz..and i dont know how to change the value that CAS to 9..i cant find it in the bios .. blush.gif
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post Dec 6 2009, 02:09 AM

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QUOTE(kuntawakaw @ Dec 5 2009, 08:24 PM)
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330htt for few mins prime....it can last up tp 2hrs only...aftther that fail...
AMDAthlon.my chip not so good...
3.7 cant be achieved even in single core... just can run lower vcore compared to dualcore but 3.7 seems cannot... from 1.4 ->1.47vcore, it always stuck at 3.6ghz...
changing bek to deneb later  cry.gif  cry.gif
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Haha..quite ok la..got free X2 summore biggrin.gif
Maybe my chip quite nice sweat.gif
Unfortunately,my current Rana are not even unlock-able tongue.gif
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post Dec 6 2009, 02:15 AM

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QUOTE(AMDAthlon @ Dec 6 2009, 02:09 AM)
Haha..quite ok la..got free X2 summore biggrin.gif
Maybe my chip quite nice  sweat.gif
Unfortunately,my current Rana are not even unlock-able tongue.gif
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can ask question? how to achieve higher clock with lower voltage? all the guide that i found only teach 'increase the voltage'..
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post Dec 6 2009, 02:34 AM

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Now you have 3.6Ghz right?Try make it stable with lower vCore.
It requires alot of tweaks.In Overclocking,you have to find sweeeeeet spot(balance between clocks,voltage and imc)
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QUOTE(hahantu @ Dec 6 2009, 02:15 AM)
can ask question? how to achieve higher clock with lower voltage? all the guide that i found only teach 'increase the voltage'..
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It would be almost impossible unless the architecture allows it...you cant have 3.6ghz at 1.3v stable, its completely irrelevant...

Just like cars that produces more power gulping more fuel...it cant be a 1000hp engine only uses 100cc engine fuel... flex.gif
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hi all again, i'm jz wondering how come there's a great temp diff btw my comp and my cousin's comp. Both of us uses the same hardwares and same casing except our CPUle

Mobo: MSI 770-C45

My proc: X3 720 overclocked to 3.4ghz, 1.37V (IDLE : 29-31C, FULL : 38-40C)

His: X4 955 at stock 3.2ghz, 1.35V (IDLE: 39-41C, FULL: 50-51C)

Both of us use Coolermaster Hyper212+ as our CPU cooler

As u can c, the temp diff is nearly 10C or more btw our CPUs, I know mine is jz X3 but will the extra core make such a BIG diff? afterall, I overclocked mine to a higher clock and has a higher voltage than his...

I'm jz worried his CPU cooler is not installed properly. Is this normal guys? 10 degress for the extra core with lower clock speed and voltage

but the CPU temp difference btw our comps is very very significant

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QUOTE(superb88 @ Dec 6 2009, 04:35 AM)
hi all again, i'm jz wondering how come there's a great temp diff btw my comp and my cousin's comp. Both of us uses the same hardwares and same casing except our CPUle

Mobo: MSI 770-C45

My proc: X3 720 overclocked to 3.4ghz, 1.37V (IDLE : 29-31C, FULL : 38-40C)

His: X4 955 at stock 3.2ghz, 1.35V (IDLE: 39-41C, FULL: 50-51C)

Both of us use Coolermaster Hyper212+ as our CPU cooler

As u can c, the temp diff is nearly 10C or more btw our CPUs, I know mine is jz X3 but will the extra core make such a BIG diff? afterall, I overclocked mine to a higher clock and has a higher voltage than his...

I'm jz worried his CPU cooler is not installed properly. Is this normal guys? 10 degress for the extra core with lower clock speed and voltage

but the CPU temp difference btw our comps is very very significant
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post Dec 6 2009, 08:21 AM

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build a rig for my uncle... in dilemma... should take Phenom II X3 710 or athlon II X4 620 sweat.gif or other cpu?
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QUOTE(syazone @ Dec 6 2009, 08:21 AM)
build a rig for my uncle... in dilemma... should take Phenom II X3 710 or athlon II X4 620 sweat.gif or other cpu?
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athlon II X4 620 - actually quite balance..
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QUOTE(8tvt @ Dec 6 2009, 08:35 AM)
athlon II X4 620 - actually quite balance..
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ermmm what if X3 425 pair with 785 biostar board, have chance to unlock?
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QUOTE(syazone @ Dec 6 2009, 11:04 AM)
ermmm what if X3 425 pair with 785 biostar board, have chance to unlock?
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can if u lucky.. tongue.gif
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QUOTE(AMDAthlon @ Dec 6 2009, 02:09 AM)
Haha..quite ok la..got free X2 summore biggrin.gif
Maybe my chip quite nice  sweat.gif
Unfortunately,my current Rana are not even unlock-able tongue.gif
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pass ur chip to verdict and try l3 cache unlock with MSI yo...

er...anyone want an unlockable sempron? done playing....not amazed me blush.gif blush.gif

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