Firstly please do not use the word bro with me... coz it seems that ur NOT..

Adoi bestnye abang kita berkempen... sesekali macam itu politician la... btw Brian, if u r finished with your election campaign hope that you can answer the question that I have asked just now...

Question 1:
eh baru aku teringat.... kalau ade buyer mesti ade deal/link to the sold Dvd Op kan... if have can you give us the link so that we can actually know that the deal is a real deal... IF u know what i mean..

So can you provide the link for the deal OR there is no such link at all??

Question 2:
Last.... I have a question... IF the SAME THING happen to you.... If i broke the TF that you want to sell during COD, How would you personally settle this??? What would you do??? How would personally feel about it??


This post has been edited by hamsterz: Apr 14 2009, 03:04 PM

bro madstone,

all do respect , especially u as a SAFETRADER and senior high post member .. u have my respect. But as a senior member , I feel that u do not respect a member or respect me as a normal person / human.

Like u say , u have yr rights wat ever u want to say / argue or do. Tat Im not trying to argue / deny. Same goes to everyone here. And also for myself , I have to defend myself. If u know me well enuff, im not the type of person, when I do something wrong I still try to cover or SWEET TALK like what u said.

Frankly , its sad to hear that u saying im TRYING to sweet talk out. I think I also highlighted that its up to u all to trust or not my sincerity and not trying to SWEET talk or BUY ppls heart out !


If u say yr officemate of bro hamster @ wan . then I think u shud have the courtesy to really understand my smses… I believe my sms is very clear enuff. If u dare to say it was harsh and very sickening arrogant msg. then pls publish it out like what 1 fellow did.

Im very confident that my sms clearly spoken nicely KINDLY courtesyly .. ( wat ever ly.. ) that I would like to solve this issue and wanting / hoping he cud give me some time to meet up and discuss this issue on how to solve it ! but yr fren did not even bother to reply or pickup my call ! maybe he got irritated or maybe he was bz . but I did kept sms him 2-3 days once and informed him about the situation.

And FYI !!!

I DO NOT AGREE , I never want to involve him to what mess I made. The deal between me and the ebayer has nothing to do with him. Yes that’s true . but I kept highlighted to him that, in order to get WIN WIN situation for all, I hope he cud spend just a 10 mins for me and him so that we cud discuss and work things out . my many solutions was :

- me meeting him up discuss on how much he wants me to compensate or how much I should pay, then I pay to him and get the OP
- then after getting the OP , I can post the item to the buyer asap, as I have received his money , and I have no intention to con his money . and its still pending for delivery. And the buyer clearly mentioned HE DO NOT MIND the broken part despite I have emailed him the picture hamster gave. Of coz with a different buying price ( which means after getting hamster OP , I have to post to him, and also refund a lil money to buyer for the compensation )
- im doing all this just to have a WIN WIN situation for every 1 , just trying to please hamster me and d ebay guy…. Is that wrong ?

Question 3:

If you and seller already agreed the price before COD, why do you want to nego some more...? is it a habit? if you wanna ask if it's wrong... YES!! IT IS WRONG!!!! do you even know what COD means?

Ini orang betul2 mau kelentong somemore laaa
aiyaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa

hamsterz already explain to me
when he asked u whether it really exist u & the ebay buyer, please post the link
we all want to see it, please
what's your username in eBay actually?

What's your cousin's name again who wanted u to buy TF for him/her

Please answer accordingly

hmmm, the OP matter aside, it seems whoulove rubs people the wrong way when buying stuff. sorry buddy, from the way i see it, it seems to happen too often to be an isolated case.

bargaining/negotiating is one thing when both come to an amicable agreement. but the thing is too many you've bought from has feelings of resentment. perhaps that should have been considered instead of getting a better value buy. unnecessary negotiations belittles and disrespects the seller, while not an outright crime, its somewhat annoying.

anyway, back to the OP i agree some financial compensation should be paid by whoulove. very simple matter of it was damaged during his handling.

BTW whoulove,
are you already bank-in hamsterz's RM20 for his Devastator u took earlier?

Bank-in d ka?

Solution:
You fishing paid for the initial price that is agreed BEFORE the toy broke + RM20.
TS give then give u the toy.
U then give the fishing ebayer the damp toy.

TS happy, ebayer happy, dun care whether u happy or not.

off topic:


back to topic:
yes brian... just pay for the damages, and case close.... even hamster doesnt want to sell to you anymore, pay him his RM20 devastator balance + damage cost you made .... end of story ... i dont think hamster wanna see your face again, it would be very bad situation later on ...

One more thing, IMHO, BAN HIM FOR GOOD
Why?
Read from the start

dats y i say my story mah. just to share. previous deal before the tf was better though.

this is the link if u want.

http://cgi.ebay.com.my/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?Vi...em=230332041833



Q2

i understand how u felt. i felt the pain and angry that u felt also , i think i do kept telling u that . but come think back hamster! if u are in my side, and u r just testing the item,, and sudenly it spoilt , is it fair to buyer ? im not buying a new item here , pls Correct the situation ! if we go shop and buy new things , we touch we patah it , ya we pay for it.

jsut let me try ask u a simple scenario ,

when u buy a 2nd hp from a seller , the seller claimed it was ok , but when u test on the spot, the phone has no reception or cant Turn ON after u placed yr simkad in !!???? so buyer that test the phone shud b FULLY blame on it ?

this is like a grey situation / chicken and egg situation, seller knws that item was ok and good. but buyer proved that the item was infact got problem ! now tell me frens , if u try the phone and the phone got problem , are u telling me that u WILL buy the phone , despite it was tested to prove that it was problem ???

hamster ,
im not trying to accuse u that u r selling a spoilt item. tats not what i want and plan to do. but , i really tested it and transform it nicely and properly. and from the way u see me transform ( without looking at manual ) u shud knw that i know how to transform it.

u r the 1 tat say , maybe da nasib mmg the ting wants to happen , or every item when reach a point it will broken , its like elastic limit stage. at a point wear tear any thing will patah , eventually maybe for this case it just happens that it was the time it patah... im not accusing yr things are worn out.

n u yrself SAID that u never transform the fig before. n u dono the condition. u bought till now u never transform it. if u tell me that u have transformed it before and everythings fine , then only i transform got problem maybe then i can say im fully to be blame., but u yrself said that the fig bought till now no one has transformed it before. how do u know it wont spoilt when after u buy it ???


i just want to know SHOULD I BE FULLY BLAME for it ???

u yrself even agreed for us to see how we cud work things out by sharing the lost and or sell me at a price that u think u wud agree.. but then u decline and yet im being blame for it ??

This fella really annoyyed me, seriously

Can u answer me this?
If you go to any toyshops & break any toy, can you just go running like that?
Of course you have to pay for the damage right?
same goes to hamsterz DVD OP no matter what he said or what you said yada yada yada
it's a common thing in collecting things

1 more thing,
If people break your toy infront of you, can you just let the person go away without paying anything?

*sigh*

bro part of yr story is true , but partly i have to say :


initially yes i may have offered too low somemore i am the one that broken it... but later after few days. i kept asking hamster that to come out and discuss see how much he wants , so taht i cud arrange and see how much is the losses i have to refund back to ebay winner. from there i cud judge see ok or not.

and i kept asking hamster but he doesnt want to bother me. infact i even offer near 150 as waht he WANTED for . but yet no reply from him...

Of course la he didn't want to answer u OR reply your SMS
BECAUSE YOU ANNOYED HIM

You broke his DVD OP infront of him
he kept the item very well, well preserved i could say
BUT when come to you, you broke it, broke the item he kept well so far

whoulove
If u honest at the beginning, something like this won't occur in the first place laaa

that scenario is incorrect. try dropping the handphone and then your simcard does'nt work while testing would have been a closer analogy.

You admit you are the one that broke it yet did not pay for it...

This post has been edited by JasonSky: Apr 14 2009, 04:17 PM

there, a confession ... so pay the damages laa... full price..

alan,

not thanking u , but appreciate yr feedback. like u say , loose joints are hard to see from picture. it can only judge by testing and feeling the actual item itself... of coz Fish to those FUSSY buyer , that 2nd must be tight . even new 1 also has the QC problem and joints might be loose. thats y i never realy kept complaining on the loose joints , and i never coz of his loose joint then ask for more and more discount ( i know i say all this , all of u especially madstone will say that im trying to cover myself , or sweet talk ... up to u all to say )

bout habuk bro... like i said... im not so particular and fussy till i cannot accept habuk. infact those with habuk , ill bring back and give them a good shower and clean up and touch up on the paint and clean with my towel....but i would appreciate if the seller cud inform the buyer in the begining if its really taht bad. instead like now straight pointing at me as if like its my fault to comment on the dust !

fren ,


which context did I SAY I DO NOT WANT TO PAY . infact i keep saying I WANT TO PAY ! and hamster doesnt agree ! and do not want to sell to me since he is already pissed with me


so waht shud i do ? FORCE him and put a knife and ask him to sell to me ?

ey man, listen, maybe in some cases its not 100% ur fault, but just keep in mind that ppl WILL get annoyed if u try to nego with unreasonable discounts. 5 - 10 bucks is cool. 50 ? c'monnn man, be reasonable + we already clearly stated on the sale thread regarding whuts included / toy condition, but ppl will let go the item nevertheless bcoz they dont wanna waste anymore time / effort meeting up with buyer like u. its not really bout the money, we can get n save money for the things we want, just dat the way yer making deals with ppl only. no need to know what i sold to u, but i did give u more than 50bucks discount from the price we agreed on AFTER UR NEGO ON COD. its ok, im cool with it. its in d past nways. g'luck with yer future deals tho.