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Stock Market V36: Return of the Bull, Part IV, Bull defies Newton's Law of Gravity
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chyaw- I'm looking at KNM, Kinstel, Zelan possibly...
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ding ding, second round
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Bull gogogo~
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QUOTE(panasonic88 @ Jul 29 2009, 02:14 PM) ding ding, second round Come and show me your swing skills...   More adventurous...  Added on July 29, 2009, 2:17 pmDow fut and regionals aren't doing any better from my delayed 15min data..... This post has been edited by naz_b_85: Jul 29 2009, 02:17 PM |
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checking in V36~
Queueing Sealink today... minyak mentah is 66.60 atm |
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by the way, i'm quite confused on the new trading time next week.....
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Shanghai down 200 points!!!
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QUOTE(AdamG1981 @ Jul 29 2009, 02:19 PM) Shanghai down 200 points!!! Are you still bullish or thinking reversal?This post has been edited by naz_b_85: Jul 29 2009, 02:23 PM |
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Dow futures -50
Shanghai -230 HSI futures -460 Nikkei futures -40 |
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checking in. Still sitting with my stocks with no action.
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QUOTE(AdamG1981 @ Jul 29 2009, 02:19 PM) Shanghai down 200 points!!! So, what is your take? |
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QUOTE(naz_b_85 @ Jul 28 2009, 11:21 PM) Are you still bullish or thinking reversal? I be buying, but waiting for the right time. |
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Checked in..
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Upcoming events
29 Jul 2009 EIA Petroleum Status Report 30 Jul 2009 Jobless Claims EIA Natural Gas Status Report |
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Came back from scholarship presentation. wow, red sea.......... and new V36..... Check in Any good stock to recommend? |
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wah, Q price all sooooooo red
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STI doubled its losses to -1.9% after lunch break i think.
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STI very red wor!
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Adam Shanghai is the CSI 300 yes?
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checking in.
Reversion to the Mean. |
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Just when I wanted to swing..now it's catching falling knife...
 Added on July 29, 2009, 2:31 pmLook at all the blood... This post has been edited by naz_b_85: Jul 29 2009, 02:31 PM |
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time to buy buy buy~!
but don't know if i can make profit before my contract ends....  |
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QUOTE(naz_b_85 @ Jul 29 2009, 02:29 PM) Just when I wanted to swing..now it's catching falling knife... Still too early to say Added on July 29, 2009, 2:31 pmLook at all the blood... |
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wah~!!!!! FKLI 1160.86
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got my eyes all set for the prize, attacking Resorts agains!
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Wow.. open market -11 for ci
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Check in.
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Check in.....Looks like red days ahead now! Get ready for shopping
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i see one person lost 5k to cut loss
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So bloody red now. Shopping time?
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Market drop off the cliff again
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debbieyss you bought july contract?
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let more blood spill first...after all the blood also it won't jump up fast cause ppl in panic mode...be patient..
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Adam adam adam....i didn't short-sell..................................
Added on July 29, 2009, 2:36 pmMedufsaid, yes, JUly contract This post has been edited by debbieyss: Jul 29 2009, 02:36 PM |
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Dow fut -50 (del 15)
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Just got back from lunch - checking in.
is it time to PANIC yet? My TANJONG completed at 14.60 Wonder if I can get some more lower..... This post has been edited by David_Brent: Jul 29 2009, 02:40 PM |
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checkin in!
the redness is keeping my attention. first stimulus package coming soon! |
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Jul 29 2009, 02:39 PM
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well.....
i think this is a good scenario....having red sea. It should have staying at around 1150pt |
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down 11 pts only kcg puteh...
is not relli a panic, compared to the last few weeks... all previous gains r prolly still intact as well. |
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TA experiencing panic selling.
dammit! i'm watching my unrealised profits crumble!  long way to fall to my buy in price though Added on July 29, 2009, 2:43 pmok who's holding lions. This post has been edited by teehk_tee: Jul 29 2009, 02:43 PM |
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QUOTE(teehk_tee @ Jul 29 2009, 02:42 PM) TA experiencing panic selling. Lions are on strike today.... dammit! i'm watching my unrealised profits crumble! long way to fall to my buy in price though Added on July 29, 2009, 2:43 pmok who's holding lions.  |
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Trying to claw the way up
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the drop today wiped out gains from 3-4 days ago on some of my stocks. that was pretty fast.
i'm not taking the CI as a reliable barometer anymore. rather look at top 20 most active stocks. |
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QUOTE(teehk_tee @ Jul 29 2009, 02:42 PM) TA experiencing panic selling. TA drop is sap sap sui ladammit! i'm watching my unrealised profits crumble! long way to fall to my buy in price though Added on July 29, 2009, 2:43 pmok who's holding lions. |
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The worrying thing is volume could be quite high today.....
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Market been up for 2 weeks alreadi...
should expect some correction ... maybe a few days or 50-60pt.... --- could be a bargain later Note - parablolic UP, could be severe drop This post has been edited by tessei: Jul 29 2009, 02:48 PM |
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Time to buy??
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HARTA is holding up quite well.
Wonder if I should take some profit on that and wait for a bargain to come my way....... |
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i'm attaching something for everyone's reading.
HLB's daily trader's brief. |
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Only left with 1 green counter...
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Suddenly turn bearish sentiment
Added on July 29, 2009, 2:52 pm QUOTE(aurora97 @ Jul 29 2009, 02:40 PM) down 11 pts only kcg puteh... Now you must be relief that your counters are holding up wellis not relli a panic, compared to the last few weeks... all previous gains r prolly still intact as well. This post has been edited by jasontoh: Jul 29 2009, 02:52 PM |
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QUOTE(David_Brent @ Jul 29 2009, 02:49 PM) HARTA is holding up quite well. Rubberglove sector - can hold (trend - very bullish)Wonder if I should take some profit on that and wait for a bargain to come my way....... all the way up since H1N1... |
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ok, i've changed my outlook, market sentiment's gone really south. there's a lot of volume dumping today. my best guess is retail investors and contra traders all dumping. conspiracy theories suggest EPF's dumping to revise their positions.
speculate speculate |
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QUOTE(teehk_tee @ Jul 29 2009, 02:53 PM) ok, i've changed my outlook, market sentiment's gone really south. there's a lot of volume dumping today. my best guess is retail investors and contra traders all dumping. conspiracy theories suggest EPF's dumping to revise their positions. Ei....it seems to me like every Wednesday-Thursday timeframe, we will see people throwing.speculate speculate |
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WOW... HSI down 820points....
So far CI's damage seems minor, i guess mainly because 2nd/3rd liners didnt go up a lot recently. TM got some big shot support, back to 3.00...  This post has been edited by mopster: Jul 29 2009, 02:58 PM |
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ALAM still solid as a rock - what a class act!
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wow, heavy reddish on my portfolio.
SCOMY, SEASUNK. LIONCURAP all down.. |
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im waiting alam to come down .. sorry david
 Added on July 29, 2009, 2:58 pmif drop than drop more so i can accumulate more .. This post has been edited by mo_meng: Jul 29 2009, 02:58 PM |
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QUOTE(teehk_tee @ Jul 29 2009, 02:53 PM) ok, i've changed my outlook, market sentiment's gone really south. there's a lot of volume dumping today. my best guess is retail investors and contra traders all dumping. conspiracy theories suggest EPF's dumping to revise their positions. Do you think the cavalry will come riding over the hill around 3.45 to save us or are we all DOOMED? speculate speculate  |
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QUOTE(jasontoh @ Jul 29 2009, 02:54 PM) Ei....it seems to me like every Wednesday-Thursday timeframe, we will see people throwing. but usually volume's quite thin. |
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QUOTE(zamans98 @ Jul 29 2009, 02:56 PM) wow, heavy reddish on my portfolio. Seems like your portfolio is all high riskSCOMY, SEASUNK. LIONCURAP all down.. |
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You just need to wait for the shark to dump its shares. Currently, it is still not in action yet...
QUOTE(mo_meng @ Jul 29 2009, 02:57 PM) im waiting alam to come down .. sorry david Added on July 29, 2009, 2:58 pmif drop than drop more so i can accumulate more .. |
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QUOTE(mo_meng @ Jul 29 2009, 02:57 PM) im waiting alam to come down .. sorry david Me too. When go close to 1.50. Added on July 29, 2009, 2:58 pmif drop than drop more so i can accumulate more .. Dont know whether is a right move to buy back Genm now at 2.89. |
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crude oil dropped pretty bad as well...... still i think it's just sum healthy correction... after all the market has been up & up
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QUOTE(mo_meng @ Jul 29 2009, 02:57 PM) im waiting alam to come down .. sorry david That's OK! Added on July 29, 2009, 2:58 pmif drop than drop more so i can accumulate more .. I'll join you if it does.... |
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QUOTE(David_Brent @ Jul 29 2009, 02:58 PM) Do you think the cavalry will come riding over the hill around 3.45 to save us or are we all DOOMED? can't say for now. HSI's really gone off a cliff.best guess is to let it retrace around its fibonacci levels for now. |
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QUOTE(teehk_tee @ Jul 29 2009, 02:58 PM) but usually volume's quite thin. EPF throwing as well ma, after supporting so long. Amanah also going to be deployed soon |
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QUOTE(jasontoh @ Jul 29 2009, 03:00 PM) EPF throwing as well ma, after supporting so long. Amanah also going to be deployed soon yeah, you're right. i'm gonna buy in when it falls to my TP. |
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QUOTE(zamans98 @ Jul 29 2009, 02:56 PM) wow, heavy reddish on my portfolio. the counters name make me laugh.... SCOMY, SEASUNK. LIONCURAP all down.. |
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Maybank still as stubborn. Nothing much move............ |
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lol the top 20 active stocks are all fast losing their ground.
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QUOTE(teehk_tee @ Jul 29 2009, 03:00 PM) can't say for now. HSI's really gone off a cliff. go and do FIBO level at FKLI....previously b4 FTSE quite accurate lor....best guess is to let it retrace around its fibonacci levels for now. |
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QUOTE(teehk_tee @ Jul 29 2009, 03:02 PM) yeah, you're right. i'm gonna buy in when it falls to my TP. Too bad I did not cash in last few days. Looks like I can just see while waiting for cheque to be delivered to my house |
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Anyone want to sell me kinsteel?
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gonna buy in Sealink at 70 sens. i believe that'll be the crucial support. after all this stock hasn't risen much during this 2 week rally.
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QUOTE(jasontoh @ Jul 29 2009, 02:51 PM) Suddenly turn bearish sentiment my estimate was the KLCI was going to be volatile throughout May till Dec 09, i didnt expect July 09 for the KLCI to rally... caught me totally by suprise. Added on July 29, 2009, 2:52 pm Now you must be relief that your counters are holding up well If there is to be a significant correction to the KLCI than i will be in a position of advantage... due to the fact my counters hardly move or stay where they are, of course low ABP also helps. ... lets see whether may gamble pays off.. Defensive line up Axreit TM Bjtoto.. Portfolio, Paper Gain 3.0%, this morning was 4.0% lets see what tricks KLCI gonna pull out this time. This post has been edited by aurora97: Jul 29 2009, 03:09 PM |
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Are you hinting time to buy?
QUOTE(AdamG1981 @ Jul 29 2009, 03:05 PM) Anyone want to sell me kinsteel? |
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Jul 29 2009, 03:08 PM
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lionind looks juicy
 but bullet not enugh |
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Jul 29 2009, 03:09 PM
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QUOTE(tessei @ Jul 29 2009, 03:04 PM) go and do FIBO level at FKLI....previously b4 FTSE quite accurate lor.... the new FBMKLCI is .. really tricky to predict. better to do single stock analysis.QUOTE(jasontoh @ Jul 29 2009, 03:04 PM) Too bad I did not cash in last few days. Looks like I can just see while waiting for cheque to be delivered to my house i shoulda cashed in KNM at 91 sens. that's two times i let it go. sigh..QUOTE(AdamG1981 @ Jul 29 2009, 03:05 PM) Anyone want to sell me kinsteel? adam still bullish on kinsteel? .. hmm.. |
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Jul 29 2009, 03:09 PM
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QUOTE(aurora97 @ Jul 29 2009, 03:07 PM) my estimate was the KLCI was going to be volatile throughout May till Dec 09, i didnt expect July 09 for the KLCI to rally... caught me totally by suprise. Actually holding up good counters for rainy days also important as well as allocating some for growth. My growth stocks shaking now, but still way above my buying price.If there is to be a significant correction to the KLCI than i will be in a position of advantage... due to the fact my counters hardly move or stay where they are, of course low ABP also helps. ... lets see whether may gamble pays off.. I cannot guarantee how long they can stay above that price This post has been edited by jasontoh: Jul 29 2009, 03:10 PM |
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Jul 29 2009, 03:11 PM
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Kurap counters : All down, and FASTTTTTT too.
SCAMMY : Najib's link counter ma - where got RISKY.. |
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Jul 29 2009, 03:13 PM
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Sold KNM for RM200 profit zzzz...
Joined Lioncrap at .490 |
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QUOTE(zamans98 @ Jul 29 2009, 03:11 PM) Kurap counters : All down, and FASTTTTTT too. Not Sapcres? Nvm, later let Najib perform magic using ASMSCAMMY : Najib's link counter ma - where got RISKY.. This post has been edited by jasontoh: Jul 29 2009, 03:14 PM |
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Jul 29 2009, 03:16 PM
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No i am not bullish, i am just doing swing trade.
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Jul 29 2009, 03:17 PM
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oh shoot. terbeli twice SAAG. adeh..
HLe hang a while. Too many transx |
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QUOTE(zamans98 @ Jul 29 2009, 03:17 PM) oh shoot. terbeli twice SAAG. adeh.. i'm watching SAAG too, wat price u in?HLe hang a while. Too many transx |
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Jul 29 2009, 03:20 PM
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QUOTE(Junior83 @ Jul 29 2009, 03:19 PM) i'm watching SAAG too, wat price u in? 0.280 |
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Jul 29 2009, 03:20 PM
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Market sentiment changes too quick until I dunno whether to buy/sell/hold
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Jul 29 2009, 03:20 PM
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im having frequent disconnects with HLe. panic? lol.
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QUOTE(jasontoh @ Jul 29 2009, 03:20 PM) Market sentiment changes too quick until I dunno whether to buy/sell/hold put money in pocket to buy PDA |
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QUOTE(aurora97 @ Jul 29 2009, 03:22 PM) put money in pocket to buy PDA Bought PDA phoneAdded on July 29, 2009, 3:23 pm QUOTE(teehk_tee @ Jul 29 2009, 03:20 PM) im having frequent disconnects with HLe. panic? lol. Meaning only small fish panicThis post has been edited by jasontoh: Jul 29 2009, 03:23 PM |
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Jul 29 2009, 03:23 PM
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I think u'll have to decide what the long term market sentiments are.
Bull market? Or one multi-month bear market rally. |
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Jul 29 2009, 03:29 PM
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CARLSBERG shot up above RM4 already
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Jul 29 2009, 03:33 PM
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activity's died off.
tonight probably will burn midnight oil to do some in depth tech analysis. holding powarrrrrrrrrrr |
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Jul 29 2009, 04:31 PM
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No posting in past 1 hr ?
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Jul 29 2009, 04:33 PM
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QUOTE(cute_boboi @ Jul 29 2009, 05:31 PM) No posting in past 1 hr ? LYN maintenance time. |
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Jul 29 2009, 04:33 PM
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forum down for maintenance
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Jul 29 2009, 04:36 PM
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QUOTE(jasontoh @ Jul 29 2009, 04:23 PM) Meaning only small fish panic |
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Jul 29 2009, 04:37 PM
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stock take habis!
so exhausted... all my counters still holding up good |
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Jul 29 2009, 04:39 PM
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QUOTE(panasonic88 @ Jul 29 2009, 04:37 PM) stock take habis! gud 4 u so exhausted... all my counters still holding up good my KNM falls |
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Jul 29 2009, 04:40 PM
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reported to work. a bit late.
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Jul 29 2009, 04:42 PM
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lemme see
paper gained dropped 2% as compared to yesterday very mild only, sometimes holding boring counters are sweet too  |
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Jul 29 2009, 04:43 PM
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 market down LYN pun also down  |
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Jul 29 2009, 04:44 PM
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QUOTE(fergie1100 @ Jul 29 2009, 03:29 PM) CARLSBERG shot up above RM4 already Scared the shit out of me,I was looking at your avatar... and after that i clicked refresh.. the same picture came out showin LYN maintenance..  |
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Jul 29 2009, 04:45 PM
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Kinsteel rocks
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Jul 29 2009, 04:47 PM
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Good holding power and buy fundamental good counters are the most important thing.
Now up or down just watch for fun. When economy recovers, all will give good profit  That's why during Mar 09, I still can sleep pretty well! QUOTE(panasonic88 @ Jul 29 2009, 04:42 PM) lemme see paper gained dropped 2% as compared to yesterday very mild only, sometimes holding boring counters are sweet too |
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Jul 29 2009, 04:47 PM
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QUOTE(panasonic88 @ Jul 29 2009, 04:42 PM) lemme see Especially ALAM!paper gained dropped 2% as compared to yesterday very mild only, sometimes holding boring counters are sweet too Solid as a rock What a wonderful, quality and worthwhile stock.... I'm in love with it......  |
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Jul 29 2009, 04:48 PM
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Monkies are out,my estimate CI down 7 points only at close.
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Jul 29 2009, 04:51 PM
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QUOTE(lklatmy @ Jul 29 2009, 04:48 PM) Monkies are out,my estimate CI down 7 points only at close.  wahaha -7.9....Added on July 29, 2009, 4:52 pmSealink queue didnt match....  This post has been edited by mopster: Jul 29 2009, 04:52 PM |
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Jul 29 2009, 04:54 PM
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I got a question...
If a counter usually declare dividend on Apr and Aug every year base on the history but this year they declared dividend on Apr and right issue on Jun, so is there high chances that they wont declare dividend on Aug? |
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Jul 29 2009, 04:55 PM
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and today turnover reach RM2bil
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Jul 29 2009, 04:56 PM
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hey guys i have a question...if theres a X symbol bside my counter..what happened to it ar?
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Jul 29 2009, 05:02 PM
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QUOTE(Mikiyo @ Jul 29 2009, 04:56 PM) hey guys i have a question...if theres a X symbol bside my counter..what happened to it ar? after the Ex date, means u will be receiving dividend very soon (or some other entitlement)..remember to belanja me ya |
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Jul 29 2009, 05:05 PM
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QUOTE(aurora97 @ Jul 29 2009, 05:02 PM) after the Ex date, means u will be receiving dividend very soon (or some other entitlement).. why wasnt i notified or something!? didnt know kps was gonna receive dividend at all XDremember to belanja me ya |
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Jul 29 2009, 05:06 PM
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QUOTE(! Love Money @ Jul 29 2009, 04:43 PM) market down LYN pun also down QUOTE(Babablacksheep @ Jul 29 2009, 04:44 PM) Scared the shit out of me, hahah..... i'm the one who bring down lyn server I was looking at your avatar... and after that i clicked refresh.. the same picture came out showin LYN maintenance.. |
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Jul 29 2009, 05:07 PM
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Europe opening in green??
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Jul 29 2009, 05:08 PM
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QUOTE(Mikiyo @ Jul 29 2009, 05:05 PM) why wasnt i notified or something!? didnt know kps was gonna receive dividend at all XD sayang u never jaga your own counter is it?Final 4¢ announce Ex register pay 18-Jun-09 29-Jul-09 31-Jul-09 14-Aug-09 lucky u not playing Warrant. Warrant expire how? |
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Jul 29 2009, 05:08 PM
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QUOTE(Mikiyo @ Jul 29 2009, 05:05 PM) why wasnt i notified or something!? didnt know kps was gonna receive dividend at all XD If u are using M2U, click mouse over Live Quotes and click on Stock Indicators.For a list of dividends, you can check this link: http://www.klse.com.my/website/bm/listed_c...te_actions.html This post has been edited by mopster: Jul 29 2009, 05:10 PM |
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Jul 29 2009, 05:10 PM
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All long term counters holding up like steel, while growth counters drop a bit, with TA, OSK and Dialog making up the major casualties
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Jul 29 2009, 05:12 PM
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QUOTE(aurora97 @ Jul 29 2009, 05:08 PM) sayang u never jaga your own counter is it? yea thank god phew....lucky i am entitled for the dividend! Final 4¢ announce Ex register pay 18-Jun-09 29-Jul-09 31-Jul-09 14-Aug-09 lucky u not playing Warrant. Warrant expire how?  thx a lot aurora!Added on July 29, 2009, 5:12 pm QUOTE(mopster @ Jul 29 2009, 05:08 PM) If u are using M2U, click mouse over Live Quotes and click on Stock Indicators. thx a lot too! For a list of dividends, you can check this link: http://www.klse.com.my/website/bm/listed_c...te_actions.html now i know where i can check all the announcementsThis post has been edited by Mikiyo: Jul 29 2009, 05:12 PM |
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Arreit managed to stand firm back at 76 sens. yay!
p/s: 3.4190 dividend ex on this friday. tomolo last day to buy! |
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Jul 29 2009, 05:16 PM
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Decided to sell off some of my Uchitec as I think the market will drop some more.... will buy back at a lower price...
Tonight can hold KFC party! |
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Jul 29 2009, 05:17 PM
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I made a poor decision today, sold Arreit for peanut to free up some cash for sales...
but it wasnt a real sale.. and dividend also fly away liao... This post has been edited by mopster: Jul 29 2009, 05:20 PM |
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Jul 29 2009, 05:17 PM
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I'm using M2U, recently bjtoto gave some share dividends, now I got odd lot, how do I sell this, does anybody know?
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Jul 29 2009, 05:21 PM
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QUOTE(mopster @ Jul 29 2009, 05:17 PM) I made a poor decision today, sold Arreit for peanut to free up some cash for sales... awww.... but it wasnt a real sale.. QUOTE(conxtion @ Jul 29 2009, 05:17 PM) I'm using M2U, recently bjtoto gave some share dividends, now I got odd lot, how do I sell this, does anybody know? online trading platform cant key in odd lots... maybe sell thru remisier?Thanks in advance, sifu-sifu and bros, sis. |
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Jul 29 2009, 05:21 PM
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QUOTE(conxtion @ Jul 29 2009, 05:17 PM) I'm using M2U, recently bjtoto gave some share dividends, now I got odd lot, how do I sell this, does anybody know? hihi, i think you need to sell through ur remisier at "odd lot market"... charges are different.. plz call him for more information..Thanks in advance, sifu-sifu and bros, sis. |
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Jul 29 2009, 05:23 PM
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QUOTE(panasonic88 @ Jul 29 2009, 05:21 PM) awww.... itrade can sell odd lots online trading platform cant key in odd lots... maybe sell thru remisier?  |
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Jul 29 2009, 05:25 PM
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QUOTE(panasonic88 @ Jul 29 2009, 05:21 PM) awww.... yeah sell through remisier, odd lot prices normally sux... online trading platform cant key in odd lots... maybe sell thru remisier? how is it calculated, no idea... i know when i saw the statement i was really pissed off thats all. brokerage is the same, ust the market pricing is a bit different.. This post has been edited by aurora97: Jul 29 2009, 05:26 PM |
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Jul 29 2009, 05:38 PM
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hey aurora...another question sry...fast one
if i were to sell my kps today..would i have been entitled to the dividend? 5843 KPS Final Dividend 4% Ex date 29/07/2009 |
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Jul 29 2009, 05:58 PM
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QUOTE(Mikiyo @ Jul 29 2009, 05:38 PM) hey aurora...another question sry...fast one yes. if i were to sell my kps today..would i have been entitled to the dividend? 5843 KPS Final Dividend 4% Ex date 29/07/2009 ---- Example If EX Date was 29/7/09 and you sell before the Ex date say 28/7/2009 - not entitled If Ex Date was 29/7/09 and u buy, u will be entitled to dividend If Ex Date was 29/7/09 and u buy, and than Sell... i think answer is "Maybe" ---> need to do some reading on this. This post has been edited by aurora97: Jul 29 2009, 06:02 PM |
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Jul 29 2009, 05:58 PM
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Checking in to V36
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QUOTE(mopster @ Jul 29 2009, 05:21 PM) hihi, i think you need to sell through ur remisier at "odd lot market"... charges are different.. plz call him for more information.. odd lot brokerage fees still same... i just sell my 450 units of maybank rights few month ago through my OSK remiser... RM40 |
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QUOTE(Mikiyo @ Jul 29 2009, 05:38 PM) hey aurora...another question sry...fast one If the ex-date is 29/07/2009 (which is today), and you sold your KPS today (which you bought before 29/7/2009), you would be entitled for the dividend. if i were to sell my kps today..would i have been entitled to the dividend? 5843 KPS Final Dividend 4% Ex date 29/07/2009 If you're interested to know more, you can read the guide on dividend : http://forum.lowyat.net/topic/1039913 The guide is still not completed yet but do explain regarding the ex-date This post has been edited by kmarc: Jul 29 2009, 06:27 PM |
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Jul 29 2009, 07:32 PM
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Why this MPHB always buy back their share?
Notice of Shares Buy Back - Immediate Announcement Date of Buy Back : 29/07/2009 Description of Shares Purchased : Ordinary shares of RM1.00 each No. of Shares Purchased : 1,593,900 shares Minimum Price Paid For Each Share Purchased : RM 1.690 Maximum Price Paid For Each Share Purchased : RM 1.780 Total Consideration Paid : RM 0.00 No. of Shares Purchased Retained in Treasury : 0 shares No. of Shares Which Are Proposed To Be Cancelled : 0 shares Cumulative Net Outstanding Treasury Shares As At To-Date : 92,166,800 shares Adjusted Issued Capital After Cancellation : 0 Date Lodged With Registrar of Company : Lodged By : Remarks: The number of shares with voting rights in issue after the above shares buy-back is 985,581,854. |
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QUOTE(mynewuser @ Jul 29 2009, 07:32 PM) Why this MPHB always buy back their share? Mayb because the company is trying to improve its EPS value and thus the value of its stock.Notice of Shares Buy Back - Immediate Announcement Date of Buy Back : 29/07/2009 Description of Shares Purchased : Ordinary shares of RM1.00 each No. of Shares Purchased : 1,593,900 shares Minimum Price Paid For Each Share Purchased : RM 1.690 Maximum Price Paid For Each Share Purchased : RM 1.780 Total Consideration Paid : RM 0.00 No. of Shares Purchased Retained in Treasury : 0 shares No. of Shares Which Are Proposed To Be Cancelled : 0 shares Cumulative Net Outstanding Treasury Shares As At To-Date : 92,166,800 shares Adjusted Issued Capital After Cancellation : 0 Date Lodged With Registrar of Company : Lodged By : Remarks: The number of shares with voting rights in issue after the above shares buy-back is 985,581,854. |
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Jul 29 2009, 09:26 PM
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QUOTE(kmarc @ Jul 29 2009, 06:27 PM) If the ex-date is 29/07/2009 (which is today), and you sold your KPS today (which you bought before 29/7/2009), you would be entitled for the dividend. k thanks!! If you're interested to know more, you can read the guide on dividend : http://forum.lowyat.net/topic/1039913 The guide is still not completed yet but do explain regarding the ex-date Added on July 29, 2009, 9:27 pm QUOTE(aurora97 @ Jul 29 2009, 05:58 PM) yes. k understood! XD---- Example If EX Date was 29/7/09 and you sell before the Ex date say 28/7/2009 - not entitled If Ex Date was 29/7/09 and u buy, u will be entitled to dividend If Ex Date was 29/7/09 and u buy, and than Sell... i think answer is "Maybe" ---> need to do some reading on this. This post has been edited by Mikiyo: Jul 29 2009, 09:27 PM |
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QUOTE(mynewuser @ Jul 29 2009, 07:32 PM) Why this MPHB always buy back their share? not only this... everyday when i browse company announcement in bursa there is plenty company who do that...Notice of Shares Buy Back - Immediate Announcement Date of Buy Back : 29/07/2009 Description of Shares Purchased : Ordinary shares of RM1.00 each No. of Shares Purchased : 1,593,900 shares Minimum Price Paid For Each Share Purchased : RM 1.690 Maximum Price Paid For Each Share Purchased : RM 1.780 Total Consideration Paid : RM 0.00 No. of Shares Purchased Retained in Treasury : 0 shares No. of Shares Which Are Proposed To Be Cancelled : 0 shares Cumulative Net Outstanding Treasury Shares As At To-Date : 92,166,800 shares Adjusted Issued Capital After Cancellation : 0 Date Lodged With Registrar of Company : Lodged By : Remarks: The number of shares with voting rights in issue after the above shares buy-back is 985,581,854. this is common... nothing special Added on July 29, 2009, 9:32 pmUS open lower but what suprise me is... UK green the whole day... wonder wat happpened? This post has been edited by ! Love Money: Jul 29 2009, 09:32 PM |
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Jul 29 2009, 09:47 PM
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Tomorrow is Handal's debut in KLSE... there may be a warm welcome party for her (goreng) like XQ & Samchem..
On the other hand, Uncle has revealed his riddle, 3069 & 7207 |
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Jul 29 2009, 09:58 PM
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QUOTE(mopster @ Jul 29 2009, 09:47 PM) Tomorrow is Handal's debut in KLSE... there may be a warm welcome party for her (goreng) like XQ & Samchem.. cscenic & mcfb? so cold ler the stock... On the other hand, Uncle has revealed his riddle, 3069 & 7207 |
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QUOTE(! Love Money @ Jul 29 2009, 06:04 PM) odd lot brokerage fees still same... i just sell my 450 units of maybank rights few month ago through my OSK remiser... RM40 My odd lot only 7 shares which if I sell not enough to cover brokerage fee. In which case, if i sell the even lots, so probably just leave it. Is there any minimum that we need to maintain in the account ? |
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Jul 29 2009, 10:51 PM
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Minyak Mentah down again.
Sold SAAG (double purchase) for loss RM51. Looks like wrong bet, tomorow is actually a good buy for SAAG. Haiyoo. So early buy on DIP today |
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QUOTE(aurora97 @ Jul 29 2009, 05:58 PM) Example Wrong already.If EX Date was 29/7/09 and you sell before the Ex date say 28/7/2009 - not entitled If Ex Date was 29/7/09 and u buy, u will be entitled to dividend If Ex Date was 29/7/09 and u buy, and than Sell... i think answer is "Maybe" ---> need to do some reading on this. If ex-date is 29, buy at 29, you won't get the dividend. Want to get the dividend, must buy at 28 and hold overnight and sell at 29, then you will get the dividend. They will look for shareholders on 28 5.00pm (after market closed). Added on July 29, 2009, 10:57 pm QUOTE(Mikiyo @ Jul 29 2009, 05:38 PM) hey aurora...another question sry...fast one You will be entitled the dividend even sell today. if i were to sell my kps today..would i have been entitled to the dividend? 5843 KPS Final Dividend 4% Ex date 29/07/2009 This post has been edited by cherroy: Jul 29 2009, 10:57 PM |
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Jul 29 2009, 11:01 PM
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QUOTE(zamans98 @ Jul 29 2009, 10:51 PM) Minyak Mentah down again. Minyak Mentah 64.20 now...Sold SAAG (double purchase) for loss RM51. Looks like wrong bet, tomorow is actually a good buy for SAAG. Haiyoo. So early buy on DIP today DJ's chart is like roller coaster ride, up down up down up down I dont think KLCI had a correction at all.. just a drop of 7.90.. anyone agree/disagree ? |
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Jul 29 2009, 11:15 PM
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Is USD going up or just crude oil going down fast and furious? Seems like Gold also drop
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QUOTE(cherroy @ Jul 30 2009, 01:56 AM) Wrong already. This also wrong,shud be 31. the shareholder list will be checked on entitlement date, which is usually 2 day after ex-date.If ex-date is 29, buy at 29, you won't get the dividend. Want to get the dividend, must buy at 28 and hold overnight and sell at 29, then you will get the dividend. They will look for shareholders on 28 5.00pm (after market closed). Added on July 29, 2009, 10:57 pm You will be entitled the dividend even sell today. |
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Jul 29 2009, 11:20 PM
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QUOTE(zamans98 @ Jul 29 2009, 10:51 PM) Minyak Mentah down again. ya, actually plan to buy but c ppl dump away in 5k lots .. no ball to key in ady Sold SAAG (double purchase) for loss RM51. Looks like wrong bet, tomorow is actually a good buy for SAAG. Haiyoo. So early buy on DIP today |
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Jul 29 2009, 11:27 PM
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QUOTE(cherroy @ Jul 29 2009, 10:56 PM) Wrong already. If ex-date is 29, buy at 29, you won't get the dividend. Want to get the dividend, must buy at 28 and hold overnight and sell at 29, then you will get the dividend. They will look for shareholders on 28 5.00pm (after market closed). Added on July 29, 2009, 10:57 pm You will be entitled the dividend even sell today. QUOTE(my_cat @ Jul 29 2009, 11:16 PM) This also wrong,shud be 31. the shareholder list will be checked on entitlement date, which is usually 2 day after ex-date. huh?!?!?! im getting confused again! so....i must hold until 31st of july? |
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Jul 29 2009, 11:28 PM
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QUOTE(my_cat @ Jul 29 2009, 11:16 PM) This also wrong,shud be 31. the shareholder list will be checked on entitlement date, which is usually 2 day after ex-date. Yup. Shareholders list is about entitlement date, (my apology) just ordinary retailers can just stick the ex-date for reference, as delivery of shares and transferring for T+2/3 is automatic nowadays. |
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Jul 29 2009, 11:31 PM
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QUOTE(Mikiyo @ Jul 30 2009, 02:27 AM) huh?!?!?! im getting confused again! so....i must hold until 31st of july? No no no, sorry for confusing u. u juz need to hold till 29.coz T+3, for those buy on 28, their share will only in the CDS account on 31, so shareholder list will be checked only on 31st after 4pm or 5pm. |
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QUOTE(Mikiyo @ Jul 29 2009, 11:27 PM) huh?!?!?! im getting confused again! so....i must hold until 31st of july? You can sell on 29 to entitle the dividend if the ex-date is 29, that's fir sure.The entitlement date is about transferring of share into the CDS account, which if not understand, just stick with the ex-date will do, as under CDS, you don't need to worry about the entitlement date. Previously under cert time, entitlement date is the date we must register the share into our name to entitle the dividend. With now computerised scriptless and auto transfer, don't need to bother much. |
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Jul 29 2009, 11:36 PM
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i see...ok thx cherroy and my_cat! i truly understand the concept now!
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QUOTE(Mikiyo @ Jul 29 2009, 11:36 PM) i see...ok thx cherroy and my_cat! i truly understand the concept now! panajie expert in dividen related question .. ask her .. |
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Jul 30 2009, 12:10 AM
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Odd lot brokerage is RM 12 plus clearing fee plus stamp duty.
Odd lot means anything less than 100 shares.If you sold 450 units ,it is actually 4 board lots of 100 units each and 50 units odd lots amalgamated into one contract,in which case,the minimum of RM40 applicable to board lot is charged. Had you sold only the 50 units,then the commission rate is RM12. |
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The US dollar index is testing resistance aka previous support. As you can see, the SPX is trying to test the inverse h&s neckline with RSI at 50 which shows tremendous support.
Like i said, this is a bull market, rather than a bear market rally. The main reason is, Investors want the market to drop so they can buy before its too late. Those investors are "underinvested". So believe in your analysis, oil dropping at 4 dollars are a reaction of euro dropping like a rock along with a bearish inventory. Good thing is, China will reduce fuel prices. |
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QUOTE(AdamG1981 @ Jul 30 2009, 12:10 AM) The US dollar index is testing resistance aka previous support. As you can see, the SPX is trying to test the inverse h&s neckline with RSI at 50 which shows tremendous support. Does this mean we should bargain hunt over the next days, Adam?Like i said, this is a bull market, rather than a bear market rally. The main reason is, Investors want the market to drop so they can buy before its too late. Those investors are "underinvested". So believe in your analysis, oil dropping at 4 dollars are a reaction of euro dropping like a rock along with a bearish inventory. Good thing is, China will reduce fuel prices. Or side-line? |
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Jul 30 2009, 12:28 AM
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QUOTE(David_Brent @ Jul 29 2009, 09:14 AM) Does this mean we should bargain hunt over the next days, Adam? DB, i am not too sure if you received my newslettter yesterday but i did say its better to stay on the sidelines and wait for dips to long. Or side-line? If you want to contra, you should wait for the price to fall close to near 10 sma, then purchase and then sell at 3 sma. (Applicable on high volume stocks only) August 1st is Chinese PMI, so be very wary tomorrow and friday. Added on July 30, 2009, 12:32 amWill it be useful if i hold a technical analysis class for stocks and futures held at OSK HQ? This post has been edited by AdamG1981: Jul 30 2009, 12:32 AM |
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Jul 30 2009, 12:42 AM
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QUOTE(AdamG1981 @ Jul 30 2009, 12:28 AM) DB, i am not too sure if you received my newslettter yesterday but i did say its better to stay on the sidelines and wait for dips to long. I read the newsletters religiously every day and saw your comment about buying on dips. My problem is: what is a dip?If you want to contra, you should wait for the price to fall close to near 10 sma, then purchase and then sell at 3 sma. (Applicable on high volume stocks only) August 1st is Chinese PMI, so be very wary tomorrow and friday. Added on July 30, 2009, 12:32 amWill it be useful if i hold a technical analysis class for stocks and futures held at OSK HQ? One man's dip is another man's trench - if you see what I mean. Does buying TANJONG at 14.60 today when it just hit 15.30 constitute a 'dip' - for example? I definitely think a technical analysis class for stocks and futures held at OSK HQ would be widely welcomed and well attended by many - especially on here. I would sign up like a shot. DB Oh: P.S. I don't do contra. This post has been edited by David_Brent: Jul 30 2009, 12:46 AM |
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Jul 30 2009, 12:51 AM
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QUOTE(David_Brent @ Jul 29 2009, 09:42 AM) I read the newsletters religiously every day and saw your comment about buying on dips. My problem is: what is a dip? DB,One man's dip is another man's trench - if you see what I mean. Does buying TANJONG at 14.60 today when it just hit 15.30 constitute a 'dip' - for example? I definitely think a technical analysis class for stocks and futures held at OSK HQ would be widely welcomed and well attended by many - especially on here. I would sign up like a shot. DB IT's all about buying when there's a panic selling, such as today when shanghai crashed. That was a good opportunity to daytrade some high volume stocks. For Tanjong, it's all about your timeframe, how long do you want to hold and do you feel comfortable buying at that PRICE? Here are some tips that might help to identify a dip. Contra play requires a very capable technical ability to identify short term oversold base on the timeframe you are using. Since contra is T+4 for some, it is highly advisable to only purchase stocks when 4 hr chart is oversold, with possible candlestick (inverted hammer, hammer, doji, piercing engulfing) Please use 2 technical indicators the most with moving averages as support and resistance. IF you are a pure chartist, support and resistance or (SR) and trendline are useful to identify possible entry and EXIT points. IF i do hold a class, i will explain this in further details. Added on July 30, 2009, 12:52 amDB, if you don't do contra, please focus on the weekly and daily chart patterns, or technical indicators. This post has been edited by AdamG1981: Jul 30 2009, 12:52 AM |
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Jul 30 2009, 12:55 AM
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QUOTE(AdamG1981 @ Jul 30 2009, 12:51 AM) DB, It will be very worthwhile to attend if you do hold a class....very interesting tips and invaluable for someone like me.IT's all about buying when there's a panic selling, such as today when shanghai crashed. That was a good opportunity to daytrade some high volume stocks. For Tanjong, it's all about your timeframe, how long do you want to hold and do you feel comfortable buying at that PRICE? Here are some tips that might help to identify a dip. Contra play requires a very capable technical ability to identify short term oversold base on the timeframe you are using. Since contra is T+4 for some, it is highly advisable to only purchase stocks when 4 hr chart is oversold, with possible candlestick (inverted hammer, hammer, doji, piercing engulfing) Please use 2 technical indicators the most with moving averages as support and resistance. IF you are a pure chartist, support and resistance or (SR) and trendline are useful to identify possible entry and EXIT points. IF i do hold a class, i will explain this in further details. Added on July 30, 2009, 12:52 amDB, if you don't do contra, please focus on the weekly and daily chart patterns, or technical indicators. Many thanks. |
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Jul 30 2009, 02:40 AM
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QUOTE(AdamG1981 @ Jul 30 2009, 12:51 AM) DB, Good for newbies/regular trader for stock/futures exposure... if u do over the weekend, i'll be there..IT's all about buying when there's a panic selling, such as today when shanghai crashed. That was a good opportunity to daytrade some high volume stocks. For Tanjong, it's all about your timeframe, how long do you want to hold and do you feel comfortable buying at that PRICE? Here are some tips that might help to identify a dip. Contra play requires a very capable technical ability to identify short term oversold base on the timeframe you are using. Since contra is T+4 for some, it is highly advisable to only purchase stocks when 4 hr chart is oversold, with possible candlestick (inverted hammer, hammer, doji, piercing engulfing) Please use 2 technical indicators the most with moving averages as support and resistance. IF you are a pure chartist, support and resistance or (SR) and trendline are useful to identify possible entry and EXIT points. IF i do hold a class, i will explain this in further details. Added on July 30, 2009, 12:52 amDB, if you don't do contra, please focus on the weekly and daily chart patterns, or technical indicators. sometimes when u type, it could be double meaning, if got sifu teaching 'LIVE' the meaning/method can be more EFFECTIVELY delivered to who ever want to learn... weekday should be fine too... wanna learn must sacrifice a bit.!! hehehehe... |
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Jul 30 2009, 05:13 AM
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Wow.. Crude Oil drop like mad @.@ Luckily I sold KNM today lol
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Jul 30 2009, 05:23 AM
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QUOTE(shoduken @ Jul 30 2009, 05:13 AM) Wow.. Crude Oil drop like mad @.@ Luckily I sold KNM today lol Yeah.. US has too much inventory. Oil will go back $50.Other commodity like steel, copper, etc.. all over-bought and tanking big time. Sell Sell Sell!! It is going to be cheap again. Also, the US treasury auction was pretty weak..China doesn't want to buy. It might be time to be a bear again. This post has been edited by danmooncake: Jul 30 2009, 05:35 AM |
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Jul 30 2009, 05:57 AM
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QUOTE(shoduken @ Jul 30 2009, 05:13 AM) Wow.. Crude Oil drop like mad @.@ Luckily I sold KNM today lol shoduken, seriously its going to affect knm ? if so i am going to output today too. Need your update.and i also noticed that there is a 6million shares disposed by smallcap.. too at 0.9 AdamG, what do you think ? still with the TP at rm1?  .. which muscle going to sustain .. the left or the right ? suddenly confuse a little This post has been edited by lsmpro80: Jul 30 2009, 05:59 AM |
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Jul 30 2009, 06:03 AM
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Seems like a series of things going wrong. First the CSI selloff then oil inventories pushing crude down...commodities may retreat now. Also i read a story of a Nymex official commenting on how they're looking into introducing regulations such as making it mandatory to take contract deliveries on crude in an effort to curb speculation/manipulation...this is very interesting.....
Added on July 30, 2009, 6:14 amMany believe that China is set up now for a bubble but the question is when will it explode? Next year? Until then I think bulls want to rally but not without pullbacks.. This post has been edited by naz_b_85: Jul 30 2009, 06:14 AM |
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Jul 30 2009, 06:36 AM
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QUOTE(naz_b_85 @ Jul 30 2009, 06:03 AM) Seems like a series of things going wrong. First the CSI selloff then oil inventories pushing crude down...commodities may retreat now. Also i read a story of a Nymex official commenting on how they're looking into introducing regulations such as making it mandatory to take contract deliveries on crude in an effort to curb speculation/manipulation...this is very interesting..... China already exploding now.. not next year. Read the news!Added on July 30, 2009, 6:14 amMany believe that China is set up now for a bubble but the question is when will it explode? Next year? Until then I think bulls want to rally but not without pullbacks.. More pullback on today. Commodity accumulation by China too much.. no where to go, products made stored in warehouse. Where are the buyers? We're doom again! |
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Jul 30 2009, 06:58 AM
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Well, there are news for the pullback is just for this particular 2 days.. how far it goes will be the new beginning for the month August09 . Its a start the big players trying to make for the upcoming new policies to run. Its a ritual setting for the month of August supported by majority though.
Well, still another speculation news, and what is happening overseas on the pullback yesterday seems subsiding and easing off from the cliff drop. Will check out today's response and performance of all small cap counters. Rally for the 1st of August going to be interesting after all . Wish all with Best of Lucks @@ |
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Jul 30 2009, 07:31 AM
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Adam, I didn't received any of your newsletter...
I've PM you previously, and received your confirmation email... I wanna in the list!!!! QUOTE(AdamG1981 @ Jul 30 2009, 12:28 AM) DB, i am not too sure if you received my newslettter yesterday but i did say its better to stay on the sidelines and wait for dips to long. If you want to contra, you should wait for the price to fall close to near 10 sma, then purchase and then sell at 3 sma. (Applicable on high volume stocks only) August 1st is Chinese PMI, so be very wary tomorrow and friday. Added on July 30, 2009, 12:32 amWill it be useful if i hold a technical analysis class for stocks and futures held at OSK HQ? |
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Jul 30 2009, 07:40 AM
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mega sales mega sales
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Jul 30 2009, 08:36 AM
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Checking in.
In my humble opinion, people in Asia have chasen up the goreng stocks too high. Perhaps time for them to take a re look at some fundamentally good stocks. Or else buying some of the warrants of blue chips ( as suggested by Kenanga ) to hedge for next year ( better economy ). I still believe DOW would cross 10,000 this year. The bull is real. Up or down is just a daily affair, longer term still uptrend. Just my personal opinion. This post has been edited by SKY 1809: Jul 30 2009, 08:41 AM |
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Jul 30 2009, 08:42 AM
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morning sky .. did you do any transactions lately?
Added on July 30, 2009, 8:43 amim hoping CI to drop more before i go in This post has been edited by mo_meng: Jul 30 2009, 08:43 AM |
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Jul 30 2009, 08:44 AM
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QUOTE(mo_meng @ Jul 30 2009, 08:42 AM) morning sky .. did you do any transactions lately? Yes, i bought some Bursa CL and XQ.Added on July 30, 2009, 8:43 amim hoping CI to drop more before i go in Stocks that i can sleep well IF there is a correction coming. CI up or down does not mean every stock is good or bad. This post has been edited by SKY 1809: Jul 30 2009, 08:46 AM |
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Jul 30 2009, 08:47 AM
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burse cl ? hmm ..
Added on July 30, 2009, 8:48 am"CI up or down does not mean every stock is good or bad" haha true sky .. im just hoping i can pick some on sales counter This post has been edited by mo_meng: Jul 30 2009, 08:48 AM |
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Jul 30 2009, 08:49 AM
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QUOTE(mo_meng @ Jul 30 2009, 08:47 AM) burse cl ? hmm .. You can call it a gambling either. Expiring in 06/10.Added on July 30, 2009, 8:48 am"CI up or down does not mean every stock is good or bad" haha true sky .. im just hoping i can pick some on sales counter I call it Hedging. Just my personal judgment. This post has been edited by SKY 1809: Jul 30 2009, 08:51 AM |
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Jul 30 2009, 08:53 AM
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Mega mega sales today...hmm...buy today or tommorow ?
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Jul 30 2009, 08:54 AM
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ya .. tats also my question .. today or tml .. i dont want miss the boat again
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Jul 30 2009, 08:54 AM
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I prefer the term calculated risk...
Bursa-CL is not a bad choice. QUOTE(SKY 1809 @ Jul 30 2009, 08:49 AM) You can call it a gambling either. Expiring in 06/10. I call it Hedging. Just my personal judgment. |
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Jul 30 2009, 08:54 AM
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Not looking so red today..
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Jul 30 2009, 08:55 AM
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US DJ clawing their way back before closing, will it be mega-sale over here? We have Europe whole day green
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Jul 30 2009, 08:57 AM
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New IPO, Handal ~incoming~
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Jul 30 2009, 08:59 AM
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DJ heavy selling on commodity stock...will KNM and Kinsteel see the same action...
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Jul 30 2009, 08:59 AM
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If you aim long term, it is just a matter of earning slightly more or less. For short term, I don't know....
QUOTE(mo_meng @ Jul 30 2009, 08:54 AM) ya .. tats also my question .. today or tml .. i dont want miss the boat again |
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Jul 30 2009, 09:00 AM
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HANDAL - no action..
B/Q @ .90 Active.. +26% This post has been edited by zamans98: Jul 30 2009, 09:02 AM |
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Jul 30 2009, 09:02 AM
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Again, new IPO goreng like no business.
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Jul 30 2009, 09:03 AM
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QUOTE(chyaw @ Jul 30 2009, 09:02 AM) Again, new IPO goreng like no business. jumped in 0.90, cannot even get 1 lot This post has been edited by zamans98: Jul 30 2009, 09:03 AM |
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Jul 30 2009, 09:04 AM
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wait until it cool down first lar if you're planning for long term. for goreng, no comment...
QUOTE(zamans98 @ Jul 30 2009, 09:03 AM) jumped in 0.90, cannot even get 1 lot |
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Jul 30 2009, 09:05 AM
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Waa..somebody really dun wan KNM to drop...split second 20k que there
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Jul 30 2009, 09:05 AM
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Malaysia BOLEH.
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Jul 30 2009, 09:06 AM
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music chair is playing on HANDAL
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Jul 30 2009, 09:06 AM
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where got mega sales??
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Jul 30 2009, 09:06 AM
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Most likely those money belongs to us (EPF)
QUOTE(Ka3tr0 @ Jul 30 2009, 09:05 AM) Waa..somebody really dun wan KNM to drop...split second 20k que there |
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Jul 30 2009, 09:07 AM
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wahlao, this year's IPO really geng la
everyone kena goreng kaw kaw! |
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Jul 30 2009, 09:10 AM
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I have sent out newsletter this morning issuing a call to buy, as i can see 1200 coming due to dow's and spx strength. Please check with me if you don't have it.
As for KNM, yes, i will buy on dips and keep it but for contra play i will watch oil prices. My TP still remains at 1.00 for my remaining shares. |
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Jul 30 2009, 09:10 AM
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QUOTE(harrychoo @ Jul 30 2009, 09:06 AM) where got mega sales?? Mega Sales not coming, its BULL, yesterday was CORRECTION. Everyday up cannot la.why carlsberg up so much? CARLSBERG - up? coz during poor economy, ppl got distress and drink more! |
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Jul 30 2009, 09:11 AM
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QUOTE(harrychoo @ Jul 30 2009, 09:06 AM) where got mega sales?? Taking over Spore Carlswhy carlsberg up so much? Added on July 30, 2009, 9:13 am QUOTE(panasonic88 @ Jul 30 2009, 09:07 AM) wahlao, this year's IPO really geng la Good for Bursa. More listing fees on the way ( Maxis )everyone kena goreng kaw kaw! This post has been edited by SKY 1809: Jul 30 2009, 09:13 AM |
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Jul 30 2009, 09:13 AM
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Here come KNM sharks throwing...trap
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Jul 30 2009, 09:14 AM
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Will China crash or recover?
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Jul 30 2009, 09:14 AM
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Anyone has regional bourse update?
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Jul 30 2009, 09:17 AM
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Adam, I still didn't receive your newsletter...
QUOTE(AdamG1981 @ Jul 30 2009, 09:10 AM) I have sent out newsletter this morning issuing a call to buy, as i can see 1200 coming due to dow's and spx strength. Please check with me if you don't have it. As for KNM, yes, i will buy on dips and keep it but for contra play i will watch oil prices. My TP still remains at 1.00 for my remaining shares. |
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Jul 30 2009, 09:17 AM
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China domestic consumption is pretty strong.
Perhaps making lots of money from gorenging stocks. |
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Jul 30 2009, 09:17 AM
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QUOTE(jasontoh @ Jul 30 2009, 09:14 AM) Anyone has regional bourse update? You mean this? http://finance.yahoo.com/intlindices?e=asia This post has been edited by Medufsaid: Jul 30 2009, 09:18 AM |
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Jul 30 2009, 09:18 AM
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QUOTE(Medufsaid @ Jul 30 2009, 09:17 AM) This is real time or 1 day delay, or 15 mins delay? |
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Jul 30 2009, 09:19 AM
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Morning all
for Futures trader, can trade within 1152pt to 1176pt |
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Jul 30 2009, 09:19 AM
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15 mins delay for HSI, 20 mins for everything
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Jul 30 2009, 09:19 AM
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but not sure about tomorrow's... contract ends tomorrow .....
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Jul 30 2009, 09:21 AM
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KLCI plunging, Big5 support not coming in?
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Jul 30 2009, 09:22 AM
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wah Handal trapped lotsa mice!
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Jul 30 2009, 09:23 AM
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Zaman! Did you get your Handal?
QUOTE(panasonic88 @ Jul 30 2009, 09:22 AM) wah Handal trapped lotsa mice! |
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Jul 30 2009, 09:24 AM
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QUOTE(chyaw @ Jul 30 2009, 09:23 AM) Zaman! Did you get your Handal? He is one of those Mickey Mouse? |
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QUOTE(debbieyss @ Jul 30 2009, 09:19 AM) but not sure about tomorrow's... contract ends tomorrow ..... Windows dressing ?I do not expect a very big movement in Dow from now on. US Government just ban naked short selling ( ending this month ). One of the way to cook up their market. This post has been edited by SKY 1809: Jul 30 2009, 09:26 AM |
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QUOTE(AdamG1981 @ Jul 30 2009, 09:14 AM) Will China crash or recover? The bubble is getting bigger.. it needs to be deflated a bit. Added on July 30, 2009, 9:25 am QUOTE(SKY 1809 @ Jul 30 2009, 09:17 AM) China domestic consumption is pretty strong. That's for sure making money alright.. but not sure if their own internal consumption is strong or not.Perhaps making lots of money from gorenging stocks. Inventory of raw materials certainly overflow every where. Sooner or later, they'll start dumping. Added on July 30, 2009, 9:28 am QUOTE(SKY 1809 @ Jul 30 2009, 09:24 AM) Windows dressing ? That's just a formality. A lot of brokerages do not allow it already. I do not expect a very big movement in Dow from now on. US Government just ban naked short selling ( ending this month ). One of the way to cook up their market. Even some leverage ETFs have also been banned. This post has been edited by danmooncake: Jul 30 2009, 09:29 AM |
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Jul 30 2009, 09:30 AM
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Better watch the steel sector as China going to report PMI soon.
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QUOTE(danmooncake @ Jul 30 2009, 09:24 AM) The bubble is getting bigger.. it needs to be deflated a bit. Better than keeping all in US debts Added on July 30, 2009, 9:25 am That's for sure making money alright.. but not sure if their own internal consumption is strong or now. Inventory of raw materials certainly overflow every where. Sooner or later, they'll start dumping. You would be surprised Chinese consume a lot of commodities and so on. Does not always have to export. Taking over Japan as the 2nd largest GDP soon. |
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Jul 30 2009, 09:31 AM
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QUOTE(SKY 1809 @ Jul 30 2009, 09:24 AM) Windows dressing ? What does naked short selling means? I do not expect a very big movement in Dow from now on. US Government just ban naked short selling ( ending this month ). One of the way to cook up their market. |
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Jul 30 2009, 09:31 AM
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SSEC +46...
Really crazy Please watch the three lions carefully. |
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Jul 30 2009, 09:32 AM
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QUOTE(AdamG1981 @ Jul 30 2009, 09:30 AM) Better watch the steel sector as China going to report PMI soon. me guess you have gotten your Kinsteel yesterday? China up 29  |
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Jul 30 2009, 09:33 AM
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QUOTE(panasonic88 @ Jul 29 2009, 06:32 PM) me guess you have gotten your Kinsteel yesterday? Tak ada. I bought couple of commodity stocks calls. |
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QUOTE(jasontoh @ Jul 30 2009, 09:31 AM) What does naked short selling means? u undress ur self in front of CPU and then click the sell button since now got H1N1, the US gov ban it to protect the ppl from the flu |
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QUOTE(jasontoh @ Jul 30 2009, 09:31 AM) What does naked short selling means? Need to borrow shares to sell short.They just copy from Bursa  |
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What's ssec? I googled and found Structural Steel Educational Council (SSEC)
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Shanghai stock exchange.
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QUOTE(Junior83 @ Jul 30 2009, 09:33 AM) u undress ur self in front of CPU and then click the sell button Bear Talk since now got H1N1, the US gov ban it to protect the ppl from the flu |
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Adam, forecast for the API? This imo will be a major determination if this bull will survive to continue the run..
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now market is waitng HSI and SHANGHAI direction
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Jul 30 2009, 09:50 AM
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QUOTE(Junior83 @ Jul 30 2009, 09:46 AM) now market is waitng HSI and SHANGHAI direction Investors generally got no direction.So have to look for one to lead them. In future maybe we have to look at Indo share market for direction. |
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Jul 30 2009, 09:55 AM
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HSI Preopening
current="20150.26" change="+14.76" percent="+0.07" Looks like no direction for now This post has been edited by Medufsaid: Jul 30 2009, 09:56 AM |
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Jul 30 2009, 09:57 AM
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QUOTE(SKY 1809 @ Jul 30 2009, 09:34 AM) Need to borrow shares to sell short. No lah.. regulated short selling means need to borrow to sell short.. must have the uptick rule.They just copy from Bursa Naked short selling means NO NEED to borrow, simply press button and SELL SELL SELL, causing the price to plummet like crazy. Aka. Bear Raid strategy.. Look at happened to Lehman Brothers last year. |
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Jul 30 2009, 10:01 AM
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QUOTE(danmooncake @ Jul 30 2009, 09:57 AM) No lah.. regulated short selling means need to borrow to sell short.. must have the uptick rule. I was saying " banning the naked short selling " is just like the one we have in Bursa, in layman term.Naked short selling means NO NEED to borrow, simply press button and SELL SELL SELL, causing the price to plummet like crazy. Aka. Bear Raid strategy.. Look at happened to Lehman Brothers last year. We call sharks, and you mean them to be Market Makers , a more professional way. This post has been edited by SKY 1809: Jul 30 2009, 10:02 AM |
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Jul 30 2009, 10:01 AM
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QUOTE(danmooncake @ Jul 30 2009, 09:57 AM) No lah.. regulated short selling means need to borrow to sell short.. must have the uptick rule. agree, it cause Lehman to caught H1N1 and die jo Naked short selling means NO NEED to borrow, simply press button and SELL SELL SELL, causing the price to plummet like crazy. Aka. Bear Raid strategy.. Look at happened to Lehman Brothers last year. |
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Jul 30 2009, 10:01 AM
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Naz, do you mean mortgage API?
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Jul 30 2009, 10:03 AM
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QUOTE(AdamG1981 @ Jul 30 2009, 10:01 AM) Naz, do you mean mortgage API? Yeah that's the one out from China is it? |
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Jul 30 2009, 10:03 AM
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KLCI -10pts now
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Jul 30 2009, 10:05 AM
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QUOTE(jasontoh @ Jul 30 2009, 10:03 AM) KLCI -10pts now Our Future Q should be happy. |
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Jul 30 2009, 10:05 AM
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QUOTE(jasontoh @ Jul 30 2009, 10:03 AM) KLCI -10pts now time to buy soon! |
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Jul 30 2009, 10:06 AM
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QUOTE(omores @ Jul 30 2009, 10:05 AM) time to buy soon! |
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Jul 30 2009, 10:12 AM
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QUOTE(SKY 1809 @ Jul 29 2009, 07:05 PM) Our Future Q should be happy. Buy on dips.. |
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Jul 30 2009, 10:12 AM
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very dip already
bought at 1160pt....if not going down anymore..... |
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Jul 30 2009, 10:14 AM
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QUOTE(jasontoh @ Jul 30 2009, 10:06 AM) You dun have to work? Hehehehe. Ssssssshhhhh. Wink.I saw red yesterday so I'm back! |
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Jul 30 2009, 10:14 AM
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QUOTE(omores @ Jul 30 2009, 10:05 AM) time to buy soon! |
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Jul 30 2009, 10:14 AM
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oh fark. the klci is rebounding, and my bonus cheque is still pending 1 day float. dammit.
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Jul 30 2009, 10:16 AM
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Anyone got News on Time???
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Jul 30 2009, 10:16 AM
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Omores, you didnt receive my MSN MSGS?
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Jul 30 2009, 10:21 AM
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Wow, so fast turning green.
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Jul 30 2009, 10:24 AM
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QUOTE(chyaw @ Jul 30 2009, 10:21 AM) Wow, so fast turning green. It is flexible one, Pasar Malam Index |
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Jul 30 2009, 10:24 AM
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Wince! Your Ezra doing very well in STI! Still holding?
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Jul 30 2009, 10:28 AM
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so much blues today, weather is gloomy, market is slow, this forum also like slow.....
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Jul 30 2009, 10:34 AM
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DJ future +28..hmm
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Jul 30 2009, 10:37 AM
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QUOTE(naz_b_85 @ Jul 30 2009, 10:14 AM) Where'd you come from? I'm sneaking now. Added on July 30, 2009, 10:38 am QUOTE(AdamG1981 @ Jul 30 2009, 10:16 AM) Omores, you didnt receive my MSN MSGS? Oh my MSN is not on oso....Oh right, my laptop at home! Wait let me turn on my msn in my office laptoppie ya. This post has been edited by omores: Jul 30 2009, 10:38 AM |
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Jul 30 2009, 10:39 AM
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Omores! Time for you to buy for long term jor!
Alam! QUOTE(omores @ Jul 30 2009, 10:37 AM) I'm sneaking now. Added on July 30, 2009, 10:38 am Oh my MSN is not on oso.... Oh right, my laptop at home! Wait let me turn on my msn in my office laptoppie ya. |
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Jul 30 2009, 10:43 AM
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QUOTE(omores @ Jul 30 2009, 10:37 AM) I'm sneaking now. Buy a small 7" Asus netbook for rm 699 ( at Tesco ) , can trade one if with 3G modem or WIFI.Added on July 30, 2009, 10:38 am Oh my MSN is not on oso.... Oh right, my laptop at home! Wait let me turn on my msn in my office laptoppie ya. Can put in your handbag also. This post has been edited by SKY 1809: Jul 30 2009, 10:44 AM |
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Jul 30 2009, 10:45 AM
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or this is a trap?
Added on July 30, 2009, 10:46 amoo sky .. netbook so cheap .. i din know also This post has been edited by mo_meng: Jul 30 2009, 10:46 AM |
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Jul 30 2009, 10:50 AM
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QUOTE(mo_meng @ Jul 30 2009, 10:45 AM) or this is a trap? This one is phased out model, only 2gb ssd hardidsk , need to buy sd card if need more space.Added on July 30, 2009, 10:46 amoo sky .. netbook so cheap .. i din know also But ideal fro stock trading. Can trade at Mamak stalls also. I have 2 netbooks for internet use. This post has been edited by SKY 1809: Jul 30 2009, 10:52 AM |
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Jul 30 2009, 10:52 AM
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QUOTE(SKY 1809 @ Jul 30 2009, 10:50 AM) This one is phased out model, only 2gb ssd hardidsk , need to buy sd card if need more space. So small, not ergo frenlyBut ideal fro stock trading. Can trade at Mamak stalls also. |
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Jul 30 2009, 10:53 AM
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SKY! Did you notice Pirate ship got not much selling q? I think it will shoot up in soon. Can use to play play contra.
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Jul 30 2009, 10:53 AM
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QUOTE(jasontoh @ Jul 30 2009, 10:52 AM) So small, not ergo frenly I do not think you need a 17" one just to trade shares. Viper should know what I mean. This post has been edited by SKY 1809: Jul 30 2009, 10:54 AM |
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Jul 30 2009, 10:55 AM
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QUOTE(SKY 1809 @ Jul 30 2009, 10:53 AM) I do not think you need a 17" one just to trade shares. 7" is just too small, I mean the KBViper should know what I mean. |
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Jul 30 2009, 10:56 AM
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QUOTE(chyaw @ Jul 30 2009, 10:53 AM) SKY! Did you notice Pirate ship got not much selling q? I think it will shoot up in soon. Can use to play play contra. Yes You can, need to hold just in case the market turns against you.This post has been edited by SKY 1809: Jul 30 2009, 10:57 AM |
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Jul 30 2009, 10:56 AM
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Sealink is standing tough, looks like Uncle Sam is really influencial..
very slim chance my order can be matched.. |
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Jul 30 2009, 10:57 AM
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QUOTE(SKY 1809 @ Jul 30 2009, 10:53 AM) I do not think you need a 17" one just to trade shares. 7" a bit small leh. The bigger netbook would be ideal - the 9" or 10" ones..... Viper should know what I mean. Anything interesting happening today? Why why why no mega sale yet?! |
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Jul 30 2009, 10:58 AM
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I already got enough XQ jor. Just curious whether you're interested to buy for play play
QUOTE(SKY 1809 @ Jul 30 2009, 10:56 AM) Yes You can, need to hold just in case the market turns against you. |
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Jul 30 2009, 10:59 AM
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QUOTE(jasontoh @ Jul 30 2009, 10:55 AM) 7" is just too small, I mean the KB Ram is 512mb with , max 1gb cost about rm 50 , pretty good for XP with Java and stock trading program.By the way i am not a computer salesman. Added on July 30, 2009, 11:02 am QUOTE(chyaw @ Jul 30 2009, 10:58 AM) I already got enough XQ jor. Just curious whether you're interested to buy for play play I have a bit , 20,000 shares only. Sold 10,000 shares 2 days ago. This post has been edited by SKY 1809: Jul 30 2009, 11:02 AM |
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hi guys.
a bit unexpected to see green. not gonna touch any stocks today after remembering what happened to my GSB. |
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Jul 30 2009, 11:06 AM
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QUOTE(SKY 1809 @ Jul 30 2009, 10:59 AM) I have a bit , 20,000 shares only. Sold at a profit? What's your ABP? I thinking of getting some for gorenging..... Sold 10,000 shares 2 days ago. |
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Jul 30 2009, 11:07 AM
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QUOTE(kmarc @ Jul 30 2009, 10:57 AM) 7" a bit small leh. The bigger netbook would be ideal - the 9" or 10" ones..... I have one of 10" and one of 9" netbook. Anything interesting happening today? Why why why no mega sale yet?! Tempting to buy one with 7". Maybe can monitor share market while in the toilet. |
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Jul 30 2009, 11:08 AM
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In my Jupiter trading console, the candlestick for KLCI on July 28 is missing. Anybody else seeing the same thing on other platforms?
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Jul 30 2009, 11:09 AM
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eii 9 / 10 inch also can monitor ma in toilet
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Jul 30 2009, 11:09 AM
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QUOTE(SKY 1809 @ Jul 30 2009, 11:07 AM) I have one of 10" and one of 9" netbook. Nice. Thinking of getting one too....... really convenient to bring anywhere and everywhere....Tempting to buy one with 7". Maybe can monitor share market while in the toilet. |
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Jul 30 2009, 11:14 AM
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QUOTE(kmarc @ Jul 30 2009, 11:09 AM) Nice. Thinking of getting one too....... really convenient to bring anywhere and everywhere.... Whenever you are out there, you have to carry it along even to the toilet.That is the problem , or the advantage is of smaller size. |
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Jul 30 2009, 11:24 AM
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STOCK EXCHANGE is a boring topic....
Lets talk about COMPUTERS!!!! |
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Jul 30 2009, 11:27 AM
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QUOTE(chyaw @ Jul 30 2009, 10:24 AM) Wince! Your Ezra doing very well in STI! Still holding? Ya yesterday cheong till so high until over my TP so i lock the profit first and planning to buy back at 1.37-1.38 then keep again ... |
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Jul 30 2009, 11:28 AM
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QUOTE(SKY 1809 @ Jul 30 2009, 09:30 AM) You would be surprised Chinese consume a lot of commodities and so on. If one has been in China, you can see there are lot of wastage and non-efficient of utilisation even on foods and restaurant front, don't know how much foods is wasted daily, just simply throw away. Does not always have to export. Taking over Japan as the 2nd largest GDP soon. Go to eat ordinary lunch or dinner for a table of 10, surely come out at least 8-10 dishes, where can people finish it all the time. There got some culture, if the clients finish the dishes means the host is kedekut (seem as no face) aka the clients having not enough, so must have plenty of foods being left, only show generousity. Just my experience, no offence. |
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Jul 30 2009, 11:31 AM
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Jul 30 2009, 11:33 AM
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QUOTE(Neon_ @ Jul 30 2009, 11:24 AM) STOCK EXCHANGE is a boring topic.... Will Bursa allowed high-frequency trading be used?Lets talk about COMPUTERS!!!! |
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Jul 30 2009, 11:33 AM
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Now everyone is watching whether China is bubble in making or just a correction.
Loan rate increase previously months has been shooting to the roof which indicated too hot for financial market to handle which this issue has been raised a few week ago or so. China market going down right now. |
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Jul 30 2009, 11:36 AM
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QUOTE(cherroy @ Jul 30 2009, 11:28 AM) If one has been in China, you can see there are lot of wastage and non-efficient of utilisation even on foods and restaurant front, don't know how much foods is wasted daily, just simply throw away. Ya, my brother in law just back from China says the same thing.Go to eat ordinary lunch or dinner for a table of 10, surely come out at least 8-10 dishes, where can people finish it all the time. There got some culture, if the clients finish the dishes means the host is kedekut (seem as no face) aka the clients having not enough, so must have plenty of foods being left, only show generousity. Just my experience, no offence. Many years back , these people lining up waiting for some gifts to be handed out. Now they bring him to the Restaurants few times a week for dinners. Their SME still doing OK with local consumptions, need to import labour from Far North. This post has been edited by SKY 1809: Jul 30 2009, 11:37 AM |
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Jul 30 2009, 11:36 AM
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STI back to red sea jor...
My KLCI counters also mostly red ... QUOTE(cherroy @ Jul 30 2009, 11:33 AM) Now everyone is watching whether China is bubble in making or just a correction. Loan rate increase previously months has been shooting to the roof which indicated too hot for financial market to handle which this issue has been raised a few week ago or so. China market going down right now. |
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Jul 30 2009, 11:39 AM
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China is a bubble in the making already. Their govt is very worry that people are borrowing cheap money
to buy speculative stocks instead of "investing" or building business or infrastructure. China is the next America (becoming spenders). America is the next China (becoming savers). |
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Jul 30 2009, 11:41 AM
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QUOTE(cherroy @ Jul 30 2009, 11:33 AM) Now everyone is watching whether China is bubble in making or just a correction. Sign of stimulus plan is working , now bubbling ?Loan rate increase previously months has been shooting to the roof which indicated too hot for financial market to handle which this issue has been raised a few week ago or so. China market going down right now. US stimulus plan is just like throwing money into a big sink hole. |
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Jul 30 2009, 11:43 AM
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QUOTE(danmooncake @ Jul 30 2009, 11:39 AM) China is a bubble in the making already. Their govt is very worry that people are borrowing cheap money i wonder where all the money goes at the end when they lost the money in stock market..to buy speculative stocks instead of "investing" or building business or infrastructure. China is the next America (becoming spenders). America is the next China (becoming savers). end up in Foreign MM hands ? |
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Jul 30 2009, 11:43 AM
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wow this thread is as slow as the market right now.
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Jul 30 2009, 11:47 AM
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QUOTE(danmooncake @ Jul 30 2009, 11:39 AM) China is a bubble in the making already. Their govt is very worry that people are borrowing cheap money The markets this year are like moving fromto buy speculative stocks instead of "investing" or building business or infrastructure. China is the next America (becoming spenders). America is the next China (becoming savers). Fear to Hope and back to Hope to Fear and again Fear to Hope. Always right at the right timing . This post has been edited by SKY 1809: Jul 30 2009, 11:48 AM |
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Jul 30 2009, 11:51 AM
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QUOTE(SKY 1809 @ Jul 30 2009, 11:47 AM) The markets this year are like moving from This makes solid stocks which survives valuable from time to time Fear to Hope and back to Hope to Fear and again Fear to Hope. Always right at the right timing . |
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Jul 30 2009, 11:58 AM
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QUOTE(SKY 1809 @ Jul 30 2009, 11:41 AM) Sign of stimulus plan is working , now bubbling ? Believe it or not.. only 25% of the US Stimulus money that was allocated US stimulus plan is just like throwing money into a big sink hole. is spent. US is moving very slowly. China spent already 75% of its 585 billion. Therefore, looks like China economy is rebounding so fast, so hot.. and yet.. very bubbly and dangerous. |
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Jul 30 2009, 12:03 PM
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QUOTE(danmooncake @ Jul 30 2009, 11:58 AM) Believe it or not.. only 25% of the US Stimulus money that was allocated that's right. if one looks at the rate the A index has been going up. you'd be shocked.is spent. US is moving very slowly. China spent already 75% of its 585 billion. Therefore, looks like China economy is rebounding so fast, so hot.. and yet.. very bubbly and dangerous. |
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Jul 30 2009, 12:03 PM
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QUOTE(teehk_tee @ Jul 30 2009, 12:03 PM) that's right. if one looks at the rate the A index has been going up. you'd be shocked. A Index? |
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QUOTE(danmooncake @ Jul 30 2009, 11:58 AM) Believe it or not.. only 25% of the US Stimulus money that was allocated The end of China economy if they behave like Japan, waiting to be murdered by Fear.is spent. US is moving very slowly. China spent already 75% of its 585 billion. Therefore, looks like China economy is rebounding so fast, so hot.. and yet.. very bubbly and dangerous. Never be out of recession. |
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Jul 30 2009, 12:11 PM
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QUOTE(jasontoh @ Jul 30 2009, 12:03 PM) A Index? yeah Shanghai A-Shares Index. as well as the Shenzhen Composite if you're interested inthe secondary market local B shares. |
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Jul 30 2009, 12:19 PM
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QUOTE(teehk_tee @ Jul 30 2009, 12:11 PM) yeah Shanghai A-Shares Index. as well as the Shenzhen Composite if you're interested inthe secondary market local B shares. That one is the legalised Casino in China. |
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To much vi- a - gra can be bad...
i guess what US is doing is fairly control stimulus compared to what china is trying to do to achievement instant erection = mati pucuk? This post has been edited by aurora97: Jul 30 2009, 12:23 PM |
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QUOTE(SKY 1809 @ Jul 30 2009, 12:19 PM) That one is the legalised Casino in China. so very true. |
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Jul 30 2009, 12:26 PM
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QUOTE(aurora97 @ Jul 30 2009, 12:20 PM) To much vi- a - gra can be bad... You mean too much money in the system plus too many unemploymenti guess what US is doing is fairly control stimulus compared to what china is trying to do to achievement instant erection = mati pucuk? Both are equally good in US ? |
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QUOTE(SKY 1809 @ Jul 30 2009, 12:19 PM) That one is the legalised Casino in China. China is a nation of gamblers. |
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simplesmile, how is your trade?
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Jul 30 2009, 12:31 PM
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QUOTE(SKY 1809 @ Jul 30 2009, 12:26 PM) You mean too much money in the system plus too many unemployment Well can't bite both ends of the pie at the same time, can you?Both are equally good in US ? there so many issues yet to be ironed out.. but pumping the system full of money will only get the market excited for a while, what if the stimulus money runs out, go bak to the ppl and rob them of more monies? i think its false expectations of a "recovery", when in fact it all came from printed monies. i think we all know fairly well what happened duing the great depression... "in the sense everyone was making money, expectation was high, and the market seems like it would never crash" - hence the term false expectations. When Banks are tightening credit, the destruction of the only other source of raising capital i.e. StockMarket would ultimately be armegeddon. The situation now is more like the devil and the deep blue sea. personally i think China is doing it wrong. its a painful recovery, ppl may have to write in a couple of million times before they get a job... but one thing is for sure, a crash can happen overnight but a cure will take years. This post has been edited by aurora97: Jul 30 2009, 12:35 PM |
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Watch UK HPI (housing prices) due out at 2. If better than expected, dow futures and FTSE might rally.
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QUOTE(aurora97 @ Jul 30 2009, 12:31 PM) Well can't bite both ends of the pie at the same time, can you? Ya, I agreethere so many issues yet to be ironed out.. but pumping the system full of money will only get the market excited for a while, what if the stimulus money runs out, go bak to the ppl and rob them of more monies? i think its false expectations of a "recovery", when in fact it all came from printed monies. i think we all know fairly well what happened duing the great depression... When Banks are tightening credit, the destruction of the only other source of raising capital i.e. StockMarket would ultimately be armegeddon. The situation now is more like the devil and the deep blue sea. personally i think China is doing it wrong. The world is very short of a perfect economic theory. |
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QUOTE(chyaw @ Jul 30 2009, 09:23 AM) Zaman! Did you get your Handal? QUOTE(jasontoh @ Jul 30 2009, 09:24 AM) He is one of those Mickey Mouse? nope. I Q @ 0.900. Never mind, sooner or later will DROP. I think new IPO got few days Vi@gra before it settled down. |
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QUOTE(zamans98 @ Jul 30 2009, 12:39 PM) nope. I Q @ 0.900. Never mind, sooner or later will DROP. I think new IPO got few days Vi@gra before it settled down. Zaman, are you still hold Gamuda. High 3.30 today. I sold 3.12 ytd 60 lots What news they have that you know? |
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Jul 30 2009, 01:32 PM
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QUOTE(htt @ Jul 30 2009, 11:31 AM) thx for the link.need to learn on how to evaluate company by reading IPO |
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Jul 30 2009, 02:02 PM
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All markets back to green. Just waiting for HSI and klci to open only.
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Jul 30 2009, 02:05 PM
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My StraitAsia from STI fly high high today
QUOTE(Medufsaid @ Jul 30 2009, 02:02 PM) All markets back to green. Just waiting for HSI and klci to open only. |
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Jul 30 2009, 02:05 PM
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QUOTE(mmusang @ Jul 30 2009, 01:32 PM) thx for the link. Newly IPO especially smaller company is very difficult to evaluate. Little information can be obtained, also when they want to do IPO time, generally, they will try out the best to 'make up' as good as its look. need to learn on how to evaluate company by reading IPO Just like you meet a gal, even though you have her details, you never know her (mood, real behaviour) only after some time. |
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Jul 30 2009, 02:09 PM
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QUOTE(protonw @ Jul 30 2009, 12:54 PM) Zaman, are you still hold Gamuda. High 3.30 today. I sold 3.12 ytd 60 lots Nope, sold off and hop on with ALAM. What news they have that you know? Potential/Rumours that they are giving special dividend. Plus Vietnam project going to revive. |
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Jul 30 2009, 02:10 PM
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Cherroy, I found that this IPO (Multi Sport) somehow quite hard to read as compared to Handal or Samchem... Maybe I"m not in reading mood today...
QUOTE(cherroy @ Jul 30 2009, 02:05 PM) Newly IPO especially smaller company is very difficult to evaluate. Little information can be obtained, also when they want to do IPO time, generally, they will try out the best to 'make up' as good as its look. Just like you meet a gal, even though you have her details, you never know her (mood, real behaviour) only after some time. |
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Jul 30 2009, 02:18 PM
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Dow futures testing resistance, all shorts COVER YOUR POSITION
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Jul 30 2009, 02:20 PM
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many country change to GREEN already, will KLCI turn GREEN also?
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Jul 30 2009, 02:21 PM
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Q to buy lion cor, 0.485, tp 0.51
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Jul 30 2009, 02:36 PM
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QUOTE(cherroy @ Jul 30 2009, 02:05 PM) Newly IPO especially smaller company is very difficult to evaluate. Little information can be obtained, also when they want to do IPO time, generally, they will try out the best to 'make up' as good as its look. yep, im actually aware of that. Just like you meet a gal, even though you have her details, you never know her (mood, real behaviour) only after some time. and creative accounting/writing.other than internet, ipo is the closest info related to company. |
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Jul 30 2009, 02:50 PM
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DJ future 50+ @@
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Jul 30 2009, 02:59 PM
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This thread very slow now. But CI is moving ?
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Jul 30 2009, 03:00 PM
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QUOTE(cute_boboi @ Jul 30 2009, 02:59 PM) This thread very slow now. But CI is moving ? Some got slaughtered yesterday or this morning?? |
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Jul 30 2009, 03:03 PM
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wah stocks continue to cheong again...
people are getting numb with the monthly unemployment rate ? |
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Jul 30 2009, 03:04 PM
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Handal is truly Handal-nya
1.050 now zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz |
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Jul 30 2009, 03:04 PM
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CI is moving in red zone
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Jul 30 2009, 03:05 PM
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Your Ezra say bye bye to you jor!
My StraitAsia hit highest level since I bought QUOTE(zWinceZz @ Jul 30 2009, 03:03 PM) wah stocks continue to cheong again... people are getting numb with the monthly unemployment rate ? |
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Jul 30 2009, 03:07 PM
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lol i don't even care whether CI is red or green. CI red but 2nd/3rd tier stocks all unchnged/green.
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Jul 30 2009, 03:08 PM
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Who cares? As long as our holding are green, and those that we can to purchase are red, we'll be very happy.
Anyway, I got more green than red counters now. QUOTE(debbieyss @ Jul 30 2009, 03:04 PM) CI is moving in red zone |
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Jul 30 2009, 03:11 PM
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QUOTE(chyaw @ Jul 30 2009, 03:08 PM) Who cares? As long as our holding are green, and those that we can to purchase are red, we'll be very happy. true... the stocks are green and CI red, awesome awesome Anyway, I got more green than red counters now. but i like CI to be red |
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Jul 30 2009, 03:11 PM
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QUOTE(chyaw @ Jul 30 2009, 03:05 PM) Your Ezra say bye bye to you jor! Ya, yesterday Ezra got people keep buying at 1.400 in 200, 500, 300 lots... My StraitAsia hit highest level since I bought Your StraitsAsia cheong so fierce today, any good news ar?... |
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Jul 30 2009, 03:12 PM
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QUOTE(debbieyss @ Jul 30 2009, 03:11 PM) true... the stocks are green and CI red, awesome awesome debbie, still shorting your July contract ah? but i like CI to be red |
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Jul 30 2009, 03:13 PM
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QUOTE(teehk_tee @ Jul 30 2009, 03:12 PM) debbie, still shorting your July contract ah? bought at 1160pt already |
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Jul 30 2009, 03:14 PM
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Next week most likely will announce quarterly results.
SGX also should be around next week. QUOTE(zWinceZz @ Jul 30 2009, 03:11 PM) Ya, yesterday Ezra got people keep buying at 1.400 in 200, 500, 300 lots... Your StraitsAsia cheong so fierce today, any good news ar?... |
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Jul 30 2009, 03:14 PM
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aiya, KNM didn't fall to my expected 82/83 sens today so i can top up. now 88 sens.
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Jul 30 2009, 03:20 PM
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market is digest the sell down and ppl start to accumulate at low. the market still in uptrend cycle.
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Jul 30 2009, 03:20 PM
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Handal 1.10
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Jul 30 2009, 03:22 PM
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QUOTE(cute_boboi @ Jul 30 2009, 03:20 PM) Handal 1.10 memang handal |
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Jul 30 2009, 03:23 PM
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QUOTE(chyaw @ Jul 30 2009, 03:14 PM) Next week most likely will announce quarterly results. OCBC, Comfort delgo also announcing on 3rd Aug...SGX also should be around next week. Planning to accumulate SIA Eng and NOL once my payment through GIRO approved. |
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Jul 30 2009, 03:26 PM
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NOL won't be doing well this year in terms of business... Price wise, I didn't follow...
QUOTE(zWinceZz @ Jul 30 2009, 03:23 PM) OCBC, Comfort delgo also announcing on 3rd Aug... Planning to accumulate SIA Eng and NOL once my payment through GIRO approved. |
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Jul 30 2009, 03:26 PM
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QUOTE(debbieyss @ Jul 30 2009, 03:13 PM) bought at 1160pt already You hope it goes to 1170? |
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Jul 30 2009, 03:27 PM
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QUOTE(chyaw @ Jul 30 2009, 03:08 PM) Who cares? As long as our holding are green, and those that we can to purchase are red, we'll be very happy. wat are ur green counters? plz share.... Anyway, I got more green than red counters now. |
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Jul 30 2009, 03:29 PM
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I got 20+ counters... lazy to write
QUOTE(Neon_ @ Jul 30 2009, 03:27 PM) wat are ur green counters? plz share.... |
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Jul 30 2009, 03:29 PM
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QUOTE(peinsama @ Jul 30 2009, 03:26 PM) You hope it goes to 1170? that's the lowest i can buyof course can buy 1 more contract but i just want to earn phone bill or are you tring to say it won't rise up to 1170pt by this week? This post has been edited by debbieyss: Jul 30 2009, 03:31 PM |
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Jul 30 2009, 03:30 PM
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QUOTE(chyaw @ Jul 30 2009, 03:26 PM) NOL won't be doing well this year in terms of business... Price wise, I didn't follow... ya...both of the stocks are not doing well this year that's why the price keep dropping...but i think they are good for long term as they giving about 5-6% of dividends each year.... |
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Jul 30 2009, 03:31 PM
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HANDAL = wahhhhhh..
+48%. Really goreng up.. |
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Jul 30 2009, 03:34 PM
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QUOTE(debbieyss @ Jul 30 2009, 03:29 PM) that's the lowest i can buy At this stage FKLi always in tandem with the FBM KLCI, so still got hope. But when you bought your long position at 1160? Cause the highest it did went to 1170.5. of course can buy 1 more contract but i just want to earn phone bill or are you tring to say it won't rise up to 1170pt by this week? Your phone bill very expensive is it? Btw, tomorrow final day for FKLI July. Just take a note ok. Actually many are queuing & trading for August contract. This post has been edited by peinsama: Jul 30 2009, 03:37 PM |
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Jul 30 2009, 03:40 PM
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QUOTE(peinsama @ Jul 30 2009, 03:34 PM) At this stage FKLi always in tandem with the FBM KLCI, so still got hope. But when you bought your long position at 1160? Cause the highest it did went to 1170.5. i had already sold off all contract before the earthquake yesterdayYour phone bill very expensive is it? so just managed to buy after it dropped from 1170pt this morning my phone bill very expensive this month cos my modem smitted by lightning so having no modem to use for 2 weeks, i used my phone to go online |
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Jul 30 2009, 03:42 PM
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QUOTE(debbieyss @ Jul 30 2009, 03:40 PM) i had already sold off all contract before the earthquake yesterday You can request to activate the 1-mth unlimited data plan. Or there are daily unlimited data plan packages from local telcos.so just managed to buy after it dropped from 1170pt this morning my phone bill very expensive this month cos my modem smitted by lightning so having no modem to use for 2 weeks, i used my phone to go online |
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Jul 30 2009, 03:44 PM
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QUOTE(cute_boboi @ Jul 30 2009, 03:42 PM) You can request to activate the 1-mth unlimited data plan. Or there are daily unlimited data plan packages from local telcos. other telcos are so so only... |
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Jul 30 2009, 03:47 PM
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QUOTE(debbieyss @ Jul 30 2009, 03:40 PM) i had already sold off all contract before the earthquake yesterday alamak. Ok ok. Hopefully, you will do well in August contract. so just managed to buy after it dropped from 1170pt this morning QUOTE my phone bill very expensive this month cos my modem smitted by lightning so having no modem to use for 2 weeks, i used my phone to go online Your modem kena smite, my heater kena smite. |
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Jul 30 2009, 03:52 PM
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Future traders must have at least 2 modems to trade.
Also needs 3G one to back up. |
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Jul 30 2009, 03:54 PM
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why need so many modems?
call up reminser will do..somemore Bursa closed when i reached home |
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Jul 30 2009, 03:55 PM
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QUOTE(debbieyss @ Jul 30 2009, 03:54 PM) why need so many modems? Professional call up reminser will do..somemore Bursa closed when i reached home |
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Jul 30 2009, 03:57 PM
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Debbie, hopefully can see 70 by today
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Jul 30 2009, 04:04 PM
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aaaaaaaaaaahhh. HANDAL semakin handal.
Sore eyes seeing. Crazy.. |
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Jul 30 2009, 04:07 PM
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QUOTE(zamans98 @ Jul 30 2009, 04:04 PM) aaaaaaaaaaahhh. HANDAL semakin handal. memang handal sial.Sore eyes seeing. Crazy.. even better than samchem. on another note, TA's inching up! |
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Jul 30 2009, 04:07 PM
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Holy.. handal +61%
 tomorrow cont to sky rocket?? |
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Jul 30 2009, 04:10 PM
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i think handal might follow samchem's path.
tomorrow drop 5-8%. just to confirm, UMAs and limit ups don't apply to IPOs on the first 2 days of trading is it? |
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Jul 30 2009, 04:22 PM
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Some ppl rush to buy Axreit before ex date...
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Jul 30 2009, 04:22 PM
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Adam, chances to go 1170 is very rare....
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Jul 30 2009, 04:24 PM
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QUOTE(teehk_tee @ Jul 30 2009, 04:10 PM) i think handal might follow samchem's path. First day of trading the limit up degree is much higher, not 30%, still got limit but something like 200% is allowed, sorry forgot the exact figure liao. Anyone can correct it?tomorrow drop 5-8%. just to confirm, UMAs and limit ups don't apply to IPOs on the first 2 days of trading is it? |
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Jul 30 2009, 04:28 PM
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QUOTE(chyaw @ Jul 30 2009, 04:22 PM) Some ppl rush to buy Axreit before ex date... Axreit is moving ...confused whats the price now?!my interface is showing buy 1.78 sell 1.83 last 1.84 up 6c VOL 14K |
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Jul 30 2009, 04:28 PM
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QUOTE(cherroy @ Jul 30 2009, 04:24 PM) First day of trading the limit up degree is much higher, not 30%, still got limit but something like 200% is allowed, sorry forgot the exact figure liao. Anyone can correct it? 400% if the reference price is above or equal to 15 cents |
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Jul 30 2009, 04:31 PM
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Your platform data is correct. Some ppl push to 1.84, then later got ppl q sell at 1.83.
QUOTE(aurora97 @ Jul 30 2009, 04:28 PM) Axreit is moving ...confused whats the price now?! my interface is showing buy 1.78 sell 1.83 last 1.84 up 6c VOL 14K |
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Jul 30 2009, 04:32 PM
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QUOTE(cherroy @ Jul 30 2009, 04:24 PM) First day of trading the limit up degree is much higher, not 30%, still got limit but something like 200% is allowed, sorry forgot the exact figure liao. Anyone can correct it? Chapter Seven 3rd page.Attached File(s) 
Chap_7_Trading.pdf ( 188.42k )
Number of downloads: 20 |
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Jul 30 2009, 04:33 PM
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QUOTE(aurora97 @ Jul 30 2009, 04:28 PM) Axreit is moving ...confused whats the price now?! Yes, correct.my interface is showing buy 1.78 sell 1.83 last 1.84 up 6c VOL 14K There are not buyers and sellers in between 1.78 - 1.82. So it depended who want to jump q. |
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Jul 30 2009, 04:33 PM
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QUOTE(chyaw @ Jul 30 2009, 04:31 PM) Your platform data is correct. Some ppl push to 1.84, then later got ppl q sell at 1.83. thanks for the conformation i thought my interface gone hey-wire |
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Jul 30 2009, 04:35 PM
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wahlao, Handal.... this morning thought was a mice trap, mana zai
mice grow BIG become LION! |
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Jul 30 2009, 04:35 PM
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QUOTE(Junior83 @ Jul 30 2009, 04:07 PM) Holy.. handal +61% Most HK IPO can achieve 60%. up. We have only one so far. tomorrow cont to sky rocket?? |
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Jul 30 2009, 04:36 PM
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That's why can not jump into conclusion so fast.
QUOTE(panasonic88 @ Jul 30 2009, 04:35 PM) wahlao, Handal.... this morning thought was a mice trap, mana zai mice grow BIG become LION! |
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Jul 30 2009, 04:37 PM
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QUOTE(panasonic88 @ Jul 30 2009, 04:35 PM) wahlao, Handal.... this morning thought was a mice trap, mana zai The stock has a nice name or better fengshui probably. mice grow BIG become LION! |
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Jul 30 2009, 04:38 PM
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QUOTE(panasonic88 @ Jul 30 2009, 04:35 PM) wahlao, Handal.... this morning thought was a mice trap, mana zai Become Mighty Mousemice grow BIG become LION! |
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Jul 30 2009, 04:38 PM
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Let's see tomorrow's result for Handal
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Jul 30 2009, 04:41 PM
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QUOTE(peinsama @ Jul 30 2009, 04:38 PM) Let's see tomorrow's result for Handal Handal would bring good businiss to Bursa |
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Jul 30 2009, 04:43 PM
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More IPO, more business for Bursa!
QUOTE(SKY 1809 @ Jul 30 2009, 04:41 PM) Handal would bring good businiss to Bursa |
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Jul 30 2009, 04:44 PM
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QUOTE(SKY 1809 @ Jul 30 2009, 04:41 PM) Handal would bring good businiss to Bursa The technical daily chart for Handal resources very cantik man. Show middle finger to me. I felt intimidated just now. |
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Jul 30 2009, 04:45 PM
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Goreng syndicate tends to like new stock as they are still clean, so very easy to goreng especially on the first day as there are no people trap at higher price before, so little selling pressure can be expected and easy push the price up.
Unlike some old name goreng stock, once reach certain price (previously most people bought one), you can see massive selling force coming out. |
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Jul 30 2009, 04:53 PM
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QUOTE(chyaw @ Jul 30 2009, 04:43 PM) More IPO, more business for Bursa! That was I say why we need more market makers, not stabilisers ( like the case of XQ ). |
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Jul 30 2009, 04:56 PM
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Bursa try to be different. Will it close red as is red whole day d. Regional all Green......  |
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Jul 30 2009, 04:57 PM
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well, CI needs 4 more points to shoot up to the sett price yesterday. Perhaps all of you unite together and save the market
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Jul 30 2009, 04:58 PM
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QUOTE(debbieyss @ Jul 30 2009, 04:57 PM) well, CI needs 4 more points to shoot up to the sett price yesterday. Perhaps all of you unite together and save the market We are only trying to save you from losing. |
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Jul 30 2009, 05:00 PM
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QUOTE(SKY 1809 @ Jul 30 2009, 04:58 PM) We are only trying to save you from losing. since when i make you all worry so much.... |
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Jul 30 2009, 05:02 PM
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Let us buy 1 lot Commerz, Sime, Tenaga, Pbbank
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Jul 30 2009, 05:03 PM
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QUOTE(debbieyss @ Jul 30 2009, 05:00 PM) since when i make you all worry so much.... Watch out for the day when, CI either up or down 50 pts a day.Big money to be made. |
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Jul 30 2009, 05:03 PM
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end of trading day finally
so anyone punt Handal today? sure fatt fatt yo !!! |
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KNM got news:
7164 KNM KNM GROUP BHD MEMORANDUM OF AGREEMENT MEMORANDUM OF AGREEMENT BETWEEN KNM PROCESS SYSTEMS SDN BHD AND SOCIETE DES HYDROCARBURES DU TCHAD S.A. (THE NATIONAL OIL CORPORATION OF CHAD) The Company is pleased to inform that its wholly owned subsidiary, KNM Process Systems Sdn Bhd (KNMPS) had entered into a Memorandum of Agreement on 29 July 2009 with Societe Des Hydrocarbures Du Tchad S.A. (The National Oil Corporation of Chad) in Djamina, the Republic of Chad to undertake, inter alia the following:- A. Establish a new joint venture operating company (JVCo) with a 60:40 split in equity and share of dividend in KNMPS favour, whereby the JVCo will be granted a 5 year concession commencing from first date of production (the Concession Period) to develop, operate and maintain the Sedigi Oilfield Facilities in Chad comprising of production facilities, oil and gas pipelines, LPG processing and bottling plant and a 30MW gas power plant. B. KNMPS will undertake the EPCC (turnkey) Contract with an estimated value of USD220 million for a duration of 24 months. C. The JVCo will award to KNMPS, training, operations and maintenance of the facilities for the Concession Period. D. The parties agree to finalise the details and execute a Joint Venture Operating Agreement (JVOA) by 31 August 2009. E. The Government of Chad will be entitled to royalties at 20% for oil and 10% for gas. F. Societe Des Hydrocarbures Du Tchad S.A. will endeavour to secure tax benefits within existing laws and KNMPS will do same for interest cost of project funding. This announcement is dated 30 July 2009. |
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Jul 30 2009, 05:08 PM
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Not bad, made it to 1160 :-P
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QUOTE(SKY 1809 @ Jul 30 2009, 05:03 PM) Watch out for the day when, CI either up or down 50 pts a day. noted...Big money to be made. no worry. Once i started trading, i already prepared for the worst |
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Jul 30 2009, 05:12 PM
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QUOTE(debbieyss @ Jul 30 2009, 05:10 PM) noted... So, you making money playing FutureS?no worry. Once i started trading, i already prepared for the worst |
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Jul 30 2009, 05:12 PM
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bye all~!
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Jul 30 2009, 05:13 PM
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QUOTE(debbieyss @ Jul 30 2009, 05:10 PM) noted... I doubt If you use expensive phone bill to check so often .no worry. Once i started trading, i already prepared for the worst Whether able to cover cost is another subject. again. Added on July 30, 2009, 5:18 pm QUOTE(debbieyss @ Jul 30 2009, 05:12 PM) bye all~! Plse do not forget to buy a modem on the way home.This post has been edited by SKY 1809: Jul 30 2009, 05:18 PM |
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Jul 30 2009, 06:06 PM
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QUOTE(chyaw @ Jul 30 2009, 05:05 PM) KNM got news: good news? 7164 KNM KNM GROUP BHD MEMORANDUM OF AGREEMENT MEMORANDUM OF AGREEMENT BETWEEN KNM PROCESS SYSTEMS SDN BHD AND SOCIETE DES HYDROCARBURES DU TCHAD S.A. (THE NATIONAL OIL CORPORATION OF CHAD) The Company is pleased to inform that its wholly owned subsidiary, KNM Process Systems Sdn Bhd (KNMPS) had entered into a Memorandum of Agreement on 29 July 2009 with Societe Des Hydrocarbures Du Tchad S.A. (The National Oil Corporation of Chad) in Djamina, the Republic of Chad to undertake, inter alia the following:- A. Establish a new joint venture operating company (JVCo) with a 60:40 split in equity and share of dividend in KNMPS favour, whereby the JVCo will be granted a 5 year concession commencing from first date of production (the Concession Period) to develop, operate and maintain the Sedigi Oilfield Facilities in Chad comprising of production facilities, oil and gas pipelines, LPG processing and bottling plant and a 30MW gas power plant. B. KNMPS will undertake the EPCC (turnkey) Contract with an estimated value of USD220 million for a duration of 24 months. C. The JVCo will award to KNMPS, training, operations and maintenance of the facilities for the Concession Period. D. The parties agree to finalise the details and execute a Joint Venture Operating Agreement (JVOA) by 31 August 2009. E. The Government of Chad will be entitled to royalties at 20% for oil and 10% for gas. F. Societe Des Hydrocarbures Du Tchad S.A. will endeavour to secure tax benefits within existing laws and KNMPS will do same for interest cost of project funding. This announcement is dated 30 July 2009. wanna top up some into existing 4500 units holding right now... |
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Jul 30 2009, 06:08 PM
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Accumulate another 10LOTs Lioncor 0.480
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Jul 30 2009, 06:29 PM
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QUOTE(SKY 1809 @ Jul 30 2009, 05:03 PM) Watch out for the day when, CI either up or down 50 pts a day. To be honest, that's only a swing of +-4% of the index value. Big money to be made. Dow jones used to have that kinda swing 1 year ago. HSI can easily move double that magnitute if you are really lucky/unlucky. |
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Jul 30 2009, 06:37 PM
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QUOTE(chyaw @ Jul 30 2009, 05:05 PM) KNM got news: Perhaps that is why oil is down to USD63+ but KNM manage to inch up to RM0.875 closing today. 7164 KNM KNM GROUP BHD MEMORANDUM OF AGREEMENT MEMORANDUM OF AGREEMENT BETWEEN KNM PROCESS SYSTEMS SDN BHD AND SOCIETE DES HYDROCARBURES DU TCHAD S.A. (THE NATIONAL OIL CORPORATION OF CHAD) The Company is pleased to inform that its wholly owned subsidiary, KNM Process Systems Sdn Bhd (KNMPS) had entered into a Memorandum of Agreement on 29 July 2009 with Societe Des Hydrocarbures Du Tchad S.A. (The National Oil Corporation of Chad) in Djamina, the Republic of Chad to undertake, inter alia the following:- » Click to show Spoiler - click again to hide... « This announcement is dated 30 July 2009. AdamG1981 any comments ? RM1 TP ? |
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Jul 30 2009, 07:39 PM
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ah, good news for KNM just when it needs it.
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Jul 30 2009, 08:05 PM
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oh my TH Plantation posted a bad quarter report
revenue drop profit drop EPS drop my dividend tenggelam water liao, sigh. should i change to a better ship?  |
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Jul 30 2009, 08:08 PM
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QUOTE(panasonic88 @ Jul 30 2009, 08:05 PM) oh my TH Plantation posted a bad quarter report This Q should not be a good one for plantation counters. But maybe you can jump to HSP revenue drop profit drop EPS drop my dividend tenggelam water liao, sigh. should i change to a better ship? |
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Jul 30 2009, 08:09 PM
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by the way
today has alot of Handal share disposal (by its shareholders) announcements baru listed today, sula mau selling ka |
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Jul 30 2009, 08:25 PM
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guys, some cool news
2925 CCB (Cycle & Carridge Bintang) was suspended today, guess what, they are giving a SPECIAL DIVIDEND worth RM1.20 & INTERM DIVIDEND of RM0.05 today's closing at 2.66 tomolo resume trading!! that's equivalent to 45% yeild man!  |
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Jul 30 2009, 08:26 PM
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Talking about CCB, I SMELL A BENZ
 vroom vroommm! This post has been edited by panasonic88: Jul 30 2009, 08:28 PM |
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Jul 30 2009, 08:27 PM
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Looks like a good news coming for KNM shareholders
And yeah, I'm happy as I'm getting my Arreit dividends |
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Jul 30 2009, 08:44 PM
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Tomorrow will fly sky high jor. Unlikely for us to grab...
Unless you got insider news and already bought it earlier... QUOTE(panasonic88 @ Jul 30 2009, 08:25 PM) guys, some cool news 2925 CCB (Cycle & Carridge Bintang) was suspended today, guess what, they are giving a SPECIAL DIVIDEND worth RM1.20 & INTERM DIVIDEND of RM0.05 today's closing at 2.66 tomolo resume trading!! that's equivalent to 45% yeild man! |
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Jul 30 2009, 08:47 PM
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OMG. that much for dividend?
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Jul 30 2009, 08:52 PM
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QUOTE(Medufsaid @ Jul 30 2009, 08:47 PM) OMG. that much for dividend? Special dividend come from business profit or something else?This company seems to be given out special dividend frequently. |
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Jul 30 2009, 09:01 PM
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i told my dad and he sounds unbelievable, afraid is mis-type RM0.12 as RM1.20
tomolo kasi queue queue and see. |
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Jul 30 2009, 09:03 PM
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QUOTE(protonw @ Jul 30 2009, 08:52 PM) Special dividend come from business profit or something else? now you mentioned it...This company seems to be given out special dividend frequently. 2006 - special dividend 203 sens 2007 - tarak kasi 2008 - special dividend RM1.35 2009 - special dividend RM1.20 |
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Jul 30 2009, 09:04 PM
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I'm actually checking its historical div and chart. The price seems to be quite stable at 2.00++ for past 3 yrs. When it gives special div, price will spike up accordingly then back to normal. Special div given in Y2003, 2006, and 2008...
QUOTE(protonw @ Jul 30 2009, 08:52 PM) Special dividend come from business profit or something else? This company seems to be given out special dividend frequently. Added on July 30, 2009, 9:06 pmCCB Y2003 div was the largest... $3.++!!! This post has been edited by chyaw: Jul 30 2009, 09:06 PM |
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Jul 30 2009, 09:08 PM
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yes exactly, i read that, too!
just one thing to bear in mind, price would be adjusted after ex-date, so one can take profit before ex |
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Jul 30 2009, 09:14 PM
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QUOTE(panasonic88 @ Jul 30 2009, 09:03 PM) now you mentioned it... N in 2003 417%.2006 - special dividend 203 sens 2007 - tarak kasi 2008 - special dividend RM1.35 2009 - special dividend RM1.20 This look like investing in this company can collect back capital within few years and the PE is low at 5.73 nia. Wah, really must q tomoro liao. |
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Jul 30 2009, 09:14 PM
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QUOTE(panasonic88 @ Jul 30 2009, 09:08 PM) yes exactly, i read that, too! pana jie u planning to goreng tmr? just one thing to bear in mind, price would be adjusted after ex-date, so one can take profit before ex these days...my uni start already..not as much time to monitor shares T.T |
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Jul 30 2009, 09:17 PM
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If tomorrow TOP is 1.20 higher, then no point buying....
QUOTE(panasonic88 @ Jul 30 2009, 09:08 PM) yes exactly, i read that, too! just one thing to bear in mind, price would be adjusted after ex-date, so one can take profit before ex |
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Jul 30 2009, 09:18 PM
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me long time tarak play swing liao, hopefully wont tersangkut
anyway, CCB usually announce SP on end of July, look at the chart. what a spikey pointer there!  |
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Jul 30 2009, 09:18 PM
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hhsssss... miss that boat d
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Jul 30 2009, 09:19 PM
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QUOTE(chyaw @ Jul 30 2009, 09:17 PM) If tomorrow TOP is 1.20 higher, then no point buying.... unlikely. that would be limit up jor.me guess opening price would have jumped 20-30 sens. so probably around 2.90-3.00 still have some room to swing before limit up. |
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Jul 30 2009, 09:20 PM
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QUOTE(lsmpro80 @ Jul 30 2009, 09:18 PM) hhsssss... miss that boat d CCB never come into my mind before or i should say, shamefully, today baru i know there is a counter called CCB (Cycle & Carridge Bintang), grrrr. a good counter worth buying during the dip. say 2.00 and below. |
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Jul 30 2009, 09:22 PM
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QUOTE(panasonic88 @ Jul 30 2009, 09:03 PM) now you mentioned it... Wow! What company is CCB? How come nobody open a thread for CCB when it is giving such good dividends?2006 - special dividend 203 sens 2007 - tarak kasi 2008 - special dividend RM1.35 2009 - special dividend RM1.20 With such good track record, I wouldn't mind buying it for long-term after the ex-date when the price drops..... Pana, buka CCB thread and post all useful info? |
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Jul 30 2009, 09:24 PM
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QUOTE(panasonic88 @ Jul 30 2009, 09:20 PM) CCB never come into my mind before same here! hahhaha or i should say, shamefully, today baru i know there is a counter called CCB (Cycle & Carridge Bintang), grrrr. a good counter worth buying during the dip. say 2.00 and below. |
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Jul 30 2009, 09:24 PM
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QUOTE(kmarc @ Jul 30 2009, 09:22 PM) Wow! What company is CCB? How come nobody open a thread for CCB when it is giving such good dividends? With such good track record, I wouldn't mind buying it for long-term after the ex-date when the price drops..... Pana, buka CCB thread and post all useful info? support, should also include in high dividend forum. |
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Jul 30 2009, 09:24 PM
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when is the ex date again ? and when should we check in ? cause i am planning to get a few for long term ..
Added on July 30, 2009, 9:28 pmdue to the net profit is actually decreased 48%.. how come is so much dividend given out.. very curious This post has been edited by lsmpro80: Jul 30 2009, 09:28 PM |
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Jul 30 2009, 09:29 PM
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ok sula buka
come come, lets queue to get CCB tomolo |
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Jul 30 2009, 09:32 PM
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Dow future so GREEN +70.00
tomolo is a GOOD DAY |
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Jul 30 2009, 09:34 PM
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QUOTE(panasonic88 @ Jul 30 2009, 09:20 PM) CCB never come into my mind before so .. pana what sort of price you are queuing ? sort of queuing together or i should say, shamefully, today baru i know there is a counter called CCB (Cycle & Carridge Bintang), grrrr. a good counter worth buying during the dip. say 2.00 and below. |
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Jul 30 2009, 09:34 PM
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QUOTE(chyaw @ Jul 30 2009, 05:05 PM) KNM got news: This is gud news rite?? my KNM tomorrow t3 need to decide whether to hold or not ...7164 KNM KNM GROUP BHD MEMORANDUM OF AGREEMENT MEMORANDUM OF AGREEMENT BETWEEN KNM PROCESS SYSTEMS SDN BHD AND SOCIETE DES HYDROCARBURES DU TCHAD S.A. (THE NATIONAL OIL CORPORATION OF CHAD) The Company is pleased to inform that its wholly owned subsidiary, KNM Process Systems Sdn Bhd (KNMPS) had entered into a Memorandum of Agreement on 29 July 2009 with Societe Des Hydrocarbures Du Tchad S.A. (The National Oil Corporation of Chad) in Djamina, the Republic of Chad to undertake, inter alia the following:- |
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Jul 30 2009, 09:34 PM
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CCB hmm.. definitely daytrade. was looking at historical prices just now. same thing happened last year.
i'm jumping in this one. |
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Jul 30 2009, 09:35 PM
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QUOTE(lsmpro80 @ Jul 30 2009, 09:34 PM) so .. pana what sort of price you are queuing ? sort of queuing together everybody q for CCB ka?? wah want to join but no bullet |
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Jul 30 2009, 09:37 PM
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my queue price ka... i tot i wrote up there
hope they didnt make a mistake by fooling us la, later amended announcement say should be RM0.12 instead of RM1.20... that time all go holland liao, LOL! |
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Jul 30 2009, 09:37 PM
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QUOTE(kroegand @ Jul 30 2009, 09:35 PM) everybody q for CCB ka?? wah want to join but no bullet Going to .. might squeeze additional fund into it. but still trying to figure out what sort of level to enter .. should it after ex ? or before Ex? or be with d group.. lolz.. advise... Added on July 30, 2009, 9:37 pmbesides the closing is at 2.66 now.. This post has been edited by lsmpro80: Jul 30 2009, 09:38 PM |
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Jul 30 2009, 09:39 PM
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QUOTE(lsmpro80 @ Jul 30 2009, 09:37 PM) Going to .. might squeeze additional fund into it. but still like teehk_lee said, daytrade. trying to figure out what sort of level to enter .. should it after ex ? or before Ex? or be with d group.. lolz.. advise... Added on July 30, 2009, 9:37 pmbesides the closing is at 2.66 now.. no reason to buy after ex date. this counter is in low volume and boring during normal days. unless you wan to accumulate i have created a dedicated thread for CCB: http://forum.lowyat.net/topic/1113976 yay! |
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Jul 30 2009, 09:43 PM
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QUOTE Announcement Subject : COMPUGATES HOLDINGS BERHAD (669287-H) (“COMPUGATES” OR “COMPANY”) - DISTRIBUTION AGREEMENT CELCOM PREPAID MOBILE BETWEEN CELCOM MOBILE SDN BHD AND COMPUGATES SDN BHD DATED 30 APRIL 2007 Contents : Reference is made to the Company’s announcements made on 16 July 2009, 17 July 2009 and 21 July 2009, in relation to the termination of the Distributionship Agreement Celcom Prepaid Mobile between Celcom Mobile Sdn Bhd (“Celcom”) and Compugates Sdn Bhd (“CSB”), a wholly owned subsidiary of the Company, dated 30 April 2007 including any supplemental and addendum executed thereof and the Extension Letter from Celcom dated 29 April 2009 [collectively referred to as “Agreement(s)”]. The Board of Directors of Compugates wishes to announce that CSB had on 28 July 2009 received a reply letter from Celcom dated 27 July 2009, rejecting CSB’s request for Celcom to re-consider their decision to terminate the Agreements and that the Agreements shall be terminated with effect from 29 July 2009. This announcement is dated 29 July 2009. Compugt got bad news on the termination of the celcom prepaid mobile distributorship agreement. Damn.. haha.. its going to be insane .. |
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Jul 30 2009, 09:45 PM
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QUOTE(lsmpro80 @ Jul 30 2009, 09:43 PM) Compugt got bad news on the termination of the celcom prepaid mobile distributorship agreement. Damn.. i thought there were already an announcement on this before?? haha.. its going to be insane .. |
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Jul 30 2009, 09:45 PM
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what ideas do you guys have in mind now regarding this counter?
Added on July 30, 2009, 9:45 pmwill it affect much ? This post has been edited by lsmpro80: Jul 30 2009, 09:45 PM |
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Jul 30 2009, 09:46 PM
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QUOTE(panasonic88 @ Jul 30 2009, 09:37 PM) my queue price ka... i tot i wrote up there Tomorrow, investors just Q like those applying for ASM. hope they didnt make a mistake by fooling us la, later amended announcement say should be RM0.12 instead of RM1.20... that time all go holland liao, LOL! Good business for Bursa |
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Jul 30 2009, 09:47 PM
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Thanks for the thread, can now discuss specific to CCB counter.
Hm still mulling whether to jump in or not... |
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Jul 30 2009, 09:48 PM
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QUOTE(nujikabane @ Jul 30 2009, 09:47 PM) Thanks for the thread, can now discuss specific to CCB counter. dont want to miss it.. just day trade. besides. just be sure of jumping in ..and out.. on timeHm still mulling whether to jump in or not... |
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Jul 30 2009, 09:50 PM
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QUOTE(lsmpro80 @ Jul 30 2009, 09:43 PM) Compugt got bad news on the termination of the celcom prepaid mobile distributorship agreement. Damn.. I thought the news was weeks ago? The shareholders were made aware of this, after all, and the news should come as no surprise to the shareholders. haha.. its going to be insane .. |
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Jul 30 2009, 09:52 PM
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QUOTE(nujikabane @ Jul 30 2009, 09:50 PM) I thought the news was weeks ago? The shareholders were made aware of this, after all, and the news should come as no surprise to the shareholders. Seriously ? Weeks Ago ? Crap... i am not that updated .. where do you guys read it ? Weeks ago was discussing the appeal and reconsideration .. sharks..  |
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Jul 30 2009, 09:54 PM
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QUOTE(lsmpro80 @ Jul 30 2009, 09:52 PM) Seriously ? Weeks Ago ? Crap... i am not that updated yeah, the first compugts thread posted it up about a week plus ago IIRC. n there was a SC query to Compugts about that as well. .. where do you guys read it ? Weeks ago was discussing the appeal and reconsideration .. sharks.. This post has been edited by teehk_tee: Jul 30 2009, 09:57 PM |
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Jul 30 2009, 09:54 PM
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QUOTE(SKY 1809 @ Jul 30 2009, 09:46 PM) Tomorrow, investors just Q like those applying for ASM. and indirectly benefited your LC Good business for Bursa |
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Jul 30 2009, 09:56 PM
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lol i think is gonna be worse than ASM.
will bursa issue UMA to CCB? |
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Jul 30 2009, 10:00 PM
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QUOTE(teehk_tee @ Jul 30 2009, 09:56 PM) lol i think is gonna be worse than ASM. dun think they'll get UMA. plus looking at the volume, i think it'll be hard to buy them as existing shareholders probably would prefer to get the 45% dividen. that's what i do if i'm an existing shareholders will bursa issue UMA to CCB? |
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Jul 30 2009, 10:03 PM
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CCB will have up limit unlike handal, so most it fly will be 3x%
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Jul 30 2009, 10:04 PM
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QUOTE(Junior83 @ Jul 30 2009, 10:03 PM) CCB will have up limit unlike handal, so most it fly will be 3x% limit up 30% per trading session IIRC. |
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Jul 30 2009, 10:06 PM
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My daily newsletter for those who cant receive it.
From: godwin.chan@osk.com.my To: godwin.chan@osk.com.my CC: futuresdesk@osk.com.my; futuresdealing@osk.com.my Subject: Daily newsletter 30.07.09 : The revenge of the BULLS Date: Thu, 30 Jul 2009 09:00:32 +0800 Good morning, For two days consecutive, SPX and DOW have tried to break the neckline support of the inverse h&s but failed to break through convincingly thus reinforcing the belief that the DOW and the SPX have further room to go. PLEASE BE AWARE THAT THE LONGER KLCI REMAINS ABOVE 1150 LEVEL, THE CHANCES OF KLCI HITTING 1200 IS VERY VERY HIGH. Recommendation: SHORT at your RISK as KLCI has FAILED to break down 1150 while DOW / SPX failed to break down as well. Buy and hold, maintain tight stop. |
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Jul 30 2009, 10:11 PM
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QUOTE(teehk_tee @ Jul 30 2009, 09:56 PM) lol i think is gonna be worse than ASM. Why UMA ? The Bursa knows for certain what's causing it! LOL will bursa issue UMA to CCB? |
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Jul 30 2009, 10:13 PM
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KLSE Boleh. All green but KLSE RED.
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QUOTE(AdamG1981 @ Jul 30 2009, 11:06 PM) My daily newsletter for those who cant receive it. Thanks, Adam! From: godwin.chan@osk.com.my To: godwin.chan@osk.com.my CC: futuresdesk@osk.com.my; futuresdealing@osk.com.my Subject: Daily newsletter 30.07.09 : The revenge of the BULLS Date: Thu, 30 Jul 2009 09:00:32 +0800 Good morning, For two days consecutive, SPX and DOW have tried to break the neckline support of the inverse h&s but failed to break through convincingly thus reinforcing the belief that the DOW and the SPX have further room to go. PLEASE BE AWARE THAT THE LONGER KLCI REMAINS ABOVE 1150 LEVEL, THE CHANCES OF KLCI HITTING 1200 IS VERY VERY HIGH. Recommendation: SHORT at your RISK as KLCI has FAILED to break down 1150 while DOW / SPX failed to break down as well. Buy and hold, maintain tight stop. |
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Jul 30 2009, 10:16 PM
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Dow up 148 pts
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Jul 30 2009, 10:17 PM
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adam .. is it can include any one in the newsletter list? can i?
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Jul 30 2009, 10:21 PM
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The newsletter is for OSK clients (early am) which is written by me and i will attach couple of charts, mostly related to the US equities.
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Jul 30 2009, 10:23 PM
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QUOTE(SKY 1809 @ Jul 30 2009, 10:16 PM) Dow up 148 pts Serious ? Wow.. tomorrow is a sure rally day then. Combine with AdamG's output of the newsletter. (its a real revenge of the bull) |
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Jul 30 2009, 10:23 PM
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DJ is sooo greeeennnn $$$$$
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Just wondering will it be the bluechips that push or the small caps that play!!..
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Jul 30 2009, 10:25 PM
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all indexes opened at higher than the previous closing price
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Jul 30 2009, 10:28 PM
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QUOTE(debbieyss @ Jul 30 2009, 10:25 PM) all indexes opened at higher than the previous closing price lol very bullish. looks like u're gonna get back ur phone bills and get some KFC. $$$$$$ |
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Jul 30 2009, 10:28 PM
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Anyone going in for CCB?
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Jul 30 2009, 10:28 PM
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QUOTE(debbieyss @ Jul 30 2009, 10:25 PM) all indexes opened at higher than the previous closing price \$$$$$$ Wow.. Seriously!! that is a splendid green waves.. guess CCB and Handal will maximize this chance to the max!!! |
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Jul 30 2009, 10:29 PM
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QUOTE(debbieyss @ Jul 30 2009, 10:25 PM) all indexes opened at higher than the previous closing price Usually when index up or down only you can make money?$$$$$$ |
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Jul 30 2009, 10:29 PM
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QUOTE(panasonic88 @ Jul 30 2009, 05:03 PM) end of trading day finally Really a Black Horse...... those sai lang could be millionaire liao.... but i don't see any LYN ppl dare to touch this horse. so anyone punt Handal today? sure fatt fatt yo !!! |
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Jul 30 2009, 10:30 PM
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QUOTE(jasontoh @ Jul 30 2009, 10:29 PM) Usually when index up or down only you can make money? isnt that suppose to be ? ahem.. confuse |
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Jul 30 2009, 10:31 PM
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QUOTE(jasontoh @ Jul 30 2009, 10:28 PM) Anyone going in for CCB? there's a couple peeps here that's already gonna hold hands (hopefully not to holland) on this stock tomorrow. maybe big shots naz, sky, proton, david, zamans, nujika gonna be in too speaking of which.. havent heard from moorish in a while. This post has been edited by teehk_tee: Jul 30 2009, 10:32 PM |
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Jul 30 2009, 10:31 PM
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QUOTE(teehk_tee @ Jul 30 2009, 10:28 PM) lol very bullish. looks like u're gonna get back ur phone bills and get some KFC. yeah....can definitely get back my phone billnot KFC for this time hmm.....cover all my loss first QUOTE(lsmpro80 @ Jul 30 2009, 10:28 PM) \ http://finance.yahoo.com/Wow.. Seriously!! that is a splendid green waves.. guess CCB and Handal will maximize this chance to the max!!! Added on July 30, 2009, 10:33 pm QUOTE(jasontoh @ Jul 30 2009, 10:29 PM) Usually when index up or down only you can make money? hard to say...sometimes DJ up, SP down, CI down sometimes vice versa but this is not important the most important thing is: ALL us market is opening far greeeennnn NOW This post has been edited by debbieyss: Jul 30 2009, 10:33 PM |
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Jul 30 2009, 10:33 PM
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Debbie, wheres my lunch at Tai Thong?
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Jul 30 2009, 10:35 PM
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QUOTE(AdamG1981 @ Jul 30 2009, 10:33 PM) Debbie, wheres my lunch at Tai Thong? eh...you never tell me when you free.. |
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Jul 30 2009, 10:36 PM
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wah.. debbie is treating ? count me in ? lolz
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Jul 30 2009, 10:38 PM
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hm, not sure how OnG gonna hold out tomorrow.
Shell and ExxonMobil posts profit drops of 66% and 67% respectively in 2Q. |
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Jul 30 2009, 10:39 PM
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Crude Oil USD66+
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Jul 30 2009, 10:40 PM
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QUOTE(cute_boboi @ Jul 30 2009, 10:39 PM) Crude Oil USD66+ why are you sweating ? its a good pick up right ? |
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Jul 30 2009, 10:40 PM
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QUOTE(teehk_tee @ Jul 30 2009, 10:38 PM) hm, not sure how OnG gonna hold out tomorrow. I think those numbers were kinda expected - so shouldn't do too much damage IMHO. Yesterday everyone worried KNM would tank but it didn't (well, not really!). Shell and ExxonMobil posts profit drops of 66% and 67% respectively in 2Q. |
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Jul 30 2009, 10:41 PM
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QUOTE(debbieyss @ Jul 30 2009, 07:35 AM) eh... This weekend not free, going to genting. you never tell me when you free.. Next week monday lah |
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Jul 30 2009, 10:41 PM
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QUOTE(lsmpro80 @ Jul 30 2009, 10:40 PM) why are you sweating ? its a good pick up right ? I'm always sweating whether is good/bad news. |
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Jul 30 2009, 10:42 PM
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QUOTE(cute_boboi @ Jul 30 2009, 10:39 PM) Crude Oil USD66+ A lot of LYN members will be much happier when it's well north of US$70.00 |
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Jul 30 2009, 10:43 PM
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QUOTE(David_Brent @ Jul 30 2009, 10:40 PM) I think those numbers were kinda expected - so shouldn't do too much damage IMHO. Yesterday everyone worried KNM would tank but it didn't (well, not really!). KNM did not tank today, even though crude oil is around USD63+ at that time. I think it is the news that chyaw posted which makes KNM close green. |
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Jul 30 2009, 10:44 PM
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Luckily average down on Genting...
Hope it will continue to go up until next year since Genting Singapore will start to open January 2010. CCB, can consider to cheong and sell after profit 10% hehe |
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Jul 30 2009, 10:45 PM
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good upside for KNM imo.
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Jul 30 2009, 10:45 PM
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QUOTE(cute_boboi @ Jul 30 2009, 10:43 PM) KNM did not tank today, even though crude oil is around USD63+ at that time. I think it is the news that chyaw posted which makes KNM close green. Good Good .. keep that up .. Too many counters going to roar tomorrow with just simply. No more bullets to pump d.. what a waste. Added on July 30, 2009, 10:45 pm QUOTE(edwin32us @ Jul 30 2009, 10:44 PM) Luckily average down on Genting... i think genting is always in style whenever its near to chinese new year Hope it will continue to go up until next year since Genting Singapore will start to open January 2010. CCB, can consider to cheong and sell after profit 10% hehe This post has been edited by lsmpro80: Jul 30 2009, 10:45 PM |
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Jul 30 2009, 10:46 PM
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QUOTE(AdamG1981 @ Jul 30 2009, 10:41 PM) This weekend not free, going to genting. next week Monday... i'm not sure can or notNext week monday lah you lemme know your schedule, i choose from there |
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Jul 30 2009, 10:47 PM
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Added on July 30, 2009, 10:45 pm i think genting is always in style whenever its near to chinese new year [/quote] China man company mah sure want their shares to go up so that it will bring good sign for the following year |
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Jul 30 2009, 10:53 PM
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FTSE is now well north of 4,600...
Quite a breakthrough in the current environment IMHO. |
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Jul 30 2009, 10:54 PM
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QUOTE(teehk_tee @ Jul 30 2009, 10:31 PM) there's a couple peeps here that's already gonna hold hands (hopefully not to holland) on this stock tomorrow. maybe big shots naz, sky, proton, david, zamans, nujika gonna be in too wow, issit going to list tomorrow?speaking of which.. havent heard from moorish in a while. i will jumped in. Sayang, Q low for Handal. even 10,000 can make good money. |
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Jul 30 2009, 10:56 PM
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QUOTE(debbieyss @ Jul 30 2009, 07:46 AM) next week Monday... i'm not sure can or not Ok. Will text u once i am free. you lemme know your schedule, i choose from there |
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Jul 30 2009, 10:58 PM
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The mad bulls of NYSE attacking again..
DJ rallying up 150+ Oil going back to $65, following stocks with weak fundalmentals. Exxon (Esso) posted loss. missed earnings, lacking revenue.. but market still rallies. People are buying like crazy. |
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Jul 30 2009, 11:02 PM
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QUOTE(danmooncake @ Jul 30 2009, 10:58 PM) The mad bulls of NYSE attacking again.. The bears are in the woods - doing what bears do in woods! DJ rallying up 150+ Oil going back to $65, following stocks with weak fundalmentals. Exxon (Esso) posted loss. missed earnings, lacking revenue.. but market still rallies. People are buying like crazy. |
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Jul 30 2009, 11:03 PM
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yes , yes.. tomolo klci will retest 1200 .. if break will go up till 1250 not a problem.. my advice is sapu klci 30 companies...
Added on July 30, 2009, 11:04 pmyes , yes.. tomolo klci will retest 1200 .. if break will go up till 1250 not a problem.. my advice is sapu klci 30 companies... This post has been edited by pogimoon: Jul 30 2009, 11:04 PM |
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Jul 30 2009, 11:04 PM
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QUOTE(danmooncake @ Jul 30 2009, 10:58 PM) The mad bulls of NYSE attacking again.. if you cannot sell ( short ) , the only way is to buy. DJ rallying up 150+ Oil going back to $65, following stocks with weak fundalmentals. Exxon (Esso) posted loss. missed earnings, lacking revenue.. but market still rallies. People are buying like crazy. |
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Jul 30 2009, 11:06 PM
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QUOTE(danmooncake @ Jul 30 2009, 10:58 PM) The mad bulls of NYSE attacking again.. Sounds like this rally is surprising even you, DMC? DJ rallying up 150+ Oil going back to $65, following stocks with weak fundalmentals. Exxon (Esso) posted loss. missed earnings, lacking revenue.. but market still rallies. People are buying like crazy. What is your take on what is driving it? |
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Jul 30 2009, 11:13 PM
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QUOTE(David_Brent @ Jul 30 2009, 11:06 PM) Sounds like this rally is surprising even you, DMC? Definitely Irrational Exuberance. What is your take on what is driving it? We are so top heavy, I'm expecting a nice pullback.. but just too many dip buyers at the door. The earnings are guided so low, most companies can beat 'em easily. All "less bad" become "Recession is Over!" This is pure madness!! I tell ya! Everyone is taking ecstasy pill. By next quarter, reality may come in and say.. hey.. where's the earnings, where's the growth, where's the jobs? |
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Jul 30 2009, 11:14 PM
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QUOTE(David_Brent @ Jul 30 2009, 11:06 PM) Sounds like this rally is surprising even you, DMC? Jobless data stabilizing, no? What is your take on what is driving it? |
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Jul 30 2009, 11:15 PM
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The dilemma of to chase or not to chase eh?
MOST of the time, you can get it cheaper if u wait. But if you don't chase, you'll ABSOLUTELY miss that rare runaway rally. What say you? |
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Jul 30 2009, 11:19 PM
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Trailing stop set, and waiting for DOW to breach 9300 tonight at the last hour. Good night.
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Jul 30 2009, 11:20 PM
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Wah...DJ so green tonight..luck today used 1/6 bullet to buy KNM...
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Jul 30 2009, 11:22 PM
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QUOTE(Ka3tr0 @ Jul 30 2009, 11:20 PM) Wah...DJ so green tonight..luck today used 1/6 bullet to buy KNM... whoa, 1/6, that is about 30K! |
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Jul 30 2009, 11:26 PM
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QUOTE(zamans98 @ Jul 30 2009, 11:22 PM) whoa, 1/6, that is about 30K! Woit..u track my account ka ..50k to be exact..  |
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Jul 30 2009, 11:30 PM
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QUOTE(danmooncake @ Jul 30 2009, 11:13 PM) Definitely Irrational Exuberance. I agree with you. Waiting for a pullback too.We are so top heavy, I'm expecting a nice pullback.. but just too many dip buyers at the door. The earnings are guided so low, most companies can beat 'em easily. All "less bad" become "Recession is Over!" This is pure madness!! I tell ya! Everyone is taking ecstasy pill. By next quarter, reality may come in and say.. hey.. where's the earnings, where's the growth, where's the jobs? However, the market seems to ignore this and keeps on rallying up. Investors entering the market recently will either reap huge rewards if the market do continue its upward trend or get caught again if it goes the other way. I'd rather think it is the latter.... |
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Jul 30 2009, 11:33 PM
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QUOTE(danmooncake @ Jul 30 2009, 11:13 PM) Definitely Irrational Exuberance. Hmmmm - strange, maybe a new supply from Columbia in town? We are so top heavy, I'm expecting a nice pullback.. but just too many dip buyers at the door. The earnings are guided so low, most companies can beat 'em easily. All "less bad" become "Recession is Over!" This is pure madness!! I tell ya! Everyone is taking ecstasy pill. By next quarter, reality may come in and say.. hey.. where's the earnings, where's the growth, where's the jobs? There are definitely a lot of nasty surprises still hidden under the carpet and the banks (especially in Europe) have not 'fessed up yet....not even close. This 'queasing' by western governments is having a strange effect. "The law of unintended consequences" springs to mind....or do governments WANT to markets to boom? P.S. to Jason - Unemployment is NOT stabilizing - it is going to get a whole lot worse in the US, UK and Europe before it gets better IMO. Added on July 30, 2009, 11:35 pm QUOTE(Ka3tr0 @ Jul 30 2009, 11:26 PM) Woit..u track my account ka Sell at 1.07??? ..50k to be exact.. This post has been edited by David_Brent: Jul 30 2009, 11:35 PM |
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Jul 30 2009, 11:40 PM
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QUOTE(David_Brent @ Jul 30 2009, 11:33 PM) Hmmmm - strange, maybe a new supply from Columbia in town? Well, I only worry we will be suffering as there are rumours that US Govt is giving incentives for MNC to redeploy back to US. So if that is the case, I wonder how the unemployment in Msia would look like There are definitely a lot of nasty surprises still hidden under the carpet and the banks (especially in Europe) have not 'fessed up yet....not even close. This 'queasing' by western governments is having a strange effect. "The law of unintended consequences" springs to mind....or do governments WANT to markets to boom? P.S. to Jason - Unemployment is NOT stabilizing - it is going to get a whole lot worse in the US, UK and Europe before it gets better IMO. Added on July 30, 2009, 11:35 pm Sell at 1.07??? |
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Jul 30 2009, 11:43 PM
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Hopefully DB, hopefully...
if it go down, will use 100k at 80 cents and another 150k at 70 cents |
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Jul 30 2009, 11:44 PM
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QUOTE(jasontoh @ Jul 30 2009, 11:40 PM) Well, I only worry we will be suffering as there are rumours that US Govt is giving incentives for MNC to redeploy back to US. So if that is the case, I wonder how the unemployment in Msia would look like The thing about unemployment in Malaysia is that there are absolutely NO RELIABLE NUMBERS...That is one of the big reasons FFs won't invest here. What data/statistics from the GUBMINT are there that anyone in their right mind would rely on? Added on July 30, 2009, 11:46 pm QUOTE(Ka3tr0 @ Jul 30 2009, 11:43 PM) Hopefully DB, hopefully... if it go down, will use 100k at 80 cents and another 150k at 70 cents I like your style! This post has been edited by David_Brent: Jul 30 2009, 11:46 PM |
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Jul 30 2009, 11:52 PM
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QUOTE(danmooncake @ Jul 30 2009, 11:13 PM) Definitely Irrational Exuberance. You know what, now even hedge fund managers are 'kiasu' right now. Everyone scare not having enough equities so that their report card won't be lag behind the market.We are so top heavy, I'm expecting a nice pullback.. but just too many dip buyers at the door. The earnings are guided so low, most companies can beat 'em easily. All "less bad" become "Recession is Over!" This is pure madness!! I tell ya! Everyone is taking ecstasy pill. By next quarter, reality may come in and say.. hey.. where's the earnings, where's the growth, where's the jobs? Previously, people scare off depression, now they scare off not investing enough! If market is going up more, and you as a fund manager doesn't buy enought to on par with broader market performance or indices, you are screwed big time, could hurt your performance rating big time. That's why market is up, up and up, never pull back at all. Everyone is buying, whether want to buy or need to buy. Just like locally, once people put money in ASM, PNB only mandate is to buy stock in the market eventually KLCI continue to go up, disregard whether the stock price is a bit on the high side or has risen too fast or too much. They need to buy. They can't put your money in bank as cash. This is what happening right now. As long as there is no seller that urgent to sell or need the cash one, some buying activities will suppport the market already. Having said that, we need real economy recovery, and earning recovery over the long term so that this rally has a real leg. |
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Jul 30 2009, 11:55 PM
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Any comment about Ramunia ?? 3 August is coming .. Will SIME sign the contract or withdraw at last minute ?
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Jul 30 2009, 11:58 PM
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QUOTE(Ka3tr0 @ Jul 30 2009, 11:26 PM) Woit..u track my account ka aiya. salah calculate... should be near 300, coz u made back on KNN, eh salah KNM ..50k to be exact.. So, target KNM only meh? How about other counters? Im still stuck with SAHAGG, SCAMMY, LIONCRAP, and SEASUNK.. haizzz. move-it, move-it. Feels like the bull will charge again.. time to UNLOAD and lay low. CCB anyone? |
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Jul 31 2009, 12:04 AM
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QUOTE(teehk_tee @ Jul 30 2009, 10:31 PM) there's a couple peeps here that's already gonna hold hands (hopefully not to holland) on this stock tomorrow. maybe big shots naz, sky, proton, david, zamans, nujika gonna be in too small shots, add me..... speaking of which.. havent heard from moorish in a while. |
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Jul 31 2009, 12:21 AM
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QUOTE(teehk_tee @ Jul 30 2009, 10:31 PM) there's a couple peeps here that's already gonna hold hands (hopefully not to holland) on this stock tomorrow. maybe big shots naz, sky, proton, david, zamans, nujika gonna be in too LOL apa big shot, me kasi pagi, makan pagi, kais petang, makan petang fella. Sometimes no money eat yesterday's leftovers, haha.speaking of which.. havent heard from moorish in a while. Decided not to jump to CCB. For one, I have just look at the charts, no research done. And i've seen that the counter is inactive most time of the year, so might have liquidity issue there. And by the look of things, I believe people will Q like crazy tomorrow, so the price will soar, since the shareholders would rather keep the stocks for dividend than to realise their capital. |
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Jul 31 2009, 12:21 AM
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Well.. Europe very green.. currently US very green too. Oil up almost 5%.
Tomorrow ours sure rally. If not, donno what else to say.. haha. |
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Jul 31 2009, 12:24 AM
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QUOTE(Freelancer @ Jul 31 2009, 12:21 AM) Well.. Europe very green.. currently US very green too. Oil up almost 5%. Hopefully it rallies.Tomorrow ours sure rally. If not, donno what else to say.. haha. If not, then Bursa is the only stock exchange that forgot to take via g ra. But then, maybe it' already taken to much, OD, suddenly got heart attack, and terkulai di tepi jalan, haha. Bursa, |
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Jul 31 2009, 12:28 AM
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QUOTE(nujikabane @ Jul 31 2009, 12:21 AM) LOL apa big shot, me kasi pagi, makan pagi, kais petang, makan petang fella. Sometimes no money eat yesterday's leftovers, haha. Totally agree Decided not to jump to CCB. For one, I have just look at the charts, no research done. And i've seen that the counter is inactive most time of the year, so might have liquidity issue there. And by the look of things, I believe people will Q like crazy tomorrow, so the price will soar, since the shareholders would rather keep the stocks for dividend than to realise their capital. Posted a comment on the sub-forum; if you're inside you'll do fine....but for retail (or any kind of) investors, this counter does not tick any of the right boxes - not by a long way, IMHO |
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Jul 31 2009, 12:30 AM
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QUOTE(David_Brent @ Jul 31 2009, 12:28 AM) Totally agree OT : Agree what ? That I'm not a big shot, that I'm a pauper ? Isy ini menimbulkan marah ! LOL Posted a comment on the sub-forum; if you're inside you'll do fine....but for retail (or any kind of) investors, this counter does not tick any of the right boxes - not by a long way, IMHO Agree with you too. This is the type of counter that got electric jolt everytime it announces dividend, and after that, goes back into deep slumber. |
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Jul 31 2009, 12:32 AM
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QUOTE(nujikabane @ Jul 31 2009, 12:24 AM) Hopefully it rallies. Our problem here is very simple:If not, then Bursa is the only stock exchange that forgot to take via g ra. But then, maybe it' already taken to much, OD, suddenly got heart attack, and terkulai di tepi jalan, haha. Bursa, 1. Transparency 2. Liquidity 3. Confidence All three are inter-related; if the powers that be do not or can not get ALL THREE right then we won't move forward. IMHO - Just my opinion only. This statement does not constitute an offer to sell or buy securities.....your country is at risk if you do not keep up re-payments secured on it.....blah.....blah......blah......etc......etc......etc....... Added on July 31, 2009, 12:38 am QUOTE(nujikabane @ Jul 31 2009, 12:30 AM) OT : Agree what ? That I'm not a big shot, that I'm a pauper ? Isy ini menimbulkan marah ! LOL Me no speakee da malayu tuan..... This post has been edited by David_Brent: Jul 31 2009, 12:38 AM |
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Jul 31 2009, 05:50 AM
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NYSE update:
DJ 9154.46 +83.74 +0.92% NAS 1984.30 +16.54 1.19% S&P500 986.75 +11.60 +1.19% Today is like a black swan event to me. This is totally unexpected. The bulls not suppose to get this far but it did. Yes, I was shorting energy.. this time, the market caught me.  Last night morning, the crude oil was pretty bad. I was expecting it pull back to 60. US inventory was all time high: 5.1 milllion barrels of crude overstock Exxon/Esso (XOM) one of the dow component missed its earnings big time. 66% drop from last year, reported 0.83/share instead of expected 1.01/share. Steel and copper inventory was overflowing into Thames @ LME, China not buying, etc. Even the US jobless claim came out bad but the media spins as yet again as good. Less than 1 hour later. The Dow rallies 3 digits up. What's the news?Oil lost -3 yesterday, today, it gained back +5 with no fundamentals support. Only at close, the Dow give back some as teaser. Tomorrow, US 2nd Qtr GDP will be released.. as usual, even it is a bad number, because the bulls are so pumped up with v-i-a-g-r-a, the bears will get sodomized no matter. Mr. Market. I gotta give it to you. This post has been edited by danmooncake: Jul 31 2009, 06:21 AM |
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Jul 31 2009, 07:11 AM
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QUOTE(danmooncake @ Jul 31 2009, 05:50 AM) NYSE update: Let me give u an insight of the O&G business...most of the operator had learnt their mistake 4-6 yrs ago where they cut back most of the exploration/development drilling campaign due to oil price...i believe somewhere around 30-60 dollar / bbl...there's always a clause in the rigs contract whereby the rig rate would follow the oil price trend...if it goes up by certain amount, their day rate goes up by certain amount....at the peak of the bubble last year, there were short of rigs all over the world...DJ 9154.46 +83.74 +0.92% NAS 1984.30 +16.54 1.19% S&P500 986.75 +11.60 +1.19% Today is like a black swan event to me. This is totally unexpected. The bulls not suppose to get this far but it did. Yes, I was shorting energy.. this time, the market caught me. Last night morning, the crude oil was pretty bad. I was expecting it pull back to 60. US inventory was all time high: 5.1 milllion barrels of crude overstock Exxon/Esso (XOM) one of the dow component missed its earnings big time. 66% drop from last year, reported 0.83/share instead of expected 1.01/share. Steel and copper inventory was overflowing into Thames @ LME, China not buying, etc. Even the US jobless claim came out bad but the media spins as yet again as good. Less than 1 hour later. The Dow rallies 3 digits up. What's the news?Oil lost -3 yesterday, today, it gained back +5 with no fundamentals support. Only at close, the Dow give back some as teaser. Tomorrow, US 2nd Qtr GDP will be released.. as usual, even it is a bad number, because the bulls are so pumped up with v-i-a-g-r-a, the bears will get sodomized no matter. Mr. Market. I gotta give it to you. Now that the oil price has come back down, and the rig rate become cheaper, the operators are doubling their exploration campaign. It takes 2-3 yrs from discovery to 1st oil..it will be interesting to see how this would impact O&G operator in another 3-4 yrs..i bet they will make tons of money....the only obstacle right now is to get the demand back..no demand = cheap oil price, simple as that. Watch out for those company that has close tie to Petronas..Scomi, KNM, Petronas has a tendency to bring this company where ever they go, 30 over country to list..I believe they will benefit alot from that move so watch out for them...FYI, On average, cost to produce 1 bbl of crude should lie somewhere around ~20-30 dollar for offshore operation...Just my 2 cents ---- I wanna see CCB firework today This post has been edited by Ka3tr0: Jul 31 2009, 08:21 AM |
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