For non-US curriculum, A Levels would be it. Since it's pre-university, and the very first degree you pursue is medicine, of course its pre-med. That's the prep for your medical course.
However, this applies only in my context, my words. Its using English, not the name of the course. The 'pre-' means before, so when it's attached with med, it meant before medical studies.
Swt.. You think one thing cannot fall into two categories? It's like saying, I thought a sport car is in automotive, not vehicles. It's actually both.

I think that's a slightly wrong term to use....unless when you do your A-levels which grants you direct entry into a medical course I certainly would not call it pre-med on this basis...quite misleading some how..

"Hey what are you studying?"

"Oh..i am doing my pre-med.."

"Oh...where are you taking the course"

"XXX uni."

"Oh wow they offer a pre med course? How much does it cost? What are the course structure like."

"It's A-levels basically."

Well, if we are talking on the context of proper English, then yes, your sentence structure and the 'pre-med' term is perfectly correct. However in day to day conversations, you simply can't use the term pre-med like this.

don't be......he is wrong.....

pre-med means a specific foundation programme (studying subjects like chemistry and biology, of course!) specifically meant to enable a person to enter the 1st year of a medical programme.....and generally infer a guaranteed entry once meeting prescribed minimum results.....

don't confuse this with generic foundations like mufy.....

proper pre-u are generic programmes like a-levels, stpm, oz year 12, nz ncea level 3 etc.....while you still study the same subjects as pre-med, your qualification will enable you to study a wide variety of courses, and does NOT guarantee entry into medicine.....

under current practices in uk/oz, the pre-u itself is NOT adequate by itself to enable entry, as further filters are imposed, ie, the entrance exams (ukcat/bmed/isat/umat/pqa etc) and the interview....

don't bring the american system into this....they are completely different....

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Added on August 30, 2011, 7:04 pmyou can't go invent your own words and you own definition like that......!

particularly, if you want to study medicine....everything, every word, every term, all have very clear specific, definition......so everybody is talking the same language, and on the same wave length.........

This post has been edited by limeuu: Aug 30 2011, 07:04 PM

Hello buddy, you're threading on a thin line here.A bit more than that I would labelled you as arrogant.
Have a care in the word you dispense to the public.
You are about to become the judge of medicine.My advice for you is to chill

Swt.. No point going to fight anymore on this.
Btw, there's never a 'pre-med' course, with an exception of some in the US. Pre-med is just a set of requisites to be accomplished by a student for entry.
I guess only particular people would understand this.
"I'm doing A-Level as pre-med."
"Oh.. Okay. Biology and Chemistry, right?"

But oh well, some would readily debate for the sake of winning an arguement that the true purpose of the debate is lost in between. From an explanation of pre-clinical studies, which I had agreed to be wrong, to intercalation, to the word of pre-med, all of which are unable to end, as long as there's a person who don't understand, who held influence.
You're a great guy, limeuu, from the very first post from you that I've read. Both of us is actually right, just different words, and sources.

point out where i am wrong.....

otherwise, why am i arrogant, if what i say is correct?.....

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Added on August 30, 2011, 9:55 pmthere are several 'pre-med' couses in msia, and overseas targeted at msians..... mostly feeding into eastern european or indonesian med schools......

some examples:

http://www.cyberlynx.edu.my/college_under_premed.html

http://russian-resources.com/courses/pre-u...sity-courseseng

http://www.klcplacement.com.my/index.php?o...=110&Itemid=178

it pays to do some research before making sweeping statements......especially on things you are unsure about......

This post has been edited by limeuu: Aug 30 2011, 09:55 PM

dude, you're putting up a standard on the public forum.
you shouldn't strain your back on this one, I am sure there are plenty of good way of 'reprimanding' people on forum
You must understand not everyone out there have the access or privileges such as yourself (eg. command in english)
I think you should be tactful

okay point taken.....you are not talking about facts, but my style of communication.....

i get tough when people who have wrong information dispense them as facts in this forum...it is dangerous, misleading......if they are not sure, say so accordingly, and i usually let that pass....someone with the correct answers will usually set the record right.....

see the context in my tone of language, before passing judgement.....

maybe you have type A personality problem

A relative who is an academician once commented that teachers now have to tip toe around students, for fear of incurring the wrath of their parents, that students these days can do no wrong. They are spoon fed from primary school, and apparently to promote self-esteem, they must not be reprimanded nor criticised either. So criticism is considered an affront to their intelligence.

this has nothing to do with personality.....

i gather you will be quite happy to let mis-information florish here then......as it does in k.......

Come on, man. You'll fighting the more obvious with the lessers.
One, Jawa and the rest are lesser known.
One person comes up asking, "cars got wings?". Answer : "Hell no", then up comes the "there are some" with hell load of lesser known cars with wings.
The academies you listed want to be different. They want to outshine others by introducing these courses, but of course, they're not yet a norm. Like cars with wings, or women with moustaches.

@ relentless....

i usually will not respond to a post like this......

but i will use this as an example of nonsense posted sometimes.....

all i can say is huh? say what?

if you can decipher the above, please enlighten me......

Don't get your pants in a bunch!

go study for your SPM please. trials coming soon.

Relentless, u working in sg alrdy? so far, do the aforementioned UM/UKM students struggle compared to their NUS/Oz/UK counterparts. lol let's change the direction of this thread , kinda bored with the trivial squabbles already

Agree, change the topic already... Why can't the 'senior forumer' here be polite and rather than assuming that this forum is an English-language class, treat like like any other conversation between people. I bet you don't correct your parent's grammar right?

And yes, I know I have grammatical mistake in almost every post, do me a favor and spare me the lecture on the standard of English in doctors

P.S: Yep, do tell us how they cope. Did they mingle well and able to do their job just as good or even better than the others? From my visit to some local doctor, they can be very good in communication and diagnosis with proper explanation despite graduate locally.

I agree with you. However, this is lowyat and only such argument will generate so many posts.

This post has been edited by wgy589: Aug 30 2011, 11:46 PM

well i think limeuu is of the opinion that as future doctors our englidh must be at least comprehensible. lets look at his advice as constructive criticism, and try to improve our english from now on.

NOT kopitiam you mean?