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post May 18 2009, 11:10 AM, updated 17y ago

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Went to Sentosa Medical Centra on saturday and saw this project, went to their sales office too (actually they are still finalising the work there), pretty impressive with the location as it nearby to LRT and monorail station.
Also nearby to GHKL, IJN and UKM campus, easy to rent out by targetting docs , students ? hmm.gif

Feedback are most welcomed biggrin.gif

some info from other site
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1) Freehold ( Standard size : 1100 sq ft -- 3R2B no balcony design)
2) Total 3 blocks.-- 2 with 8 units per floor, 1 with 4 units per floor.
3) Floor : 38 floors, 8 units per flr with 4 lifts
4) Price : RM250K up.

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post May 18 2009, 11:36 AM

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post May 18 2009, 11:39 AM

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QUOTE(lipkhin @ May 18 2009, 11:36 AM)
i doubt the price will still be at RM250K onwards when open to public..
if really so cheap then surely will sold out in 1st few days..
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this one is stated at the sales office, and also wat the sales lady told me unsure.gif
and this is the price after a discount for 70k for all units, reason not known tongue.gif
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post May 18 2009, 12:16 PM

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post May 18 2009, 12:23 PM

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QUOTE(lipkhin @ May 18 2009, 12:16 PM)
maybe discount for their own staffs and partners..  brows.gif

so when official launch should be RM320k onwards?
RM320k for a 1100sqft unit still consider cheap for its location..

anyway, please let me know if u got any lobang to get a unit there at discounted price..  notworthy.gif
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they just put up one board showing their original price and the after-70k-discount price, but she cant confirm when will the discount period ends unsure.gif
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post May 18 2009, 12:31 PM

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My take :

1. Location is excellent with LRT and monorail within walking distance.
2. Developer has got quite a decent reputation in Penang and KLCC area.
3. Very reasonably priced.


VERDICT : Buy, Buy, Buy smile.gif
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post May 18 2009, 12:36 PM

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QUOTE(Pai @ May 18 2009, 12:31 PM)
My take :

1. Location is excellent with LRT and monorail within walking distance.
2. Developer has got quite a decent reputation in Penang and KLCC area.
3. Very reasonably priced.
VERDICT : Buy, Buy, Buy smile.gif
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has it been open for bookings yet? pai kor, r u vested on this one? brows.gif
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QUOTE(Pai @ May 18 2009, 12:31 PM)
My take :

1. Location is excellent with LRT and monorail within walking distance.
2. Developer has got quite a decent reputation in Penang and KLCC area.
3. Very reasonably priced.
VERDICT : Buy, Buy, Buy smile.gif
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pai kor your verdict will be confidence boost for many ppl biggrin.gif laugh.gif

QUOTE(babana @ May 18 2009, 12:36 PM)
has it been open for bookings yet? pai kor, r u vested on this one?  brows.gif
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not open for booking yet if not mistaken..


now look at the downside of the project perhaps hmm.gif
1. congested area and very limited parking space (unit only comes with 1 car park)
2. good view blocked by the hotels ?
3. anymore ? unsure.gif
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post May 18 2009, 01:58 PM

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QUOTE(babana @ May 18 2009, 12:36 PM)
has it been open for bookings yet? pai kor, r u vested on this one?  brows.gif
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Not yet...........but very keen. Cant wait for it to be open to public smile.gif
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post May 18 2009, 01:59 PM

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I'm looking forward for the launching soon. Any idea how do I register for the soft launch?
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QUOTE(dEviLs @ May 18 2009, 12:58 PM)
pai kor your verdict will be confidence boost for many ppl  biggrin.gif  laugh.gif
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On that note would like to add that ALL undercon projects will have delivery risk. Prospective buyers should due full due-dilligence on location, developer and future prospects.

Buying something affordable with LRT connectivity............is a no-brainer smile.gif
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post May 18 2009, 02:05 PM

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QUOTE(aramis888 @ May 18 2009, 01:59 PM)
I'm looking forward for the launching soon. Any idea how do I register for the soft launch?
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Just visit their sales office, I did mine there biggrin.gif

QUOTE(Pai @ May 18 2009, 02:02 PM)
On that note would like to add that ALL undercon projects will have delivery risk. Prospective buyers should due full due-dilligence on location, developer and future prospects.

Buying something affordable with LRT connectivity............is a no-brainer  smile.gif
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Buying something affordable with LRT and Monorail connectivity biggrin.gif
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post May 18 2009, 02:06 PM

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Thanks devils. smile.gif
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post May 18 2009, 02:11 PM

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QUOTE(Pai @ May 18 2009, 02:02 PM)
On that note would like to add that ALL undercon projects will have delivery risk. Prospective buyers should due full due-dilligence on location, developer and future prospects.

Buying something affordable with LRT connectivity............is a no-brainer  smile.gif
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Their target completion is within 24months, faster than Zest tongue.gif

QUOTE(aramis888 @ May 18 2009, 02:06 PM)
Thanks devils. smile.gif
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no problem mate biggrin.gif
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post May 18 2009, 02:18 PM

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QUOTE(dEviLs @ May 18 2009, 02:11 PM)
Their target completion is within 24months, faster than Zest tongue.gif
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that might not necessarily be a good thing tongue.gif
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QUOTE(Pai @ May 18 2009, 02:18 PM)
that might not necessarily be a good thing  tongue.gif
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agreed rclxms.gif
hmmm...will drop by the sales office one of these days to check it out. seems like a pretty interesting development i would say...
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QUOTE(Pai @ May 18 2009, 02:18 PM)
that might not necessarily be a good thing  tongue.gif
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Doesnt matter right, Pai? biggrin.gif

they are 2 different location


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QUOTE(aramis888 @ May 18 2009, 02:30 PM)
Doesnt matter right, Pai?  biggrin.gif

they are 2 different location
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It matters, and it could be a six-figure gain difference...... smile.gif

If Im a Titiwangsa Sentral owner, I'd rather my property delivered to me in 5 years time tongue.gif
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post May 18 2009, 02:39 PM

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sorry off topic
i just saw this on EPF website
EPF Withdrawal to purchase a second house is allowed after the first house purchased utilizing EPF has been sold or disposal of ownership of property has taken place. Disposal of ownership refers to 'loss of ownership of the first house owned by you either due to auction, surrender of property by court order, transfer of ownership because of love and affection, destruction of house due to natural disaster, abandoned housing project or cancellation of purchase'.
http://www.kwsp.gov.my/index.php?ch=p2memb...rawtype&ac=1850

my current house I did not utilise my EPF 2nd account, so I can still use my 2nd acc to pay for down payment ? anyone can confirm ?
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QUOTE(dEviLs @ May 18 2009, 02:39 PM)

my current house I did not utilise my EPF 2nd account, so I can still use my 2nd acc to pay for down payment ? anyone can confirm ?
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Yes u can coz i did the same for my 2nd prop smile.gif
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QUOTE(Pai @ May 18 2009, 02:41 PM)
Yes u can coz i did the same for my 2nd prop  smile.gif
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thanks for the promtly reply Pai biggrin.gif

But i have yet to settle my loan for the first prop, does it matter ?
Thanks again smile.gif
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post May 18 2009, 03:35 PM

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Thanks guys biggrin.gif

back to the project, one big concern is that this location is really a rundown place surrounded by old buildings unsure.gif
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post May 18 2009, 04:28 PM

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Where is their sales office? When they will open the unit for booking?
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post May 19 2009, 02:29 PM

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i'm assuming the sales office is at the site itself. anyone knows what time it opens its doors till? thought of heading there after work today...

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post May 19 2009, 02:54 PM

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the sales office is right next to the site, and next to the hotel too
not sure what is their operating hour though...
oh well there will be a night market today at that area biggrin.gif

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eh oh yar, saw a forumner posting abt it on the other forum! thks for reminding devils, think i'll postpone my visit to tmw then coz it'll be super jam tonite with the might market there!
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http://wikimapia.org/12681753/Titiwangsa-Sentral
http://maps.google.com/?ie=UTF8&ll=3.17224...006909&t=h&z=17
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went to the sales office during lunch time
the sales lady told me 50% were booked by internal parties and business associates (most of the units from level15 are gone)
there were a few lucky one who booked that came just now, one guy even booked 3 units
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just back from the sales office. sales rep told me 60% of units for block A are all gone. all kl view units frm level 11 and above are habis whereas for pool / titiwangsa view, all units from level 20 and below are botak.

bookings only reserved to VVIPs now. i was told to sign a form to register for them to call me when it'll be launched. tentative launch date is next week. they'll contact ppl on a 1st come 1st served basis, means if devils signed the form during lunch time this afternoon n me at 5pm, they'll call devils 1st. so to the interested parties, better go to the sales office n sign up quickly, else u might not have a chance to parang here!!

looking at the speed they're selling (10% and 5 floors within 1/2 day - comparing to the time devils went and me), what more can i say abt this project?! brows.gif rclxms.gif
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@babana

Do you notice any operating hour of their sales office? Any phone number available?

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QUOTE(Putraskyline @ May 20 2009, 09:55 PM)
@babana

Do you notice any operating hour of their sales office? Any phone number available?
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phone number of the sales office is 03-4045 7000

opening hrs is as follows:
mon - fri: 9am - 6pm
sat: 9am - 1pm (by appointment only, according to the sales rep)
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QUOTE(babana @ May 20 2009, 09:21 PM)
just back from the sales office. sales rep told me 60% of units for block A are all gone. all kl view units frm level 11 and above are habis whereas for pool / titiwangsa view, all units from level 20 and below are botak.

bookings only reserved to VVIPs now. i was told to sign a form to register for them to call me when it'll be launched. tentative launch date is next week. they'll contact ppl on a 1st come 1st served basis, means if devils signed the form during lunch time this afternoon n me at 5pm, they'll call devils 1st. so to the interested parties, better go to the sales office n sign up quickly, else u might not have a chance to parang here!!

looking at the speed they're selling (10% and 5 floors within 1/2 day - comparing to the time devils went and me), what more can i say abt this project?!  brows.gif  rclxms.gif
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that was fast blink.gif

Babana, after Zest, now this Titiwangsa Sentral? notworthy.gif
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QUOTE(Pai @ May 21 2009, 12:18 AM)
that was fast  blink.gif

Babana, after Zest, now this Titiwangsa Sentral?  notworthy.gif
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haha pai kor, i'm super small fry only la compared to u n the others. but similar to most of u guys here, i see this to be a BUY! BUY! BUY! project even though the initial mths after VP will be quite competitive selling or renting it out due to the vast number of units purchased by investors.

say if i get a unit now at RM260k, 10/90 is RM26k and nothing else throughout constrcution period. if i sell for only RM300k immediately (very very conservative estimation, considering the fact that price for block B starts from RM310k) upon VP, i would still untung here. so y put money in FD when u can put it in Titiwangsa Sentral...hahaha!

yea, this purchase is coming only a couple of mths frm zest...dunno if the bank will approve my loan onot also! whistling.gif

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QUOTE(babana @ May 21 2009, 10:17 AM)
haha pai kor, i'm super small fry only la compared to u n the others. but similar to most of u guys here, i see this to be a BUY! BUY! BUY! project even though the initial mths after VP will be quite competitive selling or renting it out due to the vast number of units purchased by investors.

say if i get a unit now at RM260k, 10/90 is RM26k and nothing else throughout constrcution period. if i sell for only RM300k immediately (very very conservative estimation, considering the fact that price for block B starts from RM310k) upon VP, i would still untung here. so y put money in FD when u can put it in Titiwangsa Sentral...hahaha!

yea, this purchase is coming only a couple of mths frm zest...dunno if the bank will approve my loan onot also!  whistling.gif
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lol me too donno if bank will approve my loan tongue.gif
that also if manage to get 1 unit

btw did you also see the board next to the selling price, there stated another 10k discount, when i ask the sales girl she told me that's on top of the 70k discount hmm.gif
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QUOTE(dEviLs @ May 21 2009, 10:23 AM)
lol me too donno if bank will approve my loan tongue.gif
that also if manage to get 1 unit

btw did you also see the board next to the selling price, there stated another 10k discount, when i ask the sales girl she told me that's on top of the 70k discount hmm.gif
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haha, i asked the sales rep the exact same question but she replied everything there is just indicative only and subject to revision. am not putting much hopes on the RM10k though but if it really happens, that'll definitely be even better! rclxms.gif

anyway, do note that if u've paid the 10% d/p n u're unable to obtain the loan, they'll forfeit 1% of the d/p n return only 9% to u. basically, RM2k+ will be burnt!

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QUOTE(babana @ May 21 2009, 10:27 AM)
haha, i asked the sales rep the exact same question but she replied everything there is just indicative only and subject to revision. am not putting much hopes on the RM10k though but if it really happens, that'll definitely be even better!  rclxms.gif

anyway, do note that if u've paid the 10% d/p n u're unable to obtain the loan, they'll forfeit 1% of the d/p n return only 9% to u. basically, RM2k+ will be burnt!
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ouch 2k+ sweat.gif
maybe a joint-name application will be easier hmm.gif

been going too far as if already got a unit lol sweat.gif

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QUOTE(babana @ May 21 2009, 10:17 AM)
haha pai kor, i'm super small fry only la compared to u n the others. but similar to most of u guys here, i see this to be a BUY! BUY! BUY! project even though the initial mths after VP will be quite competitive selling or renting it out due to the vast number of units purchased by investors.

say if i get a unit now at RM260k, 10/90 is RM26k and nothing else throughout constrcution period. if i sell for only RM300k immediately (very very conservative estimation, considering the fact that price for block B starts from RM310k) upon VP, i would still untung here. so y put money in FD when u can put it in Titiwangsa Sentral...hahaha!

yea, this purchase is coming only a couple of mths frm zest...dunno if the bank will approve my loan onot also!  whistling.gif
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like u, im a small fly too... tongue.gif

anyway, had the same thoughts as you. This one is a super value buy, provided I could get my hands on it. Have to pray hard...... wink.gif
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to those who are interested in this project, block A has been SOLD OUT in 3 days...n even before soft launch rclxub.gif
block B is still available, with prices ranging from RM310k onwards...
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Babana, u feel that blok B buyers can still make $$$ at entry cost of 310k?
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QUOTE(babana @ May 22 2009, 11:57 AM)
to those who are interested in this project, block A has been SOLD OUT in 3 days...n even before soft launch  rclxub.gif
block B is still available, with prices ranging from RM310k onwards...
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You manage to get Block A unit or not? I have call their office and their representative said will call me when they launch. And now it has been sold out rclxub.gif . This representative are lying to me because she said, many unit will be open for booking. mad.gif
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I posted this same post in another forum thread related to Titiwangsa Sentral - just to share with you all:

We visited the show unit yesterday afternoon.

One of the sales person was discussing with her "clients" (in front of me) about their choice of units, when to make payment and sign SPA, photostating their ICs... then when I asked her (after I stood there as if I'm invisible for 20 mins), she said "ohh it's not launched yet"... LYING right under my nose.

Meanwhile another lady who's working there told me that this "phenomenon" (of internal selling) is not a direction from their penang main office (I have no way to verify that). But another main info that came from her (again no verification) is that block B may be entirely sold to another company.

Disclaimer: All above info are "hearsay" that I got from my visit. But yeah I agree, we have 2 choices: boycott or go there before the sunrise on the launching day.
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Does anyone know the current rental surrounding the area and what is the best guess on the future rental and capital appreciation of this property ?
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QUOTE(Putraskyline @ May 23 2009, 09:54 AM)
You manage to get Block A unit or not? I have call their office and their representative said will call me when they launch. And now it has been sold out  rclxub.gif . This representative are lying to me because she said, many unit will be open for booking. mad.gif
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QUOTE(cchewhoong @ May 23 2009, 03:03 PM)
One of the sales person was discussing with her "clients" (in front of me) about their choice of units, when to make payment and sign SPA, photostating their ICs... then when I asked her (after I stood there as if I'm invisible for 20 mins), she said "ohh it's not launched yet"... LYING right under my nose.

Disclaimer: All above info are "hearsay" that I got from my visit. But yeah I agree, we have 2 choices: boycott or go there before the sunrise on the launching day.
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Its not lying, they really have not even launch this project officially. Currently booking is open to their own staff and associates only. The "client" u saw is probably an associate or someone who knows the senior guy from developer. Welcome to the real world sad.gif

With regards of this project, the last thing I'll do is to boycott them......... smile.gif
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QUOTE(Pai @ May 23 2009, 05:57 PM)
Its not lying, they really have not even launch this project officially. Currently booking is open to their own staff and associates only. The "client" u saw is probably an associate or someone who knows the senior guy from developer. Welcome to the real world  sad.gif

With regards of this project, the last thing I'll do is to boycott them......... smile.gif
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Pai brother...

may i know how many property you had own so far? Would like to learn from you how to manage and getting a valuable property smile.gif
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QUOTE(yikjaan @ May 23 2009, 06:09 PM)
Pai brother...

may i know how many property you had own so far? Would like to learn from you how to manage and getting a valuable property smile.gif
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Im a small ciku with a small portfollio, there r many other taikors here with portfollio's 3-5 times of mine, SERIOUSLY wink.gif


Back to TS, IF blok A is completely gone, I'll pray hard that blok B will not be sold on en-bloc basis n wil be opened to public instead *fingers crossed*
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Maybe I should have a "part-time" job in an "associate" firm... property gets snapped up all the time... the best slices of the cake too.
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QUOTE(Pai @ May 23 2009, 05:57 PM)
Its not lying, they really have not even launch this project officially. Currently booking is open to their own staff and associates only. The "client" u saw is probably an associate or someone who knows the senior guy from developer. Welcome to the real world  sad.gif

With regards of this project, the last thing I'll do is to boycott them......... smile.gif
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Are you still interest with this property Pai?


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QUOTE(ykltpm @ May 23 2009, 05:29 PM)
Does anyone know the current rental surrounding the area and what is the best guess on the future rental and capital appreciation of this property ?
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From wha I search on iproperty pages, Vistana residence rental vary from 1.5k to 2.4k.

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QUOTE(Putraskyline @ May 23 2009, 11:54 PM)
Are you still interest with this property Pai?
For GREAT buys, I'm always interested............ tongue.gif


this Sentral should trumps vistana's rental once its completed. How much is this Vistana going for now?
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QUOTE(Pai @ May 24 2009, 03:14 PM)
For GREAT buys, I'm always interested............  tongue.gif
this Sentral should trumps vistana's rental once its completed. How much is this Vistana going for now?
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Sorry Putra,

What about selling prices? Rental seems good though for a super old condo.
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Sorry Putra,

What about selling prices? Rental seems good though for a super old condo.
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QUOTE(Pai @ May 24 2009, 03:14 PM)
For GREAT buys, I'm always interested............  tongue.gif
this Sentral should trumps vistana's rental once its completed. How much is this Vistana going for now?
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Pai, for the block B at 310k starting price, if they do open for public, i think its still do-able. What do you think?
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Babana, u feel that blok B buyers can still make $$$ at entry cost of 310k?
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similar to aramis, i reckon its still do-able...although the margin is lesser compared to block A. would still be keen to pop into the sales office to have a look but don't think i would camp overnight for a unit there at 310k onwards. fingers crossed dat block B wun be sold en-bloc n just hope they have blocked off several floors of block A for sale upon launching. else its wasting my effort researching abt this project, going to the sales office several times but end up its only reserved to 'staffs n business associates'... sweat.gif

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Aramis n Babana, i agree with you guys smile.gif
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I think you should do some research on the area before committing to buy. Try circling the area at night especially on Tuesday.

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I think you should do some research on the area before committing to buy. Try circling the area at night especially on Tuesday.
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Any updates on booking? Their agent didn't call me yet.
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So do I..no magic call from them yet..i guess it's as good as over sad.gif
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V disappointed with the show unit. 1'x2' floor tiles for living hall, small kitchen with no wall tiles but louvre window, masterbedroom with small bathtub.
Suppose to sign S&P today, but change my mind now. I doubt the rental can go for RM1500 and capital appreciation of max RM320000 after completion for the current RM260000 type.
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QUOTE(ykltpm @ May 28 2009, 03:06 PM)
V disappointed with the show unit. 1'x2' floor tiles for living hall, small kitchen with no wall tiles but louvre window, masterbedroom with small bathtub.
Suppose to sign S&P today, but change my mind now. I doubt the rental can go for RM1500 and capital appreciation of max RM320000 after completion for the current RM260000 type.
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V disappointed with the show unit. 1'x2' floor tiles for living hall, small kitchen with no wall tiles but louvre window, masterbedroom with small bathtub.
Suppose to sign S&P today, but change my mind now. I doubt the rental can go for RM1500 and capital appreciation of max RM320000 after completion for the current RM260000 type.
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Any elaboration on that part?
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V disappointed with the show unit. 1'x2' floor tiles for living hall, small kitchen with no wall tiles but louvre window, masterbedroom with small bathtub.
Suppose to sign S&P today, but change my mind now. I doubt the rental can go for RM1500 and capital appreciation of max RM320000 after completion for the current RM260000 type.
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boss, pls PM me the details, very interested to take the unit off your hAnd smile.gif
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boss, pls PM me the details, very interested to take the unit off your hAnd smile.gif
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boss, pls PM me the details, very interested to take the unit off your hAnd smile.gif
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haha, still havent heard anything from ykltpm since i posted on the thread yesterday. maybe he's waiting to c who's offering higher $$$ bawah meja tongue.gif
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he offered me already!! thumbup.gif thumbup.gif

hahahah..j/k. tongue.gif
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Sorry buddies ! No point to tell you all the unit number as the sales girl told me that the number may still not be confirmed even on the day of signing SPA.
This is also one of the reasons why I am pissed off.
During my 1st visit, I was asked to select 3 units just in case 2 of the units were not available. One week later when I called them, I was told to choose another unit as the previous 3 been taken up. So, I gave them another choice. Last week, I went over to the sales office to confirm my SPA appointment and to view the show unit, but i was told again the unit number may not be confirmed even on the day of signing SPA. What a nonsense !
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Hi Guys,
I am new here so appreciate all the advice icon_question.gif .
From what i see the developer is indeed chaotic ... everyone there is like buying vegetable so they also like selling vegetable rclxub.gif

Anyway, I have also confirmed a unit and hope that this investment is sound.
Last check with them, Block A is 'sold out' but more like 'booked out' lar. The 10K discount is for first 300 early birds ONLY.

Anyone else confirmed your purchase ?
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QUOTE(ykltpm @ May 29 2009, 10:19 AM)
Sorry buddies ! No point to tell you all the unit number as the sales girl told me that the number may still not be confirmed even on the day of signing SPA.
This is also one of the reasons why I am pissed off.
During my 1st visit, I was asked to select 3 units just in case 2 of the units were not available. One week later when I called them, I was told to choose another unit as the previous 3 been taken up. So, I gave them another choice. Last week, I went over to the sales office to confirm my SPA appointment and to view the show unit, but i was told again the unit number may not be confirmed even on the day of signing SPA. What a nonsense !
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your unit number will be in the SPA, how can't it not be confirmed by then?

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QUOTE(aramis888 @ May 29 2009, 10:02 AM)
he offered me already!!  thumbup.gif  thumbup.gif

hahahah..j/k.  tongue.gif
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haha aramis...u're vested in this project already right?
hentamed berapa biji? brows.gif

should let small frys like me have a chance in reaping some comfy returns too!
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QUOTE(a6meister @ May 29 2009, 09:44 AM)
Pai, u so confidence with this high-rise ? no more units left from developer ? I have not seen it yet, since you so confidence, i think i should go an take a look. anyone want to join ?
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The pricing for this project is quite reasonable, only drawback is the developer's questionable ethics, rookiness and perhaps workmanship.

Definitely worth a look wink.gif


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QUOTE(ykltpm @ May 29 2009, 10:19 AM)
Sorry buddies ! No point to tell you all the unit number as the sales girl told me that the number may still not be confirmed even on the day of signing SPA.
This is also one of the reasons why I am pissed off.
During my 1st visit, I was asked to select 3 units just in case 2 of the units were not available. One week later when I called them, I was told to choose another unit as the previous 3 been taken up. So, I gave them another choice. Last week, I went over to the sales office to confirm my SPA appointment and to view the show unit, but i was told again the unit number may not be confirmed even on the day of signing SPA. What a nonsense !
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chief, u cant transfer a unit that u dont have, right? hmm.gif

Anyway, dont need the unit number oso, as long as they have reserved a unit for you, Im keen to do business smile.gif

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QUOTE(Pai @ May 29 2009, 11:49 AM)
The pricing for this project is quite reasonable, only drawback is the developer's questionable ethics, rookiness and perhaps workmanship.

Definitely worth a look  wink.gif


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chief, u cant transfer a unit that u dont have, right?  hmm.gif

Anyway, dont need the unit number oso, as long as they have reserved a unit for you, Im keen to do business  smile.gif
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Problem now is most likely no more units are left for layman like me sad.gif
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QUOTE(Pai @ May 29 2009, 11:49 AM)
The pricing for this project is quite reasonable, only drawback is the developer's questionable ethics, rookiness and perhaps workmanship.

Definitely worth a look  wink.gif


Added on May 29, 2009, 11:54 am
chief, u cant transfer a unit that u dont have, right?  hmm.gif

Anyway, dont need the unit number oso, as long as they have reserved a unit for you, Im keen to do business  smile.gif
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Any name change should be done prior to S&P, they told me that the developer will forfeit your free car park if you transfer after signing of S&P and all legal fees to be covered on your own.

Anyway, how much $$$ bawah meja would you guys willing to pay for a unit ? brows.gif
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Problem now is most likely no more units are left for layman like me sad.gif
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Blok B should come soon....... hmm.gif
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Blok B should come soon.......  hmm.gif
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It will come soon, but again is it for public or will "booked out" by their associates?
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Blok B should come soon.......  hmm.gif
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QUOTE(daz55 @ May 29 2009, 12:00 PM)
Any name change should be done prior to S&P,  they told me that the developer will forfeit your free car park if you transfer after signing of S&P and all legal fees to be covered on your own.

Anyway,  how much $$$ bawah meja would you guys willing to pay for a unit ? brows.gif
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bro, u got units to release if we *ehem ehem*? brows.gif
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bro, u got units to release if we *ehem ehem*?  brows.gif
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QUOTE(daz55 @ May 29 2009, 12:00 PM)
Any name change should be done prior to S&P,  they told me that the developer will forfeit your free car park if you transfer after signing of S&P and all legal fees to be covered on your own.

Anyway,  how much $$$ bawah meja would you guys willing to pay for a unit ? brows.gif
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chief, im keen, let me know your offer..... smile.gif
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chief, im keen, let me know your offer..... smile.gif
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chief, im keen, let me know your offer..... smile.gif
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where is the location? is it near to Sentul Boulevard? hmm.gif coz i always pass by but never really observe the condo construction name doh.gif
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where is the location? is it near to Sentul Boulevard?  hmm.gif  coz i always pass by but never really observe the condo construction name  doh.gif
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in front of Sentosa Hospital.

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Am keen. But the way they handle things made me kinda pissed off.
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Am keen. But the way they handle things made me kinda pissed off.
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Whats the progress now? I'm out for vacation for 1 weeks and dunno whether sales office call me or not.
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Whats the progress now? I'm out for vacation for 1 weeks and dunno whether sales office call me or not.
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everything sold out. No more units avaliable.
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better they close the show house la..
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everything sold out. No more units avaliable.
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wonder how much the last units in blok B was sold for.......... hmm.gif
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wonder how much the last units in blok B was sold for.......... hmm.gif
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I went there on wednesday, they say still got bumi lots available?? I'm confused also...
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maybe those will be the only lots available during official launching....
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Do you know when their official launching?
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Apparently HLB has maxed out their maximum loan cap for this project, so those who have applied to HLB will have to wait long-long for approval.

HLB now officilally is the worst mortgage bank in my books

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hey guys, a fren of mine would like to let go 1 of his 2 units. Any one interested? initially he booked 2. 1 is Block A, another 1 is Block B. now he deciding which to let go...
PM me if interested.
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QUOTE(Oaks @ Jun 15 2009, 10:34 PM)
hey guys, a fren of mine would like to let go 1 of his 2 units. Any one interested? initially he booked 2. 1 is Block A, another 1 is Block B. now he deciding which to let go...
PM me if interested.
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Im guessing your fren is unable to secure the necessary financing required?

Think there will be more to follow....... tongue.gif
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QUOTE(Oaks @ Jun 15 2009, 10:34 PM)
hey guys, a fren of mine would like to let go 1 of his 2 units. Any one interested? initially he booked 2. 1 is Block A, another 1 is Block B. now he deciding which to let go...
PM me if interested.
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Let go block A of course! tongue.gif

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sorry. i dont know. Why not give them a call.
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Honestly, I never enter this forum since i lost my laptop. I guess somebody posted the above info without my knowledge. I dun have units to sell. I was robbed on 31 Mar 09. I also lost my wallet, phone, camera and got cut on my right hand. If whoever got my laptop, pls sell me the info of the nasty guys. (I dun want the laptop) I only want justice and my IC back.
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QUOTE(Oaks @ Jun 17 2009, 06:58 PM)
Honestly, I never enter this forum since i lost my laptop. I guess somebody posted the above info without my knowledge. I dun have units to sell. I was robbed on 31 Mar 09. I also lost my wallet, phone, camera and got cut on my right hand. If whoever got my laptop, pls sell me the info of the nasty guys. (I dun want the laptop) I only want justice and my IC back.
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Har?? Like that also can? rclxub.gif
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Anyone interested in TS Block B unit? my friend want to let go his unit. Pls PM if interested.



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Prime location with such price ... EXECEELLEEEENT
Actually i already register name with the developer quite long time ago..
but no one is calling .. too bad.. and from this forum only i know that is almost sold out..


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Prime location with such price ... EXECEELLEEEENT
Actually i already register name with the developer quite long time ago..
but no one is calling .. too bad.. and from this forum only i know that is almost sold out..
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Remove the word "almost"

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Prime location with such price ... EXECEELLEEEENT
Actually i already register name with the developer quite long time ago..
but no one is calling .. too bad.. and from this forum only i know that is almost sold out..
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titiwangsa which area?if near the monorail/star lrt area...isnt it an area which subject to flood when there is downpour?hmmm
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titiwangsa which area?if near the monorail/star lrt area...isnt it an area which subject to flood when there is downpour?hmmm
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http://wikimapia.org/#lat=3.1713522&lon=10...angsa%20sentral

Anymore flooding after the completion of SMART tunnel?
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http://wikimapia.org/#lat=3.1713522&lon=10...angsa%20sentral

Anymore flooding after the completion of SMART tunnel?
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the last time i remembered a flood was back in mid 2007..the basement car park of sentosa hospital and ambank building turned into a huge water tank...
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QUOTE(Backkom @ Jul 10 2009, 09:29 AM)
I see... better hope that my parking lot is located at higher floors  tongue.gif
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Dear TS owners - the progress billing is out!
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Dear TS owners - the progress billing is out!
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mmm, out already?! havent received mine yet. aih, there goes another 10% funds into the water...dint manage to get 90% here... sad.gif
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wonder when is the 3rd billing for block B..tak sabar mau fork out 40k..haiz..so slow not yet naik also..
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so slow not yet naik also.. -- relax la. current market value go up 100K already as seen from the charts
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yup ive seen the chart the 1st week before raya for 2nd 10%..there are still some units for sale..heard from the lawyer block B only 90+ ppl sign S&P ..that means..bumi lot are still empty!
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how many from this forum buy here?
sian, this thread not hot like ZEST thread,
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how many from this forum buy here?
sian, this thread not hot like ZEST thread,
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Because many of the buyers are talking here - http://www.myrealestate.com.my/viewtopic.php?t=8349
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haha. ok. too many forums .wah 81 pages already

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haha. ok.  too many forums .wah 81 pages already
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yup ive seen the chart the 1st week before raya for 2nd 10%..there are still some units for sale..heard from the lawyer block B only 90+ ppl sign S&P ..that means..bumi lot are still empty!
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My friend went there and checked all unit sold out dy. emm... :hmm anyone can confirm if there are any unit still available?
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My friend went there and checked all unit sold out dy. emm... :hmm anyone can confirm if there are any unit still available?
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So far what we hear is everything sold out...
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how many from this forum buy here?
sian, this thread not hot like ZEST thread,
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I am a proud owner of Block A 29th Floor. biggrin.gif
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Hi all, this is flat can jalan meh ?



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Hi all, this is flat can jalan meh ?
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Hi all, this is flat can jalan meh ?
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Har? What is flat and can jalan?
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ha, i mean this a low cost flat, no balcony design can bring returns meh ? blush.gif
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ha, i mean this a low cost flat, no balcony design can bring returns meh ? blush.gif
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OMG, TS is a low-cost flat.. i made a big mistake, even though i've made rm100k paper gain..
i knew i should have bought a leasehold condo in s alam..
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OMG, TS is a low-cost flat.. i made a big mistake, even though i've made rm100k paper gain..
i knew i should have bought a leasehold condo in s alam..
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betul ka, low cost flat ?
oh, that s.alam (leasehold not worth it lah)


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you have made the right move by not purchasing a unit in TS, it sure looks like a low cost flat.
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Hehe yeah no complaints about that, the 100k paper gain certainly can help pay off 2 low cost flats!

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pls ignore all updates here & life move on. icon_rolleyes.gif


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construction, just only 4 or 5th floor, u guys have pretty good imagination.
Are u guys pissed cos u missed out?
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Sorry guys, I left my laptop in office sending some Wh4 chick out &
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pls ignore all updates here & life move on. icon_rolleyes.gif
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Hehe yeah no complaints about that, the 100k paper gain certainly can help us pay off 2 low cost flats!
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want to let go my unit while under-construction, any Malaysian or middle eastern guy reading this can contact me. Not that high foor.

around 400k. best give cash, rclxms.gif

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want to let go my unit while under-construction, any Malaysian or middle eastern guy reading this can contact me. Not that high foor.

around 400k. best give cash, rclxms.gif
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Can ah hmm.gif i tot sign SNP liao den hav to wait until completion (after VP) den only can sell laugh.gif
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can sell now. ask developer already
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I see... good luck in ur selling then
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just went sales office..mana boleh jual b4 complete..they will tarik blk if loan not approve..even cash buyer cant transfer..tried twice dude ..how come you can? Block B going to 8th floor already..price for 8th floor now around 380++k ..if this price keep on coming buyers will senyum all the way..
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how much cash buyer offer u dude..

btw, block B is the more expensive or cheaper one?
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how much cash buyer offer u dude..

btw, block B is the more expensive or cheaper one?
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Block B is the more expensive one...
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i went to the site 2days ago.found out they are going to break down the showroom.How am i going to pay 3rd billing?? dont think my mum agree to send over to penang the bank draft..its 15% from actualy price..

any other cash buyer know where is their next office?
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anyone wan 2 let go their booking,PM me..
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now is going minimum 400k boss.
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why u all want to buy titiwangsa sentral subsales?
is it for own stay or future upside?
just curious. brows.gif

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re-sale price drop to 380k ?

what is the reason that price drop?

few months back ppl selling at least 410k
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re-sale price drop to 380k ?

what is the reason that price drop?

few months back ppl selling at least 410k
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u mean will drop more o increase ? haha

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Will get a better price one. Be patient.
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Called up a fe agents and was told by them that those are "bumi" lots and smaller in size rclxub.gif rclxub.gif
rclxub.gif I thought they only have 1 size. Are these agents using tactic like this to attract people to call? Maybe there is no unit below RM400k. My cousin just sold his not too long ago his unit at 7th floor for RM410k. I am still keeping mine at 6th floor facing the pool. Should I sell now or wait for VP? Tq
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QUOTE(bigmamma @ Jan 18 2011, 09:42 AM)
Called up a fe agents and was told by them that those are "bumi" lots and smaller in size rclxub.gif  rclxub.gif
rclxub.gif I thought they only have 1 size. Are these agents using tactic like this to attract people to call? Maybe there is no unit below RM400k. My cousin just sold his not too long ago his unit at 7th floor for RM410k. I am still keeping mine at 6th floor facing the pool. Should I sell now or wait for VP? Tq
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if i'm not mistaken, block B units are 60 sqf larger at 1160 sqf whereas block A units are 1100 sqf...correct me if i'm wrong.
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inform by agent next month will VP.
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Anyone has the latest photos? No time go there
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Agent now rm420k onwards low floor

Pai. How much u reckon this condo can up up till?
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QUOTE(Pai @ Mar 23 2011, 10:26 AM)
Anyone looking to sell their units and wants to save on agent fees pls PM me details of your units. Got a fren looking to buy a unit there.

Cheers  wink.gif
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biggrin.gif ya, i got a unit want to sale rm 410k, cheap.tis few day need to confirm it, seller will increase the price after this week . ur fren want ?im agent here.seriously.
my ctc 013 6387555 pls ctc me if ur fren want.
thankx a lot .


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QUOTE(bigmamma @ Jan 18 2011, 09:42 AM)
Called up a fe agents and was told by them that those are "bumi" lots and smaller in size rclxub.gif  rclxub.gif
rclxub.gif I thought they only have 1 size. Are these agents using tactic like this to attract people to call? Maybe there is no unit below RM400k. My cousin just sold his not too long ago his unit at 7th floor for RM410k. I am still keeping mine at 6th floor facing the pool. Should I sell now or wait for VP? Tq
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im titiwangsa agent alex here,i got buyer want invest in titiwangsa sentral. u interested to sale ?
i already sold 15 unit in titiwangsa sentral.

my ctc 013 6387555 u can call for more inform.tq

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When will vp?
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very hot... owner laugh as double value now
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Titiwangsa Sentral is hot now...more agent/potential investor is focusing on it (pls check iproperty.com.my), be patient and it will go up very fast as long you hold it longer. I think KL freehold property (near train station) worth more than RM380/sf... compare to some newer launching....
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Titiwangsa Sentral is hot now...more agent/potential investor is focusing on it (pls check iproperty.com.my), be patient and it will go up very fast as long you hold it longer. I think KL freehold property (near train station) worth more than RM380/sf... compare to some newer launching....
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Wait for VP..by then price will be going down further. all 1000 units will be on sale by that time!!
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Wait for VP..by then price will be going down further. all 1000 units will be on sale by that time!!
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this obviously doesnt sound good....
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this obviously doesnt sound good....
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How many units again? I forgot myself
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few agent called for past 2 days, claimed that cheque on hand to buy at RM430k for 1.1k sf. i reckon price will increase after VP. be patience. price will increase further if you hold longer. good luck!
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So any units done below 400k?

What is the rental expectation for TS? I will expect around 2k no?
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QUOTE(1ullaby @ Apr 10 2011, 11:48 AM)
So any units done below 400k?

What is the rental expectation for TS? I will expect around 2k no?
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My thoughts on the MEDIAN rental pricing for TS :

Basic - 1.8k to 2.1k

Partly furnished - 2.2k to 2.5k

Fully furnished - 2.5k to 3.5k.



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Haha Pai sifu, is your fren looking or you are looking for another unit to purchase? hehe brows.gif
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Actually my friend is also looking to buy. Offer 390k and above for 10th floor and above. Serious seller PM me smile.gif


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QUOTE(Pai @ Apr 10 2011, 12:31 PM)
My thoughts on the MEDIAN rental pricing for TS :

Basic - 1.8k to 2.1k

Partly furnished - 2.2k to 2.5k

Fully furnished - 2.5k to 3.5k.
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TS really is great buy for first purchasers smile.gif

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Haha Pai sifu, is your fren looking or you are looking for another unit to purchase? hehe brows.gif
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sorry guys for those who pm me. my account blocked by lowyat staff for spamming. emailed them no reply.

Pai chief, sorry was outstation Penang, when u called.
400k no go. 400k after deduct all the fees. earn peanuts.
got 410K offer also.

keeping for the moment... this got potential like Sri Maya



however since need to roll,
high floor to let go 38th floor at 470K agent, rm480 agent.
47 deposit needed. upfront. non-refundable.

16th floor rm430k.

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QUOTE(airline @ Apr 11 2011, 08:03 PM)
sorry guys for those who pm me. my account blocked by lowyat staff for spamming. emailed them no reply.

Pai chief, sorry was outstation Penang, when u called.
400k no go. 400k after deduct all the fees. earn peanuts.
got 410K offer also.

keeping for the moment... this got potential like Sri Maya
however since need to roll,
high floor to let go 38th floor at 470K agent, rm480  agent.
47 deposit needed. upfront. non-refundable.

16th floor rm430k.
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Any advise on which block is the better buy for TS?
Nearer to front gate/hospital or Vistana hotel?
Pool or KL view?
Facing south west or north east?
Thanks.

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@moonh,

I've seen the pool area.........its really quite decent.........and not west facing.....................get the A2 blok if possible........as its the furthest away from LRT track............
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this location so good.
the only "competitor" condo is Bistari.

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thanks pai.
eyeing one at A1 near vistana hotel pool view.
will try and compare price with A2 pool view units, thanks.
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Bistari?
Vistana u mean?
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Letting go a unit in block A2, between 12-20 floors, Pool View at 450k.
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QUOTE(airline @ May 4 2011, 11:58 AM)
Bistari?
Vistana u mean?
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erm.both?
around that area got bistari,vistana and titiwangsa sentral only.
i just get the value of titiwangsa sentral,get 400k max

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Which valuer did u use? Got new valuer who give high values
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i call td valuer only. just want to roughly know the range.
so u get 450k?

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got td valuer?
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http://valuer.com.my/valuer-dir/Td%20Aziz%202.asp
http://tda.ec-enabler.com.my/

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TD aziz u mean.. did u speak with the boss? yes i know them. wait complete, will go higher.

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QUOTE(moonh @ May 4 2011, 11:34 AM)
thanks pai.
eyeing one at A1 near vistana hotel pool view.
will try and compare price with A2 pool view units, thanks.
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try to get max 15th floor if pool view............ higher not necessarily is better wink.gif
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receive sms from agent, say now 430K now minimum
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430k-480k
depends on different view.
anyone looking to sell it with tenancy?
i got some investor interesting=)


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not yet complete..
can people rent?
interesting if so..
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Letting go a unit in block A2, between 15-20 floors, Pool View at 450k.
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QUOTE(Condo Hunter @ May 4 2011, 05:21 PM)
erm.both?
around that area got bistari,vistana and titiwangsa sentral only.
i just get the value of titiwangsa sentral,get 400k max
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value at 410psf i.e. 450k some 3 months back, from a couple of specialized prop appraisers..

now, the same 450k for mid-floor facing pool, any other prop appraisers shud be able to oblige.. if not, they ain't worth being appointed, simply becoz there are more and more transactions supporting this level than before..
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Letting go a unit in block A2, between 15-20 floors, Pool View at 450k.
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boss pls PM me unit number.............a fren might be keen if price still negotiable?
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Anyone here bought the extra car park, if u planning to stay there?
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VP is out............... wink.gif
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VP is out............... wink.gif
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pay sum of 30K, building maintenance account etc.
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any cash buyer out there collected their keys already? Pls share pics.......... ^^
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pay sum of 30K, building maintenance account etc.
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why pay 30K to collect key? Gold plated key?


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any cash buyer out there collected their keys already? Pls share pics.......... ^^
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Why your top pick is Titiwangsa Sentral? Don't mind to share more?

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my friend collected last week.
inspect few hours.
take loan one.

i know a few cash buyers. got discount somemore.
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it does appreciate a lots, few of my friends bought subsales units.....
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Why your top pick is Titiwangsa Sentral? Don't mind to share more?
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Let do this the other way around................what would you reckon to be a better buy today VS TS? wink.gif
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Let do this the other way around................what would you reckon to be a better buy today VS TS?   wink.gif
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Amara Service residence in Batu Cave? Capers in Sentul East? or NOTHING?


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it does appreciate a lots, few of my friends bought subsales units.....
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buy subsales also make money?


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QUOTE(airline @ May 17 2011, 11:17 AM)
my friend collected last week.
inspect few hours.
take loan one.

i know a few cash buyers. got discount somemore.
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how is the quality? a lot of defect or very minor only?

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paid all the fees due last Mon and booked a date for inspection, which is almost a month from now.
now surveying for built-in KC and wardrobes. found one quite cheap:
http://www.clskitchencabinet.com/promotions.html

not sure about the quality though. anybody care to share? tq.
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[quote=GlobalKL,May 17 2011, 12:08 PM]
Amara Service residence in Batu Cave? Capers in Sentul East? or NOTHING?


Added on May 17, 2011, 12:08 pm

Capers sold out and cost at least 700k per unit~~~
TS cost around 400-500k now. Totally different level.
Can consider Tamarind and Saffron, but they are turning old.
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I got friend looking to buy 1100sq feet pls pm me if u want to save on agent fee.
Which floor and facing. Let me know if u inspect already
Better if rm420-rm410k below Higher also consider

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PM me if any seller want to sell their unit .. thx
btw, anyone know what;s the bank value for the unit ??

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What is the cheapest price
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What is the cheapest price
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If you are lucky, 380k, usual price 400k, current owner happy price 450k
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380k/400k i think months ago.

anyway, who's selling that price range, do leave me a pm.
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If you are lucky, 380k, usual price 400k, current owner happy price 450k
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380k maybe still got. But low floor close to swimming pool.
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Even low floor also hitted 420k already :S
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low floor close to swimming pool suites me just fine, nkhong u wanna sell me urs bo? wink.gif
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low floor close to swimming pool suites me just fine, nkhong u wanna sell me urs bo?  wink.gif
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I wish I have one unit there .. smile.gif .. last week I called following agent, Werren. He said got 380K low floor close to swimming pool. You may try to call him asap maybe still got.

http://www.iproperty.com.my/propertylistin...ominium_ForSale

You are optimistic about this property? If 430k-450k for medium floor do you think still can go ahead??
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Block B cant get such pricing. Only Block A1 Or A2 might have chances. FYI lowest price now is at RM420k bumi lot while RM430k 1X floor Block A1
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Block B shud be at least 50k higher....
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U all buy for own stay/ rent out/ to sell?
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U all buy for own stay/ rent out/ to sell?
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Good question!!

If to rent...100% sure it will be harder as you have to compete with 1000 other owners/units and also the other condominiums in jalan ipoh. Due to this rental will not fetch more than RM 1500/- per unit. Thats also depends with your ability to find a tenant in time.


For own stay- think twice!!
Do you prefer to stay with students, budget tenants ? will you have a good privacy ?
This whole unit will be flooded with students, middle eastern and other budget oriented tenants.

Upto you. there are much more better condos in surround for own stay with a good life style. example The Tamarind , Maple etc

Just my thought. No offense.ok.
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QUOTE(KeithLiewProperty @ Jun 3 2011, 05:13 AM)
Block B cant get such pricing. Only Block A1 Or A2 might have chances. FYI lowest price now is at RM420k bumi lot while RM430k 1X floor Block A1
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why Block A1 is cheaper?
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QUOTE(priyangaf @ Jun 3 2011, 07:28 PM)
Good question!!

If to rent...100% sure it will be harder as you have to compete with 1000 other owners/units and also the other condominiums in jalan ipoh. Due to this rental will not fetch more than RM 1500/- per unit. Thats also depends with your ability to find a tenant in time.
For own stay- think twice!!
Do you prefer to stay with students, budget tenants ? will you have a good privacy ?
This whole unit will be flooded with students, middle eastern and other budget oriented tenants.

Upto you. there are much more better condos in surround for own stay with a good life style. example The Tamarind , Maple etc

Just my thought. No offense.ok.
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I check both Tamrind and Maple are more expensive ...
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agents say 1.8-2k wo basic.

pai say 3.5K fully furnish. dilemma now.

agent keep calling to sell 440k.
able to hit 500k this place?

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QUOTE(airline @ Jun 3 2011, 10:55 PM)
agents say 1.8-2k wo basic.

pai say 3.5K fully furnish. dilemma now.

agent keep calling to sell 440k.
able to hit 500k this place?
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No way, this condo will take years to reach 500k price levels. just to remind, this condo was sold 225k for the initial buyers and now they ask 400-450k after 3 years which I believe is expensive and not worth for investment wise.
You can get more better choices around the corner for 480-500k levels. example - The Saffron, The Tamarind

It took Saffron 3 years to reach 400k levels. and now only on 4th year it is going for 450-500k levels. Thats also bcos Capers was announced for 600psqft. Saffron is from a well reputed developer with a master plan development in hand. still it took 3-4 years to appreciate.
Take Viva and River City as another example..still after 2 years of vacant possession - it is struggling to reach even 400k levels. but as soon as VP was out I saw some owners were asking 450k. It was just the artificial hype. Later price got stabilized.

Then what about Titiwanngsa Sentral ?

This is just the artificial hype period for TS, wait for a while..sure Titiwangsa owners will hard to compete their selling with each other ( 1000 owners! ) and the price will drop below 400k levels.

Upto you, you decide. It is your money.


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I check both Tamrind and Maple are more expensive ...
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Of-cause, those condos are for better lifestyle and for a better living environment. you have to pay the price for that. Tamarind and Maple are good for own stay with a class, not TS.
There is no way you can compare TS with Sentul east/West projects.

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QUOTE(airline @ Jun 3 2011, 10:55 PM)
agents say 1.8-2k wo basic.

pai say 3.5K fully furnish. dilemma now.

agent keep calling to sell 440k.
able to hit 500k this place?
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U should follow what agent says................"easier" that way............hehe still remember when I got my Axis SOHUs early this year agents told me its impossible to rent out the SOHU for anything above 1.5k..................the say stuff like "that area isnt a posh area" n "who will pay you that much"............


bottomline agent's interest isnt the same as the owner's............. and eventually my f/f SOHUs unit rented for 1.8k-1.9k............


so yes..............PLS "TRUST" YOUR REALTORS............ biggrin.gif


Added on June 4, 2011, 1:29 pmAnd not sure exactly why one compares TS with Tamarind/Saffron..........its takes one ADDITIONAL min 20min for a tenant to go to BB via monorail from Saffron VS TS...............

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QUOTE(Pai @ Jun 4 2011, 01:25 PM)
U should follow what agent says................"easier" that way............hehe still remember when I got my Axis SOHUs early this year agents told me its impossible to rent out the SOHU for anything above 1.5k..................the say stuff like "that area isnt a posh area" n "who will pay you that much"............
bottomline agent's interest isnt the same as the owner's............. and eventually my f/f SOHUs unit rented for 1.8k-1.9k............
so yes..............PLS "TRUST" YOUR REALTORS............  biggrin.gif


Added on June 4, 2011, 1:29 pmAnd not sure exactly why one compares TS with Tamarind/Saffron..........its takes one ADDITIONAL min 20min for a tenant to go to BB via monorail from Saffron VS TS...............
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Saw that your property pick is Titiwangsa Sentral - subsale.
Do you think that it could hit 480-500k for midfloors within this year?
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QUOTE(HappyA_Q @ Jun 4 2011, 01:47 PM)
Saw that your property pick is Titiwangsa Sentral - subsale.
Do you think that it could hit 480-500k for midfloors within this year?
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For certain views........YES......... wink.gif
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For certain views........YES.........  wink.gif
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Hahhaa.... okay... I will try my luck then.

Anyone interested in midfloor swimming pool view, let me know.
I have got a unit for sale. 480k nego.
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QUOTE(priyangaf @ Jun 3 2011, 07:28 PM)
Good question!!

If to rent...100% sure it will be harder as you have to compete with 1000 other owners/units and also the other condominiums in jalan ipoh. Due to this rental will not fetch more than RM 1500/- per unit. Thats also depends with your ability to find a tenant in time.
For own stay- think twice!!
Do you prefer to stay with students, budget tenants ? will you have a good privacy ?
This whole unit will be flooded with students, middle eastern and other budget oriented tenants.

Upto you. there are much more better condos in surround for own stay with a good life style. example The Tamarind , Maple etc

Just my thought. No offense.ok.
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Where got 1000 others owners to compete =.=
From 5th floor onwards to 38th floors, only 12 units per level.
Only 396, from my survey, half of these units are for own use.
Which mean is 198 units. about 40% were sold to new owner. Around 120 units left.
Among the 120 units, Some are for sale only, some are for rent and some not sure until receive CF.

So i assume around 30+ units are for rent.

Price for the moment its RM1700~2000 Basic
2200~2300 Partially furnish.
RM2400+ fully furnish.

For sale, 5th floor ~ 20th floor is 430k~450k [Last unit available in my hand for 430k]
20th floor to 30th Lowest RM450k ~ 480k
30th to 38th Lowest RM450k ~ 500k++ [Only few units in my hand for RM450k]

QUOTE(vpong @ Jun 3 2011, 08:57 PM)
why Block A1 is cheaper?
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Block A1 and A2 is a smaller unit compare to Block B1 [slightly 60sq.ft in differences].
For your information, the early bird purchase price for A1 and A2 is RM240k on 5th floor [each higher floor +RM500] while the Block B1 start from RM295k.


Please do contact me for inquiries.

Keith Liew @ 012 666 5060
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QUOTE(KeithLiewProperty @ Jun 4 2011, 07:04 PM)
Where got 1000 others owners to compete =.=
From 5th floor onwards to 38th floors, only 12 units per level.
Only 396, from my survey, half of these units are for own use.
Which mean is 198 units. about 40% were sold to new owner.  Around 120 units left.
Among the 120 units, Some are for sale only, some are for rent and some not sure until receive CF.

So i assume around 30+ units are for rent.

Price for the moment its RM1700~2000 Basic
2200~2300 Partially furnish.
RM2400+ fully furnish.

For sale, 5th floor ~ 20th floor is 430k~450k [Last unit available in my hand for 430k]
20th floor to 30th Lowest RM450k ~ 480k
30th to 38th Lowest RM450k ~ 500k++ [Only few units in my hand for RM450k]


Block A1 and A2 is a smaller unit compare to Block B1 [slightly 60sq.ft in differences].
For your information, the early bird purchase price for A1 and A2 is RM240k on 5th floor [each higher floor +RM500] while the Block B1 start from RM295k.
Please do contact me for inquiries.

Keith Liew @ 012 666 5060
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Bro, Please rechk- there are 3 blocks, each block 38 floors!!! that means 396 units in one block, and the total is 1188 units.
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no such thing as cash buyer got discount..

quite alot of defect but nothing major..i think main problem is door knocking on walls so theres a hole on the wall..

others biasa la need touch up here and there..owners do check on the doors..i got 2 doors alrdy "pecah" on the side..and check the locks too if you dont plan to change (rooms)

with no electric no renovation ..yet..water depends if u had paid tnb meter head..

but parking very narrow and small..good luck to those driving mpv or suv..
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QUOTE(priyangaf @ Jun 7 2011, 02:48 AM)
Bro, Please rechk- there are 3 blocks, each block 38 floors!!! that means 396 units in one block, and the total is 1188 units.
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U check properly lar... I'm specialist agent for that condo of coz i know....
Block A1 and A2 got 8 units in a block which mean total is 16 units
Block B1 only got 4 units in a block. so its 4 units.

Total per floor = 20 units

Number of floors = 38 minus 5[Basement and carparks] = 33

33 x 20 = 660 units.


By the way, units are ready for viewing. For those who are interested to get a cheap and reasonable units over there can contact me at 012 666 5060 to make an appointment. I already have pictures of all facilities and view of the top floors till the lower floors for who are busy to view the property.

Keith Liew @ - 012 666 5060
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QUOTE(priyangaf @ Jun 7 2011, 02:48 AM)
Bro, Please rechk- there are 3 blocks, each block 38 floors!!! that means 396 units in one block, and the total is 1188 units.
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I'm an owner and I can assure you that we only have 600++ units - I bet Keith's calculation of 660 is about right.
Guess you have not seen the layout plans.
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QUOTE(Backkom @ Jun 9 2011, 10:00 AM)
I'm an owner and I can assure you that we only have 600++ units - I bet Keith's calculation of 660 is about right.
Guess you have not seen the layout plans.
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i concur with backkom as i'm vested here as well. funny how some ppl are able to give detailed analysis on the negativity of a project but cant get simple facts like the number of units right, constantly hyping that TS has > 1k units even though i've pointed out clearly several pages back.

seems to me more like a sour grape who didnt manage to get a unit here initially...

to those questioning abt the feasibility of TS as an investment, my thoughts are simple - if u know of a new / undercon condo project right in the city centre within close walking distance to lrt, monorail, bus station, etc going for RM400 psf, i would gladly treat u to a nice cuppa wink.gif
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QUOTE(babana @ Jun 9 2011, 12:14 PM)
to those questioning abt the feasibility of TS as an investment, my thoughts are simple - if u know of a new / undercon condo project right in the city centre within close walking distance to lrt, monorail, bus station, etc going for RM400 psf, i would gladly treat u to a nice cuppa  wink.gif
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dont forget the FH status, Titiwangsa view etc  brows.gif
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I love my pool view too... hehe...  brows.gif
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Its awesome to hear be able to hear that water flowing sound 24-7............thinks its good for fengshui?  tongue.gif
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I like high floors above 30 with KLCC view. Sad for those units with high floors with swimming pool view, its too high till cant see the swimming pool lolol.
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U guys make it sound so nice. Anyone can bring me in & look2?
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U guys make it sound so nice. Anyone can bring me in & look2?
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Walau-eh... so many Zest owners spotted here... when you guys sell everything, untung almost hitting haf a mil liao... wink.gif
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Guys, finalized my group purchase price for TS, here's some info :

1. Built-in melamine ABS kit-cab - From RM850

2. Built in melamine ABS 5-feet-wide x 8feet high wardrobe - From RM900

3. A/C York 1hp - RM980 plus standard installation

Overall can do a fully furnished unit WITH minimalist ID for approx 25k. Cheers.
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Hi guys,

Good evening to everyone.

I am an new real estate agent and recently received few units from my partner to sell for Titiwangsa Sentral. Due to the price they asked me to sell is quite high, and then i was confused. Therefore i conduct some research in a few websites expecially this famous lowyat forum. After reading all the comments from all the website, somehow i was convinced to give it a shot to drop message here.

The offer i get here is RM 490,000 nett and i have few units to sell. If there is any serious buyer, you may just drop me an PM or email to me. My email address is ongjiahao@gmail.com and I would be gladly to help in every positions.

thanks.
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any sample photos Pai?
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QUOTE(airline @ Jun 11 2011, 06:57 PM)
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Updated news, unit which below RM450k has been all sold out. Only RM450k left in my hands right now from low floor to high floor. Be fast and do not miss this golden opportunity =]
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left only rm450K? the other day 430k..
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left only rm450K? the other day 430k..
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QUOTE(KeithLiewProperty @ Jun 4 2011, 07:04 PM)
Where got 1000 others owners to compete =.=
From 5th floor onwards to 38th floors, only 12 units per level.
Only 396, from my survey, half of these units are for own use.
Which mean is 198 units. about 40% were sold to new owner.  Around 120 units left.
Among the 120 units, Some are for sale only, some are for rent and some not sure until receive CF.

So i assume around 30+ units are for rent.

Price for the moment its RM1700~2000 Basic
2200~2300 Partially furnish.
RM2400+ fully furnish.

For sale, 5th floor ~ 20th floor is 430k~450k [Last unit available in my hand for 430k]
20th floor to 30th Lowest RM450k ~ 480k
30th to 38th Lowest RM450k ~ 500k++ [Only few units in my hand for RM450k]


Block A1 and A2 is a smaller unit compare to Block B1 [slightly 60sq.ft in differences].
For your information, the early bird purchase price for A1 and A2 is RM240k on 5th floor [each higher floor +RM500] while the Block B1 start from RM295k.
Please do contact me for inquiries.

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Rental at 1.7-2k are you sure? Seems that all this price are being push up by agents. All this price is increasing by the WEEK....next you hear that the price have shot up another 50k, so is there so much demand that the price goes up 50k?

I have been to the area and view the units, but surrounding area...if you want to stay there - think twice! Rental wise you need to hold on.
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Yes many demand. Harass by agents daily
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The lifts working during weekdays already?
Water and electricity connected?
Anyone been there recently?
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I wonder who can afford to pay rent rm2k monthly? Expat? If everyone is expecting expat to stay at their place then what about locals? There arent much expats in Malaysia to begin with. With that amount of money might as well you buy your own house/condo and expect lower monthly repayment for the same exact unit. Its funny how prices fluctuate on property nowadays

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2k rent is normal bro.. Locals can rent
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QUOTE(ocu888 @ Jun 14 2011, 11:30 AM)
Rental at 1.7-2k are you sure? Seems that all this price are being push up by agents. All this price is increasing by the WEEK....next you hear that the price have shot up another 50k, so is there so much demand that the price goes up 50k?

I have been to the area and view the units, but surrounding area...if you want to stay there - think twice! Rental wise you need to hold on.
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Yes, there is a reason why it is selling 430k++ for unit in city area. Ive been to the area and i dont like the surrounding area ... If the surrounding is good ofcoz wont be this kind of price la. IF they move the bus station to somewhere else and build something nice there, probably will push up the price ... I think ~450k still a fair price but I dropped the idea to invest here.

Maybe the agent is keeping pushing up the price trying to create illusion that the property is in hot demand like that. Good tactic ... Like developer, keep pushing up the price, if you dont buy now, the price will go up tomorrow, take away the early bird discount, up the psft price ... Dont give u much time to consider smile.gif
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The lifts working during weekdays already?
Water and electricity connected?
Anyone been there recently?
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1 lift working during weekday - without operator...
Still no water, not sure about electricity...
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Looks like price will stay below 500k levels with only 1 unit operating n facilities yet to be completed.........
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QUOTE(Backkom @ Jun 14 2011, 11:06 PM)
1 lift working during weekday - without operator...
Still no water, not sure about electricity...
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lucky the flush was working!
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Sold an unit today at RM460k, but the cheapest price so far still at RM450k. Any inquiries for units over there please do not hesitate to contact me, TQ.
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QUOTE(ocu888 @ Jun 14 2011, 11:30 AM)
Rental at 1.7-2k are you sure? Seems that all this price are being push up by agents. All this price is increasing by the WEEK....next you hear that the price have shot up another 50k, so is there so much demand that the price goes up 50k?

I have been to the area and view the units, but surrounding area...if you want to stay there - think twice! Rental wise you need to hold on.
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the world is crazy.........
Nowsaday, KL city centre still can get the condo below 500K, people said that is damn expensive.
But, out of KL, like Bukit Jalil, petaling, puchong, and etc, selling on above 500psf, already sold out.
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QUOTE(Pai @ May 11 2011, 02:09 PM)
boss pls PM me unit number.............a fren might be keen if price still negotiable?
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Pls kindly PM me... I have a unit...direct owner...not agent...
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I went to this place last saturday to survey. I found that the facade of the building look good and it seems like the most modern building in this area. The accessibility is thru Jalan Tun razak and Jalan ipoh. Public transport is at it's best, bus station and lrt station. Location wise is near to Kl city centre. That is why 2 hotels are there.

However, the surrounding is not so impressive. The surrounding area and shop seems to be quite old and shown a old township. It is a modern and new residential high rise built on a old area. Is the enviroment outside a G&G have no influence on the condo? Mind to share what attract so many investor into this.

Looking forward to learn from sifu sifu here as i just started RE
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Anyone here did renovations already?
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Taken VP end of June. Submitted defects list early July. I dunno u guys, there are many defects written. I had to wirte on the empty spaces below the paper and draw pictures. One of my bedroom door frame has cracked and many scratches and rough surfaces on walls. Overall it's still ok, but I spotted many areas need to be remedied. Alas, i hope the defects can be completed in 30 days to be ready for renovation. Im planning to rent out. Guys, with kitchen cabinets and air-con installed, how much would the rental price fetch?
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QUOTE(Oaks @ Jul 10 2011, 08:29 PM)
Taken VP end of June. Submitted defects list early July. I dunno u guys, there are many defects written. I had to wirte on the empty spaces below the paper and draw pictures. One of my bedroom door frame has cracked and many scratches and rough surfaces on walls. Overall it's still ok, but I spotted many areas need to be remedied. Alas, i hope the defects can be completed in 30 days to be ready for renovation. Im planning to rent out. Guys, with kitchen cabinets and air-con installed, how much would the rental price fetch?
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Here's a tip.........dont wait for dev to kawtim all minor defects ( small paint marks, dirty floor etc) else you need to wait.........dont forget bout
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Targetting to rent my f/f unit for 3.5k...........think its a bit of a stetch since everyone is juts looking for a mere 2.5k-2.8k f/f..........but never try never know........ tongue.gif
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QUOTE(Pai @ Jul 13 2011, 07:10 PM)
Major defects in my units completed.......reno'ing now.................... wink.gif
Here's a tip.........dont wait for dev to kawtim all minor defects ( small paint marks, dirty floor etc) else you need to wait.........dont forget bout
opportunity cost........
Targetting to rent my f/f unit for 3.5k...........think its a bit of a stetch since everyone is juts looking for a mere 2.5k-2.8k f/f..........but never try never know........  tongue.gif
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Checked out TS's Block B. Noticed Block A has more advantages than Block B.

- Density wise, same same loh.......Block B has 4 units per floor but only 2 lifts....quite jialat....esp during reno, move-in or when 1 lift breaks down......very scary.

- Common corridor, Block A1 and A2 look classier with indoor feel coz covered and sheltered from sun and rain. Block B's lower class feel.

- Common Corridor exposed to heavy rain....quite jialat.....feels exposed and scary when looking down from high floor with strong wind blowing.....

Block B's unit 3A is chun though, can see both KLCC and KL Tower but Block B likely to be affected most during Tamansari's construction.....
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QUOTE(nkhong @ Jun 14 2011, 04:22 PM)
Yes, there is a reason why it is selling 430k++ for unit in city area. Ive been to the area and i dont like the surrounding area ... If the surrounding is good ofcoz wont be this kind of price la. IF they move the bus station to somewhere else and build something nice there, probably will push up the price ... I think ~450k still a fair price but I dropped the idea to invest here.

Maybe the agent is keeping pushing up the price trying to create illusion that the property is in hot demand like that. Good tactic ... Like developer, keep pushing up the price, if you dont buy now, the price will go up tomorrow, take away the early bird discount, up the psft price ... Dont give u much time to consider smile.gif
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QUOTE(kochin @ Jul 13 2011, 07:35 PM)
in yoda's tone ...
ambitious ... you are.
lucky ... you have been.
hhmmm......
the force is .... strong with this one....
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been to titiwangsa sentral today to look at a unit but found that the surrounding of the property is actually not very well, given that the surrounding have grt effect on a property, do you guys gurus out there have any comment on this?

been looking but the price has increase to at least 450k now, which is already expensvie..

pls help help
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Good for own stay if you are ok with the surrounding. However I have doubt for investment to feed a rental of 2.5k.
Just my 2 cent
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friend show me his tenancy agreement 2.5k minimal furnishing needed
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think 2.5k is given can do.....vistana units p/f already doing 1.8k to 2k.....?

Prob with TS is a lot of owners r "foreigners"......who doesnt realize real value of TS.....if they can rent at 2k bare that 10% yield VS ori purchase price......which can be considered very good.....

I'd benchmark TS's fair rental value VS these props :

1. Seri Maya
2. Wangsa Maju condos (RGE, DP, etc)
3. 10% to 20% premium over older condo's like Vistana, Bistari, and the 2 condo's next to The Mall....

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U are really situ here ... Know the market very well ... notworthy.gif ... No wonder u so confidence own units over there ....
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QUOTE(nkhong @ Jul 15 2011, 07:24 PM)
U are really situ here ... Know the market very well ... notworthy.gif  ... No wonder u so confidence own units over there ....
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chief,
how would you think TS is going to fare against Mayland's sultan ismail project that is going to complete soon?
big competition, no?
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QUOTE(kochin @ Jul 15 2011, 07:52 PM)
chief,
how would you think TS is going to fare against Mayland's sultan ismail project that is going to complete soon?
big competition, no?
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need advice, thinking of buying a subsale unit for Titiwangsa Sentral, got choices between middle lot and corner lot, but the price for higher floor corner lot sell sightly higher, what do you guys think? higher floor corner but slightly expensive and lower floor middle lot..

??
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sam, how much is corner n middle unit??
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i am interested to buy a unit at Titiwangsa Sentral, anyone want to sell?

PM me..
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what's the occupancy of the TS now?
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Added on July 24, 2011, 12:56 pmBeen thr yesterday, once I enter the lift lobby
I was like holly shxt! Wat kind of design is that, especially the refuse chamber located in between elevators!!
The workmanship also sucks big time, those louvre grille outside the kitchen was installed "terbalik"!! Can you believe that!?
in fact, the whole thing is just look like a flat to me.
no offense ppl. God bless

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the world is crazy.........
Nowsaday, KL city centre still can get the condo below 500K, people said that is damn expensive.
But, out of KL, like Bukit Jalil,  petaling, puchong, and etc, selling on above 500psf, already sold out.
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I got a super rich fren's fren, drive sportcar(Duno which type but sure is two door with vroom vroom sound) stay at binjai near klcc for 1 month, he can't tahan coz JAM like hell everyday.
He said maybe klcc surrounding props is meant for expats who dun own cars! biggrin.gif
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went there this afternoon.
surprise got lockers for rent outside pool area.
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and the $$ for rental goes to.....???
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Have a unit 38 floor unit 8 rm480k to let go
Big Kl tower view.

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Is there any bumi Lot for TS ?
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My unit almost fully done up now............

Also heard TS is quite well received amongst foreign students......... dunno if its good or bad..............
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so pai,

how much is the whole renovation cost is? i remembered u mentioned something around rm 25k?

what is the rental now btw..
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QUOTE(junksofsam @ Jul 28 2011, 11:40 AM)
so pai,

how much is the whole renovation cost is? i remembered u mentioned something around rm 25k?

what is the rental now btw..
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Rental highest I see is 2.4k.
Any higher?
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Rental highest I see is 2.4k.
Any higher?
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apparently 2.8k for f/f is confirmed.........still way short of my 3.5k target......mebbe should reforecast to another year before can fetch 3.5k...............
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wah

2800 rental is so good for those purchase in 2009..

33600/250000 = 13% return?? sure or not?
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Too many agents covering titiwangsa I have 60 different agents SMS and calls.

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Btw, any condos or apartment nearby titiwangsa sentral? How much r they selling now?

Can name a few?
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Pai, ur unit face pool ar?
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Hmmm....this condo has caught my attention. I think once Pekeliling Flats start being redevelop, this place may fly!
What's the fair price now?

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Hi , i got client looking for rent 1 unit Fully Furnished budget RM2500,
3 local female , working at Wisma Genting , should be a good tenant ,
hope can ready on 25 of August ,
anyone available pls pm me , thx
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Sounds interesting
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QUOTE(Chrislim88 @ Jul 29 2011, 11:18 AM)
Hi , i got client looking for rent 1 unit Fully Furnished budget RM2500,
3 local female , working at Wisma Genting ,  should be a good tenant ,
hope can ready on 25 of August ,
anyone available pls pm me , thx
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post photo.......if cun mebbe can consider at 2.5k............. smile.gif
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ah pai also turn buaya. hahahaha.
guess the saying is true.
"once a man got wealth, he turn bad. once a lady turn bad, she will get wealth"

on a more serious note. am guessing pai's furnishing is creative financing again (ala 0% interest installment plans?)
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post photo.......if cun mebbe can consider at 2.5k............. smile.gif
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damn you. whole office wonder whether i sot oledi. laughigh so loud suddenly!!!
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hehehe ... maybe paikor wanna further reduce to 2.4k .. biggrin.gif
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The show house contractors did failure la
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Any construction company here? Why don't all of us who want to renovate group together and nego a better deal with thee contractor? Maybe can get a better deal?
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Hi, i have a unit at 28th floor to let go at 460k. For 1100sf type. View swimming pool.
Anyone interest pls call me 012200 1702
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post photo.......if cun mebbe can consider at 2.5k............. smile.gif
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lolx , bro , i dun have photo on hand , i ady meet 1 chinese female 1 from sarawak , another 1 no yet meet up .
yesterday just bring their company ppl to confirm tis area , thn right now i looking for owner who available for rent loh .
if u want more detail , i will get for u biggrin.gif
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No stewardess tenant in this condo..
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QUOTE(Chrislim88 @ Jul 29 2011, 07:55 PM)
lolx , bro , i dun have photo on hand , i ady meet 1 chinese female  1 from sarawak , another 1 no yet meet up .
yesterday just bring their company ppl to confirm tis area , thn right now i looking for owner who available for rent loh .
if u want more detail , i will get for u  biggrin.gif
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well anyone who can pay my asking price can certainly be considered..............Sarawakian's do have decent budget i believe........... smile.gif smile.gif
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well anyone who can pay my asking price can certainly be considered..............Sarawakian's do have decent budget i believe...........  smile.gif  smile.gif
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act rm2500 is company pay , company rent for stuff 1 , so they no need to pay
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chris,
you got company paying for rental in bukit jalil by next year?

sorry guys, OT from TS thread.
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well anyone who can pay my asking price can certainly be considered..............Sarawakian's do have decent budget i believe...........  smile.gif  smile.gif
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Hmm.. .. Didn't come across this
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Any construction company here? Why don't all of us who want to renovate group together and nego a better deal with thee contractor? Maybe can get a better deal?
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want use my contacts instead? Kitcab starts n wardrobe starts from rm980 only smile.gif


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QUOTE(Chrislim88 @ Jul 30 2011, 01:18 AM)
act rm2500 is company pay , company rent for stuff 1 , so they no need to pay
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Sorry 2.5k too low................. wink.gif

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want use my contacts instead? Kitcab starts n wardrobe starts from rm980 only  smile.gif


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Sorry 2.5k too low.................  wink.gif
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Pai pm me can? Which company is this? Start with k ke?
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hey pai,

can see photos of your renovated house? share share how 25k renovation looks like lar...
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hey pai,

can see photos of your renovated house? share share how 25k renovation looks like lar...
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aiyoh, share share lar.. i promise i wont copy..

waht abt the renovation company? do they have ready template to choose from?
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Revising price my exit price to 700psf now.............. wink.gif
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U targeted when this is achievable ? To me looks like very soon depending on how mahsing price their development ... Normally something from mahsing is not cheap look at m city.
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700k x 1100sq feet rm770k
Boleh ke?

The Orion jalan tun razak rm650k only

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U targeted when this is achievable ? To me looks like very soon depending on how mahsing price their development ... Normally something from mahsing is not cheap look at m city.
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Guys, finalized my group purchase price for TS, here's some info :

1. Built-in melamine ABS kit-cab - From RM850

2. Built in melamine ABS 5-feet-wide x 8feet high wardrobe - From RM900

3. A/C York 1hp - RM980 plus standard installation

Overall can do a fully furnished unit WITH minimalist ID for approx 25k. Cheers.
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Built-in melamine ABS kit-cab - From RM850 ... this was so cheap!!!! i got it cheapest at rm2.6k

can u pm me the company?

and anyone know the standard of door & window grill? any who have any intro?


thanks...




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the show unit of reno is about 50k..fuuh
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Built-in melamine ABS kit-cab - From RM850 ... this was so cheap!!!! i got it cheapest at rm2.6k

can u pm me the company?

and anyone know the standard of door & window grill? any who have any intro?
thanks...
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the kitcab is a 2 piece kitcab, which forms a "L"............

Im the company.........well I got direct disc from factory........... so if keen just PM me wink.gif
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the show unit of reno is about 50k..fuuh
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Hi, All Titiwangsa Sentral Residence Im Simon Lee From Renovation
Company, My Company Have Do All Kind Of Renovation
All Residence Can Login To Facebook (firsthomedesignrenovation) Or Contact ( 016- 209 2338 ) For Any Enquary

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Any construction company here? Why don't all of us who want to renovate group together and nego a better deal with thee contractor? Maybe can get a better deal?
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Hi, All Titiwangsa Sentral Residence Im Simon Lee From Renovation
Company, My Company Have Do All Kind Of Renovation
All Residence Can Login To Facebook (firsthomedesignrenovation) Or Contact ( 016- 209 2338 ) For Any Enquary

THANK

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Heard from agent Subsales is slow
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1st - Over value
2nd - Market not stable ma now
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3rd. at this time, people tends to wait and see. LOL..so no rush...once waiting for nothing, then come back liao...
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Defects still not done
The contractor transferred to other site soho it seems
Getting lazy to chase them

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if want to sell, better soon ya.. this developer going to wash hands soon with this project. headache this developer.
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if want to sell, better soon ya.. this developer going to wash hands soon with this project. headache this developer.
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i share the same concern.... sweat.gif
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3rd. at this time, people tends to wait and see. LOL..so no rush...once waiting for nothing, then come back liao...
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I heard many negative factors which affect TS , eg. Vue giving more discount, share market drops, poor maintenance, rental not feeding as optimistic (rm 2500 f/f, hmm.gif ) etc, except m sentral development, so I guess holding power may be longer due to the factors above.
Just my 2 cents


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i share the same concern.... sweat.gif
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True. A friend of mine wanted to let go the his unit but due to defects has not been rectified yet and been questioned when buyer visit the unit. Hope the developer can expedite the process...

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the kitcab is a 2 piece kitcab, which forms a "L"............

Im the company.........well I got direct disc from factory........... so if keen just PM me  wink.gif
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how can i contact u? my email add ccting20@hotmail.com.. pls give me quotation, thk.

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Received a offer to rent at 1.5k via SMS today
Wtf so low
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Bro, in my opinion, RM 1500 is a descent rental for a 1000sqft unit when you compared with condos nearby. You shd be happy!!

In my calculations, a initial buyer have to pay only RM 1000+/- per month as the mortgage. so giving for RM 1500 you still got 500 +/- profit which is really good ROI.

Just my opinion.


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QUOTE(seanlee31 @ Aug 12 2011, 10:09 AM)
I heard many negative factors which affect TS , eg. Vue giving more discount, share market drops, poor maintenance, rental not feeding as optimistic (rm 2500 f/f, hmm.gif ) etc, except m sentral development, so I guess holding power may be longer due to the factors above.
Just my 2 cents


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True. A friend of mine wanted to let go the his unit but due to defects has not been rectified yet and been questioned when buyer visit the unit. Hope the developer can expedite the process...
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This is normal in all the condo's nowadays. lot of defects. may be developers are using cheap materials to gain more profits.

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QUOTE(priyangaf @ Aug 16 2011, 03:46 PM)
Bro, in my opinion, RM 1500 is a descent rental for a 1000sqft unit when you compared with condos nearby. You shd be happy!!

In my calculations, a initial buyer have to pay only RM 1000+/- per month as the mortgage. so giving for RM 1500 you still got 500 +/- profit which is really good ROI.

Just my opinion.


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This is normal in all the condo's nowadays. lot of defects. may be developers are using cheap materials to gain more profits.
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U forgot maintenance fee and agent
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U forgot maintenance fee and agent
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Oh yes, sorry.
lets say RM 125 p/m for the agent and 275 p/m for the maintenance....it is RM 400/-p/m which is still ok consider you can cover up the mortgage and another RM 100/- in hand too. may be you can use it for fire insurance and assessment fee etc. Not bad!! Headache free ownership.

Renovation cost- yes it is another story..no owner can cover that cost with the rental unless you target the capital appreciation of the property
No doubt this is a good property bcos you can cover the mortgage comfortably by giving for RM 1500/- p/m.

I have some condos with YTL and really hard to cover up the mortgage. But I am not the initial buyer..brought from subsales.

Everywhere seems initial buyer is a winner.

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[so who will ever buy TS subsale (>400K) for investment with such rental return...

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so who will ever buy TS subsale (>400K) for investment with such rental ...


Added on August 16, 2011, 4:46 pmso who will ever buy TS subsale (>400K) for investment with such rental return...
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400K??..come on, saw some owners are asking 500-550k also..hehehehehe.

lets do a small calculation.

If you buy for 450k, you need another 30k for SNP, stamp and lawyer fees and another 20k for simple renovation which makes the total value 500k.
For 500K mortgage, monthly installment is RM 2100/-. then you have to add up another RM 400 p/m for agent fees and maintenance.
So quit rent, fire insurance and assessment fees needs to bear separately. it is another RM 100 p/m.

So total you need to cover RM 2500/- pm

Now the question is ..can you rent TS for RM 2500 range?? ( bear in mind you are expecting this rent price by only doing basic renovation of 20k, so will a tenant pay RM 2500/- pm for a such unit ?) Even good properties of YTL (Saffron ) do not fetch RM 2500/- pm

Okay, If you rent TS for RM 1500...every month you have to pump RM 1000/- to cover the mortgage.... and where is the profit??
Ok, waiting 1year - 2 years ?? 3 years?? property is getting older and price appreciation will be on halt one day. by then tenants will move to new condominiums in town and rent start falling.
For 3 years you have to pump 36k just to cover the difference in rental to pay off the mortgage.

So be careful, subsale owner has to rent for atleast RM 2500/- to breathe peacefully. ... in my opinion there are plenty of choices around for RM 2500 range.

Going further, after 3 years you need to sell atleast 600k for breakeven. if you sell for 700k, you have a profit of 100k after 3 years. hmm.. will it be 700per sqft in this area by then?
Reminding here, TS has more than 600 units, so lot of competition for you to sell a unit for 700k range in another 3 years. There is competition from outside and also from inside TS owners.

And........ after all doing all these doings for 3 years to earn just 100k? managing tenants for 3 years is a nightmare and earning 100k after 3 years cannot justify the efforts you put in.

So think twice before buying from sub-sales, or presurize the initial owners to sell for lower price. tell them they brought the property for 250-300k range and cannot ask 450k-500K withing 2 yrs just becos there is a LRT next to it.

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Now the question is ..can you rent TS for RM 2500 range?? ( bear in mind you are expecting this rent price by only doing basic renovation of 20k, so will a tenant pay RM 2500/-  pm for a such unit ?) Even good properties of YTL (Saffron ) do not fetch RM 2500/- pm
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Will share my experience next month...whether I can breach 3k levels with TS...also IMHO saffron isnt the same category as TS............gotta walk a good 10-15min to Star LRT.........

TS......2 min walk to Star n Monorail.......... wink.gif
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Will share my experience next month...whether I can breach 3k levels with TS...also IMHO saffron isnt the same category as TS............gotta walk a good 10-15min to Star LRT.........

TS......2 min walk to Star n Monorail..........  wink.gif
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Bro, in my opinion a person who uses LRT to commute will never ever have a budget of 3k level for his housing. your targeted tenants in TS are students and young working personals. do you think they can afford RM 3000 pm?

To pay RM 3000 for rental one should atleast earn RM 9000 -10000 monthly income. Thats the salaries of the expats in Malaysia and I don't think expats will select TS in chow kit for their own stay. Still if they want to stay in this area for any other reason they have many luxurious projects next door. Tamarind, Maple etc or further away they have 100's of MK properties. I am in this business for past 5 years. So I know what I am speaking. these are all my findings.

Expat will look who are the other tenants in the building before they move in, in this case TS will be full of students and young working personals, and may be some middle eastern families too.
Will expats join with them for own stay??
So if you target expats for TS, it is a no go.
In fact no one will like to mingle and stay with noisy students and young working crowd. So for expats defiantly a no go.

Expats will look the area and surrounding too. they do not want nearby LRT's or mamak stalls. They look for their community , high living standards, good amenities and shopping. Thats why lot of expats are moving to Maple, Tamarind and MK nowadays.

Your targeted tenants for TS are students and young working crowd. Just imagine 600+ units full of those crowd...building maintenance will drop dramatically and in long run TS will be another villa putra / puteri with RM 1500 budgeted tenants.


Anyways do let us know your rented price in TS.
Good luck to you.

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Bro, in my opinion a person who uses LRT to commute will never ever have a budget of 3k level for his housing. your targeted tenants in TS are students and young working personals. do you think they can afford RM 3000 pm?

To pay RM 3000 for rental one should atleast earn RM 9000 -10000 monthly income. Thats the salaries of the expats in Malaysia and I don't think expats will select TS in chow kit for their own stay. Still if they want to stay in this area for any other reason they have many luxurious projects next door. Tamarind, Maple etc or further away they have 100's of MK properties. I am in this business for past 5 years. So I know what I am speaking. these are all my findings.

Expat will look who are the other tenants in the building before they move in, in this case TS will be full of students and young working personals, and may be some middle eastern families too.
Will expats join with them for own stay??
So if you target expats for TS, it is a no go.
In fact no one will like to mingle and stay with noisy students and young working crowd. So for expats defiantly a no go.

Expats will look the area and surrounding too. they do not want nearby LRT's or mamak stalls. They look for their community , good amenities and shopping. Thats why lot of expats are moving to Maple, Tamarind and MK nowadays.

Your targeted tenants for TS are students and young working crowd. Just imagine 600+ units full of those crowd...building maintenance will drop dramatically and in long run TS will be another villa putra / puteri with RM 1500 budgeted tenants.
Anyways do let us know your rented price in TS.
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Chief,

5 years in this business? meaning rental business? or investing in props?

Anyway while there's logic in your argument.................can you kindly share with us any newly completed condo's since 2009 in city center that is currently :

1. Rented at below 2k for a f/f 3 bedder?
2. Must be within 5min walk to LRT/Monorail

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Nope from and SMS from agents read
Students (plenty)
Middle eastern (plenty)
Working people budget 1.8k-2k partly

If u lucky u can get partly furnish like my friend 2.4k

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QUOTE(Pai @ Aug 17 2011, 08:42 AM)
Chief,

5 years in this business? meaning rental business? or investing in props?

Anyway while there's logic in your argument.................can you kindly share with us any newly completed condo's since 2009 in city center that is currently :

1. Rented at below 2k for a f/f 3 bedder?
2. Must be within 5min walk to LRT/Monorail

hmm.gif
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Bro, to clarify..I am an investor and a foreigner. Over the spam of last 5 years hv brought nearly 10 properties in town for investment and now I am breaking my head to find tenants.

Anyways..leave that apart, to answer your question, yes I can give so many examples for below 2k for a f/f 3 bedder units in town.
Take nearby Viva, Putra majestic, River city, all these condo's fetch very low rentals. I have a known owner in River city..for the past 5-6 months he is searching for a tenant for 2k range.
If you go further away from TS, you will find villa putra , villa puteri and Bistari near PWTC which rented for loads of students and middle eastern families for 1.5k range. those condo's are like hostels now!

bro, to fetch 3k...it is really impossible for low/mid end condo's nowadays ,specially high density condos like TS.
Only high end / luxury condominium's fetch can 3k and above. even Saffron fetching around 2k range.


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Nope from and SMS from agents read
Students (plenty)
Middle eastern (plenty)
Working people budget 1.8k-2k partly

If u lucky u can get partly furnish like my friend 2.4k
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Bro, thats right. you have to rent TS either to a student or a middle eastern family. senior office staff or expats wont attract to TS. we all knew this even before investing , right?

Now the question is how much a student can pay pm as rental....and how much rental middle eastern people can afford. and the building maintenance.
middle eastern families have atleast 5-6 persons in their families. and atleast 6 students will stay in one unit.

so..600+ units with each unit 6 persons, it is 3600 people going to live in TS when fully occupied.

The crowd is more than a school/hostel and maintaining the common areas will have a difficult time. and again with all these setbacks it will leave for low rental prices in future. and when you want to sell your property..the nightmare comes. Do investors like to buy hostels??

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QUOTE(priyangaf @ Aug 17 2011, 09:49 AM)
Bro, to clarify..I am an investor and a foreigner. Over the spam of last 5 years hv brought nearly 10 properties in town for investment and now I am breaking my head to find tenants.

Anyways..leave that apart, to answer your question, yes I can give so many examples for below 2k for a f/f 3 bedder units in town.
Take nearby Viva, Putra majestic, River city, all these condo's fetch very low rentals. I have a known owner in River city..for the past 5-6 months he is searching for a tenant for 2k range.
If you go further away from TS, you will find villa putra , villa puteri and Bistari near PWTC which rented for loads of students and middle eastern families for 1.5k range. those condo's are like hostels now!

bro, to fetch 3k...it is really impossible for low/mid end condo's nowadays ,specially high density condos like TS.
Only high end / luxury condominium's fetch can 3k and above. even Saffron fetching around 2k range.


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Bro, thats right. you have to rent TS either to a student or a middle eastern family. senior office staff or expats wont attract to TS. we all knew this even before investing , right?

Now the question is how much a student can pay pm as rental....and  how much rental middle eastern people can afford. and the building maintenance.
middle eastern families have atleast 5-6 persons in their families. and atleast 6 students will stay in one unit.

so..600+ units with each unit 6 persons, it is 3600 people going to live in TS when fully occupied.

The crowd is more than a school/hostel and maintaining the common areas will have a difficult time. and again with all these setbacks it will leave for low rental prices in future. and when you want to sell your property..the nightmare comes. Do investors like to buy hostels??
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I share the same concerns as you. I got many calls that there are ready tenants from local students or middle eastern students ...

That is the prime reason why i cash out my investments from TS. I am not good in managing these types of tenants ... TS is a mid cost condo, and will remain that way ... Hence, the rental will remain mid range and you get mid range type of tenants (middle eastern students etc) ....Of cos, there will be some exceptions, depends on ur luck ...

Btw, just to share, i know a foreigner fren (not ang mo) who is renting RM2.2k high floor, p/f
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QUOTE(supersp @ Aug 17 2011, 11:04 AM)
I share the same concerns as you. I got many calls that there are ready tenants from local students or middle eastern students ...

That is the prime reason why i cash out my investments from TS. I am not good in managing these types of tenants ... TS is a mid cost condo, and will remain that way ... Hence, the rental will remain mid range and you get mid range type of tenants (middle eastern students etc) ....Of cos, there will be some exceptions, depends on ur luck ...

Btw, just to share, i know a foreigner fren (not ang mo) who is renting RM2.2k high floor, p/f
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Thanks, finally atleast someone agrees with me.
Regard to the luck part, yes you are correct. all depends with the luck you carry. if you are lucky you will find good tenants who can pay you more. if you are lucky you can sell your property for a higher price.

Lets hope everyday is a lucky day for our TS owners here!!
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How much more u guys reckon mah sing will push up titiwangsa sentral
Or cash out now..
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How much more u guys reckon mah sing will push up titiwangsa sentral
Or cash out now..
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Bro, M Sentral is a different segment than TS. so cannot compare.
It is like we are comparing Maple and Viva. Can Viva fetch a higher price just bcos sitting infront of Maple? No, right?

I think this is the best time for TS sales. sell for 400k range. still you got 150k profit.
In near future TS will have stiff competition with other high end condos around the corner. See Capers, Setia Sky, Vue, M Sentral, mulberry and Fennel going to come up and it is stiff competition for TS.
Can TS survive with all these high end condos?

Just my thought.

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Today so jam can't go titiwangsa see defects done already
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bit? hahaha
come on..how you can get 3k for a 1000sqft bedroom.

tenants are getting spoiled with lot of options they have nowadays.
KLCC is almost empty, Bukit Bingtang is dry, MK is a ghost city...even in award winning properties like Maple, it is hard to find a tenant for 3k range.
So you decide.

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QUOTE(priyangaf @ Aug 17 2011, 09:49 AM)
Bro, to clarify..I am an investor and a foreigner. Over the spam of last 5 years hv brought nearly 10 properties in town for investment and now I am breaking my head to find tenants.

Anyways..leave that apart, to answer your question, yes I can give so many examples for below 2k for a f/f 3 bedder units in town.
Take nearby Viva, Putra majestic, River city, all these condo's fetch very low rentals. I have a known owner in River city..for the past 5-6 months he is searching for a tenant for 2k range.
If you go further away from TS, you will find villa putra , villa puteri and Bistari near PWTC which rented for loads of students and middle eastern families for 1.5k range. those condo's are like hostels now!

bro, to fetch 3k...it is really impossible for low/mid end condo's nowadays ,specially high density condos like TS.
Only high end / luxury condominium's fetch can 3k and above. even Saffron fetching around 2k range.

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Firstly allow me to share my admiration to someone who has bought close to 10 props todate in KL............ notworthy.gif

My argument here is that none of the condo's you've mentioned in your example above meets all the criteria for relevant comparison to TS comparison which are :

1. Newly completed condo's since 2009 in city center
2. Rented at below 2k for a f/f 3 bedder?
3. Must be within 5min walk to LRT/Monorail.

Hence, I'd recommend you research the following developments which I believe represents a more accurate comparison to TS today :

1. Villa Wangsamas
2. Desa Putra
3. Plaza RAH
4. Axis Residence
5. Seri Maya
6. Ampang Putra Res
7. Savannah in BJ
8. 2 bedder Casa Mutiara unit

All the developments above are within comfortable walking distance to LRT (less than 10min) and some of it has been completed before 2009. Interestingly all these condo arent as nice as Saffron, but it commands higher rentals PSF VS Saffron. Care to guess why is that? wink.gif







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For discussion sake, I think list the rental rates of the above would be better
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KLCC is almost empty, Bukit Bingtang is dry, MK is a ghost city...
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I am sorry to say this but this sentence of yours is completely irresponsible. I think forums are meant to share but I don't think anybody will describe KLCC as "almost empty" and MK as "ghost town".

Honestly, I am looking for a unit in TS (I have not been able to find a "motivated seller" since almost 2 months!) and should let you continue with your negative postings here so sellers will panic and sell, but my consience can't stop me from posting.

I have noticed there are postings with "questionable intentions" in Property forum. Some will try to say all negatives, hoping people will sell/not buy and some will say only positives to generate more interest. This may affect those new into property investments but never the seasoned people.
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A quick search at iproperty...found 807 listings for sale and 454 listing for rental... ofcoz, actual unit must be far less.... most bought for investment i see.... need some big luck to make deal... all the best!
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Firstly allow me to share my admiration to someone who has bought close to 10 props todate in KL............ notworthy.gif

My argument here is that none of the condo's you've mentioned in your example above meets all the criteria for relevant comparison to TS comparison which are :

1. Newly completed condo's since 2009 in city center
2. Rented at below 2k for a f/f 3 bedder?
3. Must be within 5min walk to LRT/Monorail.

Hence, I'd recommend you research the following developments which I believe represents a more accurate comparison to TS today :

1. Villa Wangsamas
2. Desa Putra
3. Plaza RAH
4. Axis Residence
5. Seri Maya
6. Ampang Putra Res
7. Savannah in BJ
8. 2 bedder Casa Mutiara unit

All the developments above are within comfortable walking distance to LRT (less than 10min) and some of it has been completed before 2009. Interestingly all these condo arent as nice as Saffron, but it commands higher rentals PSF VS Saffron. Care to guess why is that?  wink.gif
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Bro, I understand all above properties are near by to LRT stations. but do you know the present rental prices?

We were talking about potential rental prices at TS. So need those condo's present rental prices to verify whether your thoughts are valid.


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Klcc and mont kiara only big units empty boss
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I am sorry to say this but this sentence of yours is completely irresponsible. I think forums are meant to share but I don't think anybody will describe KLCC as "almost empty" and MK as "ghost town".

Honestly, I am looking for a unit in TS (I have not been able to find a "motivated seller" since almost 2 months!) and should let you continue with your negative postings here so sellers will panic and sell, but my consience can't stop me from posting.

I have noticed there are postings with "questionable intentions" in Property forum. Some will try to say all negatives, hoping people will sell/not buy and some will say only positives to generate more interest. This may affect those new into property investments but never the seasoned people.
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why you are worried about my one sentence ?
If you like TS, grab it. don't like leave it. simple.

everyone knows that people do not go by forumer's comments and buy or sellout their properties. we were discussing about TS potentials. so wanted to compare few of the other condo's here and there. that's it.


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A quick search at iproperty...found 807 listings for sale and 454 listing for rental... ofcoz, actual unit must be far less.... most bought for investment i see.... need some big luck to make deal... all the best!
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400K??..come on, saw some owners are asking 500-550k also..hehehehehe.

lets do a small calculation.

If you buy for 450k, you need another 30k for SNP, stamp and lawyer fees and another 20k for simple renovation which makes the total value 500k.
For 500K mortgage, monthly installment is RM 2100/-. then you have to add up another RM 400 p/m for agent fees and maintenance.
So quit rent, fire insurance and assessment fees needs to bear separately. it is another RM 100 p/m.

So total you need to cover RM 2500/- pm

Now the question is ..can you rent TS for RM 2500 range?? ( bear in mind you are expecting this rent price by only doing basic renovation of 20k, so will a tenant pay RM 2500/-  pm for a such unit ?) Even good properties of YTL (Saffron ) do not fetch RM 2500/- pm

Okay, If you rent TS for RM 1500...every month you have to pump RM 1000/- to cover the mortgage.... and where is the profit??
Ok, waiting 1year - 2 years ?? 3 years?? property is getting older and price appreciation will be on halt one day. by then tenants will move to new condominiums in town and rent start falling.
For 3 years you have to pump 36k just to cover the difference in rental to pay off the mortgage.

So be careful, subsale owner has to rent for atleast RM 2500/-  to breathe peacefully. ... in my opinion there are plenty of choices around for RM 2500 range.

Going further, after 3 years you need to sell atleast 600k for breakeven. if you sell for 700k, you have a profit of 100k after 3 years. hmm.. will it be 700per sqft in this area by then?
Reminding here, TS has more than 600 units, so lot of competition for you to sell a unit for 700k range in another 3 years. There is competition from outside and also from inside TS owners.

And........ after all doing all these doings for 3 years to earn just 100k? managing tenants for 3 years is a nightmare and earning 100k after 3 years cannot justify the efforts you put in.

So think twice before buying from sub-sales, or presurize the initial owners to sell for lower price. tell them they  brought the property for 250-300k range and cannot ask 450k-500K withing 2 yrs just becos there is a LRT next to it.
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TQ bro, what an excellent analysis. Thinking of grabbing one subsale unit at 460k, I really have to think 10 times .
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one can lock in for 2 year tenure to prevent headache.
most i heard 1 year. my friend at 2.4K is. singaporean tenant just to share.

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Bro, I understand all above properties are near by to LRT stations. but do you know the present rental prices?

We were talking about potential rental prices at TS. So need those condo's present rental prices to verify whether your thoughts are valid.
Yes I do know the rental prices, hence why I claimed ist undervalued. I have said the same before for selected unit in Axis, Maytower, Casa Mutiara, Zest and prices has close to doubled or have doubled since......... wink.gif

I suspect you havent done a through research on these condos I've mentioned...........hence why you compare TS with the likes of Viva/Rivercity/Maple instead. Why not do your research 1st then we can compare notes? smile.gif

As for Villa Puteri that u claimed to be rented at 1.5k per month :

BISTARI CONDO / Villa Puteri / Putera near Mall, LRT, 2+ 1r/3r/3+1r, f/furn. RM2200 up. 91001111 /??016-2420243 E31077

VILLA PUTERI 2+1r 1100sf high flr vacant semi-furn RM1800. Nora 012-340 4937 / 26923236 PPC VE(1) 0004

VILLA PUTERI condo 1100sf 3r2b f/f KLCC & pool view near LRT/PWTC. Urgent! RM- 2500. Lee 012-299 2298 E30104

VILLA PUTERI 2r2b 2+1r near to KTM / LRT / The Mall f/furnished Bkt Tunku / KLCC view avail. now. RM2.5k neg 017-3640 333. E31033

VILLA PUTERI 2+1 room 1100sf hi flr, KLCC view furnish RM2100 vacant. 21752688 019-3381369 E(3)0736

VILLA PUTERI nr PWTC LRT shopping mall 1000sf 2r2b fully furnish RM2000 Rachel 019-2223988, 62779318 E30127

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QUOTE(Pai @ Aug 18 2011, 07:19 AM)
Yes I do know the rental prices, hence why I claimed ist undervalued. I have said the same before for selected unit in Axis, Maytower, Casa Mutiara, Zest and prices has close to doubled or have doubled since.........  wink.gif

I suspect you havent done a through research on these condos I've mentioned...........hence why you compare TS with the likes of Viva/Rivercity/Maple instead.  Why not do your research 1st then we can compare notes?  smile.gif

As for Villa Puteri that u claimed to be rented at 1.5k per month :

BISTARI CONDO / Villa Puteri / Putera near Mall, LRT, 2+ 1r/3r/3+1r, f/furn. RM2200 up. 91001111 /??016-2420243 E31077

VILLA PUTERI 2+1r 1100sf high flr vacant semi-furn RM1800. Nora 012-340 4937 / 26923236 PPC VE(1) 0004

VILLA PUTERI condo 1100sf 3r2b f/f KLCC & pool view near LRT/PWTC. Urgent! RM- 2500. Lee 012-299 2298 E30104

VILLA PUTERI 2r2b 2+1r near to KTM / LRT / The Mall f/furnished Bkt Tunku / KLCC view avail. now. RM2.5k neg 017-3640 333. E31033

VILLA PUTERI 2+1 room 1100sf hi flr, KLCC view furnish RM2100 vacant. 21752688 019-3381369 E(3)0736

VILLA PUTERI nr PWTC LRT shopping mall 1000sf 2r2b fully furnish RM2000 Rachel 019-2223988, 62779318 E30127

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Bro, all these are advertised prices. we all know tenants bargain a lot and the final price differs a lot from the advertised price. few of my friends are staying in villa puteri and villa putra and thats how I told you the actual rented prices. People can advertise whatever the price, but end of the day there shd be some one to grab it for that price. i have seen some people advertising the same unit for more than 2-3 months.

Anyways you cannot compare PWTC's location with TS location. even though both the condo's are near by LRT stations, still the PWTC location plays a major role bro. location is everything. it is not relevant to compare the other condo's in town nearby a LRT with TS. TS is TS and Villa Putra is Villa Putra! axis is axis and so on. each project is different.
This is the reason I compared TS with nearby VIVA, river city, putra majestic etc to get a clear picture. Nowadays all these nearby condos fetch very low rental rates bro.


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Level 38 no hole at ceiling if u know what I mean
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i think those are common defects in all most all the projects nowadays..anyways it is nice to see you have purchased a high floor unit. it is easy for you to find a tenant. congrats.

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Added on August 17, 2011, 5:00 pm
why you are worried about my one sentence ?
If you like TS, grab it. don't like leave it. simple.

everyone knows that people do not go by forumer's comments and buy or sellout their properties. we were discussing about TS potentials. so wanted to compare few of the other condo's here and there. that's it.
Worried? Not the slightest bit. In fact, your postings suit all my intents and purposes in regards to TS. I am just waiting for a motivated seller. As simple as you say.

But if you're really genuinely discussing TS, why make silly statements like "KLCC is almost empty and MK is ghost town"? It just shows the "integrity" of your points.
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In my opinion, ts subsale and rental low cause too many agents. Last I count at least 70 agents.Competition intense.
Not to mention the 600 units
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where possible, i try to source for developments that is less than 400 units.
that's about the tipping point i reckon for a conducive living environment.
not too crowded yet lowers the maintenance fees.
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Received a offer to rent at 1.5k via SMS today
Wtf so low
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remember
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shud be thankful what u can get
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Guys, just be very carefull of ppl with hidden agenda's. You know some couldnt substantiate their negative remarks, yet keep on harping some unjustified comparison to hopefully pounce TS on the cheap. *This is a general reminder n am not referring to anyone in particular*

Before you rent or sell your TS unit, please have a look at the following developments rental and selling prices :

1. Villa Wangsamas
2. Desa Putra
3. Plaza RAH
4. Axis Residence
5. Seri Maya
7. Savannah in BJ
8. 2 bedder Casa Mutiara unit
9. 2 bedder Amcorp suites

Some of the development above are further away from city center, yet their f/f 3 bedder are being rented at up to 3.5k. Dont sell yourself short. smile.gif

Some of the development above are leasehold and only has a single LRT connectivity............ yet their selling price is higher than TS which is FH and has both LRT and monorail connectivity. Have patience and wait for the dust to settle..........and with Mah Sing's recent announcement of selling their props next to TS at minimum 700psf, you dont want to be the loser who sold his unit too early ....................... wink.gif


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QUOTE(Pai @ Aug 18 2011, 09:42 AM)
Guys, just be very carefull of ppl with hidden agenda's. You know some couldnt substantiate their negative remarks, yet keep on harping some unjustified comparison to hopefully pounce TS on the cheap. *This is a general reminder n am not referring to anyone in particular*

Before you rent or sell your TS unit, please have a look at the following developments rental and selling prices :

1. Villa Wangsamas
2. Desa Putra
3. Plaza RAH
4. Axis Residence
5. Seri Maya
7. Savannah in BJ
8. 2 bedder Casa Mutiara unit
9. 2 bedder Amcorp suites
 
Some of the development above are further away from city center, yet their f/f 3 bedder are being rented at up to 3.5k. Dont sell yourself short.  smile.gif

Some of the development above are leasehold and only has a single LRT connectivity............ yet their selling price is higher than TS which is FH and has both LRT and monorail connectivity. Have patience and wait for the dust to settle..........and with Mah Sing's recent announcement of selling their props next to TS at minimum 700psf, you dont want to be the loser who sold his unit too early .......................   wink.gif
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Bro, again i don't agree much with your comments. TS is TS and M sentral is M sentral. each project is different.
Have you seen Viva prices shooting up just becos Maple is in next door? Maple is Maple and Viva is viva. the best example i can give you around the corber is Tamarind vs Saffron. even though these two condo's are next to each other...Saffron didnt help to increase Tamarind prices. Tamarind got appreciated becos of it's uniqueness.

Same with TS, TS wont appreciate much just becos of M sentral is next door. and Orion wont appreciate just bcos Setia Sky is next to it.
anyways i understand no one can predict the future..we all have to wait and see. and what i wrote here is my belief.

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if both are vested, then the view probably will be the same
but lets agree to disagree : )

but my exp with low to mid cost apartment and condo has been so so
VP already subsequent thing to see is maintenance...if this one koyak...
value may be stagnant....

one thing we have to remember is...everyone's entry price is diff...
and ability to source tenant pool is one a must for a yield player...

what more...uninformed tenant.....
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where possible, i try to source for developments that is less than 400 units.
that's about the tipping point i reckon for a conducive living environment.
not too crowded yet lowers the maintenance fees.
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QUOTE(Pai @ Aug 18 2011, 09:42 AM)
Guys, just be very carefull of ppl with hidden agenda's. You know some couldnt substantiate their negative remarks, yet keep on harping some unjustified comparison to hopefully pounce TS on the cheap. *This is a general reminder n am not referring to anyone in particular*

Before you rent or sell your TS unit, please have a look at the following developments rental and selling prices :

1. Villa Wangsamas
2. Desa Putra
3. Plaza RAH
4. Axis Residence
5. Seri Maya
7. Savannah in BJ
8. 2 bedder Casa Mutiara unit
9. 2 bedder Amcorp suites
 
Some of the development above are further away from city center, yet their f/f 3 bedder are being rented at up to 3.5k. Dont sell yourself short.  smile.gif

Some of the development above are leasehold and only has a single LRT connectivity............ yet their selling price is higher than TS which is FH and has both LRT and monorail connectivity. Have patience and wait for the dust to settle..........and with Mah Sing's recent announcement of selling their props next to TS at minimum 700psf, you dont want to be the loser who sold his unit too early .......................   wink.gif
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Bro, my thoughts exactly. Though I am one of those vultures who's waiting to pounce, I cannot ethically do it by spreading disinformation (though on hindsight, i should just let others continue doing it). There will always be people out there that will sell cheap sooner than later...maybe need money for wedding, illness etc. Then its fair play.

Or maybe I'm actually one of those who owns a competiting rental place next door and can't afford for TS owners to rent/sell low low so my current rental can still compete? Muahahaha

My point? Read in between the lines. There are undoubtely many lurkers on this forum that just read and hope to get information for free. Nothing wrong with that, but just read and think critically.

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Is the mah sing land freehold or leasehold? Anyone knows?
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why villa wangsamas mention here? TS like VWM? cracks all over the place?
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why villa wangsamas mention here? TS like VWM? cracks all over the place?
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QUOTE(priyangaf @ Aug 18 2011, 10:01 AM)
Bro, again i don't agree much with your comments. TS is TS and M sentral is M sentral. each project is different.
Have you seen  Viva prices shooting up just becos Maple is in next door? Maple is Maple and Viva is viva. the best example i can give you around the corber is Tamarind vs Saffron. even though these two condo's are next to each other...Saffron didnt help to increase Tamarind prices. Tamarind got appreciated becos of it's uniqueness.

Same with TS, TS wont appreciate much just becos of M sentral is next door. and Orion wont appreciate just bcos Setia Sky is next to it.
anyways i understand no one can predict the future..we all have to wait and see. and what i wrote here is my belief.
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i think you are sharp .. i cant see how someone can compare TS till as far as bukit jalil .. might as well compare with MK condos .. that's just self-consoling ..
as u brilliantly pointed out, TS is TS .. and as how it was marketed, it remains as a mid range condo .. however, not many understand this but just harping on it's location, lrt station .. there are plenty of low to mid range condo with such location that sells much cheaper than TS .. A reminder to all TS owners, dont "bagi betis nak peha" .. otherwise, u dapat bontot .. rclxms.gif
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QUOTE(priyangaf @ Dec 18 2010, 11:01 PM)
I am interested to buy a unit in A block, high floor facing Jalan Ipoh, if anyone selling please let me know the best price etc.
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Minolta sir, u were absolutely right. Our fren here is indeed trying to play down TS to snatch a bargain. Priyangaf was looking for a cheap unit since December 2010...........and when he couldnt find one he had to resort to cheap tricks................. shakehead.gif


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QUOTE(priyangaf @ Aug 18 2011, 10:01 AM)
Bro, again i don't agree much with your comments. TS is TS and M sentral is M sentral. each project is different.
Have you seen  Viva prices shooting up just becos Maple is in next door? Maple is Maple and Viva is viva. the best example i can give you around the corber is Tamarind vs Saffron. even though these two condo's are next to each other...Saffron didnt help to increase Tamarind prices. Tamarind got appreciated becos of it's uniqueness.

Same with TS, TS wont appreciate much just becos of M sentral is next door. and Orion wont appreciate just bcos Setia Sky is next to it.
anyways i understand no one can predict the future..we all have to wait and see. and what i wrote here is my belief.
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Dude,

Allow me to repost your very own post in Maple that very much contradicts your claim above, ie the nearby new development dont have much impact on existing development :

QUOTE(priyangaf @ Apr 5 2011, 08:29 AM)
Because of Capers high pricing, surrounding condo's price also has gone up. Tamarind and Saffron is now RM 500 psqft! Maple even higher.
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Here when Capers was launched, you immediately thought it will help increase prices in Saffron, Tamarind and especially Maple since u r vested?

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And no wonder you are so negative when it comes to rentals and some of your claims just doesnt add up..........I would too if I was vested in large Maple units and Ampang Putra Residency........explains why your perspective in rentals is rather limited............

So fella's..........now behold our Priyangaf's real motives............. rolleyes.gif

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QUOTE(priyangaf @ Aug 17 2011, 08:20 AM)
Bro, in my opinion a person who uses LRT to commute will never ever have a budget of 3k level for his housing. your targeted tenants in TS are students and young working personals. do you think they can afford RM 3000 pm?

To pay RM 3000 for rental one should atleast earn RM 9000 -10000 monthly income. Thats the salaries of the expats in Malaysia and I don't think expats will select TS in chow kit for their own stay. Still if they want to stay in this area for any other reason they have many luxurious projects next door. Tamarind, Maple etc or further away they have 100's of MK properties. I am in this business for past 5 years. So I know what I am speaking. these are all my findings.

Expat will look who are the other tenants in the building before they move in, in this case TS will be full of students and young working personals, and may be some middle eastern families too.
Will expats join with them for own stay??
So if you target expats for TS, it is a no go.
In fact no one will like to mingle and stay with noisy students and young working crowd. So for expats defiantly a no go.

Expats will look the area and surrounding too. they do not want nearby LRT's or mamak stalls. They look for their community , high living standards, good amenities and shopping. Thats why lot of expats are moving to Maple, Tamarind and MK nowadays.

Your targeted tenants for TS are students and young working crowd. Just imagine 600+ units full of those crowd...building maintenance will drop dramatically and in long run TS will be another villa putra / puteri with RM 1500 budgeted tenants.
Anyways do let us know your rented price in TS.
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QUOTE(airline @ Aug 17 2011, 09:20 AM)
Nope from and SMS from agents read
Students (plenty)
Middle eastern (plenty)
Working people budget 1.8k-2k partly

If u lucky u can get partly furnish like my friend 2.4k
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QUOTE(supersp @ Aug 17 2011, 11:04 AM)
I share the same concerns as you. I got many calls that there are ready tenants from local students or middle eastern students ...

That is the prime reason why i cash out my investments from TS. I am not good in managing these types of tenants ... TS is a mid cost condo, and will remain that way ... Hence, the rental will remain mid range and you get mid range type of tenants (middle eastern students etc) ....Of cos, there will be some exceptions, depends on ur luck ...

Btw, just to share, i know a foreigner fren (not ang mo) who is renting RM2.2k high floor, p/f
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what is wrong about Middle Eastern people? They are good paymaster...of course not all
Managing tenant is nothing but spend your time chatting with them.
True, TS will remain as mid cost condo for now and tell me which condo below are not Mid-cost?

Desa Putra,
Suria Jelatek
Seri Maya
Riana Green East
Axis Res
Midfields
Saffron
Tamarind
The Zest
....

All above started with Mid-Cost condo and now you see the subsales price....of course rental never able to catch up with the price..the same for high end condo as well..

Mid range type of tenants NOT equal to Middle Eastern students! The good things about mid range tenants is it is easy to find this kind of tenants...Am i right?

Now, do you feel regret after selling yours knowing that Mah Sing will be in as well? and how much you sell it?


QUOTE(airline @ Aug 17 2011, 11:21 AM)
How much more u guys reckon mah sing will push up titiwangsa sentral
Or cash out now..
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QUOTE(priyangaf @ Aug 17 2011, 09:49 AM)
Bro, to clarify..I am an investor and a foreigner. Over the spam of last 5 years hv brought nearly 10 properties in town for investment and now I am breaking my head to find tenants.

Anyways..leave that apart, to answer your question, yes I can give so many examples for below 2k for a f/f 3 bedder units in town.
Take nearby Viva, Putra majestic, River city, all these condo's fetch very low rentals. I have a known owner in River city..for the past 5-6 months he is searching for a tenant for 2k range.
If you go further away from TS, you will find villa putra , villa puteri and Bistari near PWTC which rented for loads of students and middle eastern families for 1.5k range. those condo's are like hostels now!

bro, to fetch 3k...it is really impossible for low/mid end condo's nowadays ,specially high density condos like TS.
Only high end / luxury condominium's fetch can 3k and above. even Saffron fetching around 2k range.


Added on August 17, 2011, 10:01 am
Bro, thats right. you have to rent TS either to a student or a middle eastern family. senior office staff or expats wont attract to TS. we all knew this even before investing , right?

Now the question is how much a student can pay pm as rental....and  how much rental middle eastern people can afford. and the building maintenance.
middle eastern families have atleast 5-6 persons in their families. and atleast 6 students will stay in one unit.

so..600+ units with each unit 6 persons, it is 3600 people going to live in TS when fully occupied.

The crowd is more than a school/hostel and maintaining the common areas will have a difficult time. and again with all these setbacks it will leave for low rental prices in future. and when you want to sell your property..the nightmare comes. Do investors like to buy hostels??
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where are the locations of your 10 properties? Walking distance to LRT? If you meet our criteria, we can help you to find the tenant too. There are no LRT stations for Viva, Putra majestic, River city...so don't expect high rental and liquid ...and villa putra , villa puteri and Bistari near PWTC are old condo especially VPutra/VPuteri is facing the Mayland project, too near to highway...
TS is consider high density? Seri Maya even worse, 1400++ unit, super high den yet command handsome rental and don't expect low den with low price in future...Just look around recently launch condo will tell you something:

M City = more than 1K units
Element by Mayland = more than 1K
Z residence = More than 1K
The Zest, more than TS
Midfields by YTL, more than TS
Parkland more than 4K
M Sental, another high den and affordable residential play...

The positive point of high den is you have lower maintenance cost per month as it is share by all and economic of scale....How much you pay for Tamarind/Saffron/Maple for maintenance ? Min 30 sen and above right? but for some condo such as Desa Putra, Seri Maya, TS, they are paying around 20 sen only... So there is good thing about high den too provided that tenant profile is decent.



QUOTE(priyangaf @ Aug 17 2011, 11:31 AM)
Bro, M Sentral is a different segment than TS. so cannot compare.
It is like we are comparing Maple and Viva. Can Viva fetch a higher price just bcos sitting infront of Maple? No, right?

I think this is the best time for TS sales. sell for 400k range. still you got 150k profit.
In near future TS will have stiff competition with other high end condos around the corner. See Capers, Setia Sky,    Vue, M Sentral, mulberry and Fennel going to come up and it is stiff competition for TS.
Can TS survive with all these high end condos?

Just my thought.
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True, M Sentral is never equal to TS because:
M Sentral will be developed by Mah Sing whereby TS was developed by Monoland
M Sentral is sitting on Leasehold land whereby TS is sitting on Freehold land
M Sentral will be more den than TS
M Sentral will be selling from 700-800psf whereby TS was selling less than 300psf and subsales around 400++psf

So we cannot compare M Sentral and TS directly but what we can see is the potential of TS after M Sentral kick off. Nobody can deny the knock-on effect from this M Sentral.

and NOW is the BESTEST time to sell any properties and not just TS only judging from shaking global economies and potential our economy heading to south. Of course "Someone" will pick your unit if you are selling dirt cheap! hahahaha

True, TS will compete with other high end condos such as Capers/Setia Sky/Vue and someone also mentioned that TS is mid-cost, so how to compare? Put it this way, TS is cater for mid end tenants whereby others are catered for high end tenant. Others will not be able to compete with TS because entry cost for TS is much much lower than others. Can others rent it out 1.5K per month? I don't think so. if these high end condos are rented out it out 1.5K, they will be bleeding terribly. What I can see is these high end condos will compete among itself first before TS.

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this discussion slowly blend selling and rental together.... will freehold or leasehold make any difference to rental price??? ..... hmm.gif
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QUOTE(GlobalKL @ Aug 19 2011, 06:24 AM)
Seri Maya has a lot of expat from all kind of nationalities and going to work by LRT, paying for fully furnish unit more than 3K...Don't believe, please call the agent now
1 unit in Block B rented out partial furnish 2.5K
what is wrong about Middle Eastern people? They are good paymaster...of course not all
Managing tenant is nothing but spend your time chatting with them.
True, TS will remain as mid cost condo for now and tell me which condo below are not Mid-cost?

Desa Putra,
Suria Jelatek
Seri Maya
Riana Green East
Axis Res
Midfields
Saffron
Tamarind
The Zest
....

All above started with Mid-Cost condo and now you see the subsales price....of course rental never able to catch up with the price..the same for high end condo as well..

Mid range type of tenants NOT equal to Middle Eastern students! The good things about mid range tenants is it is easy to find this kind of tenants...Am i right? 

Now, do you feel regret after selling yours knowing that Mah Sing will be in as well? and how much you sell it?
if you are thinking too much about it, then CASH OUT now to priyangaf. He is sitting on the fence, eyeing for good deal...
where are the locations of your 10 properties? Walking distance to LRT? If you meet our criteria, we can help you to find the tenant too.  There are no LRT stations for Viva, Putra majestic, River city...so don't expect high rental and liquid ...and villa putra , villa puteri and Bistari near PWTC are old condo especially VPutra/VPuteri is facing the Mayland project, too near to highway...
TS is consider high density? Seri Maya even worse, 1400++ unit, super high den yet command handsome rental and don't expect low den with low price in future...Just look around recently launch condo will tell you something:

M City = more than 1K units
Element by Mayland = more than 1K
Z residence = More than 1K
The Zest, more than TS
Midfields by YTL, more than TS
Parkland more than 4K
M Sental, another high den and affordable residential play...

The positive point of high den is you have lower maintenance cost per month as it is share by all and economic of scale....How much you pay for Tamarind/Saffron/Maple for maintenance ? Min 30 sen and above right? but for some condo such as Desa Putra, Seri Maya, TS, they are paying around 20 sen only... So there is good thing about high den too provided that tenant profile is decent.

True, M Sentral is never equal to TS because:
M Sentral will be developed by Mah Sing whereby TS was developed by Monoland
M Sentral is sitting on Leasehold land whereby TS is sitting on Freehold land
M Sentral will be more den than TS
M Sentral will be selling from 700-800psf whereby TS was selling less than 300psf and subsales around 400++psf

So we cannot compare M Sentral and TS directly but what we can see is the potential of TS after M Sentral kick off. Nobody can deny the knock-on effect from this M Sentral.

and NOW is the BESTEST time to sell any properties and not just TS only judging from shaking global economies and potential our economy heading to south. Of course "Someone" will pick your unit if you are selling dirt cheap! hahahaha

True, TS will compete with other high end condos such as Capers/Setia Sky/Vue and someone also mentioned that TS is mid-cost, so how to compare? Put it this way, TS is cater for mid end tenants whereby others are catered for high end tenant. Others will not be able to compete with TS because entry cost for TS is much much lower than others. Can others rent it out 1.5K per month? I don't think so. if these high end condos are rented out it out 1.5K, they will be bleeding terribly. What I can see is these high end condos will compete among itself first before TS.

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Chief,

Its very clear that you have done through research on TS's prospects............... you should now understand why Im pretty bullish on TS's........ wink.gif

Here's a food for thought for prospects looking at TS today.......assuming Mah Sing priced their studio's at around 350k (I suspect it will be closer to 400k though)...............their buyers will need to rent their units at 2k p/m just to break even...................how much do you think a 3 bedder in TS can be rented then? Still a mere 2.5k-2.8k.................. ? rolleyes.gif
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QUOTE(Pai @ Aug 19 2011, 01:01 AM)
Minolta sir, u were absolutely right. Our fren here is indeed trying to play down TS to snatch a bargain. Priyangaf was looking for a cheap unit since December 2010...........and when he couldnt find one he had to resort to cheap tricks.................  shakehead.gif


Added on August 19, 2011, 1:10 am
Dude,

Allow me to repost your very own post in Maple that very much contradicts your claim above, ie the nearby new development dont have much impact on existing development :
Here when Capers was launched, you immediately thought it will help increase prices in Saffron, Tamarind and especially Maple since u r vested?

shocking.gif

And no wonder you are so negative when it comes to rentals and some of your claims just doesnt add up..........I would too if I was vested in large Maple units and Ampang Putra Residency........explains why your perspective in rentals is rather limited............

So fella's..........now behold our Priyangaf's real motives............. rolleyes.gif
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Bingo, I too have checked out his profile when i started noticing how his posts tended to be one sided. Just curious at first, but what I found made me suspicious. I mean, why would someone without any interest in TS suddenly pop out and just post continous negatives on it? I don't see him doing similar postings on any other projects. Usually people will ask questions or lurk quietly around reading the updates.

Though I think we can't dismiss all of his negative comments, I think he went overboard with some. But I guess if someone is resorting to tactics like this, he MUST be very very keen on TS. I would too...if only the price is better. Now not much subsales coz owners are very stiff on the asking and the potential buyers don't see it at those price currently.

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Well, just some sharing purposes. The TS potential buyers has gone down tremendously since 2nd qtr and just wonder if this something have to do with the new projects surrounding it? Or perhaps the price has really escalating to the level whereby people have better option to seek for other unit location which is also close to the amenities? We used to received at least few enquiries per week before but now hardly have any.
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QUOTE(cmk96 @ Aug 19 2011, 08:25 AM)
this discussion slowly blend selling and rental together.... will freehold or leasehold make any difference to rental price??? ..... hmm.gif
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well..this is the nature progression...
no different for leasehold or freehold when come to rental play...but perhaps different story for cap appreciation especially landed properties. When market is superhot, people don't care whether leasehold or freehold..but when the market cool down, then buyers will become picky and choose the best of the BEST!
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QUOTE(Pai @ Aug 19 2011, 09:08 AM)
Chief,

Its very clear that you have done through research on TS's prospects............... you should now understand why Im pretty bullish on TS's........  wink.gif

Here's a food for thought for prospects looking at TS today.......assuming Mah Sing priced their studio's at around 350k (I suspect it will be closer to 400k though)...............their buyers will need to rent their units at 2k p/m just to break even...................how much do you think a 3 bedder in TS can be rented then? Still a mere 2.5k-2.8k.................. ? rolleyes.gif
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u r right Pai kor...cannot just keep quiet seeing TS kena biased comments...

u r super bullish about TS, this is what I can think of...hahahahaha

if studio can rent at 2k, then 3 bedrooms at least 2.8K and above...hahahaha

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QUOTE(ronn77 @ Aug 19 2011, 09:56 AM)
Well, just some sharing purposes. The TS potential buyers has gone down tremendously since 2nd qtr and just wonder if this something have to do with the new projects surrounding it? Or perhaps the price has really escalating to the level whereby people have better option to seek for other unit location which is also close to the amenities? We used to received at least few enquiries per week before but now hardly have any.
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Maybe cause got 70 agents covering?
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QUOTE(ronn77 @ Aug 19 2011, 09:56 AM)
Well, just some sharing purposes. The TS potential buyers has gone down tremendously since 2nd qtr and just wonder if this something have to do with the new projects surrounding it? Or perhaps the price has really escalating to the level whereby people have better option to seek for other unit location which is also close to the amenities? We used to received at least few enquiries per week before but now hardly have any.
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You don't expect everyday is Sunday...only the sincere and genuine agents seeking for long term business in TS will survive and continue serve the customer. Those one-off agents already looking for elsewhere to cari makan...

This is natural progression for any newly completed properties. At the beginning, call x10 and this will gradually call x7, call x5, call x2....

Another reason is probably economy is slow down and everything will slow down as well...


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QUOTE(airline @ Aug 19 2011, 10:11 AM)
Maybe cause got 70 agents covering?
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QUOTE(ronn77 @ Aug 19 2011, 09:56 AM)
Well, just some sharing purposes. The TS potential buyers has gone down tremendously since 2nd qtr and just wonder if this something have to do with the new projects surrounding it? Or perhaps the price has really escalating to the level whereby people have better option to seek for other unit location which is also close to the amenities? We used to received at least few enquiries per week before but now hardly have any.
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Hm.....there too many variables that can cause such slowdown like agent's marketing skills, marketing medium used, price points of listing etc ......

Also, is this slowdown specific only to TS.........or prop market in general? A lot ppl lost money recently in share.....probably sentiment is bad overall.........dont know .........

Anyhow, been getting calls from agent for TS EVERYDAY asking me to sell my unit........everytime say got ready buyer.........and my answer is the same everytime...............

"will sell if they offer me 770k, else dont bother asking........"


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QUOTE(GlobalKL @ Aug 19 2011, 10:07 AM)

u r super bullish about TS, this is what I can think of...hahahahaha

if studio can rent at 2k, then 3 bedrooms at least 2.8K and above...hahahaha
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Pai, why 770k? Lucky number ke?
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QUOTE(GlobalKL @ Aug 19 2011, 06:24 AM)
Seri Maya has a lot of expat from all kind of nationalities and going to work by LRT, paying for fully furnish unit more than 3K...Don't believe, please call the agent now
1 unit in Block B rented out partial furnish 2.5K
what is wrong about Middle Eastern people? They are good paymaster...of course not all
Managing tenant is nothing but spend your time chatting with them.
True, TS will remain as mid cost condo for now and tell me which condo below are not Mid-cost?

Desa Putra,
Suria Jelatek
Seri Maya
Riana Green East
Axis Res
Midfields
Saffron
Tamarind
The Zest
....

All above started with Mid-Cost condo and now you see the subsales price....of course rental never able to catch up with the price..the same for high end condo as well..

Mid range type of tenants NOT equal to Middle Eastern students! The good things about mid range tenants is it is easy to find this kind of tenants...Am i right? 

Now, do you feel regret after selling yours knowing that Mah Sing will be in as well? and how much you sell it?
if you are thinking too much about it, then CASH OUT now to priyangaf. He is sitting on the fence, eyeing for good deal... rclxm9.gif  rclxm9.gif  rclxm9.gif  rclxm9.gif  rclxm9.gif  rclxm9.gif  rclxm9.gif  rclxm9.gif
U have mis-read my comments, my point here is STUDENTS (from the tenant pool i see so far in TS)... i am not comfortable with renting my properties to students ... btw, i sold one unit before M-Sentral announcement and one after M-Sentral announcement ... I sold both my units at an average price of 450K ... If i know some of u wanted to buy @ 460k, i would have sold them to u hehe tongue.gif

not trying to prove anyone wrong here but just that i see limited upside in TS ... just my my opinion after looking at the potential tenant pool, maintenace, potential upcoming recession etc .... I used to be very bullish like u all but i scaled down my expectations quite a bit and ultimately made my mind and sell both of them recently ...

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Well bros,

Definitely there's many agent is trying to promote TS and may one of the causes of lesser enquiries and sales but then again many agents are sharing the same sentiment experience as us so generally there's clear signs that interest has been slowing down which again may boil down to the current stock market crashes or hike in %. However sales for cheaper units are still rocking especially those below RM400k and interest on those above RM500k is at much slower pace.
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QUOTE(Minolta @ Aug 19 2011, 09:09 AM)
Bingo, I too have checked out his profile when i started noticing how his posts tended to be one sided. Just curious at first, but what I found made me suspicious. I mean, why would someone without any interest in TS suddenly pop out and just post continous negatives on it? I don't see him doing similar postings on any other projects. Usually people will ask questions or lurk quietly around reading the updates.

Though I think we can't dismiss all of his negative comments, I think he went overboard with some. But I guess if someone is resorting to tactics like this, he MUST be very very keen on TS. I would too...if only the price is better. Now not much subsales coz owners are very stiff on the asking and the potential buyers don't see it at those price currently.
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Bro Pai and Minolta,

You are so mistaken…I never told TS is a bad development or never had condemned TS in any form. Indeed it is a good development. Otherwise how sub-sales can fetch 150-200k range profits?

I am saying it again. TS is well designed mid-range condominium to suit rental market for young workers in the area. but not with the rental price range present owners are expecting. considering KL young workers’ salaries there is no possibility that they can afford 3K as rentals.

TS it is surrounded by cheaper apartments and condominiums and it's high density factor will spoil the tenants choice and price. also the LRT noise is a big setback. And the appearance is not that modern façade as other projects around the corner. These factors will also effect for its reselling price.

That’s why I stated in long run maintenance of the building will have difficulties. how can a condo can manage 3000+ tenants ? common area’s and lifts will have problems.
With lot of new developments are coming up, buyers will also be spoiled. So it may difficult to have 200k range profits by then. That’s why even I recommended to sell TS now with 200k profits. i took an example of MK and KLCC apartments.. lot of units are vacant and empty and owners are struggling to sell out even with 50k profit margin..

Yes, I was keen in buying a unit in TS , but it was well before I invested in few other properties. However even at that time after negotiating I found a unit for 350k range, but since VP was not out I thought of not getting it . end of the day I am an investor and I don't listen to any bullish things. I go by my mind.

Bro Pai, reminding you..you are the one who told you can get 3k rentals in TS. And I had to give examples from other projects around the corner to tell you that 3K is not possible for TS. I didn’t not agree that just becos a condo is lying next to a LRT station..it can fetch good rentals. New LRT’s and MRT’s going to come up soon and the train tracks will cover most of the condo’s in town in near future. So..then you think rentals will go up?? Come on…lot of vacant condominium units are in town and tenants are getting spoiled day by day. Sooner or later rental prices will stabilize.

And regard to Tamarind, Saffron and Maple scenario, it is a new township called sentul east and west developed by a well reputable developer and planning to develop with lot of infrastructural things and offices, entertainment , recreational and transport facilities etc.
So when there is a new addition to its township, like Capers, D6, D7 the price boomed up on its other projects. You have to understand this is a YTL township and is entirely different from TS. Sentul has more to give..D3, D5, Fennel, Mulbery and so on and owners can expect the price appreciation of the entire project will be in good levels.
To tell you the truth, yes I have invested some units in this project. and also some other projects with few other developers and but overall i am happy how YTL is transforming the area.

TS is sitting alone near to the LRT and no township concept or what so ever is there. so TS can be marketed sorely on its uniqueness only. as pointed out TS is same range like Viva, Putra Majestic and River City. all these condo's will not get the benefit to sell higher just bcos of Sentul East /West near by and same for TS with M sentral. The uniqueness of the condo counts. the marketability factor counts, developer reputation counts and so on.

Ask your self what's the selling point of TS? if you say.. LRT!!! you are mistaken bro. This is what I wanted to tell you. My advice, don't count too much sorely on LRT.

Hope this clarifies my standing and lot of forumers will agree with my understanding. cheers all.

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Bro Pai and Minolta,

You are so mistaken…I never told TS is a bad development or never had condemned TS in any form. Indeed it is a good development. Otherwise how sub-sales can fetch 150-200k range profits?

I am saying it again. TS is well designed mid-range condominium to suit rental market for young workers in the area. but not with the rental price range present owners are expecting. considering KL young workers’ salaries there is no possibility that they can afford 3K as rentals.

TS it is surrounded by cheaper apartments and condominiums and it's high density factor will spoil the tenants choice and price. also the LRT noise is a big setback. And the appearance is not that modern façade as other projects around the corner. These factors will also effect for its reselling price.

That’s why I stated in long run maintenance of the building will have difficulties. how can a condo can manage 3000+ tenants ? common area’s and lifts will have problems.
With lot of new developments are coming up, buyers will also be spoiled. So it may difficult to have 200k range profits by then. That’s why even I recommended to sell TS now with 200k profits. i took an example of MK and KLCC apartments.. lot of units are vacant and empty and owners are struggling to sell out even with 50k profit margin..

Yes, I was keen in buying a unit in TS , but it was well before  I invested in few other properties. However even at that time after negotiating I found a unit for 350k range, but since VP was not out I thought of not getting it .

Bro Pai, reminding you..you are the one who told you can get 3k rentals in TS.  And I had to give examples from other projects around the corner to tell you that 3K is not possible for TS. I didn’t not agree that just becos a condo is lying next to a LRT station..it can fetch good rentals. New LRT’s and MRT’s going to come up soon and the train tracks will cover most of the condo’s in town in near future. So..then you think rentals will go up?? Come on…lot of vacant condominium units are in town and tenants are getting spoiled day by day. Sooner or later rental prices will stabilize.

And regard to Tamarind, Saffron and Maple scenario, it is a new township called sentul east and west developed by a well reputable developer.
So when there is a new addition to its township, like Capers, D6, D7 the price boomed up on its surrounding YTL condos. You have to understand this is a YTL township and is different from TS.

TS is sitting alone near to the LRT and no township concept or what so ever is there. so TS can be marketed sorely on its uniqueness only. ask your self what's the selling point? if you say..only the LRT!!! you are mistaken bro.

Hope this clarifies my standing.
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Well debated and thumbs up for priyangaf ..
i think TS owners should take a step back and think .. no one is forcing or trying to influence u to sell cheaper .. we are in property bull market at this time .. everyone just feel bullish on their vested prop and always comparing against those higher end condo ..
now let's look back, from day one, ppl has been bullish bout TS quoting it as the best value vested prop .. today we are seeing a profit of 150-200k which is substantial enuff but it failed to hold up as the highest return initially expected. now for someone like pai who bought just prior to vp whom of cos paid a profit to the earlier investor expect higher profit to be gained from TS. this is normal and the motives is clear .. the later investor is always bullish expecting higher profit due to his higher entry cost.
now what i wish to bring up is .. ask urself this question, did u expect TS price to be in this range upon VP or was it higher ? if ur answer is yes, then u know pretty well how much TS gonna worth in the next future. Otherwise, stop listening cos u set ur price higher listening to bullish ppl whom really bullshiting u ..

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QUOTE(zavier98 @ Aug 19 2011, 12:47 PM)
Well debated and thumbs up for priyangaf ..
i think TS owners should take a step back and think .. no one is forcing or trying to influence u to sell cheaper .. we are in property bull market at this time .. everyone just feel bullish on their vested prop and always comparing against those higher end condo ..
now let's look back, from day one, ppl has been bullish bout TS quoting it as the best value vested prop .. today we are seeing a profit of 150-200k which is substantial enuff but it failed to hold up as the highest return initially expected. now for someone like pai who bought just prior to vp whom of cos paid a profit to the earlier investor expect higher profit to be gained from TS. this is normal and the motives is clear .. the later investor is always bullish expecting higher profit due to his higher entry cost.
now what i wish to bring up is .. ask urself this question, did u expect TS price to be in this range upon VP or was it higher ? if ur answer is yes, then u know pretty well how much TS gonna worth in the next future. Otherwise, stop listening cos u set ur price higher listening to bullish ppl whom really bullshiting u ..
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zavier98, your understanding and mine is same. I am happy atleast someone agrees with me. cheers.
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QUOTE(priyangaf @ Aug 19 2011, 11:23 AM)
Bro Pai and Minolta,
You are so mistaken…I never told TS is a bad development or never had condemned TS in any form. Indeed it is a good development. Otherwise how sub-sales can fetch 150-200k range profits?
Yes we know now u r just an overly "concerned" neighbour. brows.gif

QUOTE(priyangaf @ Aug 19 2011, 11:23 AM)
I am saying it again. TS is well designed mid-range condominium to suit rental market for young workers in the area. but not with the rental price range present owners are expecting. considering KL young workers’ salaries there is no possibility that they can afford 3K as rentals.

TS it is surrounded by cheaper apartments and condominiums and it's high density factor will spoil the tenants choice and price. also the LRT noise is a big setback. And the appearance is not that modern façade as other projects around the corner. These factors will also effect for its reselling price.
So did Casa Mutiara when it was completed in 2007. Did not stop it from doubling in values in just 3 years. Also, Maple is the most expensive prop in its surrounding ( Jln Ipoh aint any better yah) , yet that didnt stop you from buying Maple? So whats your argument here?

Again, you didnt do much homework to validate this. The fact that you bought Maple and Ampang Putra Residency penthouses tell me much about your understanding of KL's rental market.......n first pls look at Seri Maya rental and subsale rate then tell us what you think of high density situation in TS?


QUOTE(priyangaf @ Aug 19 2011, 11:23 AM)
That’s why I stated in long run maintenance of the building will have difficulties. how can a condo can manage 3000+ tenants ? common area’s and lifts will have problems.
With lot of new developments are coming up, buyers will also be spoiled. So it may difficult to have 200k range profits by then. That’s why even I recommended to sell TS now with 200k profits. i took an example of MK and KLCC apartments.. lot of units are vacant and empty and owners are struggling to sell out even with 50k profit margin..
Yet another example of you not understanding the situation. MK and KLCC apartments are empty for a reason.

And please do share with us how many new condo's today next to LRT station and FH selling at 420psf?

QUOTE(priyangaf @ Aug 19 2011, 11:23 AM)
Yes, I was keen in buying a unit in TS , but it was well before  I invested in few other properties. However even at that time after negotiating I found a unit for 350k range, but since VP was not out I thought of not getting it . end of the day I am an investor and I don't listen to any bullish things. I go by my mind.
If this is your story/explanation/cover, then so be it. Like Minolta has rightly mentioned and I discovered :

1. You seemed to be over-bullish on Sentul, whacked a few units there.
2. Discover rentals cant make it in Sentul. ( seemed never did enough homework)
3. You also indicated your interest in TS.
4. Suddenly become concerned over TS's owner's then performed a U-turn, citing we should take profit at 150k and count our blessings when TS is rented at 1.5k? (Again no homework done here, never even do rental research for Vistana next to TS)

QUOTE(priyangaf @ Aug 19 2011, 11:23 AM)
Bro Pai, reminding you..you are the one who told you can get 3k rentals in TS.  And I had to give examples from other projects around the corner to tell you that 3K is not possible for TS. I didn’t not agree that just becos a condo is lying next to a LRT station..it can fetch good rentals. New LRT’s and MRT’s going to come up soon and the train tracks will cover most of the condo’s in town in near future. So..then you think rentals will go up?? Come on…lot of vacant condominium units are in town and tenants are getting spoiled day by day. Sooner or later rental prices will stabilize.
Actually you should have read all my previous postings. All the while I have maintained TS owners should target f/f rents from 2.5k to 2.8k in TS. And my forecast was done in 2010....way before TS's completion...do look at today's rent and tell me if Im far off?

I PERSONALLY wanted to test the waters to see if I can get 3k to 3.5k, as what Seri Maya and some mid-class condo's in Wangsa Maju able to fetch. I will share with you all once I rented out my unit.


QUOTE(priyangaf @ Aug 19 2011, 11:23 AM)
And regard to Tamarind, Saffron and Maple scenario, it is a new township called sentul east and west developed by a well reputable developer anyd planning to develop with lot of infrastructural things and  offices, entertainment , recreational and transport facilities etc.
So when there is a new addition to its township, like Capers, D6, D7 the price boomed up on its other projects. You have to understand this is a YTL township and is entirely different from TS. Sentul has more to give..D3, D5, Fennel, Mulbery and so on and owners can expect the price appreciation of the entire project will be in good levels.
To tell you the truth, yes I have invested some units in this project. and also some other projects with few other developers and but overall i am happy how YTL is transforming the area.
What township in Sentul E/W? Can you call a place a township where:

1. Commercials are dead. How many units in D7 has been tenanted since VP?
2. No mall
3. No supermarket
4. No school
5. Not even 7-11

If you are happy with the pace YTL is transforming the place then tell yourself just that. I've been a Sentul boy all my life and I would touch YTL's project there due to its premium pricing over real substance. For the same price psf I'd bet on MK, period.


QUOTE(priyangaf @ Aug 19 2011, 11:23 AM)
TS is sitting alone near to the LRT and no township concept or what so ever is there. so TS can be marketed sorely on its uniqueness only. as pointed out TS is same range like Viva, Putra Majestic and River City. all these condo's will not get the benefit to sell higher just bcos of Sentul East /West  near by and same for TS with M sentral. The uniqueness of the condo counts. the marketability factor counts, developer reputation counts and so on.
Township or not, lets establish few things that TS already has n not some dream promised by the developer :

1. At least there's few 7-11s tongue.gif
2. eateries,
3. hotels
4. Colleges,
5. hospital,
6. LRT n monorail
7. Bus-station.

All the above are within 5 min walking distance. Maple, Tamanrind, Saffron can claim the same?


QUOTE(priyangaf @ Aug 19 2011, 11:23 AM)
Ask your self what's the selling point of TS? if you say.. LRT!!! you are mistaken bro. This is what I wanted to tell you. My advice, don't count too much sorely on LRT.


Do your homework mate. Tell us where other NEW HIGHRISE that has both LRT and monorail connectivity, let us know the property prices there?


QUOTE(priyangaf @ Aug 19 2011, 11:23 AM)
Hope this clarifies my standing and lot of forumers will agree with my understanding. cheers all.
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Not sure if you have anymore stand if u keep on resorting to such tricks. And this time, reply with some facts pls.


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QUOTE(priyangaf @ Aug 19 2011, 01:03 PM)
zavier98, your understanding and mine is same. I am happy atleast someone agrees with me. cheers.
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Looks like you n him both have same wavelenght............. no wonder lah.......... wink.gif

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QUOTE(Pai @ Aug 19 2011, 02:24 PM)
Yes we know now u r just an overly "concerned" neighbour.  brows.gif
So did Casa Mutiara when it was completed in 2007. Did not stop it from doubling in values in just 3 years. Also, Maple is the most expensive prop in its surrounding ( Jln Ipoh aint any better yah) , yet that didnt stop you from buying Maple? So whats your argument here?

Again, you didnt do much homework to validate this. The fact that you bought Maple and Ampang Putra Residency penthouses tell me much about your understanding of KL's rental market.......n first pls look at Seri Maya rental and subsale rate then tell us what you think of high density situation in TS?
Yet another example of you not understanding the situation. MK and KLCC apartments are empty for a reason.

And please do share with us how many new condo's today next to LRT station and FH selling at 420psf?
If this is your story/explanation/cover,  then so be it. Like Minolta has rightly mentioned and I discovered :

1. You seemed to be over-bullish on Sentul, whacked a few units there.
2. Discover rentals cant make it in Sentul. ( seemed never did enough homework)
3. You also indicated your interest in TS.
4. Suddenly become concerned over TS's owner's  then performed a U-turn, citing we should take profit at 150k and count our blessings when TS is rented at 1.5k? (Again no homework done here, never even do rental research for Vistana next to TS)
Actually you should have read all my previous postings. All the while I have maintained TS owners should target f/f rents from 2.5k to 2.8k in TS. And my forecast was done in 2010....way before TS's completion...do look at today's rent and tell me if Im far off?

I PERSONALLY wanted to test the waters to see if I can get 3k to 3.5k, as what Seri Maya and some mid-class condo's in Wangsa Maju able to fetch. I will share with you all once I rented out my unit. 
What township in Sentul E/W? Can you call a place a township where:

1. Commercials are dead. How many units in D7 has been tenanted since VP?
2. No mall
3. No supermarket
4. No school
5. Not even 7-11

If you are happy with the pace YTL is transforming the place then tell yourself just that. I've been a Sentul boy all my life and I would touch YTL's project there due to its premium pricing over real substance. For the same price psf I'd bet on MK, period.

Township or not, lets establish few things that TS already has n not some dream promised by the developer  :

1. At least there's few 7-11s  tongue.gif
2. eateries,
3. hotels
4. Colleges,
5. hospital,
6. LRT n monorail  
7. Bus-station.

All the above are within 5 min walking distance. Maple, Tamanrind, Saffron can claim the same?
Do your homework mate. Tell us where other NEW HIGHRISE that has both LRT and monorail connectivity, let us know the property prices there? 
Not sure if you have anymore stand if u keep on resorting to such tricks. And this time, reply with some facts pls.


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Looks like you n him both have same wavelenght............. no wonder lah..........  wink.gif
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ooppss i can see someone unable to absorb negative feedback ..
letz just believe in him ..
he is right. TS will definitely reach 770k .. he knows pretty well when this day gonna come.


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QUOTE(priyangaf @ Aug 19 2011, 01:03 PM)
zavier98, your understanding and mine is same. I am happy atleast someone agrees with me. cheers.
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i think mostly will agree with u .. except for some TS owners who choose not to believe.
and i certainly cant see how someone presented his fact based on SeriMaya, Savannah as a benchmark to TS.
and to tell u frankly, but that is my self preference, i rather stay in Tamarind than in TS.

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QUOTE(priyangaf @ Aug 19 2011, 11:23 AM)

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With lot of new developments are coming up, buyers will also be spoiled. So it may difficult to have 200k range profits by then. That’s why even I recommended to sell TS now with 200k profits. i took an example of MK and KLCC apartments.. lot of units are vacant and empty and owners are struggling to sell out even with 50k profit margin..
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You see, you're doing it again. Why do you talk of MK and KLCC as if its a bad word? Are you comparing TS with condos in MK or KLCC (upmarket area)? But you just said TS is a mid-ranged condo.

50k profit in MK? hahaha. Kindly point out to me which condo there sells at developer's price. Or even just one that sells at just RM50k above developer's price.
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Maybe mont kiara meridin next to toll highway
This the only 1 I know
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Maybe mont kiara meridin next to toll highway
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Hahaha. Not shooting but you're wrong of course. I know Meridin very well and its definitely much higher than developer's price. A simple research will tell you that. Even Lumina Kiara next to same highway, and even closer to toll booth (hence even noisier) is way higher. Or the ugly looking La Grande is a good RM200k above developer's price.
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QUOTE(Minolta @ Aug 19 2011, 06:18 PM)
Hahaha. Not shooting but you're wrong of course. I know Meridin very well and its definitely much higher than developer's price. A simple research will tell you that. Even Lumina Kiara next to same highway, and even closer to toll booth (hence even noisier) is way higher. Or the ugly looking La Grande is a good RM200k above developer's price.
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let's take something for good comparison okay ..
seri maya or even savannah is mid to higher end condo
TS is mid condo .. it makes sense to compare against viva and rivercity but with advantage of lrt .. so u add up the cost and u tell me ..
in my humble opinion TS is still a notch lower than Saffron despite its LRT ..
just look at the condo exterior and u know what i mean, leave it alone the interior ..
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QUOTE(zavier98 @ Aug 19 2011, 08:48 PM)
let's take something for good comparison okay ..
seri maya or even savannah is mid to higher end condo
TS is mid condo .. it makes sense to compare against viva and rivercity but with advantage of lrt .. so u add up the cost and u tell me ..
in my humble opinion TS is still a notch lower than Saffron despite its LRT ..
just look at the condo exterior and u know what i mean, leave it alone the interior ..
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As per ur wish, which i see that both of u insist TS to be in the category. But in this case, TS might surpass your poor pathetic Saffron value ( 700K ) with the impending Tamansari and ROL coming into play.
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Yeah.. TS seriously cannot compare with Seri Maya totally different range and class.
IMHO.... you can compare Seri Maya building and Saffron building because both fall under mid-high end category but not location.

something just to share.....(sorry, this is not about TS.. but he mention some good points).

Copy from mont kiara property agent name Frederick Low Z.Fei

I Love Mont Kiara, that the reasons I only service Mont Kiara area...

Many owners complaint

1. Very Hard to get tenant
2. I rented out my others property and move into Mont Kiara now...

***I wish I don't offend anybody, just a personal opinion***

What is the reasons?

IT IS BECAUSE THEY BUY EXPENSIVE AND EXPECT TO GET GOOD RETURN, POSSITIVE CASH FLOW!!!

What the?.......... You are right? Invest must get good rental or else why You invest?

Then I would ask a question? DO you really know what you doing when you start your investment in Mont Kiara?

Do you really think tenant is so stupid? and simply rent an unit regardless of price?

They also human being and know how to compare the price... You will look for the better price unit to BUY IN. What about tenant?

Normally, investor is expect to get at least 7% and above rental return...

that means if you bought 1 property at 1mil in Mont Kiara and expected to get RM 6000 rental... (regardless of partly or fully furnish)

How many people in Malaysia can afford?

Yes, you are right? Expats can afford cause currency convert to RM is very cheap to them...

But do you think Expats is brainless and dont know how to compare price and look for the best unit to suit their financial planning?

It is too obvious that, Too Many followers (second grade investor) see other people success earning in Mont Kiara property investment and they start follow and BUY IN even at higher price and expect can get good return...

So, the price keep increasing, and the rental price also keep increasing until expats also complaint Mont Kiara is overpriced...

At the end, they keep their unit vacant long time -> hopeless to get tenant-> better own stay =.= Mont Kiara is a suck place to invest...

Actually i have a formula guarantee you can rented out your unit,

Try to rent it at RM 1000 and see... You property will be super hot cake in Mont Kiara... Your phone will be spamming by inquiries or phone call...

Am I right? Actually many expats like to stay in Mont Kiara community, Sunrise, Asiaquest, Ireka do a very success job in Building up Mont Kiara.

What i trying to say here is... Think before you invest, dont simply follow other people and make the market out of control... If you bought at high price in Mont Kiara... No Problem... Rent out at lower price first, must cover your installment and management fees... no positive cash flow is fine... Just rent out first... Every Owner keep doing this and make Mont kiara happening first then only talk about rental price...

(Some old building condo owner expect the rental can follow the new condo)
(Some owner simply furnish their property, just buy some IKEA furniture, just put in and expect the rental can follow the best unit on the market)
(Some owner dont even care to upgrade their property and repair the defects and expect the rental can same or other better unit)


MANY MANY OTHERS ISSUE, I have a lot of stories to tell after working 3 years in Mont Kiara market...

What do you think? Please give some opinion... Above are just my personal perspective... NO HARM, NO OFFEND and thank you for reading

For me, if you know how to choose property. Mont Kiara still a good place to invest... THanks


and another one from different post about MK also...

copy from another agent Ricky Leong


Y move in to MK? Because unit can't rent out or selling out?? Like some of my owner can't sell or rent out the MK unit at the end rent out Idamansara and move to MK...

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is this a MK thread? seems this thread got hijacked and deviated liao.....



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QUOTE(priyangaf @ Aug 19 2011, 04:13 PM)
Pai,

If you think RM 500/- sqft for Capers or RM 250/- sqft for Ampang Putra or RM 280/- for Tamarind or RM 405/- is not worth for Maple..what levels you think worth to invest on subsales in MK? please you tell me.

TS RM 420/- levels worth than all above?

Please share.
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Again, please be transparent n stop giving half truths?

Save for Capers, can you still get TODAY what you just quote me? :

- AmPutra at 250psf?
- Tamarind at 280psf?
- Maple at 405psf?


U claimed before that just because Capers is priced at 500psf......Maple, Saffron and Tamarind will also reach 500psf? Let me reiterate what Maple, Saffron and Tamarind lacks VS what TS has today :

1. 7-11s
2. Eateries,
3. Hotel
4. Colleges,
5. Hospital,
6. LRT n monorail
7. Bus-station.
8. Banks

None of the above are available within 5min walk from Sentul E&W condo. I leave it to the public to judge whats the real value of TS wink.gif


Added on August 19, 2011, 11:11 pm
QUOTE(zavier98 @ Aug 19 2011, 05:03 PM)
ooppss i can see someone unable to absorb negative feedback ..
letz just believe in him ..
he is right. TS will definitely reach 770k .. he knows pretty well when this day gonna come.


Added on August 19, 2011, 5:37 pm

i think mostly will agree with u .. except for some TS owners who choose not to believe.
and i certainly cant see how someone presented his fact based on SeriMaya, Savannah as a benchmark to TS.
and to tell u frankly, but that is my self preference, i rather stay in Tamarind than in TS.
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You certainly talk a big game despite having only Setia Walk, and yet to made any money from it?? rolleyes.gif

.........n do share with us how much u plan to sell/rent your SW........I'd luv to see you finally put your money where your mouth is? brows.gif


Added on August 19, 2011, 11:17 pm
QUOTE(zavier98 @ Aug 19 2011, 08:48 PM)
let's take something for good comparison okay ..
seri maya or even savannah is mid to higher end condo
TS is mid condo .. it makes sense to compare against viva and rivercity but with advantage of lrt .. so u add up the cost and u tell me ..

in my humble opinion TS is still a notch lower than Saffron despite its LRT ..
just look at the condo exterior and u know what i mean, leave it alone the interior ..
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Zavier,

Pls do share with us how do you differentiate a mid condo VS a mid-higher condo? Do amuse us with your findings..........if you have any.......... brows.gif

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it's getting hot in here....
maybe someone who isn't vested in either projects should give their 2 ccents worth to mediate and also act as a judge?
hehe...
debate on. love to read the exchange of views here.
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QUOTE(jet2020 @ Aug 19 2011, 10:48 PM)
is this a MK thread? seems this thread got hijacked and deviated liao.....
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Are you one of the TS owner?



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IMHO.
1. KLCC as "almost empty" and MK as "ghost town". - too over Exaggerated..... shocking.gif maybe future....nobody know
2. 770K..... wow.... after 5 or 10 years? wondering....interesting.

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QUOTE(HELLO HELLO @ Aug 19 2011, 11:29 PM)
Are you one of the TS owner?
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why? Got prize or not if i gib the answer? tongue.gif

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QUOTE(jet2020 @ Aug 19 2011, 11:37 PM)
why? Got prize or not if i gib the answer?  tongue.gif
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IMHO.
1. KLCC as "almost empty" and MK as "ghost town". - too over Exaggerated..... maybe future....nobody know
2. 770K..... wow.... after 5 or 10 years? wondering....interesting.

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QUOTE(HELLO HELLO @ Aug 19 2011, 11:43 PM)
1. KLCC as "almost empty" and MK as "ghost town". - too over Exaggerated.....  maybe future....nobody know
2. 770K..... wow.... after 5 or 10 years? wondering....interesting.
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1. Precisely. To the fella who is claiming this.......only Sentul is good hmm.gif

2. 770k should be do-able upon completion on Tamansari. When will Tamansari completes? Only GOD knows............ wink.gif
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for discussion sake
seri maya when first completed, what was the rental going for? vs today
seri maya got branding though by tan& tan
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QUOTE(airline @ Aug 20 2011, 12:31 AM)
for discussion sake
seri maya when first completed, what was the rental going for? vs today
seri maya got branding though by tan& tan
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From what I know the reason why seri Maya is famous due to the facts below

1. Under kelana jaya line, lots of MNC company in jalan ampang. (that's where the china expatriates located, i know becoz i worked in one the china company in klcc)

2. The only lrt route going into another kiang valley metropolitan - petaling jaya

3. The only lrt route that goes into klcc

4. Surrounding of seri Maya is quite decent and clean. Looks safer ( a bit subjective) smile.gif, though it is dangerous everywhere in klang valley.

5. Located in the branch road of famous jalan ampang ( about 4-5 km , 20 mins at most from klcc to seri Maya)

Just my 2 cents.. Cheers guys


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QUOTE(seanlee31 @ Aug 20 2011, 02:35 AM)
From what I know the reason why seri Maya is famous due to the facts below

1. Under kelana jaya line, lots of MNC company in jalan ampang. (that's where the china expatriates located, i know becoz i worked in one the china company in klcc)

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770k IMO is quite over the top.
Ts acquisition price is 250k
Say aim 750k to sell, time horizon say 10 years
Every year up 50k....

Ts value can only go up, in the Span of say 10 years
Ts is recession proof, ts maintenance will remain top notch
Ts is not replaceabl
Lastly ts is invincible...
If this happens ts would be one of the most appreciated apartment in 1 Malaysia


Added on August 20, 2011, 3:50 amCome let's buy abit to keep now...


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QUOTE(Pai @ Aug 19 2011, 10:34 AM)
Hm.....there too many variables that can cause such slowdown like agent's marketing skills, marketing medium used, price points of listing etc ......

Also, is this slowdown specific only to TS.........or prop market in general? A lot ppl lost money recently in share.....probably sentiment is bad overall.........dont know .........

Anyhow, been getting calls from agent for TS EVERYDAY asking me to sell my unit........everytime say got ready buyer.........and my answer is the same everytime...............

"will sell if they offer me 770k, else dont bother asking........"
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Added on August 19, 2011, 10:35 am
Aim higher fren  smile.gif
*hint - Seri Maya*
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Slowdown? Possible but the first and hardly hit will be high end properties and big size unit like those in KLCC and MK and by the way, what is the occupancy rate for Maple? As far as I know, initially it was struggle to fill up the whole place as well with exorbitant maintenance fees

Pai kor, wow, you still receive calls from agent EVERYDAY..your unit must be damn cantik, awesome view, high floor, the crème de la crème!

RM 770K is possible but not right now. Let me guess how you get 770K

RM700psf x 1100 sf = RM 770K right?

M Sentral will be selling from min 700psf to 800psf and you are taking the min of M Sentral, discount to M Sentral.
If RM 770K is not doable, then let us minus some more...

RM 650psf x 1100sf = RM 715K...this is the price Vue Res is selling right now and 60++% sold. Means there is demand for around 650psf. So RM700K probably doable!

So let us see once Tamansari project is up and running and how much this TS can command.

Please bear in mind that Tamansari is a big project comparable to Sentul project but accessibility and amenities are much better than Sentul at this moment, fronting Jalan Tun Razak, Monorel, LRT, Taxi, Bus Stand, Hotel, PWTC, College, Hospital, Titiwangsa Lake...and so many.

YTL needs to move fast. They have been talking about Sentul rejuvenation since 2000 and what we can see now are just few condos and commercial centre. The same goes for Tamansari project, have been on drawing board since 2006 and finally will kick start soon.

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Woah my 770k price for TS seems to be making headlines, people must think Im craaazeeeee....................... so let me offer some perspective and past experiences :


Casa Mutiara - Developer price starts at 300psf. I bought it in 2007 for 400psf.
Rented at avg 15% yield.
Transacted 2 months back at 850psf so over 100% caps over 4 years.
For original owners who bought at 300psf price has almost tripled.


Maytower - Developer's price 90k. Bought my 1st unit subsale at 180k (100% appreciation for 1st owner) in 2008
rented at 12% avg yield till today.
Left with my last unit and sold my 2nd unit early this year at 320k so roughly 75% gains over 2 years.
For those ori owners who bought the 351 sqf from Mayland at less than 100k, price has already tripled.


Axis Ampang - Dev price 100k. Bought my 1st subsale unit at at 145k in 2010. ( thats already 45% gains for previous owner)
Recently a forumer taikor here and 2 more fella wanted to buy my unit at min 290k....which I declined as Im holding for 330k. Using 290k as a benchmark......thats 100% appreciation in less than 18 months.
Currently renting out on 15% yield.
For original owners who bought at 100k price has almost tripled.


Anyone who has been to Casa Mutiara, Axis or Maytower will tell you 2 things :

1. There's nothing fantastic about the maintenance or the built quality of these properties - Compare to Maple n Seri Maya, their maintenance looks crap blush.gif

2. Its surrounding area isnt great at all, feels very low cost-ish.

Yet price has almost tripled for all 3 props VS their launch dev price. Why is that? smile.gif

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QUOTE(supersp @ Aug 19 2011, 10:38 AM)
U have mis-read my comments, my point here is STUDENTS (from the tenant pool i see so far in TS)... i am not comfortable with renting my properties to students ... btw, i sold one unit before M-Sentral announcement and one after M-Sentral announcement ... I sold both my units at an average price of 450K ... If i know some of u wanted to buy @ 460k, i would have sold them to u hehe  tongue.gif

not trying to prove anyone wrong here but just that i see limited upside in TS ... just my my opinion after looking at the potential tenant pool, maintenace, potential upcoming recession etc .... I used to be very bullish like u all but i scaled down my expectations quite a bit and ultimately made my mind and sell both of them recently ...
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From what I see, TS tenants are students from nearby colleges (local + foreigners) and working people (local + foreigners). As mentioned by airline, working people from SG is paying 2.4K and do bear in mind that not everyone is renting out, some are owner-occupier. How do you know these are owner-occupier units? Very simple, if the reno is grand come with plaster ceiling, hack there and here, re-wiring, then this is owner-occupier units.

You have shallow view on TS tenant market. Put it this way, in any development especially mid-cost development, there tend to have students as their very first tenants. Seri Maya went thru the same fate as well and if I am not mistaken, still have students renting Seri Maya too. There are few type of students:

1) Those kasar type. then forget this group
2) decent type, will take care your place
3) Kid students accompany by their parents to study in Malaysia especially coming from Middle East countries e.g. Iran, Iraq...They are rich and afford to study at International School in Malaysia.

Saffron and Tanmarind also have student units too!!

You sold both at average of 450K but I believe probably you can get better price if you can hold longer but depend whether your units are the choice units. If your units like Pai kor one, then probably you can get handsome profit too.


Added on August 20, 2011, 7:28 am
QUOTE(Pai @ Aug 20 2011, 07:13 AM)
Woah my 770k price for TS seems to be making headlines, people must think Im craaazeeeee....................... so let me offer some perspective and past experiences :
Casa Mutiara - Developer price starts at 300psf. I bought it in 2007 for 400psf.
Rented at avg 15% yield.
Transacted 2 months back at 850psf so over 100% caps over 4 years.
For original owners who bought at 300psf price has almost tripled.
Maytower - Developer's price 90k. Bought my 1st unit subsale at 180k (100% appreciation for 1st owner) in 2008
rented at 12% avg yield till today.
Left with my last unit and sold my 2nd unit early this year at 320k so roughly 75% gains over 2 years.
For those ori owners who bought the 351 sqf from Mayland at less than 100k, price has already tripled.
Axis Ampang - Dev price 100k. Bought my 1st subsale unit at at 145k in 2010. ( thats already 45% gains for previous owner)
Recently a forumer taikor here and 2 more fella wanted to buy my unit at min 290k....which I declined as Im holding for 330k. Using 290k as a benchmark......thats 100% appreciation in less than 18 months.
Currently renting out on 15% yield. 
For original owners who bought at 100k price has almost tripled.
Anyone who has been to Casa Mutiara, Axis or Maytower will tell you 2 things :

1. There's nothing fantastic about the maintenance or the built quality of these properties -  Compare to Maple n Seri Maya, their maintenance looks crap  blush.gif

2. Its surrounding area isnt great at all, feels very low cost-ish. 

Yet price has almost tripled for all 3 props VS their launch dev price. Why is that?   smile.gif
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Because LRT...hahahahahaha

Another example, the developer price for Seri Maya for 1st phase was around 200K only and now asking price is around 550K..it is almost 275% gain for 1st owner!!!

Again, another coincidence? rclxm9.gif rclxm9.gif rclxm9.gif rclxm9.gif rclxm9.gif rclxm9.gif rclxm9.gif

during 2008-2009 financial crisis, KLCC and MK HIGH-END condos were hit hardly but Seri Maya stands tall...No impact...why? Because Seri Maya just 1/3 price of those high end condos in MK and KLCC + LRT and Seri Maya never claim itself as high end but more to Mid-cost, affordable adobe for the mass, 1400++ units, super high den development and first and last from Tan & Tan!!!

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QUOTE(yoki @ Aug 20 2011, 03:49 AM)
770k IMO is quite over the top.
Ts acquisition price is 250k
Say aim 750k to sell, time horizon say 10 years
Every year up 50k....

Ts value can only go up, in the Span of say 10 years
Ts is recession proof, ts maintenance will remain top notch
Ts is not replaceabl
Lastly ts is invincible...
If this happens ts would be one of the most appreciated apartment in 1 Malaysia


Added on August 20, 2011, 3:50 amCome let's buy abit to keep now...
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you are sharp, yoki ..
i think when someone demands hard fact, he should do the same and not give irresponsible remarks ..
by claiming 770k when tamansari complete and then tell u "only god knows when" is so hilarious ..
i can also claim my prop increase by folds when our country reach developed nation .. doh.gif
obviously someone is trying hard to confuse fellow forumers in believing TS will appreciate much further ..

in general, condo appreciates the most during construction, then at one point becomes rather stagnant and if not well maintained, will drop in value.
new development within vicinity has little impact on the existing condo especially when it is a self contained development .. least to say it is a different product offering altogether ..
ever wonder why ppl are buying new launches and not rushing to buy existing condo in nearby launches ?


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Today's Newspaper to let
Casa idaman rm1.3k
Viva saffron f/f rm2.3k
Titiwangsa sentral rm1.7k nr lrt
Under the same ad

Wth the agent
Put la 2.5k

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400k now is fair, future 770k, hmm............I dont buy it.




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QUOTE(GlobalKL @ Aug 20 2011, 07:20 AM)
Another example, the developer price for Seri Maya for 1st phase was around 200K only and now asking price is around 550K..it is almost 275% gain for 1st owner!!!

Again, another coincidence?  rclxm9.gif  rclxm9.gif  rclxm9.gif  rclxm9.gif  rclxm9.gif  rclxm9.gif  rclxm9.gif

during 2008-2009 financial crisis, KLCC and MK HIGH-END condos were hit hardly but Seri Maya stands tall...No impact...why? Because Seri Maya just 1/3 price of those high end condos in MK and KLCC + LRT and Seri Maya never claim itself as high end but more to Mid-cost, affordable adobe for the mass, 1400++ units, super high den development and first and last from Tan & Tan!!!
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Spot on mate.......genuinely think TS will be another coincident waiting to happen........and also if we r gonna have downturns......It's impact to TS should not be too hard VS other 'prettier' offerings..... wink.gif

Boss another hint for you to consider.......do checkout all new or recently completed high-rise that has both LRT n monorail connectivity......u'll be pleasantly surprised with the findings.......from both rental n selling price psf...... wink.gif


Added on August 20, 2011, 12:22 pm
QUOTE(airline @ Aug 20 2011, 10:18 AM)
Today's Newspaper to let
Casa idaman rm1.3k
Viva saffron f/f rm2.3k
Titiwangsa sentral rm1.7k nr lrt
Under the same ad

Wth the agent
Put la 2.5k
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To be fair......I think it's correct......there r some low floor, shop facing units in TS.......bare unit rental should be thereabouts........


The pricing for Viva /saffron should correct as well.........far cry from from the 1.5k quoted by some vested fella looking to pounce TS on the cheap.... whistling.gif

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[quote=Pai,Aug 20 2011, 12:17 PM]
Spot on mate.......genuinely think TS will be another coincident waiting to happen........and also if we r gonna have downturns......It's impact to TS should not be too hard VS other 'prettier' offerings..... wink.gif

Boss another hint for you to consider.......do checkout all new or recently completed high-rise that has both LRT n monorail connectivity......u'll be pleasantly surprised with the findings.......from both rental n selling price psf...... wink.gif


Pai, I got to agree with you, just to share with you that my unit in suria jelatek just rented out last week for 3k/month. I couldnt ask for more for the low entry price and it is near jelatek lrt and 100m to GE mall.

I`m really interested in TS , just went there just now to view a unit in block B at 37th floor. this block only has 2 lifts and I need to wait more than 10minutes for the lift. cant imagine how long do we have to wait when most of the tenants already moving in.


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QUOTE(Pai @ Aug 20 2011, 12:17 PM)
Spot on mate.......genuinely think TS will be another coincident waiting to happen........and also if we r gonna have downturns......It's impact to TS should not be too hard VS other 'prettier' offerings..... wink.gif

Boss another hint for you to consider.......do checkout all new or recently completed high-rise that has both LRT n monorail connectivity......u'll be pleasantly surprised with the findings.......from both rental n selling price psf...... wink.gif


Added on August 20, 2011, 12:22 pm
To be fair......I think it's correct......there r some low floor, shop facing units in TS.......bare unit rental should be thereabouts........
The pricing for Viva /saffron should correct as well.........far cry from from the 1.5k quoted by some vested fella looking to pounce TS on the cheap....  whistling.gif
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which one under "prettier" offerrings? Sky Res? Vue Res? Caper?

the only one that i can think of with both LRT n Monorail is................................








KL SENTRAL



and KL Sentral is 1kpsf!

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[quote=mzmz,Aug 23 2011, 05:24 PM]
[quote=Pai,Aug 20 2011, 12:17 PM]
Spot on mate.......genuinely think TS will be another coincident waiting to happen........and also if we r gonna have downturns......It's impact to TS should not be too hard VS other 'prettier' offerings..... wink.gif

Boss another hint for you to consider.......do checkout all new or recently completed high-rise that has both LRT n monorail connectivity......u'll be pleasantly surprised with the findings.......from both rental n selling price psf...... wink.gif
Pai, I got to agree with you, just to share with you that my unit in suria jelatek just rented out last week for 3k/month. I couldnt ask for more for the low entry price and it is near jelatek lrt and 100m to GE mall.

I`m really interested in TS , just went there just now to view a unit in block B at 37th floor. this block only has 2 lifts and I need to wait more than 10minutes for the lift. cant imagine how long do we have to wait when most of the tenants already moving in.
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how much for block B at 37th floor TS unit that you viewed? The lift slow probably due to reno period as contractors blocking the lift to load and unload the goods. if you go during normal hours like before 9am or after 5:30pm, then the lift is very fast..it is high speed lift, heard from developer...once all units reno done probably after 6/12 months, then you can expect good lift to be used!

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Property boom, TS price expected to skyrocket
Property crash, TS shall have minimal impact due to other 'prettier' offering ..
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QUOTE(mzmz @ Aug 23 2011, 05:24 PM)
Pai, I got to agree with you, just to share with you that my unit in suria jelatek just rented out last week for 3k/month. I couldnt ask for more for the low entry price andt it is near jelatek lrt and 100m to GE mall.

I`m really interested in TS , just went there just now to view a unit in block B at 37th floor. this block only has 2 lifts and I need to wait more than 10minutes for the lift. cant imagine how long do we have to wait when most of the tenants already moving in.
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chief if youplan to masuk TS............blok B today is not the best buy.........premium a bit diff to justify with only 2 lifts........and more importantly Mah Sing's new project.................

and boss can you share what the latest transacted price psf for the LH Suria Jelatek............. notworthy.gif


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QUOTE(GlobalKL @ Aug 23 2011, 06:32 PM)
which one under "prettier" offerrings? Sky Res? Vue Res? Caper?

the only one that i can think of with both LRT n Monorail is................................
KL SENTRAL
and KL Sentral is 1kpsf!
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got few others......... :

1. Hang Tuah

2. Bukit Nenas/Dang Wangi

Once u dive deeper............there massive premium attached to props with both LRT n Monorail connectivity..........ppl who has zero experince investing in LRT based residentials will never understand this............ wink.gif

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[quote=Pai,Aug 24 2011, 12:54 AM]
chief if youplan to masuk TS............blok B today is not the best buy.........premium a bit diff to justify with only 2 lifts........and more importantly Mah Sing's new project.................

and boss can you share what the latest transacted price psf for the LH Suria Jelatek............. notworthy.gif



high floor block b asking for >550k. I think its a bit too much for a 38 storey building with 2 lifts. prefer block A as it comes with 4 lifts each. looking for mid and lower floor as I cant stomach high floors come with generally low handrail(height phobia). my budget is around 450-460k otherwise I will give a miss.

My suria jelatek , I was called by a buyer(not agent) who agreed with my price of 525k which I eventually did not proceed with the sale when I managed to find tenant for 3k. was told that about 60-80 units are in the process of changing name.for high floor the average asking price is 550k despite negative comments by certain quarters but the location tells u everything.

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QUOTE(Pai @ Aug 24 2011, 12:54 AM)
chief if youplan to masuk TS............blok B today is not the best buy.........premium a bit diff to justify with only 2 lifts........and more importantly Mah Sing's new project.................

and boss can you share what the latest transacted price psf for the LH Suria Jelatek.............  notworthy.gif


Added on August 24, 2011, 12:57 am
got few others......... :

1. Hang Tuah

2. Bukit Nenas/Dang Wangi

Once u dive deeper............there massive premium attached to props with both LRT n Monorail connectivity..........ppl who has zero experince investing in LRT based residentials will never understand this............  wink.gif
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u sure ? i have my vested prop near LRT but still cant understand ? u forgot where my vested prop is .. whistling.gif
from what i see, prop near lrt normally command rental premium but due to the fact, that they may not be no.1 criteria for homestay, capital appreciation is limited. and most of the time, u see typical condo nearby lrt with worndown facilities due to many renters, hence caps are normally limited.
but Pai always have optimistic mind .. interesting to see how he normally double up his expected price from the market price ..
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Pai kor, wow, you still receive calls from agent EVERYDAY..your unit must be damn cantik, awesome view, high floor, the crème de la crème!
No need damn cantik... mine super low floor unit also I keep getting calls from agents EVERYDAY...

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No need damn cantik... mine super low floor unit also I keep getting calls from agents EVERYDAY...
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Yes everyday getting pissing me off phone calls from agent
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Any owners here have not rented out their units in TS yet? Need a fully furnished unit to rent.
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Any owners here have not rented out their units in TS yet? Need a fully furnished unit to rent.
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how much u offering. am sure many owners here
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RM2000. Any offers? I welcome pm.... smile.gif

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QUOTE(zavier98 @ Aug 24 2011, 07:30 AM)
u sure ? i have my vested prop near LRT but still cant understand ? u forgot where my vested prop is ..  whistling.gif
from what i see, prop near lrt normally command rental premium but due to the fact, that they may not be no.1 criteria for homestay, capital appreciation is limited. and most of the time, u see typical condo nearby lrt with worndown facilities due to many renters, hence caps are normally limited.
but Pai always have optimistic mind .. interesting to see how he normally double up his expected price from the market price ..
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Well, "your vested prop near LRT" has yet to be completed, LRT has yet to commence and you've yet to make any money on it right? Your limited perspective today comes from that single limited experience...........

My perspective and opinion comes from my personal experience of having bought more than 10 props near COMPLETED LRTs, and in all occasions has been "lucky" enough to enjoy :

1. Avg 80% to 120% capital gains
2. Double digit yields from 10% to 16%

So yes ............. I dont think you understand our perspective today................bcoz if you do understand............ there's no way you would have bought your Setia Walk............ wink.gif
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woah! sweat.gif panas!

anyway, you've got a point. For me, i've always focused on high res areas away from LRT's....i guess I nvr did focus on that play.

But, I can see the merits of a LRT play, especially in the past 3 years....a double combo of cap and yields.....particularly for the early investor.
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Well, "your vested prop near LRT" has yet to be completed, LRT has yet to commence and you've yet to make any money on it right? Your limited  perspective today comes from that single limited experience...........

My perspective and opinion comes from my personal experience of having bought more than 10 props near COMPLETED LRTs, and in all occasions has been "lucky" enough to enjoy :

1. Avg 80% to 120% capital gains
2. Double digit yields from 10% to 16%

So yes ............. I dont think you understand our perspective today................bcoz if you do understand............ there's no way you would have bought your Setia Walk............ wink.gif
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actually i know many titiwangsa sentral owners who bought setia walk as well
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Looks like some TS unit already got transacted at 525k................. gotta thank Mah Sing for this ^^

http://www.propertywtf.com.my/north-east/t...psf-t12-20.html


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Block b with 2 lifts but long wait for lift maybe. Block a my high floor 38th at rm480k if anyone keen still have
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QUOTE(airline @ Aug 25 2011, 12:00 AM)
actually i know many titiwangsa sentral owners who bought setia walk as well
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I've been lucky enough to know few decent and some great investors............n none of them bought Setia Walk............ as was widely acknowledge back then that SW was overpriced............. none of them can understand why would anyone buy a single bedder in puchong for close to 300k when you could buy a TS 3 bedder in city center, Tropics, all for less than 250k..........

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I've been lucky enough to know few decent and some great investors............n none of them bought Setia Walk residentials............ as was widely acknowledge back then that SW was overpriced............. none of them can understand why would anyone buy a single bedder in puchong for close to 300k when you could buy a TS 3 bedder in city center, Tropics,  all for less than 250k..........

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yesterday went to view few units through agent ..I dont like the design..look like very cheap flat.wondering if expatriates going to stay there.in KLCC and BUKIT BINTANG their rental also below RM3k for 2 or 3 bedroom.I think the rental for ttitiwangsa sentral cant go high and capital appreaciation pls forget it as the price is too high now..RM450k for a cheap titiwangsa sentral!!!!!!!!
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450k is normal already. Can hit 600k is another matter
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actually i know many titiwangsa sentral owners who bought setia walk as well
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I don't expect SW to be a fantastic investment like TS, but i do expect a decent return ... IMHO, COCR of 500% should be achievable..

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450k is normal already. Can hit 600k is another matter
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I dont think so..This titiwangsa sentral is so cheap in design.when we go out from their unit,outside is like cheap flat.OMG!!!!!!maybe rm300k i will consider
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QUOTE(ken8120 @ Aug 25 2011, 12:30 PM)
yesterday went to view few units through agent ..I dont like the design..look like very cheap flat.wondering if expatriates going to stay there.in KLCC and BUKIT BINTANG their rental also  below RM3k for 2 or 3 bedroom.I think the rental for ttitiwangsa sentral cant go high and capital appreaciation pls forget it as the price is too high now..RM450k for a cheap titiwangsa sentral!!!!!!!!
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We cannot have 1 shoe fit all. Cheap flat? wow..cheap flat also so expensive, something wrong with the existing owners.


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I dont think so..This titiwangsa sentral is so cheap in design.when we go out from their unit,outside is like cheap flat.OMG!!!!!!maybe rm300k i will consider
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Do you mean the facade like cheap flat or surrounded by cheap flat? I want to buy at 308K. Anyone wants to sell, please PM me... rclxm9.gif rclxm9.gif rclxm9.gif rclxm9.gif rclxm9.gif rclxm9.gif

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We cannot have 1 shoe fit all. Cheap flat? wow..cheap flat also so expensive, something wrong with the existing owners.


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Do you mean the facade like cheap flat or surrounded by cheap flat? I want to buy at 308K. Anyone wants to sell, please PM me... rclxm9.gif  rclxm9.gif  rclxm9.gif  rclxm9.gif  rclxm9.gif  rclxm9.gif
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yes..really cheap.who want to buy at RM450k!only waterfish with no investment sense rush to buy thought this is a good buy!!!!!!hahahahhahahah
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QUOTE(ken8120 @ Aug 25 2011, 12:30 PM)
yesterday went to view few units through agent ..I dont like the design..look like very cheap flat.wondering if expatriates going to stay there.in KLCC and BUKIT BINTANG their rental also  below RM3k for 2 or 3 bedroom.I think the rental for ttitiwangsa sentral cant go high and capital appreaciation pls forget it as the price is too high now..RM450k for a cheap titiwangsa sentral!!!!!!!!
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hm..........a forumer with zero postings before in propertytalk suddenly decides to make 3 post ........ all attacking TS............... not suspicious at all rolleyes.gif

..............anyway Im keen to "learn" from you what do you think today is a better subsale buy VS TS.........?


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i am one of them  smile.gif
I don't expect SW to be a fantastic investment like TS, but i do expect a decent return ... IMHO, COCR of 500% should be achievable..
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all I can say chief............is congrats!!! U r definitely better off buying TS + SW than those who are buying SW only.............

I also noticed that u bought Zest too right?

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all I can say chief............is congrats!!! U r definitely better off buying TS + SW than those who are buying SW only.............

I also noticed that u bought Zest too right?
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no unfortunately i didn't buy zest ... If i have the guts to whack all three, TS+Zest+SW, i would be a super duper happy man now ...
But this TS, to b honest, so far, COCR is the best among all my investments , almost 900% ! rclxms.gif
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5/95 is a very good reason to invest in setia walk
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[quote=Pai,Aug 26 2011, 06:19 AM]
hm..........a forumer with zero postings before in propertytalk suddenly decides to make 3 post ........ all attacking TS............... not suspicious at all rolleyes.gif

..............anyway Im keen to "learn" from you what do you think today is a better subsale buy VS TS.........?

zero posting in property talk doent mean i cant post and give my opinion.i am not attacking just say out wat in my mind.Only owner in this thread say good things about titiwangsa sentral.They want to push their unit higher.Dont get trap !not believe me?read few replied here by investor who doent own titiwangsa sentral really supporting wat i am saying..NOT A GOOD INVESTMENT for BOTH RENTAL AND CAPITAL APPRECIATION FOR THIS CHEAP TITIWANGSA SENTRAL.WE are all very smart and advise those new in property avoid titiwangsa sentral as they are a lot properties better.

example
MUTIARA VILLA around rm450k to RM550k rental rm2800 above
inai imbi sale rm450000 to rm550000 rental 2500 above
berjaya apartment rm450000 to rm550000 rental rm28100 above
and many more

titiwangsa sentral is new but really look bad and look like flat.not many expatriates will stay there..the rental will be around rm1600..


LOOK AT IPROPERTY.COM(PROOF)
ALL WANTED RENTAL OUT RM1600 TO RM1800.THE OWNER NOT DARE TO RENOVATE and without the furniture basic unit.because they not dare to invest more in renovation as they know even they put in anothe few 10k for renovation..they wont get higher in terms of rental..and all the tenants there also will become like cheap tenants eg nurse and low class tenants as student wont take care the unit..Thats why no one dare to renovate for rent out



Added on August 26, 2011, 1:16 pmlook at

casa mutiara
maytower
taragon
and other high class condo


the owner willing to furnish and renovate as they know they can get good tenants and good rental..but not for titiwangsa sentral most want to rent out in basic unit not even a sofa!! WHY!!!!!!!!

ONLY PLP WITH BRAIN KNOWS


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QUOTE(Pai @ Aug 24 2011, 10:42 PM)
Well, "your vested prop near LRT" has yet to be completed, LRT has yet to commence and you've yet to make any money on it right? Your limited  perspective today comes from that single limited experience...........

My perspective and opinion comes from my personal experience of having bought more than 10 props near COMPLETED LRTs, and in all occasions has been "lucky" enough to enjoy :

1. Avg 80% to 120% capital gains
2. Double digit yields from 10% to 16%

So yes ............. I dont think you understand our perspective today................bcoz if you do understand............ there's no way you would have bought your Setia Walk............ wink.gif
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u are a super duper smart arse . thumbup.gif ur investment generate generous return .. ur game play is the best of all ..
so what about other investment strategy ..
but for sw hor ... i think u are the one that dont understand ... i never get SW because of LRT .. it has never been my gameplay for that one .. and dont just assume i have got one only experience .. kid grows to adult, and adult grows older .. icon_rolleyes.gif
now about ur perspective, sw despite being described by you as the worst investment in puchong has proven otherwise .. at 320k it was deemed overprice at that time but today the paper return has surpass my expectation .. and i m not sure ur vested zest can generate higher abs return than sw .. so tell me what makes ur perspective so true and deemed reliable ..
TS was the most invested prop by the "guru" in the forum .. was dubbed as the highest return of all ..
so now tell me how many is satisfied with the current price that they can sell .. or is it because u get in later with higher entry cost, u want to push the price higher resorting in forum promotion ?
despite u owning multiple props, ur knowledge is limited to ur own gameplay and cant seem to understand others ..
u must understand this is a forum .. ppl can judge .. u have ur own perspective, but that doesnt mean it is correct due to the number of props u hold .. dont tell me u never hear of any rich guy who went bancrupt .. put more logic and sense rather than just quoting of ur return ..


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no unfortunately i didn't buy zest ... If i have the guts to whack all three, TS+Zest+SW, i would be a super duper happy man now ...
But this TS, to b honest, so far, COCR is the best among all my investments , almost 900% !  rclxms.gif
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i think u might have gotten a different unit than mine in SW.
my COCR is at least 1000% in SW and that is already on the conservative side.


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I've been lucky enough to know few decent and some great investors............n none of them bought Setia Walk............ as was widely acknowledge back then that SW was overpriced............. none of them can understand why would anyone buy a single bedder in puchong for close to 300k when you could buy a TS 3 bedder in city center, Tropics,  all for less than 250k..........
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i am actually glad u said no investor interested in SW .. rclxm9.gif
what more important now is .. the paper profit has surprised all this investor including u, isnt it ..

that's y u dont understand ... to me, u never put the right comparison .. u can onli see from ur pov .. the bad thing is u dont listen .. hahaa ..
it doesnt matter u understand or not, the fact is the expected return has surprised many .. so u may want to take it as ur case study .. but i doubt u can understand .. rclxub.gif


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ken, u are spot on .. sometimes forum like this is taken with a hidden agenda .. haha ..
as they are vested, they will only promote ..
i can accept to a certain limit .. but sometimes too exaggerated, i also beh tahan .. haha
anyway welcome to the most highly vested prop by forumers, but to me the return is so so onli ..


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Actually only phase 3 vio setia walk the lrt confirmed.
Those brio and solace just take risk


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QUOTE(zavier98 @ Aug 26 2011, 04:25 PM)
u are a super duper smart arse . thumbup.gif ur investment generate generous return .. ur game play is the best of all ..
so what about other investment strategy ..
but for sw hor ... i think u are the one that dont understand ... i never get SW because of LRT .. it has never been my gameplay for that one .. and dont just assume i have got one only experience .. kid grows to adult, and adult grows older ..  icon_rolleyes.gif
now about ur perspective, sw despite being described by you as the worst investment in puchong has proven otherwise .. at 320k it was deemed overprice at that time but today the paper return has surpass my expectation .. and i m not sure ur vested zest can generate higher abs return than sw .. so tell me what makes ur perspective so true and deemed reliable ..
TS was the most invested prop by the "guru" in the forum .. was dubbed as the highest return of all ..
so now tell me how many is satisfied with the current price that they can sell .. or is it because u get in later with higher entry cost, u want to push the price higher resorting in forum promotion ?
despite u owning multiple props, ur knowledge is limited to ur own gameplay and cant seem to understand others ..
u must understand this is a forum .. ppl can judge .. u have ur own perspective, but that doesnt mean it is correct due to the number of props u hold .. dont tell me u never hear of any rich guy who went bancrupt .. put more logic and sense rather than just quoting of ur return ..



that's y u dont understand ... to me, u never put the right comparison .. u can onli see from ur pov .. the bad thing is u dont listen .. hahaa ..
it doesnt matter u understand or not, the fact is the expected return has surprised many .. so u may want to take it as ur case study .. but i doubt u can understand ..  rclxub.gif


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ken, u are spot on ..  sometimes forum like this is taken with a hidden agenda .. haha ..
as they are vested, they will only promote ..
i can accept to a certain limit .. but sometimes too exaggerated, i also beh tahan .. haha
anyway welcome to the most highly vested prop by forumers, but to me the return is so so onli ..
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I AGREE .PAI cant accept criticism..he just want to promote .Who want to buy at this RM450K!everything he buy sure will say good buy and will appreciate fast!everything he sais is right right right..Nothing is wrong.NOBODY want to renovate their unit for rental ..See iproperty.com..all basic unit for rent.
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QUOTE(ken8120 @ Aug 26 2011, 01:12 PM)
example
MUTIARA VILLA around rm450k to RM550k rental rm2800 above
inai imbi sale rm450000 to rm550000 rental 2500 above
berjaya apartment rm450000 to rm550000 rental rm28100 above
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The 1.8k price you quoted for TS.......is for bare unit .............but all your example above are all fully furnished rates.....so we aretn comparing apple to apple are we?

Look, I'm mere stating the facts that :

1. Prior to yesterday you havent post a single posting in LYF PropertyTalk

2. All your post todate is on Tititwangsa Sentral.

3. You then compare a bare unit in TS with furnished units of other developments.

Huge anomaly here.......but luckily LYF guys arent stupid......... tongue.gif


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my COCR is at least 1000% in SW and that is already on the conservative side.

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Its amazing you can "have" 1000% COCR when your SW is neither completed, rented or sold shocking.gif Pls enlighten us oh "SIFU" how did you manage to get 1000% COCR? Suspect you cant prove this 1000% COCR then choose to be silent AGAIN..........but I welcome you to prove me wrong that u r no more than an empty drum .......... doh.gif


A bird in hand is better than 2 in the bushes........ while you had to wait until next year to realize your gains in SW ...............others have flipped Tropics, Axis, Maytower, TS etc for a good profit leh ..........your SW is inefficient yet u failed to realize this from the beginning .........


And lastly.....SW returns has surpassed Zest meh? Think u r really counting your chickens to early here ............ would be interesting to see what will happen after SW VP.......... wink.gif


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QUOTE(ken8120 @ Aug 25 2011, 08:45 PM)
yes..really cheap.who want to buy at RM450k!only waterfish with no investment sense rush to buy thought this is a good buy!!!!!!hahahahhahahah
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Quoting transacted units from other forum :

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Last Sunday one unit transacted at RM525K for Block B intermediate high floor. Few high floor units transacted at RM485K already for Block A. Many owners revising their prices upwards after the M Sentral announcement by Mah Sing Berhad. Many have set the minimum benchmark from RM500K onwards.


Source : http://www.propertywtf.com.my/north-east/t...psf-t12-30.html


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QUOTE(Pai @ Aug 26 2011, 09:19 PM)
The 1.8k price you quoted for TS.......is for bare unit .............but all your example above are all fully furnished rates.....so we aretn comparing apple to apple are we?

Look, I'm mere stating the facts that :

1. Prior to yesterday you havent post a single posting in LYF PropertyTalk

2. All your post todate is on Tititwangsa Sentral.

3. You then compare a bare unit in TS with furnished units of other developments.

Huge anomaly here.......but luckily LYF guys arent stupid.........  tongue.gif
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at least I can differentiate between rotten apple mad.gif and fresh apple cool2.gif ...hahahah

Very good debate but debate mature a bit lah... rclxm9.gif

Using red color and big font will only expose your emotion and mindset...

Anyway, good debate, please continue to whack TS kaw kaw but smart investor is not stupid... rclxms.gif
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QUOTE(Pai @ Aug 26 2011, 09:19 PM)
The 1.8k price you quoted for TS.......is for bare unit .............but all your example above are all fully furnished rates.....so we aretn comparing apple to apple are we?

Look, I'm mere stating the facts that :

1. Prior to yesterday you havent post a single posting in LYF PropertyTalk

2. All your post todate is on Tititwangsa Sentral.

3. You then compare a bare unit in TS with furnished units of other developments.

Huge anomaly here.......but luckily LYF guys arent stupid.........  tongue.gif


I told u b4..nobody in titiwangsa sentral dare to renovate few 10k more for rent out..coz there know the market there even renovate also not much get for rental.ANd for the other developments with furnished unit..mostly all of them is renovated even new development ..thy dont mind to invest in renovation as there can fetch high rental..look at titiwangsa sentral at iproperty ..who the owner want the invest in furnished unit to rent out!!!THIS is not compare bare unit to furnished unit but WHY some owner reluctant to invest in renovation..if u know get what i mean..PAI i think u r loser as you cant accept plp who not agree with you..YOU MUST learn to accept opinion not reversing back !!!   


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Quoting transacted units from other forum :
Source : http://www.propertywtf.com.my/north-east/t...psf-t12-30.html
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Those are waterfish lo ..no investment sense..not only titiwangsa sentral,even others with bad investment value ..eg a flat in cheras market value rm60k stil got buyer offer RM150k..This is no investment sennse and waterfish..can be comparable who offer RM500k to buy those cheap titiwangsa sentral..USE YOUR BRAIN..got plp offer to buy at higher price doesnt mean good buy,,,then the Flat in cheras offered RM150k also good buy lo..EVERYwhere is good buy lo HOORAY!!!!!!!!!!!


Added on August 26, 2011, 11:03 pmMY ADVISE TO investor

Never go to titiwangsa sentral for investment!!I am investor myself..I have properties around Kl

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Added on August 26, 2011, 11:11 pmAND now is not the time to buy property unless if it is a really good buy..There will be drop in property market soon might drop at least 30% but sure it will go up again better than now .If titiwangsa Sental can up to RM770k,,the flat in mention just now valued at RM60k can go up to rm350k! and all the property in kuala lumpur can up to at least 40% provided titiwangsa can go up to RM770k as target BY MR. SMART PAI


Added on August 26, 2011, 11:14 pmWHY titiwangsa will up to RM770k?


mean the economy is really good..every property in malaysia also will go up..Thats why not necessary Titiwangsa sentral..a lot better than titiwangsa sentral .


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If fully furnish can fetch 3k rental... no need to make so many posting to defend the idea... just show the proof there's such tenant in TS...ppl will shut up.... biggrin.gif

Otherwise... can argue until the cow come back...ahahah....
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If fully furnish can fetch 3k rental...  no need to make so many posting to defend the idea... just show the proof there's such tenant in TS...ppl will shut up....  biggrin.gif

Otherwise... can argue until the cow come back...ahahah....
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QUOTE(ken8120 @ Aug 26 2011, 10:51 PM)
Never go to titiwangsa sentral for investment!!I am investor myself..I have properties around Kl

trust me

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Ken,

Gotta say your portfollio is not bad at all.............all the above I have personally went n check and I admit these are decent cashflow props......... thumbup.gif

Got a few questions if you dont mind sharing :

1. Can share what year you bought these props and for how much?

2. Noticed you only play in KLCC and BB area...........which of the above your best buy in terms of yield and gains?

3. U still keeping all the above?

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QUOTE(ken8120 @ Aug 26 2011, 06:41 PM)
I AGREE .PAI cant accept criticism..he just want to promote .Who want to buy at this RM450K!everything he buy sure will say good buy and will appreciate fast!everything he sais is right right right..Nothing is wrong.NOBODY want to renovate their unit for rental ..See iproperty.com..all basic unit for rent.
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u r very sharp, ken .. yea, he cant accept criticism on prop he bought .. but he likes to criticise other prop and even when proven wrong, he will defend and deny ..


Added on August 27, 2011, 10:47 am
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The 1.8k price you quoted for TS.......is for bare unit .............but all your example above are all fully furnished rates.....so we aretn comparing apple to apple are we?

Look, I'm mere stating the facts that :

1. Prior to yesterday you havent post a single posting in LYF PropertyTalk

2. All your post todate is on Tititwangsa Sentral.

3. You then compare a bare unit in TS with furnished units of other developments.

Huge anomaly here.......but luckily LYF guys arent stupid.........  tongue.gif


Added on August 26, 2011, 9:46 pm
Its amazing you can "have" 1000% COCR when your SW is neither completed, rented or sold  shocking.gif Pls enlighten us oh "SIFU" how did you manage to get 1000% COCR? Suspect you cant prove this 1000% COCR then choose to be silent AGAIN..........but I welcome you to prove me wrong that u r no more than an empty drum ..........  doh.gif
A bird in hand is better than 2 in the bushes........ while you had to wait until next year to realize your gains in SW ...............others have flipped Tropics, Axis, Maytower, TS etc for a good profit leh ..........your SW is inefficient yet u failed to realize this from the beginning .........
And lastly.....SW returns has surpassed Zest meh? Think u r really counting your chickens to early here ............ would be interesting to see what will happen after SW VP..........  wink.gif


u can choose not to believe, it doesnt matter to me .. my 1000% COCR is based on selling price of 500k where u cant find anyone selling at this price in any website ..
when u bought zest, didnt u have to wait near vp to realise ur gain ? it's the same for any new launches .. i dont see much in ur point as those who flipped Tropics, Axis bla bla had also waited till completion to realise their gain .. this is not a wise arguement ..
i would be more interested to see what happen after Zest VP  rclxm9.gif however, again and again .. the point is, u compared zest and sw and thought zest would have outperformed sw a lot, didnt u ... today, u are denying and giving excuses to what u have said previously .. this shows how much weight ur perspective actually carries ..

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Quoting transacted units from other forum :
Source : http://www.propertywtf.com.my/north-east/t...psf-t12-30.html
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is this the kind of proof u are looking at ? doh.gif haha .. this is forum .. while it is suppose for sharing knowledge, but some ppl will use this as a platform to promote their own vested prop .. there is nothing to prove, it's just whether u believe it or not .. plz use ur brain before u ask for something .. we want to bring this to a higher level of debate .. not the kind of debate u used to had .. whistling.gif

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QUOTE(ken8120 @ Aug 26 2011, 01:12 PM)
Only owner in this thread say good things about titiwangsa sentral.They want to push their unit higher.Dont get trap !not believe me?read few replied here by investor who doent own titiwangsa sentral really supporting wat i am saying..NOT A GOOD INVESTMENT for BOTH RENTAL AND CAPITAL APPRECIATION FOR THIS CHEAP TITIWANGSA SENTRAL.WE are all very smart and advise those new in property avoid titiwangsa sentral

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I am not an owner but keen investor in TS. I started to actively look for a unit since 2 months ago and have not been able to get one at "good price". I do not say good things only about TS but also cannot stand suspicious postings by people who obviously have their own reasons.
To put it into reality, I offered rm450k 2days ago for a unit but the owner refused!
I guess I don't have brain....or maybe the owner is the one without brains.

Whatever it is, I still can't get a choice unit at rm450k and will be thinking if I should increase my offer. Surely by your account I am even more brainless. So maybe you can tell me where to get a similar property at this price. And u don't néed to reply in bolder red....easier on my brainless eyes
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I think you are getting personal. your personal attack towards PAI has already misalign from the real purpose of this thread which is for discussion. I am no fans of Pai(I dont even know him) but I got to give him some credit , having 23 prop under his belt at a tender age. What do you have so far?
I dont own any unit in TS but as Minolta, I`m looking for one and my offer for 450k got no response so far.

and your writing in red does not impress me at all.
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Seller: I am not waiting for waterfish, but waiting for people who value this property (TS only has the value of its location and public transport, i think). If you don't like my price, please go away, no one force you to buy from me!!! STFU and buy another property which you think the price is still not overvalued(most of the property are over-valued nowadays tongue.gif)

Above statement is just my opinion, don't shoot me k!! I am not a owner for TS. But if i were to buy a property for own stay, i wont choose TS la. I buy TS also for rental income only.... But the rental income can really go so high? Thats my doubt. hmmm
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[quote=lhkmmyy,Aug 27 2011, 04:38 PM]Seller: I am not waiting for waterfish, but waiting for people who value this property (TS only has the value of its location and public transport, i think). If you don't like my price, please go away, no one force you to buy from me!!! STFU and buy another property which you think the price is still not overvalued(most of the property are over-valued nowadays tongue.gif)

Above statement is just my opinion, don't shoot me k!! I am not a owner for TS. But if i were to buy a property for own stay, i wont choose TS la. I buy TS also for rental income only.... But the rental income can really go so high? Thats my doubt. hmmm
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No one force me,,i just give my opinion to other who need advise.yup i agree most of the property are over-valued but sure stil have some with investment but sure not titiwangsa sentral lo


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[/quote]

I think you are getting personal. your personal attack towards PAI has already misalign from the real purpose of this thread which is for discussion. I am no fans of Pai(I dont even know him) but I got to give him some credit , having 23 prop under his belt at a tender age. What do you have so far?
I dont own any unit in TS but as Minolta, I`m looking for one and my offer for 450k got no response so far.

and your writing in red does not impress me at all.
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no need offer 450k ..wait 3 month,,will have owner offer you rm380k to 400k
I am 29..i have 11 properties..You can choose not to agree with me.so far all my choices of investment wont get wrong


Added on August 27, 2011, 6:11 pm[quote=Pai,Aug 27 2011, 01:11 AM]
Ken,

Gotta say your portfollio is not bad at all.............all the above I have personally went n check and I admit these are decent cashflow props......... thumbup.gif

Got a few questions if you dont mind sharing :

1. Can share what year you bought these props and for how much?

2. Noticed you only play in KLCC and BB area...........which of the above your best buy in terms of yield and gains?

3. U still keeping all the above?

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1.The properties bought between 2007 to 2010 between rm150k to rm350k except times square
2.mutiara villa and berjaya and casa mutiara ..can be said all good yield between 10% to 16% appreaciated more than 40%
3)still keep all not to mention other properties at johor and penang


Pai,ur turn to answer me....wat properties u have ,,wat the best yield ?plp said u have 23 properties?

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Brother Ken, i agree with you TS not worth so much, but i do not agree with you saying TS price will drop, ppl will just 'pegang' it kuat kuat, until global economy crisis hit kao lat kao lat again....ppl unemployed, and stock market crashed 20-30%. Not to say price drop is impossible lar, it happened before, but it's very unlikely to happen in 3 months time lo. haha, just my 0.02

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QUOTE(ken8120 @ Aug 27 2011, 06:01 PM)
1.The properties bought between 2007 to 2010  between rm150k to rm350k  except times square
2.mutiara villa and berjaya and casa mutiara  ..can be said all good yield between 10% to 16% appreaciated more than 40%
3)still keep all not to mention other properties at johor and penang
Pai,ur turn to answer me....wat properties u have ,,wat the best yield ?plp said u have 23 properties?
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wow....impressive....sorry, if u don't mind me asking 2 questions, as I'm new to this thread

1. For your MV, Berjaya and Casa mutiara - you mentioned that i has appreciated. Congrats! At present prices and yields, do you think people will still buy into those properties? And do you not see a need to sell to realise profit?

2. What exactly is your reservation with TS? Like MV, berjaya and casa mutiara - it has also appreciated in price....So, i don't quite understand the issue.

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QUOTE(Phoeni_142 @ Aug 27 2011, 06:59 PM)
wow....impressive....sorry, if u don't mind me asking 2 questions, as I'm new to this thread

1. For your MV, Berjaya and Casa mutiara - you mentioned that i has appreciated.  Congrats! At present prices and yields, do you think people will still buy into those properties? And do you not see a need to sell to realise profit?

2. What exactly is your reservation with TS? Like MV, berjaya and casa mutiara - it has also appreciated in price....So, i don't quite understand the issue.

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at least the rental yield is better than titiwangsa sentral..and easy to rent out as expatriates prefer those property can walk to shopping mall.all my unit if vacant within 1 week can rent out somemore rental better than titiwangsa sentral.as all my unit with good rental yield and easy to rent out..i dont see to rush to sell my properties .with present prices and property market,it may take sometime to release the property but i believe it will easy to sell out compare to titiwangsa sentral..dont believe?..not much unit in iproperty.com sell casa mutiara ,berjaya ,MV..all prefer to keep


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QUOTE(lhkmmyy @ Aug 27 2011, 06:36 PM)
Brother Ken, i agree with you TS not worth so much, but i do not agree with you saying TS price will drop, ppl will just 'pegang' it kuat kuat, until global economy crisis hit kao lat kao lat again....ppl unemployed, and stock market crashed 20-30%. Not to say price drop is impossible lar, it happened before, but it's very unlikely to happen in 3 months time lo. haha, just my 0.02
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now some owner already wanna sell at rm420k .the agent just call me yesterday..but the price stil not interesting.Now thera are alot of owner chasing to sell theier unit,they cant rent out and paying installment every month.more than 400 unit for rent out or for sale.Some might face pressure to keep them.somemore economy will be worst in few months time.we need to test thier patience..they bought it at rm250k.what do you think ?

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QUOTE(ken8120 @ Aug 27 2011, 10:11 PM)
at least the rental yield is better than titiwangsa sentral..and easy to rent out as expatriates prefer those property can walk to shopping mall.all my unit if vacant within 1 week can rent out somemore rental better than titiwangsa sentral.as all my unit with good rental yield and easy to rent out..i dont see to rush to sell  my properties .with present prices and property market,it may take sometime to release the property but i believe it will easy to sell out compare to titiwangsa sentral..dont believe?..not much unit in iproperty.com sell casa mutiara ,berjaya ,MV..all prefer to keep


Added on August 27, 2011, 10:18 pm
now some owner already wanna sell at rm420k .the agent just call me yesterday..but the price stil not interesting.Now thera are alot of owner chasing to sell theier unit,they cant rent out and paying installment every month.more than 400 unit for rent out or for sale.Some might face pressure to keep them.somemore economy will be worst in few months time.we need to test thier patience..they bought it at rm250k.what do you think ?
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Unless those owner sell without engaging a property agent, if not, those property agent will just tell them they can sell at high price, ask them pegang... hehe...

I actually hope what you said here is true, hope that those owner already start panic and sell at lower price. hehe...Sorry MR.PAI, i don't have any unit in TS that's why i say so tongue.gif no offense 1 har...i still got lot of things to learn from you....beginner here notworthy.gif
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QUOTE(zavier98 @ Aug 27 2011, 10:17 AM)
u can choose not to believe, it doesnt matter to me .. my 1000% COCR is based on selling price of 500k where u cant find anyone selling at this price in any website ..
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COCR is Cash On Cash Returns. Unless you have been receiving cash for your undercon Setia Walk..........claiming to have achieved 1000% COCR is misleading n a blatant lie.

http://www.property-investing.org/cash-on-cash-return.html

I know you are a young, but to lie like this is............... doh.gif


Added on August 28, 2011, 1:22 am
QUOTE(ken8120 @ Aug 27 2011, 06:01 PM)
no need offer 450k ..wait 3 month,,will have owner offer you rm380k to 400k
I suspect this wont happen but lets revisit this after 3 months smile.gif


QUOTE(ken8120 @ Aug 27 2011, 06:01 PM)
I am 29..i have 11 properties..You can choose not to agree with me.so far all my choices of investment wont get wrong
29 with 11 props..........is actually quite respectable. Got a fren with your age but currently on 13 props, and he is also vested in CM and BTS as I recommended him to go in.

But chief how come you never commented in any of the threads of the properties you own? It is rather strange for someone who has soo many props yet choose to comment in a thread that he isnt vested in at all? whistling.gif

QUOTE(ken8120 @ Aug 27 2011, 06:01 PM)
1.The properties bought between 2007 to 2010  between rm150k to rm350k  except times square
2.mutiara villa and berjaya and casa mutiara  ..can be said all good yield between 10% to 16% appreaciated more than 40%
3)still keep all not to mention other properties at johor and penang
Pai,ur turn to answer me....wat properties u have ,,wat the best yield ?plp said u have 23 properties?
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Bought a few props here n there lah.....in KL n Johoor......CM, Maytower, Axis, TS are my yield plays.....yields also between 10% to 16%.......my best buy appreciates 100% in 18 months....... the rest approx 60% gains overall............. wink.gif


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QUOTE(lhkmmyy @ Aug 28 2011, 12:35 AM)
Unless those owner sell without engaging a property agent, if not, those property agent will just tell them they can sell at high price, ask them pegang... hehe...

I actually hope what you said here is true, hope that those owner already start panic and sell at lower price. hehe...Sorry MR.PAI, i don't have any unit in TS that's why i say so  tongue.gif no offense 1 har...i still got lot of things to learn from you....beginner here  notworthy.gif
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chief no issues.........its OK to disagree in fact I like mature banters.......but when ppl started lying then go on personal attacks then its a bit too much.......

When an ESTABLISHED n KNOWN forumer like Minolta kor shares his exp in TS hunting recently ........... I'd rather trust his input then some newbie who happens to have personal issues just because I dont agree that SW is a good buy.........

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now some owner already wanna sell at rm420k .the agent just call me yesterday..but the price stil not interesting.Now thera are alot of owner chasing to sell theier unit,they cant rent out and paying installment every month.more than 400 unit for rent out
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You're not interested? Then please do share with us your agent's contact. I am interested if nice unit. U can also pm me the agent's number if you're not keen to put here. If deal go through, I will make sure the agent give you a referree's cut of the commission.

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zavier & Ken 8120.

1. Are u 2 related? I'm just curious why the both of you are coincidentally showing so much animosity towards another forumer here? Let's battle with facts, not with emotion. Personal attacks are not appreciated.

2. Ken 8120 - personally, 11 props at 29 years of age doesn't really impress me. I know people with far more. Plus it's not the quantity of the prop's that matter. It is the strategic acuity & your investment philosophy that matters. So far, I've not gotten any indication from you on that. Please don't give sweeping statements that "you have not been wrong so far". At 29, you have not seen any major recessions or faced any credit crunches yet, let alone understand the implications of such matters.

3. Zavier - u may accuse another forumer that TS is heavily advocated by him. But are you not also heavily vested in telling people that TS is NOT a good buy? You seem to be giving me that impression, and the bias can also be seen from your posts.

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zavier & Ken 8120.

1. Are u 2 related? I'm just curious why the both of you are coincidentally showing so much animosity towards another forumer here?  Let's battle with facts, not with emotion.  Personal attacks are not appreciated.

2. Ken 8120 - personally, 11 props at 29 years of age doesn't really impress me.  I know people with far more.  Plus it's not the quantity of the prop's that matter.  It is the strategic acuity & your investment philosophy that matters.  So far, I've not gotten any indication from you on that.  Please don't give sweeping statements that "you have not been wrong so far".  At 29, you have not seen any major recessions or faced any credit crunches yet, let alone understand the implications of such matters.

3. Zavier - u may accuse another forumer that TS is heavily advocated by him.  But are you not also heavily vested in telling people that TS is NOT a good buy? You seem to be giving me that impression, and the bias can also be seen from your posts.
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i didnt expect anybody to impress of me..of coz i never been wrong so far.if there are any major recessions or faced any credit crunches..if i am affected ,i thing not only me,there will be alot of plp also involve including some property guru.


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QUOTE(ken8120 @ Aug 28 2011, 12:50 PM)
i didnt expect anybody to impress of me..of coz i never been wrong so far.if there are any major recessions or faced any credit crunches..if i am affected ,i thing not only me,there will be alot of plp also involve including some property guru.
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why attacking me..not only me ...but i think there are more than 10 plp here also attacking Titiwangs sentral.u talk me coz u have personal agenda.not me.u have the right to say ..y not us!if u want everybody agree with u,be a moderator here and ban me


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QUOTE(Pai @ Aug 28 2011, 01:08 AM)
COCR is Cash On Cash Returns. Unless you have been receiving cash for your undercon Setia Walk..........claiming to have achieved 1000% COCR is misleading n a blatant lie.

http://www.property-investing.org/cash-on-cash-return.html

I know you are a young, but to lie like this is...............  doh.gif


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I suspect this wont happen but lets revisit this after 3 months  smile.gif
29 with 11 props..........is actually quite respectable. Got a fren with your age but currently on 13 props, and he is also vested in CM and BTS as I recommended him to go in.

But chief how come you never commented in any of the threads of the properties you own? It is rather strange for someone who has soo many props yet choose to comment in a thread that he isnt vested in at all?  whistling.gif
Bought a few props here n there lah.....in KL n Johoor......CM, Maytower, Axis, TS are my yield plays.....yields also between 10% to 16%.......my best buy appreciates 100% in 18 months....... the rest approx 60% gains overall.............  wink.gif


Added on August 28, 2011, 1:34 am
chief no issues.........its OK to disagree in fact I like mature banters.......but when ppl started lying then go on personal attacks then its a bit too much.......

When an ESTABLISHED n KNOWN forumer like Minolta kor shares his exp in TS hunting recently ........... I'd rather trust his input then some newbie who happens to have personal issues just because I dont agree that SW is a good buy.........

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i am not an active user here last time because i am so busy .now i am semi retired.a lot of time for me now .Its not starange as i told u all b4.i view this property titiwangsa sentral b4 thru an agents,if i not interested to invest ,i will not view it.But after viewing,already felt this is not a good investment .as i am so free now,i think i will share what in my mind on property for sharing .i give my opinion but being attacked.Maybe this thread for who want to sweet talk about titiwangsa sentral not for pp to give opinion.we give opinion some plp say we have personal hidden motive.plp sweet talk titiwangsa sentral,,this plp keep quiet

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