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REDShaun
post May 12 2009, 10:51 AM

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To be fair, most people in Malaysia or around the region has more or less some areas of Glory hunting to a certain extend... ask yourself this

1. how much is your knowledge about the team you support? (you don't have to be an expert but FFS at least know who the manager is and who's your players and at least some history as to what,when,why,what of the team)

2. do you wear your jersey or at least are you proud to put on that jersey even when your team is in the slums or loses in the weekend? (be honest here, vanity plays a big part in a supporter, what separates them are actually to what extend you let vanity represent you as a fan..glory hunting?) - i like this point here personally as i know people personally for hiding their jersey especially after being dumped over the weekend tongue.gif

3. do you need to be coax to catch the games or do you make it an effort to actually watch it, rejoice in it, stay till the very end? We may not be in the country where the beautiful game is played, but making an effort to at least watch it says a lot about whether you are a fan of football or just a fan of a club smile.gif

I don't mean to discriminate or anything, I may not even be the FAN-atic as some of you are but at least I know I have loved Liverpool since my Football card collection days when I was 11, and after 25 years, I think its good to know there are plenty of passion still in the EPL... oops BPL and its fans throughout the world thumbup.gif
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post May 12 2009, 11:17 AM

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QUOTE(REDShaun @ May 12 2009, 10:51 AM)
To be fair, most people in Malaysia or around the region has more or less some areas of Glory hunting to a certain extend... ask yourself this

1. how much is your knowledge about the team you support? (you don't have to be an expert but FFS at least know who the manager is and who's your players and at least some history as to what,when,why,what of the team)

2. do you wear your jersey or at least are you proud to put on that jersey even when your team is in the slums or loses in the weekend? (be honest here, vanity plays a big part in a supporter, what separates them are actually to what extend you let vanity represent you as a fan..glory hunting?) - i like this point here personally as i know people personally for hiding their jersey especially after being dumped over the weekend tongue.gif

3. do you need to be coax to catch the games or do you make it an effort to actually watch it, rejoice in it, stay till the very end? We may not be in the country where the beautiful game is played, but making an effort to at least watch it says a lot about whether you are a fan of football or just a fan of a club smile.gif

I don't mean to discriminate or anything, I may not even be the FAN-atic as some of you are but at least I know I have loved Liverpool since my Football card collection days when I was 11, and after 25 years, I think its good to know there are plenty of passion still in the EPL... oops BPL and its fans throughout the world  thumbup.gif
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I'm sorry but I would like to point your that your misinterpretation on Glory Hunters.

Your post is to show how passionate or knowledgeable a fans could be.

A less passionate or knowledgeable fans CAN be a royal fans.

A very passionate or knowledgeable fans CAN be a glory hunter too. tongue.gif

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post May 12 2009, 11:21 AM

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QUOTE(kimhoong @ May 12 2009, 11:17 AM)

A less passionate or knowledgeable fans CAN be a royal fans.

A very passionate or knowledgeable fans CAN be a glory hunter too. tongue.gif
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Agree with both, but yet to meet one knowledgeable and passionate glory hunter.
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post May 12 2009, 11:23 AM

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QUOTE(kimhoong @ May 12 2009, 11:17 AM)

A less passionate or knowledgeable fans CAN be a royal fans.

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No they can't unless they are from some sort of ROYAL family tongue.gif
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post May 12 2009, 11:32 AM

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Just because United can actually WIN titles,does not make their fans glory hunters (reference to first page).

The way some of you are posting is like every single fan is supposed to be a die-hard fan,and there's nothing else to it.
Its either; You MUST LIVE AND DIE FOR YOUR CLUB kind of mentality.

What about the other people who just enjoy watching that certain team play?

Ill use myself for example : I became a Man Utd fan around the time Beckham came on the scene. I was around 10 then,and i used to watch highlights of matches on TV3. I was impressed when i watched how United played especially from the right wing.
From there,i started to watch more and more of their matches and got hooked to everything they did.
Right now,i can safely say im a die-hard United fan. If they don't win,it affects everything I do etc etc.


So,by saying that glory hunters are this and that,always remember that some people might just like the club and enjoy the sport at a 'normal' level and not the same as us passionate fans.
Is that wrong?
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QUOTE(vreis @ May 12 2009, 11:23 AM)
No they can't unless they are from some sort of ROYAL family  tongue.gif
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You got me there ! laugh.gif should have taken more dose of caffeine this morning doh.gif

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post May 12 2009, 11:37 AM

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QUOTE(kimhoong @ May 12 2009, 11:17 AM)
A less passionate or knowledgeable fans CAN be a royal fans.

A very passionate or knowledgeable fans CAN be a glory hunter too. tongue.gif
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my post was just a personal definition actually... just my own opinion, i may be wrong

but point 2 i had was more on the regular Glory Hunters i know... when they know their teams won, you would see the jerse 24/7.. otherwise its in a dank dark closet somewhere... tongue.gif

and no, i have yet to meet a very passionate or knowledgeable fan who is a glory hunter yet.. the word "passion" is a word defining something above the normal, and that part speaks volumes i guess.

and yes royal fans can be passionate fans too... Prince Harry and William are actually Footie lovers, i think blush.gif

don't worry about it bro, we are all footie lovers here
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post May 12 2009, 11:46 AM

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Lets not hit around the bush or be so philosophical about it. Those that switch off the tele or changes the channel when their team are losing 0-1, 0-3, 1-4 are glory hunters.

Those attending fans that leave the stadiums at half time are glory hunters.

Those that leaves the stadium before the final whistle are glory hunters.

Those that leaves the mamak stalls before the final whistle are glory hunters.

Glory hunters means what it means, people who only concern with success and glory. Its not about how you first start supporting a club, its how you react to disappointments that defines you.
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post May 12 2009, 11:48 AM

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QUOTE(hfi @ May 12 2009, 11:46 AM)
Lets not hit around the bush or be so philosophical about it. Those that switch off the tele or changes the channel when their team are losing 0-1, 0-3, 1-4 are glory hunters.

Those attending fans that leave the stadiums at half time are glory hunters.

Those that leaves the stadium before the final whistle are glory hunters.

Those that leaves the mamak stalls before the final whistle are glory hunters.

Glory hunters means what it means, people who only concern with success and glory. Its not about how you first start supporting a club, its how you react to disappointments that defines you.
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and that my fren... i have seen plenty... whistling.gif
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post May 12 2009, 11:56 AM

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A Glory Hunter;

Picks out a strong, winning team just to blend in with the crowd. Takkan nak support West Brom plak kan? (On 2nd thought, like our friend here said it's not about how you start supporting a club, it's how you react to the disappointments. True enough. So can't say much about this.)

Watches them play with 50% interest (provided he/she knows the schedule).

Doesn't really analyze the match (who's controlling the midfield etc etc), only cares about the result.

If the team wins, boasts all around. Starts to text message rival fans "Haha. padan muka kalah".

Bashes the team when they lose, instead of giving constructive ideas or criticism.

Leave the place early when their team is losing.

Doesn't really bother digging out at least a bit of the history of the club.

Changes club when their team is shitty? Hmm. Haven't met one yet. Maybe they don't have the balls to do that. To support the team they used to loathe.

These are my opinions only. No offense. smile.gif

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post May 12 2009, 12:04 PM

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QUOTE(JonC @ May 11 2009, 01:55 PM)
My 2cents definition of it is:
1 - someone who "claims" to support the club but know nuts about the history of the club
2 - someone who only shows up after the club won and goes missing when the vice versa happens
3 - someone who switches club more often than i change shirt and follows where the "wind" blows - lalang lah
4 - someone who goes around inciting hatred and flame-baits by posting crap and illogical views
5 - someone who does not know what "beautiful" football is and is only concerned about winning
6 - someone who does not not how to be gracious in victory and defeat

Just my dua sen. Don't shoot me.  tongue.gif
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excerpt from my post touching on the subject in Kop Talk
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post May 12 2009, 12:11 PM

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i admit i'm glory hunter during the early 90's..

1st - that the time i started watch EPL
2nd - 90's dominated by united
3rd - fascinated by giggs and cantona
4th- when u started supporting why support losing club, might as well support winning team

team that u started to support is either influnce by:

- the timing u start to watch football, which team is winning the trophies
- ur family influnce
-peer influence
- partner influence

do you think alot ppl go search for club history before decide which team he/she should be supporting?
if there are any in here please state it..

sorry is this is out of scope..

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post May 12 2009, 12:17 PM

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QUOTE(Red11DEvils @ May 12 2009, 12:11 PM)
i admit i'm glory hunter during the early 90's..

1st - that the time i started watch EPL
2nd - 90's dominated by united
3rd - fascinated by giggs and cantona
4th- when u started supporting why support losing club, might as well support winning team

team that u started to support is either influnce by:

- the timing u start to watch football, which team is winning the trophies
- ur family influnce
-peer influence
- partner influence

do you think alot ppl go search for club history before decide which team he/she should be supporting?
if there are any in here please state it
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does influence coming from a stack of bubblegum footie cards count? since my dad explained about Liverpool to me (and him being an Arsenal fan) I think he was actually happy i took a liking to football. he explained the players, a bit of history and then he helped me collect my all Liverpool collection cards.. being no Astro TV or live games at that time, i think my only influence was actually an Arsenal Dad and a bunch of cards that looks cool smile.gif oh and the BBC radio of cos tongue.gif

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QUOTE(kimhoong @ May 12 2009, 11:17 AM)
I'm sorry but I would like to point your that your misinterpretation on Glory Hunters.

Your post is to show how passionate or knowledgeable a fans could be.

A less passionate or knowledgeable fans CAN be a royal fans.


A very passionate or knowledgeable fans CAN be a glory hunter too. tongue.gif
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Did u mean Real Madrid fans? laugh.gif
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post May 12 2009, 12:34 PM

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QUOTE(REDShaun @ May 12 2009, 12:17 PM)
does influence coming from a stack of bubblegum footie cards count? since my dad explained about Liverpool to me (and him being an Arsenal fan) I think he was actually happy i took a liking to football. he explained the players, a bit of history and  then he helped me collect my all Liverpool collection cards.. being no Astro TV or live games at that time, i think my only influence was actually an Arsenal Dad and a bunch of cards that looks cool smile.gif oh and the BBC radio of cos tongue.gif
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Seriously got bubblegum footie cards? cool2.gif generation gap spotted haha.... i think its too harsh to brand someone just started supporting a team be it winning team n do not truly understand about the club as glory hunter...those new supporter will tend to boast when winning and hide when losing cos they may not know the true meaning of supporting clubs...

mentioned by other forummer, everyone outside England started out as glory hunters...so give those ppl some times to truly understand what supporting football club really about
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lol bubblegum footie cards...i remember those...
small like 2cm x 5cm long cards...
BBC radio on short wave tongue.gif

f*** la...back then we didnt support teams as much as having heroes...
like kenny dalglish, bryan robson, ray clemence, peter shilton...

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I've said before that I have 2 friends (close circle) who are typical glory hunters. One of them supports only winning teams like Ferarri in the F1. Well they were winning when he started supporting them. He says he supports Man Utd but doesn't watch a single game and knows next to nothing about them. Is this considered 'support'? Another doesn't watch games either but likes to rub my face in the dirt when they beat us. His motto is, "we can lose to anyone as long as we don't lose to Liverpool", and yes, he openly said this. I'm like WTF??? You know what? Even if they are my friends, I'll leave them be because they'll look really stupid amongst a group of real fans.
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QUOTE(hfi @ May 12 2009, 11:46 AM)
Lets not hit around the bush or be so philosophical about it. Those that switch off the tele or changes the channel when their team are losing 0-1, 0-3, 1-4 are glory hunters.

Those attending fans that leave the stadiums at half time are glory hunters.

Those that leaves the stadium before the final whistle are glory hunters.

Those that leaves the mamak stalls before the final whistle are glory hunters.

Glory hunters means what it means, people who only concern with success and glory. Its not about how you first start supporting a club, its how you react to disappointments that defines you.
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I agree with your second part, but not the first three lines.

I think most people who leave early are just easily frustrated and cannot bear to watch the painful display. It doesn't mean that when they leave early they are considering supporting another team. Unless they switch teams, then they are glory hunters.
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yeah, when liverpool led man utd 1-3 i found it very painful to watch
its like ur family is in heavy pain but u couldnt do anything to overturn the situation
but im still watching, hoping for any miracle.. turned out to be 1-4 tongue.gif
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I have friend previously supporting Arsenal because the team at young age and have a beautiful free flow game. But after frustrating with Wenger wages policy & end up trophyless. He convert to Liverpool because of numbers of English and European Champions. Can assume my friend as glory hunter?

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