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 Nokia E71 Thread V3, New firmware(v300.21.012) release on NSU

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post Aug 6 2009, 02:12 PM

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It's not that i want my battery to last long for bragging right. just that i feel maybe there's something wrong with my unit as i hardly use and it only lasted 1 1/2 day max. anyway anyone tried turning off the breathing light, the time in my phone freeze after screen light turned off
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QUOTE(red-queen @ Aug 6 2009, 12:42 PM)
thanks, but i really don't mean to insult anybody. just feel that this battery issue is being blown out of proportion.

same here, my phone is my work horse. alot of important data. hence i've made use of all the security features like sms lock etc. hehehe

but i was wondering, what if someone stole my phone, turn it off, took out my sim card, and replace it with theirs. will the sms lock still function?
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I purely accept the point of view about the battery life issue, but there are reasons for some people who need the battery life to last. As for me i do travel offen, so if the battery lasting is 1-1.5 days it'll be abit trouble as i encounter my previous PDA which last me 12hrs or 1 day (max), so i'm in the car/plane travelling, the battery is out, communication gets hard for me.

So one of the reason i go for smartphone is the battery life last longer. so i dun get bump in the road / meeting without a phone to use.
Plus If 98% of E71 users claim the bat last 1 day is normal..then everyone accepts it, but there are some people could last for 4-5 days then it's a worth to try / find out what is the reasons to improve the experience of using the phone. So that's why we share here. cool2.gif

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post Aug 6 2009, 02:57 PM

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Well said, besides there's no power point to charge hp at the places i go. although i say want to get a car charger, it make sense to turn off the features you are not using, like breathing light that you can only see in the dark!

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post Aug 6 2009, 03:40 PM

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QUOTE(Chester77 @ Aug 6 2009, 02:26 PM)
I purely accept the point of view about the battery life issue, but there are reasons for some people who need the battery life to last. As for me i do travel offen, so if the battery lasting is 1-1.5 days it'll be abit trouble as i encounter my previous PDA which last me 12hrs or 1 day (max), so i'm in the car/plane travelling, the battery is out, communication gets hard for me.

So one of the reason i go for smartphone is the battery life last longer. so i dun get bump in the road / meeting without a phone to use.
Plus If 98% of E71 users claim the bat last 1 day is normal..then everyone accepts it, but there are some people could last for 4-5 days then it's a worth to try / find out what is the reasons to improve the experience of using the phone. So that's why we share here. cool2.gif
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definitely agree with you that when you're on the move, battery life is a very important factor. but the prob here is, most of us are saying that our battery last anywhere between 1-2 days. maybe a few lucky ones lasting 4-5 days, yet again we don't know exactly how is their usage.

so since most of us here is getting pretty much the same battery life. i think it's safe to say that it's normal.

but if you still think that you should be getting more, then can try go to NSC and see if they manage to fix the prob. i'll be glad to know if there's a fix for it as well.
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post Aug 6 2009, 06:09 PM

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QUOTE(goodiefish @ Aug 6 2009, 02:12 PM)
It's not that i want my battery to last long for bragging right. just that i feel maybe there's something wrong with my unit as i hardly use and it only lasted 1 1/2 day max.  anyway anyone tried turning off the breathing light, the time in my phone freeze after screen light turned off
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maybe you can try to disable the wlan app in the home screen. I'm using E66 and I have it disabled as I found out via Nokia energy profiler that there would be an energy spike every minute or so even after you switch off wlan scanning. ie you first scan for wlan, use it to surf etc, close wlan connection and then turn off scanning.

I'm low usage user and my phone can last 2 days no problems. E66 & E71 are similar phones and with the larger battery capacity (1.5x) should be able to last 3.5 days theoretically on low usage.

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post Aug 6 2009, 07:55 PM

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QUOTE(Chester77 @ Aug 6 2009, 02:26 PM)
I purely accept the point of view about the battery life issue, but there are reasons for some people who need the battery life to last. As for me i do travel offen, so if the battery lasting is 1-1.5 days it'll be abit trouble as i encounter my previous PDA which last me 12hrs or 1 day (max), so i'm in the car/plane travelling, the battery is out, communication gets hard for me.

So one of the reason i go for smartphone is the battery life last longer. so i dun get bump in the road / meeting without a phone to use.
Plus If 98% of E71 users claim the bat last 1 day is normal..then everyone accepts it, but there are some people could last for 4-5 days then it's a worth to try / find out what is the reasons to improve the experience of using the phone. So that's why we share here. cool2.gif
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i dont think nokia suke2 put 1500MAH battery in E71 without any particular reason.With 110MB memory n 128MB RAM,of coz it'll drain ur battery.more RAM mean more SPEED.more SPEED then more POWER USAGE lorr.Maybe u can try ask n97 user as they use the same 1500MAH to run a 32GB memory with 128 RAM.then maybe u can tell the diffrent.

U can try all those tips n tricks to optimize ur battery power but for people who always on the run n as bz as u,the best advise is get urself an extra BP-4L or an emergency battery charger.Works for me thumbup.gif
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post Aug 6 2009, 10:10 PM

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anyone update their e71 to latest firmware?

it take how long for the NSU to flash?
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post Aug 6 2009, 10:51 PM

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QUOTE(bibbyGirl @ Aug 6 2009, 10:10 PM)
anyone update their e71 to latest firmware?

it take how long for the NSU to flash?
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mine was about half an hour or slightly more.. hmm.gif hmm.gif depends on internet connection i think..

and i charge my phone everyday as it gets to 3 bar at the end of the day.. tongue.gif
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post Aug 6 2009, 11:21 PM

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while i was free last night messing around with my phone before i went to bed. i found that tsrautostart.exe is running in my background via jbak taskman. so i killed it, charge my phone and went to bed.

unplug my phone charger and went to work at 10am this morning. use my phone like i usually do. now its 11.19pm, and my battery only dropped 1 bar. usually by this time of the day, my battery level is at least 50% used up.

so to those who think your battery is not lasting long enough, try checking if you have the garmin's tsrautostart.exe running on your background.

anyways, if you're really really concern with your battery consumption. just go download nokia's energy profiler and see what is the average consumption. from what i read on the net, on average it's about 0.05w - 0.07w. with tsrautostart.exe the average consumption is around 0.14w. this is double the usage already.

just install the energy profiler to see whats your average consumption. from there then you'll at least be able to find out what is causing the high energy consumption.


Added on August 7, 2009, 12:34 amok, so i downloaded Nokia Energy Profiler and did a few test to verify the actual power consumption and how long can the battery last.

Test 1:
To test what is the average power consumption WITHOUT tsrautostart.exe at background while phone is on standby.

Average Power consumption = 0.05w
Time before battery runs flat = 110 hours (while 1 bar down)

Test 2:
To test what is the average power consumption WITH tsrautostart.exe at background while phone is on standby.

Average Power consumption = 0.13w
Time before battery runs flat = 48 hours (while 1 bar down)


Conclusion:-
Due to the fact that my battery is not at 100%, so lets say if i were to add in another 12 hours to the results. that would mean 60 hours of standby time with tsrautostart.exe running and 122 hours of standby time without tsrautostart.exe running.

with backlight on, the power consumption can go as high as 0.35w. since we have to use our phone for calls, sms's, emails, etc. so lets deduct another 14 hours from the standby hours.

End result would be:
with tsrautostart.exe = +- 46 hours (2 days)
without tsrautostart.exe = +- 108 hours (4 days)





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post Aug 7 2009, 12:51 AM

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QUOTE(attahun @ Aug 6 2009, 10:51 PM)
mine was about half an hour or slightly more.. hmm.gif  hmm.gif depends on internet connection i think..

and i charge my phone everyday as it gets to 3 bar at the end of the day.. tongue.gif
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everyday ? soon ur battery will rosak shocking.gif
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post Aug 7 2009, 01:51 AM

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QUOTE(red-queen @ Aug 6 2009, 11:21 PM)
while i was free last night messing around with my phone before i went to bed. i found that tsrautostart.exe is running in my background via jbak taskman. so i killed it, charge my phone and went to bed.

unplug my phone charger and went to work at 10am this morning. use my phone like i usually do. now its 11.19pm, and my battery only dropped 1 bar. usually by this time of the day, my battery level is at least 50% used up.

so to those who think your battery is not lasting long enough, try checking if you have the garmin's tsrautostart.exe running on your background.

anyways, if you're really really concern with your battery consumption. just go download nokia's energy profiler and see what is the average consumption. from what i read on the net, on average it's about 0.05w - 0.07w. with tsrautostart.exe the average consumption is around 0.14w. this is double the usage already.

just install the energy profiler to see whats your average consumption. from there then you'll at least be able to find out what is causing the high energy consumption.


Added on August 7, 2009, 12:34 amok, so i downloaded Nokia Energy Profiler and did a few test to verify the actual power consumption and how long can the battery last.

Test 1:
To test what is the average power consumption WITHOUT tsrautostart.exe at background while phone is on standby.

Average Power consumption = 0.05w
Time before battery runs flat = 110 hours (while 1 bar down)

Test 2:
To test what is the average power consumption WITH tsrautostart.exe at background while phone is on standby.

Average Power consumption = 0.13w
Time before battery runs flat = 48 hours (while 1 bar down)
Conclusion:-
Due to the fact that my battery is not at 100%, so lets say if i were to add in another 12 hours to the results. that would mean 60 hours of standby time with tsrautostart.exe running and 122 hours of standby time without tsrautostart.exe running.

with backlight on, the power consumption can go as high as 0.35w. since we have to use our phone for calls, sms's, emails, etc. so lets deduct another 14 hours from the standby hours.

End result would be:
with tsrautostart.exe = +- 46 hours (2 days)
without tsrautostart.exe = +- 108 hours (4 days)
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Wat version of garmin r u currently using? Version 5.03 and above can disable from garmin it self lor.. My phone dont hav tsrautostart.exe running.. But i still get 1day and half.. Under very heavy usage tat is... On edge whole day long.. Using it as a modem.. For a good 1 to 2 hour daily... Muahaha.. 4 hour and half till battery flat if continuos using as modem..
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post Aug 7 2009, 02:03 AM

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QUOTE(xavi5567 @ Aug 7 2009, 01:51 AM)
Wat version of garmin r u currently using? Version 5.03 and above can disable from garmin it self lor.. My phone dont hav tsrautostart.exe running.. But i still get 1day and half.. Under very heavy usage tat is... On edge whole day long.. Using it as a modem.. For a good 1 to 2 hour daily... Muahaha.. 4 hour and half till battery flat if continuos using as modem..
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this is what i thought....and then i check properly on the internet again. version 5 of garmin as long as you start using garmin, then tsrautostart.exe will start running. you will have to kill the process manually after each time you finish using garmin. disabling on garmin is just to disable it from auto running. but the momeny if you start garmin, the tsrautostart.exe will start as well.

anyways, try installing the nokia energy profiler and check whats your average power consumption. if your average power consumption is low and your battery don't last, then maybe you have a faulty battery.

at least verify if your phone is actually using alot of power or it's the faulty battery.

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post Aug 7 2009, 02:24 AM

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QUOTE(red-queen @ Aug 7 2009, 02:03 AM)
this is what i thought....and then i check properly on the internet again. version 5 of garmin as long as you start using garmin, then tsrautostart.exe will start running. you will have to kill the process manually after each time you finish using garmin. disabling on garmin is just to disable it from auto running. but the momeny if you start garmin, the tsrautostart.exe will start as well.

anyways, try installing the nokia energy profiler and check whats your average power consumption. if your average power consumption is low and your battery don't last, then maybe you have a faulty battery.

at least verify if your phone is actually using alot of power or it's the faulty battery.
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Well, thanks for all the feedback bro, atleast there's some testify on the solution. So if this works than it may really solve E71 owner with Garmin installed.

I'm trying the "disable" function on garmin and see how it last. If it's still not much changes then i think the "killing" process is needed..

Opt 2 that can try out : Deleting the cardrunner is what i heard will "permanently" stop the tsrautostart.exe as it's the file that cause the .exe file to start.
Not sure true or not..as i'm still a 2 week new user..so am picking up on issues and delails.


Q : Any one know how to install theme? cause i download quite some theme but when i install using phone / PC suite with the SIS file, it said sign expired or cert not certifity...something like that..so how can i install new downloaded theme from the net?

Appreciate help from u guys. tx
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QUOTE(Chester77 @ Aug 7 2009, 02:24 AM)
Well, thanks for all the feedback bro, atleast there's some testify on the solution. So if this works than it may really solve E71 owner with Garmin installed.

I'm trying the "disable" function on garmin and see how it last. If it's still not much changes then i think the "killing" process is needed..

Opt 2 that can try out : Deleting the cardrunner is what i heard will "permanently" stop the tsrautostart.exe as it's the file that cause the .exe file to start.
Not sure true or not..as i'm still a 2 week new user..so am picking up on issues and delails.
Q : Any one know how to install theme? cause i download quite some theme but when i install using phone / PC suite with the SIS file, it said sign expired or cert not certifity...something like that..so how can i install new downloaded theme from the net?

Appreciate help from u guys. tx
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sign expired or cert not certifity..

Try change ur year date in ur phone.. say 2007... and then try to install it again..

Credit to xavi5567.. xD
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QUOTE(Chester77 @ Aug 7 2009, 02:24 AM)
Well, thanks for all the feedback bro, atleast there's some testify on the solution. So if this works than it may really solve E71 owner with Garmin installed.

I'm trying the "disable" function on garmin and see how it last. If it's still not much changes then i think the "killing" process is needed..

Opt 2 that can try out : Deleting the cardrunner is what i heard will "permanently" stop the tsrautostart.exe as it's the file that cause the .exe file to start.
Not sure true or not..as i'm still a 2 week new user..so am picking up on issues and delails.
Q : Any one know how to install theme? cause i download quite some theme but when i install using phone / PC suite with the SIS file, it said sign expired or cert not certifity...something like that..so how can i install new downloaded theme from the net?

Appreciate help from u guys. tx
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the disable function on garmin is just to stop the process from automatically starting by itself. it's the same as deleting the cardrunner file as earlier versions of garmin 5 does not have the disable function. doing this 2 steps only prevents tsrautostart.exe from automatically starting. but it does not prevent tsrautostart.exe from starting every time you use your garmin.

i've disabled the background process in garmin, i've deleted the cardrunner. whenever i start garmin, the tsrautostart.exe starts up as well. so when i finish using garmin, i'll have to use jbak taskman to kill the tsrautostart.exe

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QUOTE(red-queen @ Aug 7 2009, 09:31 AM)
the disable function on garmin is just to stop the process from automatically starting by itself. it's the same as deleting the cardrunner file as earlier versions of garmin 5 does not have the disable function. doing this 2 steps only prevents tsrautostart.exe from automatically starting. but it does not prevent tsrautostart.exe from starting every time you use your garmin.

i've disabled the background process in garmin, i've deleted the cardrunner. whenever i start garmin, the tsrautostart.exe starts up as well. so when i finish using garmin, i'll have to use jbak taskman to kill the tsrautostart.exe
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thanks for the input ! I just check my z71 and yep .. the tsrautostart.exe really started. and it consume .018 and after I stop it it reduce to 0.11 . which is very good consider I am running seven for my push mail . I received about 20-40 emails per day and reply about 3-10 emails a day.
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Guys, I unable to pair my E71 with my notebook. Use 0000 and 1234 as passcode but still fail. How to set the new passcode?
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QUOTE(anzhsb @ Aug 7 2009, 01:39 PM)
thanks for the input ! I just check my z71 and yep .. the tsrautostart.exe really started. and it consume .018 and after I stop it it reduce to 0.11 . which is very good consider I am running seven for my push mail . I received about  20-40 emails per day and reply about 3-10 emails a day.
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I'm glad to be of help. Now you'll realise how much better your battery will last. Had a very busy day today with lotsa calls and emails and sms's and browsing now with my phone. Down to 40%. This is my second day full day. So basically battery life is lasting one full day longer. I think with my usage, it'll be able to last another 1 day or slightly less which makes it to almost 3 days.

This is a great improvement from 1 day and a half.


Added on August 7, 2009, 8:56 pmIs there anyway to disable the 'Packet connection activated/deactivated' pop-up? getting kinda irritating that it pops up everytime I make a call

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QUOTE(red-queen @ Aug 7 2009, 08:30 PM)
I'm glad to be of help. Now you'll realise how much better your battery will last. Had a very busy day today with lotsa calls and emails and sms's and browsing now with my phone. Down to 40%. This is my second day full day. So basically battery life is lasting one full day longer. I think with my usage, it'll be able to last another 1 day or slightly less which makes it to almost 3 days.

This is a great improvement from 1 day and a half.


Added on August 7, 2009, 8:56 pmIs there anyway to disable the 'Packet connection activated/deactivated' pop-up? getting kinda irritating that it pops up everytime I make a call
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Yeah bro, it'll be so much of a HAPPY owner of E71 when u can have more bat power. rclxm9.gif and i seldom use garmin, so i think i can live with just the "disable" option laugh.gif

But i noticed 1 thing, in the energy profiler, if u go to setting, there's a view of yr phone battery power at Full bar..mine is 600 + mAh only, ? i thought nokia battery is 1,500 on full charge? cause my battery consumption is average 0.15W and with 600 + mAh i only get a 18+ Hrs...
hmmm...really bad luck or i got a faulty battery? just looking for feedback to clarify. Thanks thumbup.gif

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