gotta love it when a country is recognized for overwhelming reception of....a Bay movie.

contradictory yes...but agreeable...
mainly because the CGI itself is characters (aliens) that's not human/3D cartoons (as in pixar/dreamworks animated movies)...terminators in Terminator Salvation is MacGuffins cause the're robots...

This post has been edited by ray148: Jun 28 2009, 06:12 PM

More on TF:ROTF(or was it ROLF?)....

Consistency errors: When Sam and company, the twins and Bee were teleported by Jetfire, they ended up in somewhere in Egypt. Later, they drove all da way to Giza, where the pyramids are. Figuring out what the clue pointed to, they went to the other ancient ruins, which is in Petra, Jordan. By driving. Later, they went back to Egypt, also by driving.

How the hell can you go from Egypt to Jordan and then Egypt back in a small amount of time simply by driving? Last I checked they only spent a single night in Egypt when they arrived there, before going to petra the next day.

And how come when the Americans start showing up and battling the Deceps in Egypt, there are no signs of the local Egyptian army? Everywhere it's just the Americans and more Americans. Granted, some Egyptian helicopters arrived to help Leo and Simmons and got shot down, but ho about the main battle.

Sorry for the rant, but I need to release a bit. yeah, I'm cool now.

There are heaps of consistency problems in the movie.

Thats why i say you should just turn off your brain and watch.

ROTF means Roll On The Floor?

they were in jordan, not egypt when the final battle was on... the command centre asked for a clearance from the jordanian or something like that and the jordanian forces sent some puny helicopters

Transformers: Roll On The Floor

Thats a good one.

I thought it was hilarious when Sam was screaming like a girl when he was attacked in the room.

The pyramids are not in Jordan

Kinda too late for that, but thanks anyhow.

Oh. Makes sense now. Still, the sight of ungodly amount of American forces on foreign land practically blowing up stuff and destroying things does send a worrying message. It's like they're saying,"Mess with America, get screwed sideways".

But then it still doesnt work even when you do that.

isnt that what they are doing in Iran and Afghan in the war lol? people keep forgetting its an american movie plus MB wouldnt have gotten those shots with military gear if not for the US military willingness to contribute for some promotional purposes through Bay's movies. If they shot in Malaysia,and the Malaysian military gave their equipment as props wouldnt that say something along the lines of "mess with Malaysia get screwed sideways?" on second thought, with Malaysian jets and choppers going down for mysterious reasons i doubt Bay would ever use any of our gear

Funny that the American 'represented' the earth planet, asking Autobots to leave earth. America, representative of the Earth!

And in all of them, the robots are the main characters. Even Spike Witwicky, who was in the original '80s cartoon, was only a minor character. It was the robots whose stories we followed, who had personalities, who had character, and whom the audience cared about.

But Michael Bay doesn't think so. He did not give personalities to any of the robots. He barely allocated enough screen time to develop them. Bumblebee has no voice. Megatron is no longer the Decepticon leader. Ironhide gets barely 2 lines of dialogue. Every other robot is nothing more than a background special effect.

That's why there are so many dumb robots, like Frenzy from the first movie, or the Doctor from this one, or Wheelie, or the Pretender chick. They're not cool, nobody cares about them, nobody wanted to see them, and they don't even make good toys. And that's why Wheelie and the Twins disappear so suddenly. They may be annoying, but we've been following them for the entire second act - but Bay just doesn't care about them. On the other hand, he makes sure to show us that Leo is okay at the end of the movie.

Look at the robots' faces. Every one of them. They're incapable of displaying emotion. We can't tell if they're smiling, or angry, or scared, or worried. They're not characters. They're...

...well, a movie can have more than one MacGuffin. But perhaps MacGuffin isn't the right term to describe them. How about... they're plot devices.

Not characters.

u already mention clearance

meaning they just need permission for their awacs i assume to fly into their territory thats all

btw watch it 2nd time at cosmo theater .... terrible sound system....really really terrible

Spike wasnt a minor character mate, remember bumblebee begged his family to fix him up and also optimus passed him the creation matrix which he gave life to Jetfire, there is so many instances where Buster helped the autobots and vice versa especially his dad Sparkplug who also managed to modify the autobots to process raw fuel as energy at the absence of energon, i feel that the novels,comic books and the series has given me an in depth information about the autobots and the decepticons not to mention the predacons aswell, some of us dont need repetition again like i stressed who would want to watch something repetitive?

Ermm, well i dont know this is very subjective i can see all the facial expression even on the first movie especially optimus's worried face, in one scene where he asks sam to come down while looking for the glasses. Bumblebee can speak at the end of the movie he says, "permission to speak sir,i wish to stay with the boy", in the second movie Mikaela asks Sam if Bumblebee's voice is acting up again. Even in the Transformer: The War Within its been revealed that The fallen is the bad ass,the first bad ass decepticon, dont worry that doesnt mean Megatron is just a protege only, he is the current leader anyways. Ermm didnt Ironhide speak in all shots involving him? Well if there are 20 robots fighting each other,its quite hard to give each and everyone of em screen time to intro themselves,IMHO thats what the supplementary novels and past work like series and comic books are for.

Ermm Frenzy has been around since G1 la brader, read the Marvel Transformers, Buster defeats him with a robot suit made by ironhide. Doctor is not dumb he is just merely a tool, more like a ratchet on the decepticon side but smaller. Well choices in a movie is up to the screen script writers, i felt those scenes were nice but you feel otherwise so its truly subjective.

Ermm, not really, dont agree with your notion that they dont have facial expression remember,in the tv series its 2D if there are no expressions in 3D,then there are relatively no expression in 2D. Theres a high detail of expression on all the main characters especially Optimus,Bumblebee,Megatron,Starscream,The twins and all of em. I gave one example above, there are many scenes that potray facial expression but again they are relatively alien robots so i dont think its okay for us to assume they would also developed a set of non verbal expression? hell that'll make them human like no?

This post has been edited by nimrod323: Jun 28 2009, 09:09 PM

what is this macguffin u lot been talking about? it's making me hungry for a cheeseburger..

MacGuffin

Out of all the big summer blockbusters I watched this decade, this is the worst.

Yes, I'm a Transformers fan.

who is the Leo everyone's talking about?

Leo Prime? i found this in google but i dont think he is the one you guys are referring to

LaBeef's annoying college roommate.

the fool that tasered himself after he tasered the guard in the museum. the scene brought the house down (myself included )