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limeuu
post Nov 16 2010, 01:01 PM

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current standard therapies are all available in the net.....
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QUOTE(limeuu @ Nov 16 2010, 01:01 PM)
current standard therapies are all available in the net.....
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post Nov 16 2010, 10:39 PM

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http://www.acadmed.org.my/index.cfm?&menuid=28
http://www.acadmed.org.my/index.cfm?&menuid=67
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QUOTE(wgy589 @ Nov 16 2010, 10:39 PM)
arigato gozaimasu
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QUOTE(raul88 @ Nov 16 2010, 09:58 PM)
i want msia guidelines one
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QUOTE(wgy589 @ Nov 16 2010, 10:39 PM)
like i said, it's all on the net......local or 'international'.....actually, no matter where you are, the standard regimes don't differ much.....
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If an oversupply of docs are to occur, where do you think the axe will swing. It has to be the bottom of the quality barrel and who would these ppl be?
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WHAT OVER SUPPLY?!
More foreign docs to fill big hole in gov't hospitals. http://www.malaysiakini.com/news/148733
In efforts to overcome the shortage of medical officers in the country, the government is hiring more doctors from abroad, including from Egypt and Pakistan, to work in government hospitals, said Health Minister Liow Tiong Lai.


Where does that leaves the current and future batch of Bolehland's graduated docs? hmm.gif

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QUOTE(DarkNite @ Nov 21 2010, 08:07 AM)
WHAT OVER SUPPLY?!
More foreign docs to fill big hole in gov't hospitals. http://www.malaysiakini.com/news/148733
In efforts to overcome the shortage of medical officers in the country, the government is hiring more doctors from abroad, including from Egypt and Pakistan, to work in government hospitals, said Health Minister Liow Tiong Lai.


Where does that leaves the current and future batch of Bolehland's graduated docs? hmm.gif
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sabah n sarawak n those kampung area still in need of doctors la. where got oversupply? rolleyes.gif
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Too many new doctors and too few hospitals to train them
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PETALING JAYA: The number of medical housemen undergoing clinical training in most government hospitals has increased and this has given rise to concern that they may not get sufficient experience.

With new medical schools opening up locally and lower fees being offered at new institutions abroad, around 4,000 Malaysian medical students are expected to graduate annually from 350 universities all over the world in the coming years.

Senior Hospital Kuala Lumpur (HKL) consultant physician Datuk Dr S. Jeyaindran said each specialist was supervising four times as many housemen compared to a decade ago.

“Five years ago, one houseman looked after 10 patients in hospital wards at any one time but now it is one to four patients,” said Dr Jeyaindran, who is HKL department of medicine head and national head for medicine at the Health Ministry.

“The concern is that these interns are seeing fewer patients and hence, have fewer opportunities to carry out adequate procedures. In some hospitals, there are more housemen than patients.”

Dr Jeyaindran said they were not only concerned about the increase in numbers but also their attitude.

“Some lack responsibility towards their patients,” he said, adding that there were also those who did not know how to give an accurate diagnosis and relied too much on investigative tools instead of clinical skills and getting the proper patient history.

Malaysian Medical Council ethics committee chairman Datuk Dr Abdul Hamid Abdul Kadir said several specialists had expressed concern about the large numbers and training hospitals were finding it difficult to cope.

“In the past, it was five housemen in each department but now it could be 20 to 30 for each department,” he said, adding that some specialists were overburdened by the workload.

Health Minister Datuk Seri Liow Tiong Lai said the ministry was aware of the issue and would be increasing the number of training hospitals.

He said the ideal ratio should be one specialist supervising five housemen with one houseman taking care of 14 hospital beds depending on discipline.

There were 38 hospitals providing training to more than 3,058 housemen last year.

However, the number increased to the current 6,253 housemen since the ministry increased the duration of housemanship from one year to two.

“This led to most hospitals, including those in Sabah and Sarawak, having an excess of housemen,” he said.

Hospitals that were chosen must be able to cater to six areas in which housemen need training – medical, surgical, paediatrics, obstetrics and gynaecology, orthopaedic and accident, and emergency, he said.

Liow also said that they would be getting 58 contract specialists from Egypt, India and Pakistan next month to help supervise housemen and reduce the burden of the specialists now.

He also said that the ministry had taken steps to overcome the lack of experience among housemen by making training compulsory for two years instead of one.


sos @ the star.

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post Nov 27 2010, 06:30 PM

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isn't it interesting that the last 2 entries appears to give the completely opposite picture of the situation..........
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post Nov 27 2010, 08:26 PM

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Limeuu, come see this blog. It is an example or rather an evidence that it is bad for patients to ignore doctors' advice.

Basically here is the story:


The female patient is a teacher by occupation, had been diagnosed with kidney cancer on her left kidney about 1 year ago. She was scheduled to be operated to remove the malignancy in a govt. hospital, but due to the influence and 'advice' by friends and family members - she opted to have the "scarless and painless surgery" done by JOHARI MANSOR in PUSAT RAWATAN KERATON instead.

I came across her uploaded "surgery" video in Youtube around september 2009 and commented about the fraud/deceit of such "surgery" to her. She condemned me instead for doing so. (see below for her comments - click spoilers)

» Click to show Spoiler - click again to hide... «

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Original video:




She was apparently healthy for awhile (psychological factor? placebo effect? who knows) but less than 1 year after the apparently "miraculous surgery" she was again re-admitted into the hospital because of her "apparently removed tumour" was still there and now has become even worse than before. She had a REAL operation this time - but even then, according the her doctors - her future is uncertain.

I have arranged the blog entries in chronological order for all of you medical students and doctors to read and learn something out of this:

http://sweetalia-blog.blogspot.com/2009/08...pital-lagi.html (Tuesday, August 11, 2009)

http://sweetalia-blog.blogspot.com/2009/08...rt-2episod.html (Monday, August 17, 2009)

http://sweetalia-blog.blogspot.com/2009/08...t-3episode.html (Friday, August 21, 2009)

and the "miracle surgery":

http://sweetalia-blog.blogspot.com/2009/09...kena-bedah.html (Sunday, September 13, 2009)

and NOW:

http://sweetalia-blog.blogspot.com/2010/08...at-sepital.html (Tuesday, August 10, 2010)



For all future doctors here - learn from this~
For more information, click my signature below (Pusat rawatan Keraton scam).

Do comment and give opinion if you like.

This post has been edited by CyberSetan: Nov 27 2010, 10:15 PM
limeuu
post Nov 27 2010, 09:29 PM

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i see this sort of thing all the time.......like the old saying, there is a fool born every minute........most of them loose their money through scams.....

some loose their lives........
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QUOTE(zstan @ Nov 27 2010, 04:04 PM)
Too many new doctors and too few hospitals to train them
sos @ the star.
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The issue is the lack of "proper" training hospitals where the housemen can be sent to. The way I see it, the upgrading of more hospitals to training hospitals will help with the current congestion of housemen and also will see better and wider choice of medical treatment at the so called lower tier hospitals. A classic case of killing two birds with one stone!

Why are we always running short of specialists and always on the lookout for recruitment of foreign specialists in gomen hospitals? Cant we remove the obstacles that always hinder potential doctors serving in gomen hospitals from taking up specialisation of their choice? Despite many specialists leaving gomen service, I believe there are still a minority who would want to serve in the gomen despite all the adverse comments.
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anyone here from MAHSA physio ? need help
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QUOTE(firdzee @ Nov 28 2010, 09:31 AM)
anyone here from MAHSA physio ? need help
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The ones hanging around in this thread are mostly medical students/medical doctors...
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post Nov 28 2010, 11:14 AM

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QUOTE(CyberSetan @ Nov 28 2010, 09:38 AM)
The ones hanging around in this thread are mostly medical students/medical doctors...
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are you one of them ?
CyberSetan
post Nov 28 2010, 11:24 AM

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QUOTE(firdzee @ Nov 28 2010, 11:14 AM)
are you one of them ?
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duhh....

by the way, use the search function if you want to find threads related to physiotherapy.
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proud of you cyber for fight a dumb man as above . haha . you know what i mean right ?
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post Dec 2 2010, 04:32 PM

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Here is something~
I will upload some of my past cases - I'm sharing it here, ponder all you like (image is very large):


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Note: image taken with permission of the patient under supervision of our prof. Patient identity anonymous.

This post has been edited by CyberSetan: Dec 2 2010, 04:32 PM
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QUOTE(CyberSetan @ Nov 27 2010, 08:26 PM)
Limeuu, come see this blog. It is an example or rather an evidence that it is bad for patients to ignore doctors' advice.

Basically here is the story:


The female patient is a teacher by occupation, had been diagnosed with kidney cancer on her left kidney about 1 year ago. She was scheduled to be operated to remove the malignancy in a govt. hospital, but due to the influence and 'advice' by friends and family members - she opted to have the "scarless and painless surgery" done by JOHARI MANSOR in PUSAT RAWATAN KERATON instead.

I came across her uploaded "surgery" video in Youtube around september 2009 and commented about the fraud/deceit of such "surgery" to her. She condemned me instead for doing so. (see below for her comments - click spoilers)

» Click to show Spoiler - click again to hide... «

» Click to show Spoiler - click again to hide... «


» Click to show Spoiler - click again to hide... «


Original video:


She was apparently healthy for awhile (psychological factor? placebo effect? who knows) but less than 1 year after the apparently "miraculous surgery" she was again re-admitted into the hospital because of her "apparently removed tumour" was still there and now has become even worse than before. She had a REAL operation this time - but even then, according the her doctors - her future is uncertain.

I have arranged the blog entries in chronological order for all of you medical students and doctors to read and learn something out of this:

http://sweetalia-blog.blogspot.com/2009/08...pital-lagi.html  (Tuesday, August 11, 2009)

http://sweetalia-blog.blogspot.com/2009/08...rt-2episod.html (Monday, August 17, 2009)

http://sweetalia-blog.blogspot.com/2009/08...t-3episode.html (Friday, August 21, 2009)

and the "miracle surgery":

http://sweetalia-blog.blogspot.com/2009/09...kena-bedah.html (Sunday, September 13, 2009)

and NOW:

http://sweetalia-blog.blogspot.com/2010/08...at-sepital.html (Tuesday, August 10, 2010)
For all future doctors here - learn from this~
For more information, click my signature below (Pusat rawatan Keraton scam).

Do comment and give opinion if you like.
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Wasting time only seeing this kind of patient. Too bad they chose to ignore doctor's advice and go for spiritual healing


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