QUOTE(carloz28 @ May 11 2009, 03:14 PM)
No doubt Manchester United is a great club and i have great respect for some of their players such as Giggs, RVN, Ronaldo. Eventhough they were winning numerous titles and cups back in the 90s i didn't really bother much about as i only perceive Man u as another good football team just as i think of Barcelona, Inter Milan, Ajax or Madrid back then.
Things, however changed drastically in 1999. After their shocking last gasp victory over Bayern Munich in CL Final that year, the MAN U fanboom exploded and the hype was spreading like wildfire. Some of my friends who doesn't know jack shit or watch football suddenly begin supporting Manchester United. And yet the appalling thing is, they couldn't even name more than 3 players in their favorite team. They will tell you Cantona is from Spain. They start asking you what jersey color is Man u players because they can recognize their team. They couldn't differentiate between Butt, Scholes and Solskjaer because all three of them have the same haircut. And the next minute you know, Beckham with his Armani looks, starts to pull the girl audience into football. People who don't like football suddenly likes football by swearing their short allegiance to Manchester United. Manchester United jersey become the latest COOL toy to have among youngsters and schoolboys alongside Nike AIR JORDAN and Sony playstation.
Soon after, commercialism creeps in and Man U cafes, Man U TV, Man U shops started to mushroom one by one all over the world. In fact, without realizing it, Manchester United has bring EPL to the mainstream and transformed the club into a cultural icon. Not a bad move from the finance perspective as other clubs follow suit. More and more Man U fans appeared out of nowhere with more than 70% of them still doesn't know who the heck is Alex Ferguson and yet they claimed that they support Man United.
That is when i realized that it is the prawn sandwich fans that is making my blood boil not the team itself. Of course, having said that I believe there are a lot of "genuine" Man Utd fans out there who support the team wholeheartedly and not just in for Beckhamania or Ronaldo's flashy stepovers. Sad but truth but this is what Manchester fans have become nowadays.....just my 2 cents.
Things, however changed drastically in 1999. After their shocking last gasp victory over Bayern Munich in CL Final that year, the MAN U fanboom exploded and the hype was spreading like wildfire. Some of my friends who doesn't know jack shit or watch football suddenly begin supporting Manchester United. And yet the appalling thing is, they couldn't even name more than 3 players in their favorite team. They will tell you Cantona is from Spain. They start asking you what jersey color is Man u players because they can recognize their team. They couldn't differentiate between Butt, Scholes and Solskjaer because all three of them have the same haircut. And the next minute you know, Beckham with his Armani looks, starts to pull the girl audience into football. People who don't like football suddenly likes football by swearing their short allegiance to Manchester United. Manchester United jersey become the latest COOL toy to have among youngsters and schoolboys alongside Nike AIR JORDAN and Sony playstation.
Soon after, commercialism creeps in and Man U cafes, Man U TV, Man U shops started to mushroom one by one all over the world. In fact, without realizing it, Manchester United has bring EPL to the mainstream and transformed the club into a cultural icon. Not a bad move from the finance perspective as other clubs follow suit. More and more Man U fans appeared out of nowhere with more than 70% of them still doesn't know who the heck is Alex Ferguson and yet they claimed that they support Man United.
That is when i realized that it is the prawn sandwich fans that is making my blood boil not the team itself. Of course, having said that I believe there are a lot of "genuine" Man Utd fans out there who support the team wholeheartedly and not just in for Beckhamania or Ronaldo's flashy stepovers. Sad but truth but this is what Manchester fans have become nowadays.....just my 2 cents.
QUOTE(Jonno @ May 11 2009, 03:37 PM)
Actually, they were at it before hand, George Best was the first pop star footballer, and before Beckham, Giggs was the poster boy for Man U, and before Giggs, there's a certain Lee Sharpe who was the poster boy. Still it didn't beat Beckhamania and now Charliemania (Charlie Ronaldo, after I got ban numerous time for calling him C*** Ronaldo, now I prefer Charlie, or if you prefer, crybaby, after last night's tantrum). If I get ban for calling him Charlie
In a way, I do agree with you, the popularity of Premier League has let to many people making good "investments" when they get good "returns" from staking the kids' college funds (or the months' allowance for younger ones) on it, which also led them to "follow" the teams, whomever it may be, which also leads to them "following" different teams as lately different teams has won the league. Which is also a reason you see lots of people wearing Blackburn shirts after 1995/96 season when they won the league thanks to Uncle Jack's (for those who don't know him, there's this things called Wikipedia and google) money and Shearer's goals.
The main thing that gets me, honestly, that these glory hunters (again, not targeting anyone) do not bother to look up information of the club. I mean, with advancement of technology, all it takes is to sit in front of the PC for about an hour, look it up in Wikipedia (or the club site, but that might be too long and difficult, some of these glory hunters have problem reading long sentences, which makes this post safe) and all you need to know about the club in a nutshell will be there, then maybe, they will somehow find a connection with the team and become a true supporter.
If a girl can do that and learn about Liverpool, then tell me that she cannot consider herself a Liverpool fan after reading about the club in Wikipedia, because of the connection and passion she read so much about the team, and can talk to me about things concerning the club and even discuss it. Then where does it puts these so called glory hunting fans?
"Followers" that is, that's what they are, they just follow, without knowing anything.
I know the sentiments and that this might cause a big war, but we are here to discuss it, you you ok with it? Why? Do you despise it? Why? How would you classify one as that? How you try not to get the tag of a glory hunter? In a way, I do agree with you, the popularity of Premier League has let to many people making good "investments" when they get good "returns" from staking the kids' college funds (or the months' allowance for younger ones) on it, which also led them to "follow" the teams, whomever it may be, which also leads to them "following" different teams as lately different teams has won the league. Which is also a reason you see lots of people wearing Blackburn shirts after 1995/96 season when they won the league thanks to Uncle Jack's (for those who don't know him, there's this things called Wikipedia and google) money and Shearer's goals.
The main thing that gets me, honestly, that these glory hunters (again, not targeting anyone) do not bother to look up information of the club. I mean, with advancement of technology, all it takes is to sit in front of the PC for about an hour, look it up in Wikipedia (or the club site, but that might be too long and difficult, some of these glory hunters have problem reading long sentences, which makes this post safe) and all you need to know about the club in a nutshell will be there, then maybe, they will somehow find a connection with the team and become a true supporter.
If a girl can do that and learn about Liverpool, then tell me that she cannot consider herself a Liverpool fan after reading about the club in Wikipedia, because of the connection and passion she read so much about the team, and can talk to me about things concerning the club and even discuss it. Then where does it puts these so called glory hunting fans?
"Followers" that is, that's what they are, they just follow, without knowing anything.
Most importantly, how come there are so many of these Charlies here?
This post has been edited by Jonno: May 12 2009, 01:14 AM
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