deluxe is not rog enuf mah...

joke aside, as long as it can boot up normally, i wouldn't call that as incompatibility issue. there are things more serious where i heard team dark ddr3 sticks can't boot up on certain mobo (gd70 to be precise, *no disrecpect to d board as it's one of d best air/wc board), but when tried w/ corsair dhx ram, no issue at all.

nak promote mobo ape plak bro...

CPU-NB clock speed for Phenom II is 2000mhz rite?

now I oc it to 2400mhz at CPU-NB voltage of 1.26V

my clock speed for my x3 720 is 3.4ghz at 1.391V

Ram's 4gb ddr3 1333mhz with dram voltage of 1.71V

my question is, is the overclocking of CPU-NB justifiable? the increase in 400mhz will help? cuz i dun rly know wat it does, but i read from some articles saying it will but depends on yr CPU clock speed and all..

its jz so confusing, I heard alot of ppl OC-ing CPU jer for basic overclocking, barely heard of ppl going for CPU-NB speed, so is this necessary? sry for noob question...

ALSO, my temp's idling at 31-33 and at full load 42-43, will CPU-NB speed increase, increase my temp as well?

just imagine it's like highway..
the bigger, more cars can utilize it..
it's not mean it's faster.. but can transport more..
all depends on how many vehicles (cpu speed that can drive it all)

actually 2000Mhz is enough..
it's like 4 lane highway with 3 cars to occupy 3 lane..
u have 1 extra lane why need more..

1.26v for 2400MHz of NB freq sounds fine to me, but ofcoz if it can be lowered by a notch or 2 would be better.

vcore wise, 1.39v for a 3.4GHz clock is slightly high imo, back then (when i was usin 0904bpmw x3 720), i only need 1.34~1.36v for that kinda clock if my memory serves me well. 1.424v can bring me up to 3.6GHz, but ofcoz it could be diff in hw used.

increasin nb freq won't help much in daily task but it does help in benchies/gamin (perhaps, but negligible). generally d higher d cpu clock d higher d nb freq should be. can't really explain (i'm those lazy to google) but from what i read it got something to do utilizin d 6MB L3 cache iirc. in ya case, since u oc'ed ya cpu clock, there's no harm lite oc d nb freq. not so sure bout d capability of ya imc (a.k.a cpu-nb) but those that i've tried max out @ 2500MHz for normal setup @ around 1.3v, any higher just for benchies & d volt are not so friendly.

theoritically more volt/higher clock spells higher temp, & since imc is embedded into d chip, so it's natural to have higher temp when ya imc is oc'ed. but i reckon it won't increase temp of ya chip by a large margin, most 2~3'c for my case. worth it for better results when ur doin benchies...

hope this helps...

This post has been edited by ah_khoo: Dec 3 2009, 01:09 PM

Anyway,i heard there is differences in daily task like extracting,encoding..etc on NB Frequencies.

EG : Setup A : 3.5Ghz,2.4Ghz NB Freq Finishes Extract 80 Seconds.

Setup B : 3.5Ghz,2.6Ghz NB Freq finishes extract 70~75 Seconds.

What voltage that affects the PWM Temperature?

well, it's pretty subjective i think. i myself can live with seconds or event a minute or 2 of delay...

vcore will directly affects pwm temp, d larger d vcore d higher d temp, vimc mite too but d result won't be as much as d former. depend on mobo too, some mobo especially high end like d 790fx boards usually come with 3 or 2 in one cooler (pwm,nb and/or sb connected via heatpipe) have higher pwm temp. reason is d temp heat generated are shared between d 3 or 2 sinks & usually nb is d culprit (i'm referrin to 790fxb-m2rsh). we all knew that 790fx chipset is hotter if compared to its younger brother in 790gx.

for this kinda scenario, it's either we get both actively cooled or use separate coolers for each component. unfortunately not all boards come with pwm temp sensor, most come with nb, cpu & system (usually referrin to sb or case temp) only.

This post has been edited by ah_khoo: Dec 3 2009, 11:01 PM

hello guys, hope u guys remember me... i was the one with the suspected 1 core defective on 5200+ guy...

anyway, after much troubleshoot, turns out that the integrated graphic has problem, and i think it affected the northbridge as well... went to grab a HD4670 today, now running at 220MHz, Prime95 for 10mins already, temp maintaining at 62-64C in air con room...

LOL 1st time i ever heard got IGP defective, usually discreet got defective
Anyway how's ur oc after installing the dicreet GPU? Better?

now trying out 225MHz...

usually if igp is in used, it will hinder d mileage of htt oc. what d core of ya 5200+? brisby or windsy? 62'C is kinda high for such lite oc...

Brisy... using some cepalam thermal compound...

guys a good news for budget user! im not sure wether you guys already know about this! but i just give a try!

Athlon II L3 hack offers 20% performance boost

Chinese hack over and published a straightforward guide to unlocking the L3 cache, disabled on Athlon II triple-core processor.

The feature is currently limited to MSI boards only, and only recent boards running on a fresh BIOS.

New way of cracking AthlonII X3

correct me if i'm wrong sis, but isn't it something similar to asus where we can choose which core to enable/disable? nevertheless, great effort by msi...

Is it any particular batch for the proc?

my 5200+ is giving me some worries... was trying 230MHz x13.5 with vcore 1.35V (1.392V on CPU-Z during full load), ran Prime95, and the temperature shot way over 80C... even now idle is a high 4xC... during Prim95 Core 0 stopped in 1min while Core 1 throws out "ERROR: ILLEGAL SUMOUT"...

cooler is a Scythe Shuriken RevB with some cepalam thermal compound... thinking of getting better ones later though...

but seriously speaking, i can run it at 225MHz x13.5 at default voltage comfortably, though temp would hit 6xC during Prime95... is that the max i can go???

RAM used is DDR2 800MHz and i ve dropped them to 667MHz, and HT is at x4...

Maybe im lucky.Gigabyte has also option to enable/disable 4th Core..Maybe i should try it..Right now!?

Try la bro, report back here after u do

= =..Managed to unlock the L3 Cache WITH only 3 Core running,but still unstable.My Core really defective

Aiksss i thought urs is the Athlon II X3 meh? Even the ori core also defective ka?

Yes mine are Rana.Well,i think the L3 is on the Defective Core.I've tried to disable each of the core and start Windows,still unstable.
Maybe need MSI mobo = =