QUOTE(tiongkeat @ Jun 5 2012, 11:36 PM)
luckily never considered on villamas product.
zefer hill definately a mess after their construction finish in 2015.
too expensive already properties these days... really getting out of hand... later more like hong kon style... one property and pay by 3 generation... just to service the loans...
Added on June 6, 2012, 12:15 am
QUOTE(yunashiwa @ May 25 2012, 10:53 AM)
Hi Falangkei. I've read your comments on the defects in your atmosfera unit. I've got the same issue if not more!
Gotta say that I'm quite disappointed with the finishing touches. My unit didn't even have the main door installed yet!! I don't understand how they can get clearance from government to release the unit to us buyers.
The unit is in a total mess right now. They gave me the whole bunch of keys to my unit. But I need to use NONE of them to go inside my unit as there is no door! The reason they give me is because Bomba request that they change the door to fire rated door for corner units cause the units are located further away from the lifts. Ok. But why cant they do it before giving us the permission to get the keys? I've paid everything in full in order to get the keys! But unfortunely I can't start installing lights or fans and air cons because there's no door to my unit. Who's gonna be responsible if things are stolen from my unit?
I've had lots of a issues with the finishing touches. When I said lots I mean LOTS!! I've counted to at least 200+ wall defects, ie. holes, cracks, unpaint, rough surface, etc. they took me a whole day to mark them all! There are a lot of unfilled gaps in between tiles. Especially on the edges, ie. the link from wall to floor. Some of the window railings are rotted. There are huge gaps on closed room doors, big enough for an iguana to squeeze through, (exaggerate a bit la). And the whole unit is super dirty. Windows are covered in splashed paints, paints all over the tiles, dripping down from the wall i supposed. I mean, arent they suppose to give us a FIT to stay unit? Who's buying a construction site to stay? But Man.. I really have no idea when can I "settle" all those before I can start renovating/installing lightings.
The management told me that they need AT LEAST another 2 weeks to get the door installed. And from then AT LEAST another month to look into all the defects I mentioned. Read carefully, AT LEAST... According to the man in charge, I don't know what he does but I know we are suppose to submit the defect list to him, he's got an office at the ground floor of the Kondo in block A. He also told me that it's better for me to submit the defect list after they've install the door. But when I asked him yesterday about the time they need once I submit the defect list to get the things done, he said if I submitted yesterday I'll be 56th on the waiting list. 56th??!! I don't think they can kaotim a unit in a day. So for sure I won't get the defects ratified in a month! That's for sure. And if I submit the defect list after the door is installed, I would be what? 356th on the waiting list? I mean come on!!
How can you collect money from me and telling me that the unit is FIT to occupy? Make no sense at all man.
Guys whoever you are. What do you suggest me to do? I just want to get the things done and move on! Time is essence. No point complain here and there and get no further from the problem I already have.
Gotta say, disappointing. I really do. We are paying good money for things like that..
P/S: I noticed that some of the room doors have these weird holes on the side. I guess they accidentally drill the wholes on the wrong side of the door and the just simply amend it by filling the holes and painted it to cover up. Should I request to replace the doors or is it normal to do that way? Cause the last time I check a door can cost a few hundreds. I mean I've already paid so much for the Kondo. Takkan I wanna buy some defect??
Gosh. The more I type the the more fire I get.
Hi! Guy and Girls....
I would like to say I am new to this and would like to share my experience with you guys... I am not an owner but acting on behalf of one. About your defects if you read through your manual they are to rectify all the defects within 30 days of receiving a report and if after that and you are still not satisfied they will do so in another 14 days. If until then you are not satisfied you should be free to contact your own contractor to rectify the problem and pass the bill to them as the lawyers are still holding another 5% of the price and you need to sign a document for them to release the payment.
Defects.... all the above and more of course. Please feel free to contact me at email@example.com if you have any queries... I am not an agent or contractor although I got my contractor which does my house to do my GF cousins Unit over there. You guy are more than free to check her job... YES My contractor is a SHE. Anyway about the gangs it is true... oh I gave the email without the 19 as I forgot my last login name and have mailed the admin about my nick and password but no reply so no choice but to get a new mail to register another account for lowyat.
I had an argement with Mr Sara but I think its over now and he is of great help currently dealing with the "Gangster" as a report has been lodge by them also. Please do make a report as more report the Cops would do something sooner. From what I heard which I am not sure true or not is... The contractor which is in Block 1 Level 4 unit 5 or 6 with the show room is under the Gang... He has to pay 10% to the gang... The other fella at Block 2 Level 15 not sure what unit number which also has a show room is Mr Ray. He is friendly but I also heard that he has to pay RM10,000 for them not to disturb him for doing reno. People... in this time and age are we going to let people bugger us when the cost of the building cost so much and they have even collected 3 months maintenance fee in advance.
All I can say is that if anything happens to my contractor or workers or owners please let us join together to SUE the Developer as well as Henry Butcher if things does get out of hand. We did not pay so much for this SHIT. I would be free on Monday afternoon after my nap as I should be there to check things out. If you like I can help inspect your unit for defects... All I can say is CHECK your TILES (toilet) as most of them are hollow and they would crack after a while of course it would be after your warranty date. The window (Aluminium) frame also (my friends unit) is also damaged. Am not too sure how in the world they managed to scratch the darn thing... It looks like they used the frame to sand something or they were hungry as it looks like someone used a filer filer to file the frame.
Don't talk about the AC unit... who the hell can install the AC unit so damn low...???? After a miracle if you do manage to install the indoor unit it would take another Miracle for you to place your curtains there... ALL OVER THE DARN UNIT... of course if you are on the 18th floor then you sure are lucky as the ceiling height is higher... Oh! the doors... don't get me started... its made out of PAPER (ok lah paper box...) don't believe me then I will show you the pic if you like. Its really sad... Plug points are not where the are supposed to be and switches are in the middle of everywhere. I needed to get them relocated and the ac needs to be done all again as CHINA wires are being used as well as if you are thinking of installing an inverter unit please change ur copper for the ac as what they have provided is for normal units... the inverter unit uses a thicker type. YES you can use the old thinner type for the inverter but be prepared to pay again later on as the pressure is too strong for the old one to handle.
For your (everyone) information.....
Person in charge as well as contact numbers are
Mr. Sara 013-620 2431 Building Manager
Ms. Yanti 012-649 6065 Building Supervisor
Mr. Raja Sorry dont have his number but he is a very helpful Security Guard (others...hmm.. don't know bahasa or english.... ok lah not all)
Mr. Faizal 012-237 7129 Incharge for block 1 Defect
Mr. Roslan 012-303 3116 Incharge for Block 2 Defect
I can't force you owners not to use certain contractors but please check the prices and if you get one you know from the outside and have problem please give Mr Sara a call and if you can't get him call Ms Yanti (I don't think she could do much) but here is a number you have to keep 03-8062 0485... THIS IS THE POLICE CONTACT - GERAK KHAS... Yes as I said my contractor and myself have made a report as things has been going missing and we suspected its those fellas but sadly no proof and of course if anything happens to her workers or her, myself or owners the cops knows who to look for.
Added on June 6, 2012, 12:19 am
QUOTE(yunashiwa @ Jun 1 2012, 09:06 AM)
Yeah. So far no improvement whatsoever. Honestly. I'm scare of Villamas now. No more property from them. Ever.
Btw. Have you contacted the vendor for the dryer? Looks like we have to bear the delivery charges our own. Make no sense. They said they are giving us for free. But we are bearing the delivery cost ourselves. What's the whole point? Really no idea. Wonder if we can arrange delivery together. Maybe we'll be able to share the delivery cost? Though I highly doubt they will let us do that.
I bet we are going to have to queue up for the delivery as well!
Update on the door, no improvement. Still the same. One big hole on the wall.
Update on the defects, no actions.
One word. Disappointing.
On the other hand, tried to contact some agents. Actually they were the ones who contacted me first. All asking if I'm selling. Wanted to rent the unit out. Was asking some agents about the rental. All giving different answers. Way too much difference. Around RM1200 difference. Don't understand. I really wonder which agent is really giving genuine help. I asked if I would be able to push the rental higher if I have kitchen cabinet, air cons, fans and nice lightings installed. Answered one of the agent is, quote, "the difference will be around RM200"! Unbelievable! I spent an extra RM15,000 to get RM200 increase? Make no sense.
But some agents are quite helpful. They tell you to install this and that and they will try to push the rental higher. But then again, they will TRY.
Man. All these troubles. I wonder if it's worth all the efforts.
So far the rent market is very quiet over there. As the condo is definitely not fit for staying.
Findingpeace, you have any idea what your queue number is for the defect waiting list?
cwhong, yeah. What else could be done? Nothing at all.
Friend of mine got a quote of RM40k but end up paying more than double as all not in quote... so don't just look at price... ask what is included. I got a quote before getting mine to start work... same price... but 1/4 of work only. My quote was in 4 to 5 pages while the other fella just provided 1 page general quote without measurements. Just listed kitchen cabinet instead of bottom unit 10feet wall hung unit 8feet etc etc...
Just contact me if you need any suggestions or help checking for defects on your unit... NO CHARGES as I am Keh Poh to help... Oh! I will not list my number here as I would not want those idiots (Gang and contractor who belongs to them) to call and bug me...
Cheers and happy renovating....This post has been edited by yow_yuen19: Jun 6 2012, 12:19 AM