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post Jul 14 2009, 05:07 PM

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QUOTE(sphiroth @ Jul 14 2009, 04:22 PM)
Anyone heard of the latest 'ECU' setting for Siemen EMS7000? Someone mentioned about a callback from Proton. unsure.gif
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Nvr heard of it hmm.gif . I wonder setting for what...currently engine not managed that well??

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post Jul 14 2009, 10:03 PM

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QUOTE(eastwest @ Jul 14 2009, 02:00 PM)
I don't understande at all whate you guys are talkinge aboute.... rclxub.gif  rclxub.gif  rclxub.gif  tongue.gif  tongue.gif  tongue.gif
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me too............im so noob..i know how to drive my car fast...and......faster...thts it...
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post Jul 14 2009, 10:57 PM

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QUOTE(sphiroth @ Jul 13 2009, 11:56 AM)
No big deal, just rotate the tyres for even wears. Besides, camber will not always be 0 deg when there's passenger inside the car.
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I have the same issue... First i noticed my car pulling to the left side, naturally my next move was to do alignment...
after not even day it started pulling to left again, though a bit lesser...
then at 10000km i did balancing for all four wheels, rotation, alignment and chamber....
still my car if pulling to the left... need to do something about it... do PESC actually perform alignment?


QUOTE(zenwarlord @ Jul 14 2009, 11:04 AM)
that's why we need piggyback.


Added on July 14, 2009, 11:14 am

The high cam it's all about the lifting duration of intake & exhaust. Only the highcam is not enough to draw power from the engine. Port & Polish, rebore TB, exhaust system, fuel pressure, piggyback or standalone, injectors need to be mod as well.

ECU management = piggyback
Standalone = aftermarket ECU
*** only install 1 of them.

Therefore, if planning to go for piggyback, please get Haltech Interceptor as this is the only 1 can work perfectly with Siemen ECU.
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Ah that makes sense... HiCam usually focuses on increasing the max lift duration...

but i take it there is no mod available to "CPS" the exhaust valves too in the market right...
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post Jul 14 2009, 11:00 PM

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QUOTE(lordragos @ Jul 13 2009, 05:12 PM)
Question: Do we need to show the SC the service booklet to claim for warranty as the SC in BP informed that it's no need...  hmm.gif
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it's probably ok with the SC in BP if you are their regular customer... but according to the t&c, they need the service book for authenticate that you dont violate the warranty t&c...

QUOTE(greddy @ Jul 14 2009, 10:57 PM)
I have the same issue... First i noticed my car pulling to the left side, naturally my next move was to do alignment...
after not even day it started pulling to left again, though a bit lesser...
then at 10000km i did balancing for all four wheels, rotation, alignment and chamber....
still my car if pulling to the left... need to do something about it... do PESC actually perform alignment? 
Ah that makes sense... HiCam usually focuses on increasing the max lift duration...

but i take it there is no mod available to "CPS" the exhaust valves too in the market right...
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i thought it is normal if the car pulling a bit to the left as a safety measure to avoid head on collision if you somehow off from the steering??? but may be not if it's too much...

This post has been edited by mrl: Jul 14 2009, 11:03 PM
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post Jul 14 2009, 11:04 PM

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QUOTE(greddy @ Jul 14 2009, 10:57 PM)
I have the same issue... First i noticed my car pulling to the left side, naturally my next move was to do alignment...
after not even day it started pulling to left again, though a bit lesser...
then at 10000km i did balancing for all four wheels, rotation, alignment and chamber....
still my car if pulling to the left... need to do something about it... do PESC actually perform alignment? 
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Thats alignment problem, not camber.
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post Jul 14 2009, 11:24 PM

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QUOTE(greddy @ Jul 14 2009, 10:57 PM)
I have the same issue... First i noticed my car pulling to the left side, naturally my next move was to do alignment...
after not even day it started pulling to left again, though a bit lesser...
then at 10000km i did balancing for all four wheels, rotation, alignment and chamber....
still my car if pulling to the left... need to do something about it... do PESC actually perform alignment? 

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i think ur car like beyonce very much la.. to the left.. to the left... tongue.gif tongue.gif tongue.gif icon_rolleyes.gif
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post Jul 15 2009, 06:00 AM

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some said its due to our power steering bushes that are giving this small issue as well. this is just hearsay but seems logical because the veering left does come back after the alignment has been done. since day one my steering is not straight. it has always been a little to the left. i need to tilt steering to the right to keep the car straight. It seems the rubber holding the power steering rack is not fully holding the rack in place thus there is a small degree of difference. i might change the steering bush to super pro ones when I go down to australia next trip to get a set + all the anti roll bar bushes.. haha.. now cannot go australia becoz of the H1N1 is very rampant 'down under.' cheers.
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post Jul 15 2009, 08:12 AM

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QUOTE(zenwarlord @ Jul 14 2009, 01:20 PM)
Straight flow is the best for MT "if" u able to withstand the cabin noise lol. Adjustable Fuel Pressure (AFR) is the one that i've mentioned. Fuel rail and injectors are different. Fuel rail is the carriage of fuel to injector, while injector is the part to inject the fuel to combustion chamber.
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Means that i can change fuel injector without changing fuel rail..? Can install any fuel injector or there is a brand that fit campro?

Campro fuel rail is plastic..?
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post Jul 15 2009, 08:37 AM

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QUOTE(jctasoga @ Jul 15 2009, 06:00 AM)
some said its due to our power steering bushes that are giving this small issue as well. this is just hearsay but seems logical because the veering left does come back after the alignment has been done. since day one my steering is not straight. it has always been a little to the left. i need to tilt steering to the right to keep the car straight. It seems the rubber holding the power steering rack is not fully holding the rack in place thus there is a small degree of difference. i might change the steering bush to super pro ones when I go down to australia next trip to get a set + all the anti roll bar bushes.. haha.. now cannot go australia becoz of the H1N1 is very rampant 'down under.' cheers.
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Pulling to left means that when you release your steering while driving, it will go to the left instead of straight. In your case, you can simply go to an accessory shop and ask them to 'realigned' it. They will adjust the steering wheel to make straight when you go straight. I also had this problem when changing to sport steering before (my previous ride).

QUOTE(pearjar @ Jul 15 2009, 08:12 AM)
Means that i can change fuel injector without changing fuel rail..? Can install any fuel injector or there is a brand that fit campro?

Campro fuel rail is plastic..?
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Can. But to fully utilize the 'bigger' fuel injector you need more fuel to be supplied, hence a higher powered fuel pump. Then you need to regulate the fuel flow so add fuel regulator. Then to avoid the fuel rail from cracking, you need a better fuel rail. laugh.gif (correct me if I'm wrong).
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QUOTE(thesurveyor @ Jul 14 2009, 05:07 PM)
Nvr heard of it  hmm.gif  . I wonder setting for what...currently engine not managed that well??
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Nope~ no news on that. But CPSLover did have a few problems with it. I had a few niggles too~
Like a tiny hiccup around 2.8k rpm to 3k rpm on a partial throttle. Haven't got time to get it fixed yet.
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post Jul 15 2009, 10:05 AM

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QUOTE(achmedrauff @ Jul 15 2009, 09:54 AM)
Nope~ no news on that. But CPSLover did have a few problems with it. I had a few niggles too~
Like a tiny hiccup around 2.8k rpm to 3k rpm on a partial throttle. Haven't got time to get it fixed yet.
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Zen also pointed out that my engine got slight drop of power around 3.5k rpm (from my dyno chart).


Added on July 15, 2009, 10:06 am
QUOTE(achmedrauff @ Jul 15 2009, 09:54 AM)
Nope~ no news on that. But CPSLover did have a few problems with it. I had a few niggles too~
Like a tiny hiccup around 2.8k rpm to 3k rpm on a partial throttle. Haven't got time to get it fixed yet.
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Zen also pointed out that my engine got slight drop of power around 3.5k rpm (from my dyno chart).

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post Jul 15 2009, 11:46 AM

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QUOTE(jctasoga @ Jul 15 2009, 06:00 AM)
some said its due to our power steering bushes that are giving this small issue as well. this is just hearsay but seems logical because the veering left does come back after the alignment has been done. since day one my steering is not straight. it has always been a little to the left. i need to tilt steering to the right to keep the car straight. It seems the rubber holding the power steering rack is not fully holding the rack in place thus there is a small degree of difference. i might change the steering bush to super pro ones when I go down to australia next trip to get a set + all the anti roll bar bushes.. haha.. now cannot go australia becoz of the H1N1 is very rampant 'down under.' cheers.
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source for some RPW parts instead, but i'm not sure what's is common between proton n mit's mivec.


Added on July 15, 2009, 12:07 pm
QUOTE(pearjar @ Jul 15 2009, 08:12 AM)
Means that i can change fuel injector without changing fuel rail..? Can install any fuel injector or there is a brand that fit campro?

Campro fuel rail is plastic..?
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I'm not sure about campro fuel rail as I dont own any compro now, perhaps someone can confirm this?

I don't think there is any aftermarket fuel injector that suitable for campro/cps, hopes there will be some 1.8 campro cps release by proton in future and the bigger cc injector can be use.

If u want to use the standard fuel injector with BOT, it can, but only thing u can't go with high boost and i'm doubtful whether can withstand as low as 0.6bar boost as well. For standard injector it uses approx 80% of it capacity with normal fuel pump and fuel regulator, that's y if use high lph fuel pump it will eventually force the injector to run 100% and that will shorten the life span. The worst thing is, ur engine still running lean at low boost.
***Please note this is just asumption, proper study of standard fuel injector, fuel pump lph & fuel regulator is required.


Added on July 15, 2009, 12:08 pm
QUOTE(sphiroth @ Jul 15 2009, 10:05 AM)
Zen also pointed out that my engine got slight drop of power around 3.5k rpm (from my dyno chart).


Added on July 15, 2009, 10:06 am

Zen also pointed out that my engine got slight drop of power around 3.5k rpm (from my dyno chart).
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have u done any dyno after installing LCP?


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post Jul 15 2009, 01:17 PM

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QUOTE(zenwarlord @ Jul 15 2009, 11:46 AM)
I don't think there is any aftermarket fuel injector that suitable for campro/cps, hopes there will be some 1.8 campro cps release by proton in future and the bigger cc injector can be use.

If u want to use the standard fuel injector with BOT, it can, but only thing u can't go with high boost and i'm doubtful whether can withstand as low as 0.6bar boost as well. For standard injector it uses approx 80% of it capacity with normal fuel pump and fuel regulator, that's y if use high lph fuel pump it will eventually force the injector to run 100% and that will shorten the life span. The worst thing is, ur engine still running lean at low boost.
***Please note this is just asumption, proper study of standard fuel injector, fuel pump lph & fuel regulator is required.
Not BOT lah zen sweat.gif Highcam only.... Hope aluminum fuel rail+AFR+ACP already enough... Exhaust system will remain as cannot tahan loud noise... P&P later..
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post Jul 15 2009, 07:22 PM

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QUOTE(pearjar @ Jul 15 2009, 01:17 PM)
Not BOT lah zen sweat.gif Highcam only.... Hope aluminum fuel rail+AFR+ACP already enough... Exhaust system will remain as cannot tahan loud noise... P&P later..
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ohh like that then AFR+ACP can already, no need to mod fuel rail. Btw, more in more out how to use back standard exhaust? need to mod your exhaust system la bro.



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post Jul 15 2009, 07:29 PM

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QUOTE(zenwarlord @ Jul 15 2009, 11:46 AM)
have u done any dyno after installing LCP?
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Not yet. No budget. Maybe all CPS members can sponsor me, RM5/members. laugh.gif
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post Jul 15 2009, 07:31 PM

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QUOTE(sphiroth @ Jul 15 2009, 07:29 PM)
Not yet. No budget. Maybe all CPS members can sponsor me, RM5/members.  laugh.gif
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yea i agree with u....but i already sponsor some to u already lol

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post Jul 15 2009, 07:42 PM

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QUOTE(zenwarlord @ Jul 15 2009, 07:22 PM)
ohh like that then AFR+ACP can already, no need to mod fuel rail. Btw, more in more out how to use back standard exhaust? need to mod your exhaust system la bro.
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Already mod lah biggrin.gif ... Just muffler use s-flow, after market one...
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QUOTE(pearjar @ Jul 15 2009, 07:42 PM)
Already mod lah biggrin.gif ... Just muffler use s-flow, after market one...
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got remove cat con? if yes should be ok already.

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QUOTE(zenwarlord @ Jul 15 2009, 08:05 PM)
got remove cat con? if yes should be ok already.
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Me use 4-2-1 extractor (o2 sensor at 1), trust straight flow bullet and s-flow muffler... So next mod will be brake pad, ACP and AFR/FPR...

p/s: Now in proses apply loan for house.... rclxub.gif After that get baby maybe on february, than can start mod again.... brows.gif
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haha... good luck bro..

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