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post Oct 8 2009, 07:58 PM

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hais... the reply above is mine actually, my fren forget to log out his LYN acc and i xcidently use it.. sweat.gif doh.gif doh.gif
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QUOTE(elite87 @ Oct 8 2009, 02:36 PM)
gt a quest abt HPW??

y we need to put in warm water??? is it to cook the instant hpw??? o jz wana serve warm???
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Is to make the honey disolve faster, save your time. Your task is harder if u use cold water.

You don hav to 'cook' hpw.

QUOTE(haf 932 @ Oct 8 2009, 07:56 PM)
i think warm water just to dislove the honey and the powder hpw.. hope its true unsure.gif .. try making milo with cold water.. the milo will float on top right? whistling.gif
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Clever~

We can still use cold water to mix, the powder wont float on top, but takes longer time for the honey to disolve thoroughly.
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Hi all again! This morning I let Mochi out of his cage to run around in my room as per usual but today, after running around for awhile he suddenly became very rigid and frantic. He was jumping all over off me when he is still outside his cage but when I return him to his cage he wants to jump on
me and then off me again to the floor. I had to use his cloth to cover him and put him back in the cage but ever since he got back into his cage he still jumps around like he's got a little crazy and he gets frightened by every little sound. The poor boy! That was in the morning before he went to sleep. I went out today and brought him along. During that time he was very normal, like his usual ways when I used to take him around and pat him, etc. Now, he is up again and he is still frantic. What could be wrong? I'm so worried. Has this happened to anyone before? Please help! Thanks.....

P/s: and the thing is, he's not crabbing or barking or anything.. so I can't tell if he is really scared or just a little nuts.. :-(

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post Oct 10 2009, 09:16 AM

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Probably he stumble upon a lizard or something that he has never seen before n that scared him. just like how a small kid would run back to their parents if they got scared,....
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Got to trim Crislyn's nails later smile.gif I hope she stays still ): haha !
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post Oct 10 2009, 11:47 AM

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Guys, if I feed my gliders a wholesome diet (eg. HPW) will I need to give them Glider Booster, Glider Cal or Acacia Gum? I know that Gliderade is recommended twice a week for those on HPW, right?

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guys i wanna ask something! will a 2-4 months old suggie have a diamond shaped forehead to show its sex as a boy ? well im not sure but i wanna ask ! or the diamond will appear when it reached maturity

or if there's possible a male suggie wont have a diamond?
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QUOTE(Lawrence93 @ Oct 10 2009, 11:52 AM)
guys i wanna ask something! will a 2-4 months old suggie have a diamond shaped forehead to show its sex as a boy ? well im not sure but i wanna ask ! or the diamond will appear when it reached maturity

or if there's possible a male suggie wont have a diamond?
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Is the diamond hairless? If it is, then your glider is more than likely a boy.
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QUOTE(babyvey @ Oct 10 2009, 11:47 AM)
Hey guys, do you recommend Premium Sugar Glider Diet over HPW Diet?
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I would prefer stick on HPW, then give Premium Sugar Glider Diet as dry staple.

I use Bugsy Sugar Glider Diet when i am away or during daytime.

QUOTE(Lawrence93 @ Oct 10 2009, 11:52 AM)
guys i wanna ask something! will a 2-4 months old suggie have a diamond shaped forehead to show its sex as a boy ? well im not sure but i wanna ask ! or the diamond will appear when it reached maturity

or if there's possible a male suggie wont have a diamond?
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Yes, it's possible that a male doesnt develop the diamond shape on forehead. Look at kelvin's Cairo, the diamond shape is really not visible.

It will come out when they reach maturity age.
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post Oct 10 2009, 12:17 PM

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Hey guys.. do you think its okay to feed HPW in a bottle? like those hamster bottles used for their water..so that the ants / dust could not get to it.. or would the fibre and all clot there?
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owh tat means my suggie is a male! cause i saw ur picture viewing tat suggie has a thing near its tail , and female has a pouch! instead my suggie has a thing which might be its testic ~.~
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QUOTE(eric138 @ Oct 10 2009, 12:14 PM)
I would prefer stick on HPW, then give Premium Sugar Glider Diet as dry staple.

I use Bugsy Sugar Glider Diet when i am away or during daytime.
Yes, it's possible that a male doesnt develop the diamond shape on forehead. Look at kelvin's Cairo, the diamond shape is really not visible.

It will come out when they reach maturity age.
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Hey, that's what I figured.. That's why I edited my question. I guess you didn't see it, but do you mind answering that too? ><
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post Oct 10 2009, 01:30 PM

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Hi everyone & all the sifus out there,

I have been considering keeping suggies but i don't want to rush into it untill i gather enough of information from web & forums.

I really enjoy reading this forum as it is very informative and interesting, indeed it is really an eye opener to the suggies world.

Though i have been considering and tempted in keeping a pair of suggie, but i still have hesitations as i want to make sure i can handle and provide the right environment with lots of tender loving care. I am an animal lover but i know it takes more than that to be a good suggies owner.

I need some advice from all the sifus before i come out with a firm decision. My current situation is like this, I have 5 kids (adopted stray cats) living with me and my fiance in an apartment. I am not sure how would this affect suggies, can someone please advice? Setting up a nice cage and placing them in a safe place with good food is not an issue, but will my cats scare the hell out of suggies?

I also work from 9 - 5, but every Thursday i will be home late, around 10.30pm. I also travel back to home town in Penang once a month by bus. I also understand from this forum that once i am bonded with my suggie, i can also bring suggie to my office. Bringing suggie to the office is not an issue bcoz my boss always emphasize in making our office as our home. I also have 2 betta (fighting fish) in my office. I am in the sales & marketing line, occasionally i will have to visit my clients, which means i have to be out of the office.

Ok i think i should summarize my points and questions as below:
1) Izzit possible to have suggie while i have cats in my house.
2) Once i'm bonded with my suggie, can i bring suggie out when i need to visit client? Will they make noise, etc?
3) I travel back to hometown by bus at least once a month, morning bus back to Penang and 4pm bus back to KL on Sundays (reach KL around 8 - 9 pm). I understand suggie wakes up between evening to midnight, is there any solution for me if i really have to take the 4PM bus back to KL from Penang?
3) Can i bring suggie out with my everyday when im out of my house? (dont want my cats to disturb them)
4) My fiance and housemate are both smoker, i suppose there will be ciggie smell on them and their fingers, how will suggie re-act to it?
5) Occasionally i travel outstations and overseas for work, is there any solution for this? Like boarding, etc?

Sorry for throwing so many questions at once, i just wan to make sure i can cater up to their needs and be a responsible owner. Hey is there any gathering or TT sessions for suggie owners? Though i am not a suggie owner yet, but can i join to gather more info and learn from all the good owners out there?

I thank you in advance and hope that you guys can help me out with some of my questions.

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post Oct 10 2009, 02:44 PM

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QUOTE(CazzyCazz @ Oct 10 2009, 01:30 PM)
Ok i think i should summarize my points and questions as below:
1) Izzit possible to have suggie while i have cats in my house.
I'm quite sure that it is fine as long as you can keep your gliders out of your babies reach, because sugar gliders are very small, and cats are hunters by nature.
2) Once i'm bonded with my suggie, can i bring suggie out when i need to visit client? Will they make noise, etc?
Sugar gliders are nocturnal, which means that they sleep during the daytime and are active at night. Your glider will much probably sleep in your bonding pouch than make noises at your client.
3) I travel back to hometown by bus at least once a month, morning bus back to Penang and 4pm bus back to KL on Sundays (reach KL around 8 - 9 pm). I understand suggie wakes up between evening to midnight, is there any solution for me if i really have to take the 4PM bus back to KL from Penang?
I guess there's nothing much you can do aside from bringing them with you or leaving them at home. I suppose it depends on yourself. But in my opinion, reaching home at around 8-9 isn't very late so you should leave your gliders at home so not to stress them out with all the moving around.
3) Can i bring suggie out with my everyday when im out of my house? (dont want my cats to disturb them)
People actually suggest bringing your suggies with you while you go about doing your chores so they can get used to you and speed up the bonding process... But make sure that you have an apropriate bonding pouch and keep in mind that they have no control over their bowels and will more than likely eliminate in their pouch or on you if you take them out. Are you sure you don't mind being covered in suggie poo & pee while you work/play?

4) My fiance and housemate are both smoker, i suppose there will be ciggie smell on them and their fingers, how will suggie re-act to it?
First of all, do NOT smoke around your sugar gliders because it can kill them. As for the ciggie smell on your fingers, I'm unsure as to whether it is harmful or how the gliders will react (may try to taste your fingers, I guess?) but a little soap should get it off.
5) Occasionally i travel outstations and overseas for work, is there any solution for this? Like boarding, etc?
You can either entrust them to your fiance or housemate or send them to boarding. I think Hun at suggiesathome.com offers such services.
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Answers in blue. wink.gif I don't have any sugar gliders yet, but like you, I'm a hopeful parent... And hopefully I didn't give any wrong answers. >< Heh.
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QUOTE(jitshiong @ Oct 10 2009, 09:16 AM)
Probably he stumble upon a lizard or something that he has never seen before n that scared him. just like how a small kid would run back to their parents if they got scared,....
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Oh.. Maybe he did, I don't know.. But he seems a little better today.. Still a little jumpy but not crazy mad kinda jumpy :-) Does it usually take them so long to calm down? Hmm....
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post Oct 10 2009, 04:10 PM

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Hey guys.. just wanna know how u guys hang up the bottle in the exoterra thing.. ?
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QUOTE(babyvey @ Oct 10 2009, 02:44 PM)
Answers in blue. wink.gif I don't have any sugar gliders yet, but like you, I'm a hopeful parent... And hopefully I didn't give any wrong answers. >< Heh.
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Hi Babyvey,

Thank you so much for your information and tips, very happy to find out that there is still a hope for me to actually own suggies! Hey why are you a hopeful parent? What's keeping you from becoming a suggie parent? smile.gif

In my case, i will have to re-arrange my apartment to locate a safe place to house the sugar glider. All my cats are indoor cats and they are let free and not caged. Can i still place the cage in the common area (living room) or i should separate them from my kids? If i put the cage in the living room, i suppose my kids will do no harm but i am worried when suggies come to life at nite and making all sort of talking and noise, my kids will get curious and excited. What they will do is they will probably checking the cage out and jump on the cage or trying to reach them. Though they might not reach them from outside of the cage, but i guess it would scare them or the suggies under tremendous stress. (It sounds like i already know the answer, silly me!) I still have a spare room available where i can place the cage, just that occasionally my parents would come down to KL for short stay, then i will have no choice but to place the cage in the living room.

Oh well, i guess i should continue staying on in the forum to learn more until i get a solution for my future suggies smile.gif

Anyway thanks for your help and hopefully it does not take long for your to fulfill your wish of becoming a sugar glider parent. All the best and take care! thumbup.gif
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QUOTE(babyvey @ Oct 10 2009, 12:32 PM)
Hey, that's what I figured.. That's why I edited my question. I guess you didn't see it, but do you mind answering that too? ><
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Ops i didnt realize u edited the ques..hehe...

Glider-booster: It's really useful if you got yourself a picky eater. If your gliders eats up all the nutritional balanced diet you feed, then it's not a must.

Glider-cal: For HPW user, as long as u monitor and control the overall ratio of the fruits and vege you serve. It's not neccesary to feed glider-cal. Glider-cal is very concentrating calcium powder, can overdose easily. I still prefer to use fruits/vege as my glider calcium source.

Gliderade: Carbohydrate source. It's good for glider that has high exercise level. Replenish back the moisture and energy that lost after high activity level. I always suggest ppl serve gliderade and hpw as the basic supplements.

Acacia Gum: Also carbohydrate. But acacia gum is complex carbohydrate, glider absorb better. And it's fun for them to eat because it's sticky like gum. biggrin.gif Optional. I feed because i wan my glider to hav more variety. biggrin.gif

QUOTE(CazzyCazz @ Oct 10 2009, 01:30 PM)
Hi everyone & all the sifus out there,

I have been considering keeping suggies but i don't want to rush into it untill i gather enough of information from web & forums.

I really enjoy reading this forum as it is very informative and interesting, indeed it is really an eye opener to the suggies world.

Though i have been considering and tempted in keeping a pair of suggie, but i still have hesitations as i want to make sure i can handle and provide the right environment with lots of tender loving care. I am an animal lover but i know it takes more than that to be a good suggies owner.

I need some advice from all the sifus before i come out with a firm decision. My current situation is like this, I have 5 kids (adopted stray cats) living with me and my fiance in an apartment. I am not sure how would this affect suggies, can someone please advice? Setting up a nice cage and placing them in a safe place with good food is not an issue, but will my cats scare the hell out of suggies?

I also work from 9 - 5, but every Thursday i will be home late, around 10.30pm. I also travel back to home town in Penang once a month by bus. I also understand from this forum that once i am bonded with my suggie, i can also bring suggie to my office. Bringing suggie to the office is not an issue bcoz my boss always emphasize in making our office as our home. I also have 2 betta (fighting fish) in my office. I am in the sales & marketing line, occasionally i will have to visit my clients, which means i have to be out of the office.

Ok i think i should summarize my points and questions as below:
1) Izzit possible to have suggie while i have cats in my house.
2) Once i'm bonded with my suggie, can i bring suggie out when i need to visit client? Will they make noise, etc?
3) I travel back to hometown by bus at least once a month, morning bus back to Penang and 4pm bus back to KL on Sundays (reach KL around 8 - 9 pm). I understand suggie wakes up between evening to midnight, is there any solution for me if i really have to take the 4PM bus back to KL from Penang?
3) Can i bring suggie out with my everyday when im out of my house? (dont want my cats to disturb them)
4) My fiance and housemate are both smoker, i suppose there will be ciggie smell on them and their fingers, how will suggie re-act to it?
5) Occasionally i travel outstations and overseas for work, is there any solution for this? Like boarding, etc?

Sorry for throwing so many questions at once, i just wan to make sure i can cater up to their needs and be a responsible owner. Hey is there any gathering or TT sessions for suggie owners? Though i am not a suggie owner yet, but can i join to gather more info and learn from all the good owners out there?

I thank you in advance and hope that you guys can help me out with some of my questions.

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Welcome to the thread. I guess babyvey has answered your questions. Feel free to ask more if anything u don understand. I'm sure a lot owners here will help you.. biggrin.gif

Good to see a lot future owners study b4 getting glider... thumbup for you~


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QUOTE(CazzyCazz @ Oct 10 2009, 07:01 PM)
Hi Babyvey,

Thank you so much for your information and tips, very happy to find out that there is still a hope for me to actually own suggies! Hey why are you a hopeful parent? What's keeping you from becoming a suggie parent? smile.gif

In my case, i will have to re-arrange my apartment to locate a safe place to house the sugar glider. All my cats are indoor cats and they are let free and not caged. Can i still place the cage in the common area (living room) or i should separate them from my kids? If i put the cage in the living room, i suppose my kids will do no harm but i am worried when suggies come to life at nite and making all sort of talking and noise, my kids will get curious and excited. What they will do is they will probably checking the cage out and jump on the cage or trying to reach them. Though they might not reach them from outside of the cage, but i guess it would scare them or the suggies under tremendous stress.  (It sounds like i already know the answer, silly me!) I still have a spare room available where i can place the cage, just that occasionally my parents would come down to KL for short stay, then i will have no choice but to place the cage in the living room.

Oh well, i guess i should continue staying on in the forum to learn more until i get a solution for my future suggies smile.gif

Anyway thanks for your help and hopefully it does not take long for your to fulfill your wish of becoming a sugar glider parent. All the best and take care!  thumbup.gif
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It's better if you can put in separate room. Your cat might not intend to hurt the suggies, but sometime out of curiousity they may wan to 'play' with the gliders. Your lovely kids may accidentally hurts the glider, physically or mentally. You donwan to take the risk right?

Don forget, there is nature within cats to prey on mouse-liked animals. I heard a lot cases where cats kill gliders with their claws..even the cage door is closed... T-T

This post has been edited by eric138: Oct 10 2009, 07:07 PM
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QUOTE(CazzyCazz @ Oct 10 2009, 07:01 PM)
Hi Babyvey,

Thank you so much for your information and tips, very happy to find out that there is still a hope for me to actually own suggies! Hey why are you a hopeful parent? What's keeping you from becoming a suggie parent? smile.gif

In my case, i will have to re-arrange my apartment to locate a safe place to house the sugar glider. All my cats are indoor cats and they are let free and not caged. Can i still place the cage in the common area (living room) or i should separate them from my kids? If i put the cage in the living room, i suppose my kids will do no harm but i am worried when suggies come to life at nite and making all sort of talking and noise, my kids will get curious and excited. What they will do is they will probably checking the cage out and jump on the cage or trying to reach them. Though they might not reach them from outside of the cage, but i guess it would scare them or the suggies under tremendous stress.  (It sounds like i already know the answer, silly me!) I still have a spare room available where i can place the cage, just that occasionally my parents would come down to KL for short stay, then i will have no choice but to place the cage in the living room.

Oh well, i guess i should continue staying on in the forum to learn more until i get a solution for my future suggies smile.gif

Anyway thanks for your help and hopefully it does not take long for your to fulfill your wish of becoming a sugar glider parent. All the best and take care!  thumbup.gif
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The sugar gliders in Kch are RM600-500 and are only sold at petshops AND they are underaged.... That's what's stopping me.

I don't think it's wise to put the cage in any place that your babies will be able to access on their own. End of story. Maybe some other sg owners will say otherwise, I personally will not take the risk.
QUOTE(eric138 @ Oct 10 2009, 07:05 PM)
Ops i didnt realize u edited the ques..hehe...

Glider-booster: It's really useful if you got yourself a picky eater. If your gliders eats up all the nutritional balanced diet you feed, then it's not a must.

Glider-cal: For HPW user, as long as u monitor and control the overall ratio of the fruits and vege you serve. It's not neccesary to feed glider-cal. Glider-cal is very concentrating calcium powder, can overdose easily. I still prefer to use fruits/vege as my glider calcium source.

Gliderade: Carbohydrate source. It's good for glider that has high exercise level. Replenish back the moisture and energy that lost after high activity level. I always suggest ppl serve gliderade and hpw as the basic supplements.

Acacia Gum: Also carbohydrate. But acacia gum is complex carbohydrate, glider absorb better. And it's fun for them to eat because it's sticky like gum. biggrin.gif Optional. I feed because i wan my glider to hav more variety. biggrin.gif
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Thx Eric. biggrin.gif Whenever it comes to glider diet, it really blows my mind. = =

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QUOTE(CazzyCazz @ Oct 10 2009, 01:30 PM)
Hi everyone & all the sifus out there,

I have been considering keeping suggies but i don't want to rush into it untill i gather enough of information from web & forums.

I really enjoy reading this forum as it is very informative and interesting, indeed it is really an eye opener to the suggies world.

Though i have been considering and tempted in keeping a pair of suggie, but i still have hesitations as i want to make sure i can handle and provide the right environment with lots of tender loving care. I am an animal lover but i know it takes more than that to be a good suggies owner.

I need some advice from all the sifus before i come out with a firm decision. My current situation is like this, I have 5 kids (adopted stray cats) living with me and my fiance in an apartment. I am not sure how would this affect suggies, can someone please advice? Setting up a nice cage and placing them in a safe place with good food is not an issue, but will my cats scare the hell out of suggies?

I also work from 9 - 5, but every Thursday i will be home late, around 10.30pm. I also travel back to home town in Penang once a month by bus. I also understand from this forum that once i am bonded with my suggie, i can also bring suggie to my office. Bringing suggie to the office is not an issue bcoz my boss always emphasize in making our office as our home. I also have 2 betta (fighting fish) in my office. I am in the sales & marketing line, occasionally i will have to visit my clients, which means i have to be out of the office.

Ok i think i should summarize my points and questions as below:
1) Izzit possible to have suggie while i have cats in my house.
2) Once i'm bonded with my suggie, can i bring suggie out when i need to visit client? Will they make noise, etc?
3) I travel back to hometown by bus at least once a month, morning bus back to Penang and 4pm bus back to KL on Sundays (reach KL around 8 - 9 pm). I understand suggie wakes up between evening to midnight, is there any solution for me if i really have to take the 4PM bus back to KL from Penang?
3) Can i bring suggie out with my everyday when im out of my house? (dont want my cats to disturb them)
4) My fiance and housemate are both smoker, i suppose there will be ciggie smell on them and their fingers, how will suggie re-act to it?
5) Occasionally i travel outstations and overseas for work, is there any solution for this? Like boarding, etc?

Sorry for throwing so many questions at once, i just wan to make sure i can cater up to their needs and be a responsible owner. Hey is there any gathering or TT sessions for suggie owners? Though i am not a suggie owner yet, but can i join to gather more info and learn from all the good owners out there?

I thank you in advance and hope that you guys can help me out with some of my questions.

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Babyvey has answered most of ur questions, i just wanna add some...

u can bring them back to pg by bus n then travel back to kl...
most gliders won't be awake untill it's liek10pm or so...
they will be awake but will wait till u switch off the lights..
then they come out...

i used to bring them home to pg n bring them back to johor
that's an even longet journey
lol!
did that for like 4 years...
so i can assure u that it's not a problem if u do it properly

no TT for a long long time de
lol!



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