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post Sep 22 2009, 03:29 PM

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QUOTE(cyberloner @ Sep 22 2009, 03:08 PM)
Proof AMD is king budget king!  nod.gif
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QUOTE(yvliew @ Sep 22 2009, 11:33 PM)
Not all motherboard support PII 965BE?? Gigabyte says my MA785GM-US2H does not support..

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how reliable u think it is?? even some good board also doesn't have it on the cpu support list..
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QUOTE(antonio @ Sep 23 2009, 02:38 AM)
What is supported 'officially' can sometimes be added or removed according to situations such as test done internally or by 3rd parties....

The gezillions of PC products out there and to test everything to ensure everything is working fine, is almost impossible to do...

Like when I boot up using 790FX-GD70 the bios didn't recognize the X2 550 BE proc...under processor tab in Bios, it describe it as Unknown AMD Processor  tongue.gif

To me it doesn't really matter if it support or not...if it can be power up, it can be use...what better if can be overclocked!!! thumbup.gif
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yup, what is important is d speed detected correctly, d rest is just for eye candy... tongue.gif

woaahhh.... gd70... drool.gif

btw, if any of u guys need to find coolin for d pwm (especially biostar 790gx boards), i would suggest ocz xtc ram cooler v2, it fitted pretty well on my 790gx a3+. just remove d clamps & zip/cable tie it to d 8 pins cable from d psu... nod.gif

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QUOTE(antonio @ Sep 23 2009, 11:40 AM)
Tons of bios options, eye candy LED's, easy out of the casing operation, one button CMOS reset, cool looking heatpipe n sinks, what more do you want...hehehehehe  laugh.gif

Maybe I would 'lelong' the GD70 for funding of my i-seben platform...the 1366 yah not the 1156 tongue.gif
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if u can afford gd70, ur not far from gettin ya hands on i-7-eleven platform. nod.gif

imo d 4 * pci-e x16 ports is abit "lebih", if i were to cfx, i would choose i7 instead of amd for max performance... laugh.gif

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QUOTE(AMDAthlon @ Sep 23 2009, 12:14 PM)
Agreed..Antonio..kenapa tak gerak ke i7? - -
But then what to CFX so much? - -
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that's why he's movin to i7 mah... he must have lotsa gfx cards lyin around, coz x58 boards usually come w/ 3 * pci-e x16 ports rite? drool.gif
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QUOTE(antonio @ Sep 23 2009, 12:26 PM)
Lol! :/lol:

I dun plan to CFX nor do I intend to play games at the highest settings...

The reason of me purchasing a platform (be it AMD or Intel or Transmeta or Motorola Freescale or whateva) is because of the sheer ultimate CPU processing power...

I only care about SPI, WPrime and all the other CPU related benches...not so much info 3DMK06 Cinebech the lot... :/w

i-seben is the yardstick now and as you see on the link regarding 6Ghz Phenom, there is no way it could beat an i-7 in SuperPI or whatever PI for that matter tongue.gif

I'm not saying that I would leave AMD camp, is just the i-7 the is 'currently' benchmark right now... :/P
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we sure have lotsa freaks in amd thread, in bro -pWs-, we got a foldin freak, while u for spi/wprime. tongue.gif

i only care bout those chips that i can afford, that's why i don't give a feck to i7. however, second hand i5 mite be a reason for me to embrace intel again... laugh.gif

QUOTE(antonio @ Sep 23 2009, 12:30 PM)
No lar...i dun own so many cards...in fact the one I own is just enough to boot into windows and watch non-HD Avi or Matroska codec encoded videos...

I dun game much while I do play a certain amount of game, the 4870 is more than enuff already for me...currently I'm on Quadro or sometimes the EN9400GT blush.gif  ....thats is why I rarely poke into the HW forum regarding GFX...

CPU powahhhh FTW!!! laugh.gif
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same here, i doubt my 3850s which bought over a year ago had been fully utilized w/ games, now they become like geforce 2 mx while geforce 4 were widely used. cry.gif

i find it more economy/affordable playin w/ chip + ram coz usually they wont cost as much as gfx. tweakin is fun but nowadays oc has been made easy by less effort needed to achieve high clock, but still, it's d only hobby i have here in sgp... sound kinda lifeless i guess... blush.gif
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QUOTE(antonio @ Sep 23 2009, 12:58 PM)
Yap...thats true...I don't play Crysis, Far Cry or Crysis2 or even UT and COH...the games that I play is, Sim City, Football Manager and rFactor...which all runs fine today even with the outdated 4870 blush.gif

I've once been a GFX freak starting with Voodoo 1,2,3 then Nvidia Riva TNT2, Geforce 1,2,3,4, Geforce 4 Ti, MX440, FX5900, 6600GT (SLI), 6800GT, 6800Ultra, 7800GTX (SLI), 8800Ultra, ATi 9200, 9600XT, 9800XTPE, X900XT, X1950X, HD3870 then 4870...

TBH I really regret buying all those... laugh.gif

Why didn't I jump from Riva TNT to 4890 straight... sweat.gif
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on contrary, i was a cpu/board swinger b4, gfx (low to mid range) was only a side hobby as i never really into gamin that much. it all started when i purchased abit nf-7, then d nf2 infinity which made me madly in luv w/ dfi boards. then came s939 era where amd was d performance king, managed to taste dfi lp nf3, nf4 sli & expert w/ 0516 venice, x2 3800+ e3 & few x2 4x00. madness @ its max when intel took back d performance crown w/ d intro of c2d. tried x2 3600+, x2 3800+ f2&f3, x2 5000+ be, 9600, 9550, 9750, 9950be, 7750be, x3 720be, x4 810 & d x2 550be now with boards such as ax78, 790gx a2+, 790gx 128m, ut 790fx, dk 790fxb, jr790gx, 790gxe 128m and d latest 790gx a3+. was abit lucky to get few pair of affordable but quite ok ram along d journey. d most unforgettable pair would be patriot tccd which managed to prime stable @ 310MHz @ 2.5-4-3-x. smile.gif

best buy of all = x4 810 (bought @ $140, sold @ $150) biggrin.gif

worst buy of all = 0516 venice (bought @ rm7xx iirc, sold @ $40) doh.gif

ehh, abit off topic ledi, better stop now... tongue.gif

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QUOTE(mozact89 @ Sep 23 2009, 05:26 PM)
can anyone help me?? im just bought corsair xms2 2x2gb ddr1066mhz... but cant boot up to window laa.. pening kepala oledy.. before this using normal ram 2x2gb ddr800mhz.

here some ss..
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lemme guess, runnin on ddr1066 divider on auto timing? hmm.gif
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QUOTE(mozact89 @ Sep 23 2009, 05:32 PM)
when i set to auto, it show ddr800 ony.. so i change to manual.. 1066.. bro verdict said i hv to pump ram voltage to 2.1v.. is it true?
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it's hard to boot w/ ddr1066 w/ some ram unless u manually adjust d main timing. details bout ya ram? i think sis xixo can help on this. my not really gud in ram tweakin... sweat.gif

eg: my kvr can boot @ 1600 @ 9-8-8-x w/ ddr1333 divider but on ddr1600 divider, i need to loosen it to 9-11-11-x... sad.gif

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QUOTE(mozact89 @ Sep 23 2009, 05:51 PM)
sume sudah wat oledy.. 3 times i reset cmos oledy.. then i try one by one ram slot.. oso cant boot up.. at the board show FF..
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even w/ ddr800 divider? hmm.gif

u can try:

1. clear cmos
2. boot w/ 1 stick (test all 4 slots)
3. set ram divider to ddr800
4. if can boot shutdown & installa another stick @ dc position.
5. set htt @ 267 w/ lax timin like 5-5-5-x if u die die must get d ram to run at 1066

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QUOTE(xixo_12 @ Sep 23 2009, 07:39 PM)
i reply here k

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CL - tRCD - tRP - tRAS - tRC - CR don't follow above value sweat.gif the one that i recommended before

edit : don't make big bro ah_khoo shame loo.. urs is D.F.I ..sure got that timing tongue.gif
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cilaka lu sis, metang2 bulang pose dah abih buleh shoot auntie sesuka hati yer... tongue.gif

QUOTE(mozact89 @ Sep 23 2009, 07:54 PM)
aah kan.. hahaha.. seyes aku dah lupe.. sorry2.. lame x mengOC pc ni.. lupe plak CPU vid utk vcore.. sorry2...


Added on September 23, 2009, 7:55 pmbro, still cant boot up laa... die sangkut kat Backup CMOS .... OK!

kt board tulis FF.. adei..
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hmmm... iirc i faced that kinda problem b4, lemme think hard whether i can recall what was d culprit... hmm.gif

mebe can try by lowerin divider to dd667 or 533? smile.gif
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last resort is plug out d hdd & pop it into another rig & back up d stuffs on desktop. smile.gif

it does sound like os corruption... sweat.gif
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QUOTE(antonio @ Sep 24 2009, 02:20 PM)
Some update for the Micron D9KPV...

Memory Voltage: 1.67v
Timing 7-7-7-24
Speed 1600Mhz

This is the AOD screen...Below are the test done using Everest...

Look at the figures and not the model....  tongue.gif
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how can we not look at d model 1st... if compare d 2, d nos are nothing... drool.gif

prime stable? voltage? this is killin me as i'm resistin performance ram atm... icon_question.gif

QUOTE(-pWs- @ Sep 24 2009, 02:34 PM)
What is the model name? laugh.gif

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which model ur referrin to bro? model of ram or model of car or d babe? tongue.gif



to change or not to change? currently thinkin of joinin bro cloudwan as gaygaybite fans... rclxub.gif

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QUOTE(cloudwan @ Sep 26 2009, 05:01 AM)
Someone mention my name?  :/hehe:
Hehehe bro, lai lai change lor, come to the gigitbite club :/P
Kuikuikui...

BTW bro, something just arrived to my doorstep: :/hehe:  :/hehe:
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wish to join but cfo advise d other way round coz d board costs a staggerin $283, guess what board is that... tongue.gif

all d best, hope d cooler will fit well onto ya board bro... nod.gif

btw, after 2 weeks of huff & puff...

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experience told me if one uses ddr1066 divider, he gotta sacrifice on timing. better use ddr800 divider + htt oc to clock it up to 1066, can have tighter timin & possibly higher mileage. smile.gif

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this is d furthest i can go so far, defnitely not totally stable, just a quick test only... i believe d wall is gettin near as AMD imc is inferior to its counterpart. sad.gif

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QUOTE(-pWs- @ Sep 27 2009, 02:47 AM)
Wow. What ram bro? Kingmax Value?

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premium ram bro, price wont be so pocket friendly but still affordable if "tersepak duit tepi jalan". tongue.gif

sellin off ya stuffs eh? foldin no more? time to get a budget AMD rig bro... u want d ahem2 chip? no problem shippin it back to u if u need one... wink.gif
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QUOTE(antonio @ Sep 27 2009, 03:26 AM)
GEIL!!!!!!!!!!!!! spotted!!! D9KPV brows.gif
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spot on sir, but i didn't know it's of d9kpv... tongue.gif

d new bios for 785 evo has cpu-nb vid adjust from what i heard, i guess u sold off d board ledi, don't u? laugh.gif
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QUOTE(antonio @ Sep 27 2009, 04:08 AM)
:/clap:  :/clap:

give it a pry and you can see whats under the bonnet heatspreader... :/flex:

btw what volts...

If <1.8v then if shouldn't be D9, more like Elpida's BBSE and not BABG...but better if get Elpida Hyper-E huhuhuhuhu :/hyper:

Yap...not sold, but the correct term is 'returned'...  :/blush:

Btw, the GD70 is so vast up till today still now kawtim the bios exploration.... :/sweat:  :/o
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won't be extreme to d extent of pryin off d heat spreader sir, not really bothered what chipset is used, as long as d ram can do d job will do. tongue.gif

voltage used was @ 1.6v, so i guess they use elpida chipset on this serie. nod.gif

gd70, i rike.. for sure it got tonnes of tweakin options inside d bios... drool.gif

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QUOTE(kuntawakaw @ Sep 27 2009, 09:13 AM)
i believe prime 20mins prime is better then full-ram used by IBT..

i wonder i still can spam here if i not OC... not using PC anymore after this sweat.gif
really depend on d p95 setting, if u leave it on default blend test, d time taken for one particular test is 15 mins. usually blend test start @ 1024k (ram portion i supposed) and last for 15 mins only, then d next test is @ 8k which is @ cpu/l2 cache. so 20 mins of that kinda setting really not sufficient enuf to justify d stability of ram imo. nod.gif

QUOTE(stardust_kkk @ Sep 27 2009, 12:23 PM)
looking for 550BE can unlock core one...wan test if it can unlock on my XFX750a or not..tongue.gif ..who wan borrow me try try??
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iirc, only 980a chipset can do core unlockin... sweat.gif

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