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 iPhone Data Usage Issues (Maxis, Celcom, DIGI), Usage & Bill diff - High bill charges!

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dinozilla
post Oct 20 2009, 02:23 AM

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jz a word....
if u onli intend to use it for wifi...ipod touch will do...
u don need iphone...
the purpose of iphone is having all in one....
and u can online on the go....

really don see a purpose of owning an iphone if u don intend to hav mobile access at all (not jz wifi), my 2cents.
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post Oct 20 2009, 05:03 PM

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iphone always connect to 3G or EDGE when we go web browsing?anyway we can set just detect wifi around us?
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QUOTE(kakikukaku @ Oct 20 2009, 12:59 AM)
1) if u scared to go online with being charge, enable ur airplane mode during wifi connection.with that ur net its 100% depends on the wireless.however, if u enable airplane mode during surfing, u are not able to receive/make calls, sms n etc as it blocks ur network.

2) jailbreak ur iphne, find a software name bosspref.there is a setting to disable 3g. (this is a proper solution).

im gonna JB soon n sees what happens...
so guyss..any thought??
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I tried no 1, your data still jalan.

no 2, even you off 3g & edge , data also jalan (im using iphone 3g, fw 3.1.2 JB) - the best way - subs to data service smile.gif


QUOTE(loumou @ Oct 20 2009, 05:03 PM)
iphone always connect to 3G or EDGE when we go web browsing?anyway we can set just detect wifi around us?
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turn to airplane mode or... get an ipod smile.gif


Added on October 20, 2009, 5:22 pm
QUOTE(vui_msia @ Oct 19 2009, 11:00 AM)
Little circle is Egde. Both Edge and 3G will costs you a bomb if you have no contract or plan on Data.
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sorry for interruption. to clarify on those who didnt know,

3G sign after your carrier name means you're on 3G network
E for edge
and small o is for GPRS.



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dinozilla
post Oct 20 2009, 06:10 PM

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to some gentlemen out there...

Seriously....do some reading 1st....
at least from here
http://www.apple.com/iphone/how-to/
before u give mislead info to others...


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post Oct 20 2009, 06:30 PM

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By far, the best method is still to put in fake APN information, that will ensure your 3g data is not used..

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post Oct 20 2009, 06:54 PM

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QUOTE(kakikukaku @ Oct 20 2009, 12:59 AM)
i decided to go to maxis service centre at taman tun..after talking to a nice lady there.she mentioned to me, whenever any wireless connection is low, even the signals on the iphne shows 2 bar, it will automatically switch n connect to 3g service to surf the net smoothly. it must be 3 full bar for you not being charged using the wireless.. then i ask her, how bout if i have disconnected the 3g service (remember wat i did on the previous month) n she replied an answer that shocked to me mentioning that, even though u have dscnncted the 3g service, because the phone is 'so' intelligent, it will automatically enable the 3g that has been disconnected and connect to net through the service..so disconnecting ur 3g service is not a solution.thats y we have data package for contract phne (cehh). By the way, i cant see any termination of 3g service for ur accounts since may 2008 (damn you 1st maxis guy. he didnt terminate the 3g)...
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NOT TRUE. once disable, the 3G will not self enable back. It is probably GPRS that is trigger when the wifi signal is low. Can see by the signal 'o' , instead of 3G , besides the carrier logo.


Added on October 20, 2009, 7:08 pm
QUOTE(wayne78 @ Oct 15 2009, 08:18 PM)
3g usage will increase even those u off the edge/3g but it only increase very very little....

i'm on unlimited plan cause 3gb not even enough cause i'm heave user.... in a week i can used up to 4gb that stated in iphone but as we not iphone usage r not accurate....

so for those who din use unlimited plan pls bear in mind always off ur 3g or edge, non-jailbreak iphone user have to becareful...
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4GB / week is ok if you Tethering. Seriously, i find it hard to reach my 30GB of data per month without Tethering.

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post Oct 20 2009, 07:31 PM

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QUOTE(kakikukaku @ Oct 20 2009, 12:59 AM)
yeap truee..

got a cases to share here n wanna ask u guys opinion..

my subline is using iphone.btw its a non-contract 3g phne. n she did online via wifi only.unfortunately maxis still charge on the data usage on the 1st mnth after using the iphone..its bout 150++ n she did not use any 3g connection to go on the net..so i call the customer service at 123..wishing to disconnect the 3g service for the main line n subline...to be safe, she also disable the 3g from the setting of the phne.

ok..life goes on that month.

the 2nd motnh

ok, hrmm when the bill for the 2nd month (2nd month of subline using iphne), the freaking maxis still charge on the data call and its stil bout 130++..
i decided to go to maxis service centre at taman tun..after talking to a nice lady there.she mentioned to me, whenever any wireless connection is low, even the signals on the iphne shows 2 bar, it will automatically switch n connect to 3g service to surf the net smoothly. it must be 3 full bar for you not being charged using the wireless.. then i ask her, how bout if i have disconnected the 3g service (remember wat i did on the previous month) n she replied an answer that shocked to me mentioning that, even though u have dscnncted the 3g service, because the phone is 'so' intelligent, it will automatically enable the 3g that has been disconnected and connect to net through the service..so disconnecting ur 3g service is not a solution.thats y we have data package for contract phne (cehh). By the way, i cant see any termination of 3g service for ur accounts since may 2008 (damn you 1st maxis guy. he didnt terminate the 3g)...

next, i ask the solution..she mentioned to me 2 things :

1) if u scared to go online with being charge, enable ur airplane mode during wifi connection.with that ur net its 100% depends on the wireless.however, if u enable airplane mode during surfing, u are not able to receive/make calls, sms n etc as it blocks ur network.

No la bro mine oredi blacklist my 3g service n oni wifi at home n office... No data being charged to me....dont ask for disable but ask for blaxklist

2) jailbreak ur iphne, find a software name bosspref.there is a setting to disable 3g. (this is a proper solution).

im gonna JB soon n sees what happens...
so guyss..any thought??
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Added on October 20, 2009, 7:35 pm
QUOTE(zwanvedder @ Oct 20 2009, 07:31 PM)

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No la bro mine oredi blacklist my 3g service n oni wifi at home n office... No data being charged to me....dont ask for disable but ask for blaxklist

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post Oct 20 2009, 08:53 PM

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i wanan ask u guys, my plan states free 500MB does it mean i add up total received MB and total sent MB?
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post Oct 20 2009, 09:06 PM

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QUOTE(zwanvedder @ Oct 20 2009, 07:31 PM)

Added on October 20, 2009, 7:35 pm

No la bro mine oredi blacklist my 3g service n oni wifi at home n office... No data being charged to me....dont ask for disable but ask for blaxklist
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what is the point of having a smartphone if there is no 24/7 connection doh.gif ... quite a number of apps require your location to be pin-point, for example when you looking for a petrol station/restaurant/clinic/ bus stop ..etc ...in the vicinity.

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post Oct 20 2009, 11:22 PM

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yeap..true..


but for those who only connects to net via wireless..is there any solution to this prob?
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post Oct 20 2009, 11:56 PM

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@kakikukaku,
tnsai oredi answered ur question. Put in a fake APN or a fake profile to disable data services.

@Mackiddo,
When on earth are U? U have 30GB limit of data usage on your mobile ?! That certainly is a huge amount!
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post Oct 21 2009, 08:48 AM

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QUOTE(tnsai @ Oct 20 2009, 06:30 PM)
By far, the best method is still to put in fake APN information, that will ensure your 3g data is not used..
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i've used this. however i still can see my data counter increasing.
mind u im using fw 3.1.2 with i3gs

QUOTE(zwanvedder @ Oct 20 2009, 07:31 PM)

Added on October 20, 2009, 7:35 pm
No la bro mine oredi blacklist my 3g service n oni wifi at home n office... No data being charged to me....dont ask for disable but ask for blaxklist
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how to blakclist ? if blacklist, later on when we pop up the simkad into another fon and try to make video call can or not ? celcom can do that ?

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post Oct 21 2009, 09:08 AM

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QUOTE(nVidiaFX @ Oct 20 2009, 08:53 PM)
i wanan ask u guys, my plan states free 500MB does it mean i add up total received MB and total sent MB?
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total sent and received.
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post Oct 21 2009, 10:17 AM

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QUOTE(ctzalifah @ Oct 21 2009, 08:48 AM)
i've used this. however i still can see my data counter increasing.
mind u im using fw 3.1.2 with i3gs
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Hmm that is quite weird.

After turning on FakeAPn, can you double check in your

Settings --> General --> Network --> Cellular Data Network ?(If you do not have this menu, it means you need to install the respective IPCC file for your IPhone, else fakeAPN would not work for you)


and see what are the settings for


Cellular Data

APN :

MMS

APN:

if FakeAPn is working correctly you will see fake.unet (for maxis) in both those fields..



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post Oct 21 2009, 01:32 PM

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QUOTE(tinkerbel @ Oct 20 2009, 11:56 PM)
@kakikukaku,
tnsai oredi answered ur question.  Put in a fake APN or a fake profile to disable data services.

@Mackiddo,
When on earth are U?  U have 30GB limit of data usage on your mobile ?! That certainly is a huge amount!
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I'm in Sg. Under corporate users which is heavily subsidised for the phone and data plan. Almost 1/4 of the company employees using iPhone.

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post Oct 21 2009, 05:13 PM

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QUOTE(tnsai @ Oct 20 2009, 06:30 PM)
By far, the best method is still to put in fake APN information, that will ensure your 3g data is not used..
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I thought we turn off the 3G and data roaming, it will not enable the maxis 3G data already, right?
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post Oct 21 2009, 05:42 PM

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QUOTE(ryan_giggs @ Oct 21 2009, 05:13 PM)
I thought we turn off the 3G and data roaming, it will not enable the maxis 3G data already, right?
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It will just redirect itself to use Edge or GPRS.. Remember, the 3G on and off button is there for you to turn off the 3G connection for battery saving, it doesn't turn off the ability to connect online via other protocols.. IPhone being as smart as it is, will kick in to the other available options.. changing the APN settings ensure that even those protocols would not be able to go online.

Give it a try, turn off 3G and attempt to use something that uses internet.. you will see a "E" icon next to your signal bar
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QUOTE(tnsai @ Oct 21 2009, 05:42 PM)
It will just redirect itself to use Edge or GPRS.. Remember, the 3G on and off button is there for you to turn off the 3G connection for battery saving, it doesn't turn off the ability to connect online via other protocols.. IPhone being as smart as it is, will kick in to the other available options.. changing the APN settings ensure that even those protocols would not be able to go online.

Give it a try, turn off 3G and attempt to use something that uses internet.. you will see a "E" icon next to your signal bar
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not just iphone, all phone is....switch to next available protocol...
don ever think onli iphone is smart biggrin.gif

as say...if so worry of using cellular network on iPhone OS, better off use ipod touch...
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@Mackiddo,
But 30GB of data service? Gee with that kinda amount u don't need to bother to connect to Wifi smile.gif

@ryan_giggs,
Switching 3G off doesn't disable data services; it just turns off 3G.
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QUOTE(dinozilla @ Oct 21 2009, 06:33 PM)
not just iphone, all phone is....switch to next available protocol...
don ever think onli iphone is smart  biggrin.gif

as say...if so worry of using cellular network on iPhone OS, better off use ipod touch...
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Hehehe...no ma....i think the charge for data rate is quite expensive for 3G.....that's y plan to cancel the data plan once my contract finish.... tongue.gif


How to change to fake APN? Can teach step by step ah?Will change to fake APN will not impact our phone connectivitiy or software in iphone? hmm.gif


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