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post May 13 2009, 09:41 AM

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post May 13 2009, 09:54 AM

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post May 13 2009, 09:57 AM

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QUOTE(Everdying @ May 13 2009, 09:54 AM)
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QUOTE(vreis @ May 13 2009, 09:57 AM)
U are caught in timewarp  whistling.gif
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no la, the malaysian team ceased to exist when he died tongue.gif
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post May 13 2009, 11:57 AM

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QUOTE(little_mozart @ May 13 2009, 12:00 AM)
Some of logic I can see here,

Real fans is someone who know wikipedia of their club.

If like tat, some of "real fans" is formerly glory hunters because at the first day being a fan they don't know the background of their club. How can boys in the age of 8, 9, 10 or 11 know the history of the club? And that time that club was doing good and winning the title. Boys in the age of 8, 9, 10 start to support because that club was winning. So that is GLORY HUNTER.

Don't say la we know the history, watch every game week in week out..that is REAL FAN....digg our self when we start to support. If like situation above, we are GLORY HUNTER converts to "SELF CLAIMED" REAL FAN. Don't talk big big la sampai meletup this LYN.

Some of self claimed REAL FAN is formerly GLORY HUNTER. Agree?
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This post has been edited by munky: May 13 2009, 11:58 AM
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post May 13 2009, 12:03 PM

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QUOTE(Pain_X @ May 12 2009, 11:39 PM)
Hmm,then you should respect me for supporting MU through all our rough incidents as well : Selling of Stam,flying boot to Becks,massive reshuffle of the forwards,falling out with RVN,watching Dong play etc.

Tough times man,but i stuck with em  icon_idea.gif
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Won't exactly call that rough, if you want rough, it's between 1968 and 1992. Wanna what happened? Nothing, exactly zilth, that is what you call barren times or if you want, rough patches. Of course, there aren't many I know who have been supporting Man U since then.

QUOTE(miketee @ May 13 2009, 03:57 AM)
Can anyone here name ONE player in our Malaysian national team? What's the result of our last international game?
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Indra Putra Muhayuddin, Khalid Jamlus, Hairuddin Omar, Safee Ali (or was it Sali?)

The thing is that not that we don't want to support the national team, I do, they didn't play like shiat too, what they dish out is beyond that...
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post May 13 2009, 01:04 PM

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QUOTE(miketee @ May 13 2009, 03:57 AM)
Can anyone here name ONE player in our Malaysian national team? What's the result of our last international game?
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Wrong place to ask this kinda question. Wikipedia'ing or Googling can be done in seconds.
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post May 13 2009, 02:13 PM

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QUOTE(MamulaMoon @ May 12 2009, 09:43 PM)
Why all Malaysians support the big 4 (Man U, Arsenal, Liverpool, Chelsea)?

Do we need to support the big 4 to be a proper football fan?
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Ever heard of marketing?

I've also said before that back in the day I started supporting there was no ASTRO and the only live coverage we got was "Road to Wembley" which basically covered FA Cup games. Teams that featured regularly back then were Man Utd, Arsenal, Liverpool, Chelsea and Spurs.

To answer your question, I'd like to think that it requires even more devotion to support a club outside of the 'big four'.


Added on May 13, 2009, 2:14 pm
QUOTE(Pain_X @ May 12 2009, 11:39 PM)
Hmm,then you should respect me for supporting MU through all our rough incidents as well : Selling of Stam,flying boot to Becks,massive reshuffle of the forwards,falling out with RVN,watching Dong play etc.

Tough times man,but i stuck with em  icon_idea.gif
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Don't mean to judge but I wouldn't term those as 'rough' times. Despite these incidents you still won trophies.

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QUOTE(MamulaMoon @ May 12 2009, 09:43 PM)
Why all Malaysians support the big 4 (Man U, Arsenal, Liverpool, Chelsea)?

Do we need to support the big 4 to be a proper football fan?
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1. Still...Malaysian also support AC Milan, Juventus, Real Madrid, Barca, Celtic..bla..bla..bla. cool2.gif

2. Nope
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post May 13 2009, 06:19 PM

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QUOTE(hfi @ May 12 2009, 11:46 AM)
Lets not hit around the bush or be so philosophical about it. Those that switch off the tele or changes the channel when their team are losing 0-1, 0-3, 1-4 are glory hunters.

Those attending fans that leave the stadiums at half time are glory hunters.

Those that leaves the stadium before the final whistle are glory hunters.

Those that leaves the mamak stalls before the final whistle are glory hunters.

Glory hunters means what it means, people who only concern with success and glory. Its not about how you first start supporting a club, its how you react to disappointments that defines you.
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You are wrong! I did leave mamak stall when things doesn't go man utd way. It's just that i couldn't bear the pain watching my team in that kind of situation. Not because I am a glory hunter!
And I will not read the papers and go to soccernet for the whole week if man utd lost! thats how much pain it is

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post May 13 2009, 06:35 PM

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Thing is most United fans have not tasted a truly rough patch. Yea we did go three seasons with nothing to show for, but I wouldn't call that a disastrous period, it was more of us rebuilding and the rest peaking. Having said that, I cant see myself supporting anyone else.
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QUOTE(Duke Red @ May 13 2009, 02:13 PM)
Ever heard of marketing?

I've also said before that back in the day I started supporting there was no ASTRO and the only live coverage we got was "Road to Wembley" which basically covered FA Cup games. Teams that featured regularly back then were Man Utd, Arsenal, Liverpool, Chelsea and Spurs.

To answer your question, I'd like to think that it requires even more devotion to support a club outside of the 'big four'.


Added on May 13, 2009, 2:14 pm

Don't mean to judge but I wouldn't term those as 'rough' times. Despite these incidents you still won trophies.
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I was actually trying to be funny,i guess i haz failz. hmm.gif

But i agree with your initial post about marketing. I remember the first time i saw the Man Utd store in (i think one utama),they had the devils logo on everything.And I WANTED IT ALL. But they also had nice UK rated pricing sad.gif
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QUOTE(Pain_X @ May 14 2009, 12:40 AM)
But i agree with your initial post about marketing. I remember the first time i saw the Man Utd store in (i think one utama),they had the devils logo on everything.And I WANTED IT ALL. But they also had nice UK rated pricing  sad.gif
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and now i dun think there's any manutd store in m'sia edi. semua tutup. sweat.gif sweat.gif
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QUOTE(O-haiyo @ May 13 2009, 06:19 PM)
You are wrong! I did leave mamak stall when things doesn't go man utd way. It's just that i couldn't bear the pain watching my team in that kind of situation. Not because I am a glory hunter!
And I will not read the papers and go to soccernet for the whole week if man utd lost! thats how much pain it is
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So what you saying is you only support your team when things go your way ? Ok.
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QUOTE(hfi @ May 14 2009, 11:16 AM)
So what you saying is you only support your team when things go your way ? Ok.
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Don't you undertand my statement?
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the view that most of us in Malaysia start following oversea club due to their glory, or at least glory days is valid even not entirely true

take myself for example. i start supporting Arsenal because of Ian Wright joining them. i was crazy about Ian Wright back in the "Road to Wembley" days. heck, my first ever original Arsenal jersey from 04/05 season is with Wrighty NN. when i found out he's joining Arsenal, i decide to make Arsenal my club. but even before that, i'd already know a little bit about Arsenal especially about Anfield 89; IT'S UP FOR GRAB NOW!!! so somehow, that also played a part in me deciding Arsenal to be my club

does that made me a glory hunters? i certainly do not think so

for me it's not how you start supporting the team, it's how you react to disappointment with the team that determined what kind of a fans you are

and oh, just to add 1 more thing. those who did not watch your team play whenever possible also fall under glory hunters group for me

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You stated that you leave early when things aren't going man uted way right ? Im not sure about you, but to me, the moment you turn your back on your team, you cease supporting it - at least temporarily.

Look I know its painful at times, as LFC supporter i know exactly what that means. But i wont get off my seat just because we're losing. Its like bailing out on your best friend/gf/wife/pet when he/she/it needs you the most. It just sounds to me that you put yourself above your club when you bail. If they're on the verge of winning and you twatting teams 3-0, you have no problem staying. But the moment things start going against you and it gets too painful watch, you rather walk out of your team than staying to support them. That to me is conditional support.





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I have to say that to leave the match just because the team is trailing is unacceptable albeit you feel so "painful" when watching it.

Take The champion league quarter final 1st leg as an example, Liverpool lost 1-3 to Chelsea.What do you say about those waking up in the wee hour to watch the team play for 2nd leg despite the odds showing that we won't make through it?Isn't it painful to watch it when your team were 2 behind and was actually playing away?Make no mistakes, some are working adults.They only had around 2hrs sleep before going to work again.

Which is why I think to use "painful" as a reason to leave the match when your team was trailing behind is just too unacceptable.
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Glory Hunter sound too much for them to accept, maybe we can call them 'Mainstream Fans'.
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