i think i mentioned before, but no one reply...
but what else can mu fans do when their team is losing?
keep silent? leave?
they obviously cant sing since the only song they know is glory glory...and that wont fit in.

I can assure you it is not like what u mentioned and i am not sure how to describe it. It's not like i leave and totally not thinking about the match all afterwards. In fact, i do check the result every now and then online. It's just to painful to watch.

This post has been edited by O-haiyo: May 14 2009, 04:50 PM

MAybe you're not a Glory Hunter, perhaps just don't have enough faith that you'll turn the result around?

I admit, i switch off the TV when United are down 2 or 3-0 ... but i dont think it makes me a bad fan or a glory hunter... In fact the analogy of leaving your girlfriend/best mate/ etc etc when they are in need is completely out of context! Its watching bloody television. I still brood and mourn when the team loses, but to term me or ppl like me who switch off the telly as Glory Hunters just because we're losing, is preposterous and absurd

Maybe its human nature? You've watched liverpool drop so many points and lose or play crap every season to Arsenal when they went on their invincible run!! Wudve been much easier! And to you, id be a loyal supporter! LOL !!!

I passed by a pasar malam just now and they were selling all sortsa goodies of the Big 4, and i saw cute keychains etc etc and i thought to myself, i want to get these! But i didnt! why? Cos that means im not buying original United goods, and that doesnt help my club. Some might call it stupid, others might call it die-hard loyalists ... and im the same guy who switches off the telly when my team is being throttled, and the same guy who doesnt read soccernet for a week when they lose and the same guy who doesnt look at the back pages when we drop points etc etc

But to put a measure of our loyalty to the club, on the basis of watching their game, is derogatory if you ask me.

Im studying for my exams in less than a month away, so i didnt watch the game against Wigan last nite, in that context, it makes me worse off as a supporter? Puhleeez.

This post has been edited by aboogee: May 15 2009, 01:22 AM

And if i may add, i totally disagree and disgusted everytime somebody talking about: 'Your football club' first, family comes second. I don't think everyone should prioritize football more than the other important things in your life, family, friends and religion for example?

The second things is if i may add, does posting in a forum makes you a true supporter? I don't really understand when somebody needs to prove that he or she is the true supporter JUST on the internet. Wikipedia and Google can be accessed in seconds, come on.

This post has been edited by maxizanc: May 15 2009, 02:12 AM

What is the correlation between your keychain and your support? At the end of the day you are still not buying anything so either way no money goes to the club. Further more, I think I'd rather not buy any jersey at all and save the money to go support your team. Merchandises are really the worst indicator of being a fan. Anyone could go out and buy a top. But not everyone could have faith and stick with the team through thick and thin.


I disgust you then. Liverpool IS my religion in a way. Its heritage serves as a beacon to me when leading my own life. I listen to Liverpool songs when I am down. I have Shankly's picture and quotes posted on my wall in front of my study. It motivates me. It guides me. It keeps my heads up and shows me the light at the end of the tunnel. It is as important as my family. It is one of the most important things in my life. My friends know that, my family knows that and my girlfriend knows that. None of them complains.

2nd thing: Makes no difference. Forum or not, does not make a difference. It is just like a pub without the faces and pints.

Why don't we just agree to disagree on this issue. This involves individual faith and we don't wanna to derail this thread

guys..here is glory hunter thread lar..not those thread to debate how u define real fans or the way of life... here is supposed a thread for glory hunter to own up and how they become glory hunter...

I'm not the kind who turns away when the team is down. Its not like the only reason I support my club is becoz I want to be victorious. Trophies mean something, but end of the day, its not the reason you should be loving your club.

My apologize to everyone who offended by my statement. What corez said is true that it involves individual faith.

Peace.

So you turn off the TV when your team is losing, you stop reading soccernet news for a week (either because you're too embarrassed or you're brooding/mourning or whatever) and you find it preposterous and absurd when someone calls you a glory hunter? Look I'm not trying to offend you or anyone else here. To me the term glory hunter isn't even derogatory. And I believe that anyone who supports a big club are glory hunters in some measure even if they've stuck through the club through barren years and such. I just find your post kinda amusing actually.

And I agree with Monstar that merchandise, fake or original, should never be an indicator of how strong your support is. And your example about not watching due to your exams is out of context. Of course you have to be responsible enough to know when you have to skip watching football matches sometimes (because of work or study or family matters etc). I myself haven't watch every single Madrid match this season. But it's about the times you do watch and you see your team getting hammered. What do you do? Your actions define you. For the record I watched Barca's mauling of my team on home ground till the very last minute.

hahahaha
this is funny
sorry couldn't help it . PEACE!
but u shudnt do that

I change the channel. But I flip back. Sometimes I think I jinx my team when I'm watching them live. Somehow I feel if I switch channels a little there's hope they will play better.

You talk about people closing off TV when losing are being crappy fans. The truly crappy fans won't bother tuning up for the next match. Casual fans feel the pain of losing but will still read their team news and watch the following game hoping for a change.

Glory hunters on the other hand feel nothing when their team is in decline, because they would simply switch to the next big thing.

glory hunter takkan bangun pukul 3 pagi tgk bola....

Newbie here.
I'm not sure how to classify myself here. Am I a "real fan" or "Glory Hunter"?
To tell you the truth, in the end of the day, by supporting a sports team, you seek for glory. You want your team to win the games. You want them to lift the trophies. What is it for? Guess what... is it for glory? I think so.

I started to support Man Utd on the dawn of Cantona era. Replaced by the guys from class of 92. Should I be blamed and simply called glory hunter coz I just started supporting Man Utd during the time we're winning trophies and not way before? Your call...

For me, i like to cal myself a fan that hunt for glory...

Good point... all football fans are seeking for glory... nobody likes to see their team lose week in and out unless you are a west brom fan..

All the big 4 teams win at least some trophies in the last 10 years...and ppl enjoy watching their team winning...

Thats why in Malaysia, if you don't support the big 4... ppl will laugh at you...






This post has been edited by MamulaMoon: May 16 2009, 01:31 PM

If you support a big 4 club just because to avoid somebody to laugh at you, sorry, but I think that's very pathetic and lame reason of supporting a big 4 club...

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Added on May 16, 2009, 1:44 pmNo doubt, everyone want their team to win.But to use that as a reason to support the big club just doesn't make sense.Are you saying that the west brom, hull and other smaller clubs supporters don't want their club to win?Is a joke if you think so.Wanting a club to win and supporting a club because they are winning are two different things.

I have to say that it's a bit too harsh to say that west brom fans like seeing their team lose week in and week out.

To start supporting because the club is winning is ok(to me) but do make sure you have the initiative to know the basic information about team and stick with the team when they are no longer in the glorious days.Can you imagine a die-hard fans of Chelsea call Cech as PETER CHECH?And you, a manchester united fans claiming C.Ronaldo plays for England?I mean, these are basic information that everyone should know and yet, you who claimed to support the club do not know this?Give me a break.

This post has been edited by solstice818: May 16 2009, 01:47 PM

these big 4 club must be grateful and thankful to the glory hunter...

without glory hunter they can not buy 30 mil pound rooney, torres, sheva, arshavin...

Glory hunters..thanks. These club bloody need you

The correlation between buying the original merchandise and supporting the club is in the economic nature itself. Its like buying pirated dvds and not contributing back to the ppl who put in effort to make the movie, to which the inclination would be pure injustice to the ppl who put in the sweat and tears. I saved the same 5 bucks on that crap of a keychain and id contribute it to a fund to buy an original jersey. I distinctly remember when there was a heated debate on buying a fake jersey/AAAAAAA jersey and an original jersey. Fundamentally the contribution heads back to the club. On that basis, i find myself being a better supporter. Maybe to satisfy you, id have to go to Old Trafford every week to catch the game, then id fit the definition of a "REAL" fan since merchandise is the WORST manner of showing support to your club! Watching the telly during the game doesnt contribute to the club materially, going out and getting the goods does. You dont like it? Then next time send an email to Liverpool or Real Madrid and congratulate them instead of buying the jersey...

Ive never for one moment been embarassed if my team has lost, even in the most humiliating manner. Infact after i posted my last one here, only then did i remember after the 4-1 mauling to the hands of Pool which i watched at home via Livescore cos i switched off the tv at 3-1, i actually wore my United jersey to the mamaks and i wore it with pride, and i met my pool mates ! LOL! turned out to be the best thing cos i took a bet with him, that night itself when United lost to them, that United wud go on to win the league. Now i get to burn his Liverpool Jersey

With due respect to your beliefs on the appropriate traits of a "REAL" fan, I dont think switching on the tv or switching off the tv wud make a difference to the way the match is being played or the final outcome. Neither do i believe that I have to sit and swamp myself in public whenever the team plays immaterial of the result. Its not about what you're doing during the match that counts, its your stance after the match.

When United lost 4-1, 2-0 consecutively, not once did i say that the team was rubbish, that we're going to capitulate in immense proportions. I stuck by my club...i will continue to do so, just as i said after we had gone 2-3 years on a barren run. (I cant be blamed if they havent gone on a barren run for 20 years so i can show my loyalty ...)

So for some of you, you can take the piss on whether sitting down and watching a football match is a measure of ure loyalty to the club, to me i think it counts for shite. So the likes of MariMo, you can laugh and roll on the floor laughing, but its the way that i support my team, whether theyre being mauled, or whether theyre dishing out the beating

Verx - this post was originally intended for ya, but the nasty nature in it is towards the Pool fans who think theyre the worlds greatest lot. So extrapolate the necessary context and leave the tone

This post has been edited by aboogee: May 17 2009, 04:04 AM

@ bolded part
i still remembered u saying it over the united forums lol...
after the countless hurling abuse during those times, i think u got the last laugh in the end...

@ on topic
nowadays, glory hunter is normally used towards the fans of a successful club which is so wrong!