If BPP with club house than it will be good but i don't think golf course too near to residence area will be good even i agreed it looks nice.
It will consume a lot of pesticide in order to maintain the nice looking grass . This will be another EIA (environmental impact assessment ) issue.
However EIA sometimes controversial between different individual opinions.

It will be good if the club house can be located middle of BPP such as next to the existing
badminton hall or ioi-intellicity. ....plant more scenic trees along the road side like Setapak housing
area.

This post has been edited by Cyberiq: Jun 13 2009, 12:12 PM

They wanna protest because the masterplan / showmodel shows the condo is low-rise (4-5 floors), not high-rise (18-19 floors). If you visit IOI salesoffice, you will see it is low-rise (I think they might remove the model by now). So, this is consider cheating / misrepresentation of facts.

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Added on June 13, 2009, 11:12 amI think IOI has done very well for Bandar Puteri Puchong (so far). The development has been well-planned and the buyers had been well-rewarded.

How many developers can give Vacant Possession and CF on the same day of handling over keys? IOI does. This is wonderful. Usually you see developers give keys for VP without CF, and the owners had to wait a few months to get the CF. I applaud IOI for this.

How many developers build the houses at least 20-30% before they open the houses for sale? IOI does. Look at serena. When IOI launched serena, the houses were already well in-progress. Most other developers sell from 0%, ie an empty land. I also applaud IOI for this.

But things can improve. Yes, developers can get greedy. They have to maximize the profits for the shareholders. Why build low-rise when you can build high-rise on the same piece of land? But what are the long term repercussions? It is physically possible, not feasible. The road entrance will be traffic nightmare. Car accidents will occur. Landslide will occur. Living conditions will worsen. Property values will plunge. IOI reputation will plunge. Bandar Puteri reputation as a well-planned residential will collapse.

IOI please think of the long term gain, not just short term gain. Plan well and I believe the reward will be win-win for everybody.

This post has been edited by yunalesca: Jun 13 2009, 11:20 AM

really hope that IOI could improve the traffic flow at Bdr Puteri Puchong....is getting worse each day
due to the huge number of shopoffice...and commercials planned for BPP.... i think they should
be another tunner/flyover to go in & out of BPP...and also re-plan the internal roads !

Yes, agree with HW-Racer. The traffic is getting worst. Especially the traffic from Puteri 1 and 2 commercial area toward the Lebuh Puteri. And the traffic around Giant is worse now!

What I like about Bandar Puteri:

+ Freehold
Some say leasehold for 99 years is a long time. But try selling a 10 years old leasehold house and a 10 years old freehold house. The leasehold will cause 2 times the pain, what with all the land office consent, etc.

+ Ex-estate land
No mining land please. I don't want any ex-mining lake masquerading as water-lifestyle lake. It is hard enough to get the authorities to care for the roads, don't expect too much for lakes.

+ Nearby ammenities and banks
Everything is nearby, but not too near. I don't want shops opposite my house. Just be close enough.

+ Single developer for whole township
IOI is responsible for the whole township. No shift-blaming to others. When the access road at Giant is congested, IOI built the fly-over. If many developers, till today they will still be fighting over who to borne the costs.

+ IOI online complaints
As house-owners, you can submit any complaints on the road, lights, parks using IOI's website. I don't see other high-end projects (ie desa parkcity) have similar website.

Bandar Puteri is IOI's cash-cow. IOI knows it. IOI can continue to build RM 600K double-storeys, RM 2.7 million bungalows and still see the houses sold out. That's because Bandar Puteri has gained a reputation for good township and the buyers trust IOI. But IOI should not misuse this trust and look for short-term gain.

If the traffic has worsen..how they will successful with their ioi-intellicity and no award for them
in future years ahead.

yunalesca,where the website URL?? Moopok can suggest this to IOI directly..

This post has been edited by Cyberiq: Jun 16 2009, 08:21 AM

Cyberiq,

The URL is MyIOI Feedback

Strange that DPC dun have such website. Did you visit their website? I believe it has not changed since many years ago. The website is more for advertisement. Desa Park City

New Hank,

True. Desa Park City wins Bandar Puteri anytime. I been to DPC few times. I can only say RM500 maintenance fee per month can help alot in maintaining the parks, etc. But I simply cannot afford (unwilling) to pay this fee every month and RM800K above for double-storey houses. (Zenia is now selling at more than 1million)

So, Bandar Puteri is the best other alternative.

This post has been edited by yunalesca: Jun 14 2009, 10:54 AM

I don't see BPP is a good place to stay. Too commercialize and getting crowded with the booming shop. I wonder future, BPP have more shop than the house. Everything is nearby. But you still need a car to go to banking, shopping and market. I wonder is it really near. It don't have a good nice garden in housing area for family activity and jogger.
IOI shouldn't build the traffic light interchange at the ldp. It better to have direct fly down to ldp-kl/pj and further U turn to go in from usj/ldp-BPP. That would smooth up the traffic without car stopping and congested.

Yes, it is actually not near at all. Still need to drive car to reach the shop and banks (It is about 4km from Puteri 12 to the shops). But this is exactly what the owners want. They don't want to live next to the shops. The residential area should be separated from the commercial area.

There are gardens, and small parks. But of course, cannot compare to DPC parks. Have a look at the jogging area at Puteri 11

You're right about the interchange. But it is water under the bridge now....

Yes, it is what resident want. What I mean is for banking, restaurant and banking, it is best far away. But for small grocery or mini market, they want some nearby. Something like small roll of shop which have mini market, kedai runcit, laundry shop or kedai logam. You don't want everytime drive down to giant just get 1 item, incase you cook halfway. Ha..... Anyway, each housing area has it pros n cons.
For housing garden, best if one big garden surround by the section house. Everyone can walk down to the garden. A walking distance. Not to driving distance.
As for the brigde, what I heard, it never approve by the ldp. And ldp want them to torn down. But don't know how it settle.

Look at different perspective, infact DPC is even more "commercialized" than IOI. IOI build township and at least willing to spend money to actively promote their township to a busy state... of course at the end of the day they could sell more.

On the other hand, DPC's developer is just plain lucky to own the land. Look at DPC website.. none of the 9 highlighted facilities is within their own township, they don't need to spend a single cent out of their township... tat's why they afford to build large garden

This post has been edited by trojant: Jun 14 2009, 03:39 PM

Eh... What and where is DPC?

Desa Park City....is located near Bukit Maluri Kepong.... near to Sunway SPK project...and near manjalara kepong....
is a high end Gated & Guarded communicty...most of the properties there selling from Rm800K now...


if u use the LDP going towards Sri Damansara...after u pass the last LDP Toll...go straight...and make a U-turn before the
traffic lights to Sri Damansasra.... after U-turn.... keep left...the 1st junction...turn left.... and u will c Desa Park city !!!

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Added on June 14, 2009, 4:17 pm

Bdr Puteri Puchong...will be Klang Valley's best place to stay if IOI build the followings :-

1) Donate land to build a bigger Police Station...
2) Built a club houses with facilities such as gym, swimming pool, tennis courts, squash...etc
3) Another entrance/exit point to BPP + better internal road systems to ensure better traffic diversion and not
choked on the main road !
4) Built fencing + guard house for each phase
5) Plant more trees in the Taman + more play ground + bigger Central Park...

This post has been edited by HW-Racer: Jun 14 2009, 04:17 PM

I see. Never hear before this place. He... I didn't compare that far. I just check the BPP map laayout and surrounding place. Or compare with their neighbour garden.
But if compare, (just neighbour garden) pusat bandar puchong is more lucky and have a better layout I think.

Newhank:
Hehe....DPC and BPP..both had it pro an cons.

Yet DPC had it own pro and cons... but in terms of traffic i think the DPC supporters cannot give any comment to BPP
as they don't have any alternative except LDP. DPC located at the end area of the Kepong area. If from Jinjang then need
to reach Kepong Baru, Taman Maluri and Manjalara. If wanna to follow Seri Sinar way, it does not better to reach KL.
If want to follow middle ring road 2...hahaha...hmmmm....

Then only LDP is the best route and it is the best place for the businessman wanna to do their business there. Anyway, is a wonderful
place for pro PJ and Kepong people to invest and with very nice security.(another rich man place).

I would say DPC was a great place for its finishing quality and security in terms of township.

Hmm..i am not saying DPC is not a good place but it depends on individual and preference.

This post has been edited by Cyberiq: Jun 14 2009, 10:00 PM

The reason why DPC comes into the topic is bcos forumer here are comparing BPP with the most well known and high class residential area in town.
Pusat bandar puchong, arr ? errh,,, lets leave it to the others to comment.

I don't see any difference between BPP and Taman Wawasan, Pusat Bandar Puchong. Just next to each others and no barriers to reach
the other neighbourhood. Taman Wawasan only had 2 row of shops and how to compare? Yet, also need to drive to shops. Any shops next to
the residents? it may be pro and cons.

If it was a warung or kedai makan then how?? more rats will come.

Thats is the reason both SP Setia and IOI will built their shops few meters from residents. This is mostly a standard to every new
and well plan housing area.

If want to have shops just under your house, then can choose Setia Walk (another good project). ...is different also.
Condo is different from DST and DST is different to Semi-d

This post has been edited by Cyberiq: Jun 14 2009, 09:48 PM

Hope IOI could emulate SP Setia by planting more trees & build better parks, Central parks (with lakes)...at bdr Puteri Puchong...

the tag of Bdr Puteri is Smart Living, Garden City (if I am not mistaken)....but look at their lanscapce + trees + parks can't
compare to SP Setia 's Pusat Bandar Puchong with mature Trees, nice central parks, good landscapes... !

This post has been edited by HW-Racer: Jun 14 2009, 09:58 PM

BPP = DPC.. no way..

For those have not been to DPC, i suggest one should go and see it to feel it ...

BPP should be close comparison with BK, PH or KK (IMHO)

DPC is just different league IMHO..

This post has been edited by eugene jk: Jun 14 2009, 10:09 PM

Yes, agreed with HW-racer, IOI should follow and plant more scenic trees to beautify the township.