interesting but =/ me no likey! lol

It may not be 'they chose to ignore doctor's advice'. I have encounter Docs that can't delivery good advice. They just dun have good people skill and unable to sell the benefits of their suggestion. Some are so high and mighty.

CyberSetan - do they teach good bedside manners in medical schools?

What are you implying DarkNite?

communication skills IS a subject in some medical schools.....mostly in the western world........it's partly driven by patient needs, but mostly by medicolegal implications, especially in the consent taking process......

having said that, the reason why people try alternative cures is NOT because the doctor failed to convey the information of diagnosis, but that many people do NOT really trust modern medicine, they know fully well what's wrong with them, like in this case above....

from a medico-legal point of view, in some countries, patient who refused recommended treatment will also need to sign a disclaimer.........

Whist I'm 100% support of your expose on quacks, I'm disappointed by some docs bedside manners.

limeuu - Trust and information goes hand in hand doesn't it? A well informed patient will know wat/who to trust, is it not?

no........the persons background health belief system will usually decide what they do........you must understand modern medicine (what many mistakenly refer to as 'western' medicine) is just one of several broad health belief systems......and considered no superior to the other systems.....

Reminded me of my OB/GYN. When I was complaining about the horrible stuff I had to go through during confinement, she said 'modern medicine cant explain everything, sometimes there are things that the elders know better'. That actually surprised me since she's quite a modern woman.

The thing is, if I ask my mom about those pantangs, she'll tell me - thats what people in the old days used to do .. just follow. I usually retort with 'people used to take dump in a pail, cook things with firewood and live in a wooden house with mengkuang rooftop too'. As I mentioned in another thread, I dont mind following rituals - as long as they're reasonable.

Or maybe my OB/GYN was just trying to be nice

OMG THIS THREAD ACTUALLY EXIST. D:

hello people. I assume people here are very very smart ><
are everyone here in med? ><

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Added on December 6, 2010, 7:48 pm so true

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Assume is not a good thing to do. You may make an ASS out of U & ME

HEY!! WHO TAUGHT U THIS QUOTE??! (Assume is not a good thing to do. You may make an ass out of u and me)

umm anyone from imu ?

she is just being nice.....most modern medicine doctors tries NOT to antagonise these alternative health system beliefs, for fear they will loose the patient........

however, there are some doctors, in spite of being trained in modern evidence based medicine, still hold on to their original belief system they grew up in.....

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Added on December 6, 2010, 8:17 pmgo to the imu thread.........

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thank kiuu

anny opinions on ACMS? they;re offering MD at UKM

medically irrelevant =/

I still will hold on to some of my beliefs =) for example I do believe in chinese trad med, cos somehow they do work (and sometimes they dont), and things like the body is 'hot' and 'cold', if you know what I'm getting on. Guess some wisdom passed down from generations just can't be explained by science, yet they are true =)

well in my opinion..
some of the thing practiced by the elderly cant be explained just yet and some researchers managed to find the explanation. that is the basis of the Obs/Gyn dr belief.

here are some of the example i can come out at this hour
old people used to say that if u have a toothache just put bunga cengkih to the gigi (sry cant find the english word for it)
and my dentist friend told me that the is a compound in bunga cengkih is actually used in the basis of painkiller in dental practice

sry cant find better example if ur seeking for one.
so in the end. u just believe and trust whichever way u want but make sure it wont do u any good and doesnt sound too obnoxious

just had a meeting with an official.

apparently he's going to india to give a talk with those medical schools taking in malaysian students/foreign students.

apparently their prices are starting to go out of hand, with a medical degree costing 200k USD in india.

so now the authorities there are going to standardise the price to a more acceptable level for next year.

so that guy is going to convince them to charge at our local rate..rm250k?

250k not including cost of living @.@
i guess for the next 5 year competition going to be mad
250k would mean nothing for some people inorder to gain what they wanted

well if compared to US$200k, RM250k is a lot cheaper =D

RM250k will get you into a lower ranking local med course only no?