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post May 12 2009, 07:44 PM

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QUOTE(kimhoong @ May 12 2009, 09:44 AM)
My take on the thread title,

It's okay "to fall in love" with a team as a glory hunter. It's simply because not everyone has the time and patience to analyze EVERY TEAM in the world to decide which one fits his/her interest the best. I believe most of us (maybe not all) started to support our beloved team because of some reasons such as team popularity, peer influence, etc...

However, club-hopping glory hunters are different stories. I guess I do not need to elaborate further on this.
I would like to stress, DO NOT discriminate glory hunters. They are also human who deserve respect. They have done nothing illegal. They help to increase the popularity, income and support for the club.

Enough said, glory hunters who bash back the club "blindly" (without valid facts, just emotion and anger - because of the team is losing?) are hated the most. But yet, you cannot do anything about it since there is a freedom of speech.
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the best way to describe it...
one may know the sport after watching the performance of the team that jz draw them to support the team and love the game...

glory hunters are those who keep jumping clubs when the club won something and went missing from the club he/she is meant to support when it looses...
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post May 12 2009, 08:31 PM

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QUOTE(Jonno @ May 12 2009, 10:21 AM)
I think that is more towards having affinity towards a certain country than glory hunting. But then again, did he realised the intense rivalry between Barca and Real?
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haha that's why i think it's out of topic already lol. And yeah im sure he realizes that. It's like u (liverpool fan) wanting mu to win the UCL



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post May 12 2009, 08:48 PM

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QUOTE(rpg @ May 12 2009, 04:07 PM)
i do agree with this. most people start in teens. this reaffirm that chelsea supporters are mostly kids.
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wow the stadium revenues at the bridge must be absolutely shocking then..imagine having a kids special rate and every kid on the block taking advantage of that..disastrous. and at modesto's here in malaysia..imagine all the parents who have to send their kids there..gasp! the horror!
and the stamford bridge support..HOW THE HELL DID THEIR VOICES GET SO DEEP??!! my word! kids in london obviously have some super hormone that makes them grow at an astonishing rate..scientists take note! rclxm9.gif

really..after reading all the interesting views here on the subject, someone just had to come and make a sweeping statement that makes as much sense as flying pigs. learn to set aside rivalries before giving your opinions bro. it'll help a lot.
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post May 12 2009, 08:54 PM

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I admit that I start supporting Man Utd due to their attacking play (Cantona, Yorke, Cole, Giggs etc) and of course them winning trophies. But that time I was quite young and again I admit I didn't know much of their history (internet access was a limit then). Heck, I didn't even know who won more trophies at that time! Just that Man Utd was that season champion and I start following them on TV. And till now I support them with a quite in depth knowledge of the team.

Every supporter starts to support a team for a reason, one of it undoubtedly is the success which comes along. I have seen countless friends who started knowing nuts about football supporting each club based on the season which team won. For my age group, I can deduced most of the fans is influenced by the results. For Ars fans, most of them start supporting during the Bergkamp/Henry era. Che fans during the Abrahmovic/Mourinho success. Liverpool fans is most probably due to the influence of family members (no offense) or the Owen/Fowler era. Do i classified them as glory hunters then? No. Not until they switched clubs after seeing their team slipped up. Thankfully, my group of friends consists of loyal and passionate fans. We can have a very good conversation on football with some bickering in between.

For me, glory hunters is those that comes out of their closet gloating when their team win or other team that they dislike lost. I don't judge true fans from the number of games they watched nor whether they buy original merchandise or not. It sickens me to see that a friend who know nuts about football (eg : what is offside?) starts gloating and celebrate when <insert team> won. I don't mind if that triggers him/her to know more about football but after the football fever subsided, he went straight back into the closet. And when another/same team won, he came back out claiming as a supporter of that particular team!
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post May 12 2009, 09:04 PM

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started supporting Man Utd the year before they won the treble, yea its a bit weird, i also don't know y i supported them at the first place, and i was only starting to watch football that year (11 yrs old to be precise)....but after that i kinda stuck with the team as i learn more about the players, the manager, and the history....

of course that few years they are very strong, but then the barren years came, where United won nothing, and all sorts of "crisis" surfaced...but i still supported them with a hope that they will bounce back, and they didn't dissapoint smile.gif

but i must salute one friend of my, he supported Chelsea that time (Zola,Flo era) until now, he's the true fan
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post May 12 2009, 09:21 PM

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Ah, glory hunter thread. We can have gathering, hang out together and have fun.

I have past season jerseys to sell with 80% discount. Liverpool, Arsenal, Chelsea R Madrid and Barcelona... you name it..

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post May 12 2009, 09:41 PM

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My view on glory hunters? #$%^&^%$#$%^&*&^%^&*&^%^&*&^&* them. I don't need them. The club doesn't need them. Screw the revenue stream. I rather be mediocre than have a bunch of glory hunting knobs supporting my club. And the keyword here is support. That is the thing that separates supporters and fans from those low lifes.

Yes, you could be a fan of the football played by the sexy Torres and Gerrard, but don't call yourself a Liverpool supporter. See the difference? I hate it when the term 'supporter' gets used loosely. Is like mixers in alcohol, too much of it just dilutes the good stuff.

Ohh, what is a glory hunter? Fair weather 'fans'. Supporters that boo their own team and leave early? Shiat. Look at the sentence again. Notice that it is a bit of an oxymoron to have 'supporters' and 'boo your team that tried their best and could do with a little motivation' and 'leaving your team behind to fooking rot cause you just don't give a shit' in the same sentence?
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post May 12 2009, 09:43 PM

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Why all Malaysians support the big 4 (Man U, Arsenal, Liverpool, Chelsea)?

Do we need to support the big 4 to be a proper football fan?


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post May 12 2009, 11:21 PM

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QUOTE(MamulaMoon @ May 12 2009, 09:43 PM)
Why all Malaysians support the big 4 (Man U, Arsenal, Liverpool, Chelsea)?

Do we need to support the big 4 to be a proper football fan?
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Exactly. Nobody likes a loser,everyone is a hypocrite,we're all glory hunters,woooooooo.
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post May 12 2009, 11:27 PM

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QUOTE(Pain_X @ May 12 2009, 11:21 PM)
Exactly. Nobody likes a loser,everyone is a hypocrite,we're all glory hunters,woooooooo.
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Not everyone...Maybe you should take a look at those still supporting Leed United and southampton before you say that.

To be honest,I really respect the likes of PIRATES and FauxHawk who are still supporting Southampton until now .

If you don't know about them, maybe you should take a look at their thread.

http://forum.lowyat.net/topic/312364/+300
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QUOTE(solstice818 @ May 12 2009, 11:27 PM)
Not everyone...Maybe you should take a look at those still supporting Leed United and southampton before you say that.

To be honest,I really respect the likes of PIRATES and FauxHawk who are still supporting Southampton until now .

If you don't know about them, maybe you should take a look at their thread.

http://forum.lowyat.net/topic/312364/+300
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Hmm,then you should respect me for supporting MU through all our rough incidents as well : Selling of Stam,flying boot to Becks,massive reshuffle of the forwards,falling out with RVN,watching Dong play etc.

Tough times man,but i stuck with em icon_idea.gif
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wow tough times indeed...maybe u all should buy bellamy so can have a flying golf club instead of boot...

anyway, definition of glory hunter refer to Hull thread tongue.gif
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Some of logic I can see here,

Real fans is someone who know wikipedia of their club.

If like tat, some of "real fans" is formerly glory hunters because at the first day being a fan they don't know the background of their club. How can boys in the age of 8, 9, 10 or 11 know the history of the club? And that time that club was doing good and winning the title. Boys in the age of 8, 9, 10 start to support because that club was winning. So that is GLORY HUNTER.

Don't say la we know the history, watch every game week in week out..that is REAL FAN....digg our self when we start to support. If like situation above, we are GLORY HUNTER converts to "SELF CLAIMED" REAL FAN. Don't talk big big la sampai meletup this LYN.

Some of self claimed REAL FAN is formerly GLORY HUNTER. Agree?

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post May 13 2009, 12:25 AM

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To be fair to the TS, the direction of this thread has gone wayward (As it is always expected when there is a neutral titled thread introduced)

The title of the thread was Glory Hunters. Id assume that one would discuss why do people become one, or what are the attributes and habits of a glory hunter. But the thread has gone on to become each and everyones own definition of a Glory Hunter, and it becomes pointless.

Find the definition of Glory Hunter from a neutral source, then discuss it from there, instead of being hypothetical with all the assumptions you can pick out from the sky.

What I do know about a majority of us, even in a microscopical sense, is that we are all Glory Hunters at one point or at a certain degree. We all claim that we loved the playing style, or the sheer heart and passion of the team and supporters, or the culture of the club, or the ancestorial origins etc etc but we forget to mention the trophies that we celebrated when we loved the same.

That goes to United supporters, Liverpool supporters, Chelsea supporters, Arsenal supporters (at least during their hay-day), id dare say Newcastle supporters (when they were challenging), Blackburn supporters (when the won the title) or even Nottingham forest (they won the european cup before me thinks)

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QUOTE(little_mozart @ May 13 2009, 12:00 AM)
Some of logic I can see here,

Real fans is someone who know wikipedia of their club.

If like tat, some of "real fans" is formerly glory hunters because at the first day being a fan they don't know the background of their club. How can boys in the age of 8, 9, 10 or 11 know the history of the club? And that time that club was doing good and winning the title. Boys in the age of 8, 9, 10 start to support because that club was winning. So that is GLORY HUNTER.

Don't say la we know the history, watch every game week in week out..that is REAL FAN....digg our self when we start to support. If like situation above, we are GLORY HUNTER converts to "SELF CLAIMED" REAL FAN. Don't talk big big la sampai meletup this LYN.

Some of self claimed REAL FAN is formerly GLORY HUNTER. Agree?
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I started supporting Liverpool since 1997. How could I be a glory hunter when our next most trophy-laden year was in 2001? Anyway, is irrelevant. I like to think that most don't start off as a glory hunter, most start off as a fan of a certain trait of a club (playing style, player, sexy supporters, chants, stadium and so on), then as they go on, they get passionate about the club.

Biggest difference between a supporter and a knobhead? Passion.

Knowing the history, watching games, dreaming of Torres' hair is just a by-product of passion. Is not defining. Merely accepted traits that comes along with passion.

QUOTE(aboogee @ May 13 2009, 12:25 AM)
To be fair to the TS, the direction of this thread has gone wayward (As it is always expected when there is a neutral titled thread introduced)

The title of the thread was Glory Hunters. Id assume that one would discuss why do people become one, or what are the attributes and habits of a glory hunter. But the thread has gone on to become each and everyones own definition of a Glory Hunter, and it becomes pointless.

Find the definition of Glory Hunter from a neutral source, then discuss it from there, instead of being hypothetical with all the assumptions you can pick out from the sky.

What I do know about a majority of us, even in a microscopical sense, is that we are all Glory Hunters at one point or at a certain degree. We all claim that we loved the playing style, or the sheer heart and passion of the team and supporters, or the culture of the club, or the ancestorial origins etc etc but we forget to mention the trophies that we celebrated when we loved the same.

That goes to United supporters, Liverpool supporters, Chelsea supporters, Arsenal supporters (at least during their hay-day), id dare say Newcastle supporters (when they were challenging), Blackburn supporters (when the won the title) or even Nottingham forest (they won the european cup before me thinks)
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First bolded part: The identity of the club. That is where the passion comes from.

Second bolded part: That is a reason to drink. Is it important? Yes, I like to drink. Is it all there is? No. I have plenty of other excuses to drink.
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QUOTE(SeLrAhC @ May 12 2009, 09:15 AM)
very good play ^^ glad 2 see we r winning... gonna wear my chelsea jersey 2day ^^
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I think this is a clear cut glory hunter, only wearing the team jersey when winning eh? doh.gif
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eh?? a thread opened specially for me??? tqtqtqtq.
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post May 13 2009, 03:13 AM

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QUOTE(sinoffire @ May 13 2009, 01:48 AM)
eh?? a thread opened specially for me??? tqtqtqtq.
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Typical United fan la you. tongue.gif
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Here's something to ponder.

Can anyone here name ONE player in our Malaysian national team? What's the result of our last international game?

I'll bet only a few, if any, can answer that. Aren't we all glory-hunters then, for supporting teams half the world away but turn our backs against our own teams?

Btw - the answer to the 2nd question, is against the UAE back in January in KL. They canned us 5-0. Sadly, I cannot answer question #1.
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QUOTE(miketee @ May 13 2009, 03:57 AM)
Here's something to ponder.

Can anyone here name ONE player in our Malaysian national team? What's the result of our last international game?

I'll bet only a few, if any, can answer that. Aren't we all glory-hunters then, for supporting teams half the world away but turn our backs against our own teams?

Btw - the answer to the 2nd question, is against the UAE back in January in KL. They canned us 5-0. Sadly, I cannot answer question #1.
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