I welcome you to join us with open arms, aspire.

This post has been edited by A-D-Photographer: Jun 8 2009, 12:23 AM

Cool down guys.

There's no need to explain to people why we do things the way we do it. Those people who criticise us for wanting to have a bit of fun wouldn't understand all the hard work that we have put in for this mission as they are the same type of person who sits behind the PC and criticise other people who actually went out to help while doing nothing about it themselves

As mentioned by Dadarouch, we are not under anyone's payroll and we are entitled to have time off and have fun from the volunteering work.

Espada, don't get worked up over the criticsm. We all know what we all did for the dogs and FFF. No need to demand an apology.

well... perhaps you guys should then have the non-essential or non-dog rescue related discussions via PM.
the thing is, this dog rescue thing seems to have reached the public domain, and there is a very ugly spat going on between two sides. in turn this means that what goes on here can well be picked up and be blown up as an issue which in turn may hurt FFF.
at any rate, by limiting this thread to the rescue ops and discussions, it would make it easier for others to take you guys more seriously and perhaps convince the fence sitters to chip in?

my 2 cents onli wor.

I get your point, but it was just the minutes of our meeting. Thanks for your input.

Anyways, don't judge a book by its cover is what I can say. We might talk crap and have fun in the forums or using MSN meetings, but in reality, only those who have seen our work will know that we take this seriously.

Personally, I don't think it's wrong to go a little OT sometimes in the thread. The members are not oblivious to it, and we do try to keep it to bare minimum. What's the point of volunteering and being part of a team, if we cannot have some non-serious discussion and fun? It would be boring if it was all seriousness- no personal connections or rapport between the team.

You guys should really start your own forum instead...

You guys will be the admin of your own board, and therefore, you will not be restricted of your freedom of speech while maintaining your ability to maintain a board with decent post...

There are a few free forum provider out there... and I can help you to set up one if you require...

I really don't see the need to create another forum for this mission. We are just a group of students/full-time office workers who volunteers some of our free time to help out in any way we can for the dogs and at FFF. Why the need for our own forum? No one is restricting our freedom of speech at all - just that there's a few people with too much time on their hands nitpicking at what we do during our time off from the volunteer work.

I don't see the same person who was criticising us gave anyone of us a word of appreciation (not that we're asking for it) for our work but have time to criticise us for wanting to have a get-together session. Anyone can clearly read that the updates are related to our mission except for the last part.

As mentioned by Dadarouch, the movie session mentioned was part of the minutes of our meeting. I don't see a need to explain to those who weren't there when and why the movies session topic was in the discussion last week since it is none of their concern. Those of you guys, including the new members, who were in the meeting will know the truth.

Anyway, just ignore nitpickers with too much time on their hands. We just do what we are supposed to do.

Thanks for the hard work last weekend guys. Really appreciate it.

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Added on June 8, 2009, 4:16 pmHi Madmoz, thank you for the feedback. Rest assured that we are not badmouthing any other parties that are involved in the dog rescue mission. As for the OT discussions, which I admit happened several times in this thread, we always bring it back to the main topic - discussions about what, where, who, when the missions are to done/conducted.

Apart from the minutes of the meeting stating that we want to have a get together session for S.A.D members, there was nothing in the thread at all about 'entertainment' activities.

I am sure anyone who has been following us closely since the beginning knows very well how serious all of us are about this mission. We can't help it if some people wants to make it look as if we're not serious about this and treating this mission as 'for fun'. We really don't see the need to tell them how much sweat, tears and money has gone in for this mission. But anyway, thank you for your feedback.

This post has been edited by chibi_tenko: Jun 8 2009, 04:16 PM

chibi_tenko took the words right out of my mouth.

Yes, we do go OT on the thread, but we are not oblivious to it and do realise it, and we try to limit our more personal chit-chat to other mediums such as MSN. We talk a lot, but we work more.

As a group we are very committed to our cause of helping the furry friends, and because of this commitment, we have grown from complete strangers (For most of us) to a more close-knit bunch. Imagine if we're serious all the time, would we be able to develop such good rapport with one another? Would our performance be better if we're constantly serious? It's because of our ability to click with one another and be bonded by this cause, and our ability to be non-serious, that we are able to do more together.

All in all, please don't judge a book by its cover. Try to follow us on one of our outings to FFF, see what we do, and take a step in our shoes.

This post has been edited by Yukaeshi: Jun 8 2009, 11:05 PM

It's official - every dog has a name, and soon they will have a tag to go with it! Michelle brought different samples of chains, and tested it on several residents of Furry Friends Farm. Honey was the first to have a name tag attached, and next was Cash.

- Read the rest of the updates here -

Actually u can make it a weekly/monthly meeting and evolve into Furry friend gathering thread. anyway why did princess die?

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Added on June 9, 2009, 3:15 amcan eat nangka and help volunteer the dogs!

This post has been edited by beatlesalbum: Jun 9 2009, 03:15 AM

we have weekly meetings every single week. and the recent meeting is the monthly meeting where we sum up for the whole month.

To the proud volunteers of SAD,

It is really good to hear that a group of you came together to establish a SAD team and helping the furry friends. It is a hard work with time and patience involved and my salute to you guys. Not everyone can do what you are doing, keep up the good work!

Anyway, you dont have to listen and take heart to others talking craps. Afterall, it is only god and you yourself knows what is going on and for doing the best to the animals. And there is nothing wrong having fun after a long hard day. As a reader, I appreciated what you are doing now and my supports to you all.

I will join you guys this weekend if possible, my msn is the same as my username here, at hotmail.com.

Personally I do not quite understand why you guys/girls need to get so defensive wor. Like i said earlier, it would be best to keep this thread 'clean' cause everything that goes on here can potentially be picked up by the other side. It is very easy to label you guys (wrongly of course) as wannabe rescuers or weekend warriors etc and discredit FFF.

Trust me, my mum (and me during my school days) have done quite a fair bit of volunteer work for the two legged kind to know that unfortunately perception and unfortunately 'media exposure' plays a HUGE part. This may sound trivial, but with more exposure means more potential sponsors/donors which in turn leads to more means and resources to help out the cause.

The team won't be going to FFF this weekend, although some members might want to go over on their own.

I'm tired of explaining things these two days and I'll give myself time off. Those people can think of what they want of our team and mission as long as we stay true to our cause. New members are of course welcomed but as mentioned, there'll be a screening process from now on, so please bear with it.

This post has been edited by chibi_tenko: Jun 9 2009, 10:20 AM

Joyce, I think there's another way for you to help FFF... your photography skill...

http://mycause.cimbfoundation.com/index.aspx

It’s CIMB Foundation MYCAUSE Contest. Participating is simple. 4 simple steps…

1. Find a worthy cause, and snap a photo of it. Or snap 5 photos of it.

2. Register for the competition.

3. Give the cause a title, and write a short description of it.

4. Upload your photos and you’re done.

Perhaps you should give it a try... with the photos you have taken so far and perhaps a few more shots, you may help FFF in winning the contest...

Joyce, go go go!

win the contest, buy more new lense!

Anyway, I've some updates on the choke chains.

I've made purchased from my company at staff price for the following items:

5 dozens of 14" choke chains
1 dozens of 16" choke chains

Total is RM57.00

Yukaeshi had given me RM100 from our inventory. So after paid up, we have RM43.00 left.
The money & choke chains would be passed to Yukaeshi on one of this day, as I wouldn't be joining FFF for the upcoming 2-weeks.

Yukaeshi, hope you don't mind ya, hehe since we live so near.
I will buzz you before you guys next operations.

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Ohyah, we would make another round of ordering again if we run out of the choke chains, that's why we didnt make a bulk order right now. Gonna spend the donations wisely. FYI.

@ Andromedia

Checked it out already, thanks! Now waiting their reply on several legal questions.

@ panasonic

The listed price cash are for the winning cause la, not by me. If I'm rewarded with cash as well, I'll use it as the capital to publish photo books with photos from FFF.

Go Joyce! Wish you all the luck!

i tot the choke chain suppose to be mine ..