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Common guys, let show them the power of liquid cooling

This post has been edited by Are_keem: Jul 28 2009, 07:02 PM

Tips to Improve Engine Performance

Minor mod (increase acceleration)
1. Remove air filter. (Penang people can find me, FOC)
2. Reset carburetor air-fuel setting. (Penang people can find me, FOC)
3. Set valve tapette to 10 IN and 15 OUT. - RM30 labour charge @ New Bee Hock motor, Penang.
4. Change to 15-40 with 415 chain. - RM100

Major mod
coming soon...


Tips to Improve Handling Performance
coming soon...


Sprocket Combination (Stock CDI)

acceleration + = increase by xx%
acceleration - = decrease by xx%

15-35 - 1st : 48kph, 2nd : 90kph, 3rd : 130kph, 4th : 180kph; acceleration - 10.0%
15-36 - 1st : 46kph, 2nd : 86kph, 3rd : 125kph, 4th : 175kph; acceleration - 7.8%
15-37 - 1st : 44kph, 2nd : 83kph, 3rd : 122kph, 4th : 169kph; acceleration - 5.1%
15-38 - 1st : 43kph, 2nd : 80kph, 3rd : 118kph, 4th : 160kph; acceleration - 2.6%

15-39 - 1st : 42kph, 2nd : 78kph, 3rd : 115kph, 4th : 155kph; acceleration no change

15-40 - 1st : 41kph, 2nd : 75kph, 3rd : 111kph, 4th : 151kph; acceleration + 2.6%
15-41 - 1st : 40kph, 2nd : 73kph, 3rd : 108kph, 4th : 148kph; acceleration + 5.1%
15-42 - 1st : 39kph, 2nd : 71kph, 3rd : 105kph, 4th : 144kph; acceleration + 7.8%
15-43 - 1st : 38kph, 2nd : 69kph, 3rd : 102kph, 4th : 140kph; acceleration + 10.0%

After changing racing CDI >> top speed for 4th gear can add about 10 - 20kph.

*Note* The above data is an estimation of potential top speed for each gear, and may vary from bike to bike.


Carburetor General Tuning Guideline:

A. Change the idle air-fuel mixture setting 1st.
B. If still not satisfied, change the needle position.
C. If none of the needle position is good, change the jettings.


A. Idle air-fuel mixture settings
1. Air screw set at about 2.5 turns for stock airflow. Modified exhaust + air filterless can use 2 turns.
2. Idle rpm increase a little more than normal.

B. Needle setting
1. There are 3 ticks on the needle jet.
2. The lowest tick will give us good FC, as it limits more petrol to flow from mainjet @ half throttle
3. The highest tick will give us bad FC, as it let more petrol flows from mainjet @ half throttle.

However, highest tick does not mean best acceleration. If too much petrol flows into the venturi, the mixture will become too rich. This will decrease the power at high rpm. So, try different needle clip position and feel which one has the best results.

C. Jet size setting
1. Change mainjet to #107.5 (stock #105)
2. Change pilotjet to #22.5 (stock #20). If there is no performance increase, then stick back to #20.
3. Change mainjet to #110 + pilotjet #22.5. <-- this should be a good pair.

Anything more than #110 mainjet will make the engine feels heavy, bcoz the mixture becomes too rich.


Disc Brake Tuning Meteorology

The theory covers the relationship between the total areas of the brake pots (Note, its area not count), brake pads, masterpump, the rigidity of the brake hose and the property of the brake pads. The point of improvement is to look for the limit of the system and upgrade it.

1. Single pot is less prone to uneven brake force compared to multiple pots when in case one of the pot jams.

2. Changing the brake rotor is a start. But if you do not see improvements, that means rotor is not the limitation, and you need to change other things to do a stopee (Nose brake).

3. Change brake hose to steel braided, so it is less likely to expand and eat up the brake budget. Try this, wrap ur hands around standard brake hose, and press the brake you will feel it expand. Anymore you press also won't increase braking performance.

4. Change to DOT5 brake oil (normal 1 can, but easily overheat. I go hill run for >1 hr, DOT5 is mandatory)

5. Change brake pads, I use Ferodo imported by Racing Boy. Ask for original ones, one set front about RM30~40. You can see more copper strands on the pads. Other good pads use metal strands so u can see silverly metal strands.

6. Must stiffen front fork absorber, and add a stabilizer bar. Use 15W-20 fork oil, make it about 25% stiffer than stock. 20W-50 fork oil is too stiff bcoz (the oil is too not lean enuf), the bound and rebound SUX, I feel like riding on a horse. The traction sux too, bcoz front tyre can hardly grip on the road when going through uneven road (esp penang road).

7. Use ABS device (about RM100) <-- optional

** many thanks to bro charge-n-go and bro alexei for the useful tips
stay tune for more tips

p/s : if anybody wanna share their modding tips too, you can PM me or just post in the thread, and I will update this post

This post has been edited by Are_keem: Jun 2 2009, 03:47 PM

can add my name in list? im using 135lc black n white ss i buy it on 3 may 2008.

here i am to support.

wah
v2 de
gratz
miss my old 135lc

that exhaust...
so far so good lor... ori spec change to Nob1 'ONLY' top speed 150km/h (on straight road long 1.5KM++)

My LC : Black Gold
ES
9 Mar 2009
Kelantan

This post has been edited by kinwei3250: May 16 2009, 09:29 AM

reporting...

add my name too!

wah lau eh, ONLY!
last time how fast you go?

whoooooooo V2!!!

make it 10 ba bro are_keem
add me into d list
check ur pm

hahaha.. your name already up there

guys, I've updated the list above.
if there's other left, kindly post here or just PM me

reporting in

radio_8888 | Selangor | SS - Black Orange | November 2008

wanna join too


maniacs | Selangor/klang | SS - Orange white | february 09

here i come

petaiman | peanang | SS - black gold | march 09

Uncle Cheang reporting

DragonK my top speed only around 140km/h
How about yours?

heu.... got ahm sp for sale....

only rm125.... still new... using only 1 week

cant tahan the noisy pomm pomm la....

halo....all!
im in here nw!

i am here in V2~!!:D currently my bike stock already. no nob1 anymore, aiming for other exhaust...

Please add me to the club!!!

jcliew | johor | SS - black | march 09

will post pics of my bike later on

can i knoe...carb 1st model n carb 2nd model is it same?...model n size?...

haha..thanks
but too bad i had an accident on monday..
me n my bike both "injured"...
anyone can gv suggestion which shop repair LC good at penang?

New Bee Hock Motor in Gelugor.

U tell the boss, one chinese guy on green LC with GIVI box recommend you one.

i can reach 130kmh oni same with ur edition i dunno y...

my bike engine...hv some noise like " ciut,ciut,ciut"...in fast...went i pulas trotle with neutral gear...anyone know wat happen or normal...coz i dont sure went the first time i ride this bike..ade ke xde bunyi ni...my meter just only 789KM...help meee...

1st post updated

Are_keem...mind add me in?

mine is Calvin|Penang|ESHC-White||May 2008

just wan refresh back my old LC

how much u buy d cover set??

err not sure
is my bro mod it..

i feels like riding a scooter after changing to stock exhaust since i am already getting used with nob1 sss b4....

Yesterday back to hometown got one JPJ road block at the other side of road. I just come near the JPJ officer and pull my throttle beside him..Preng~!! then cabooot~!! hahaha....

then tml got summon at ur mailbox
lol

Got 1 polis go to the motorbike shop.
Then saw my nob1 sss.

He ask me, bising tak. Then i said, bising oh, mau dengar?

He said: ok, dengar mcm mana?

After I vrroommmm a few times. He asked me:" mana beli? syiok betul bunyi tuh, i pun mau satu!"

FYI, tat police got a 28mm carb, a BRT CDI and removed airfilter, green LC like mine too. dont play play

Maybe he wants to make his bike faster so that he can tangkap more theif lah, haha...

Are_keem pls add me in ( bizzy l Penang l Black l Mar 2008), wa u guys all run to here liao i stil steam steam there hahahaha... Ei tis cuming Saturday who got go the USM 135LC Show??? Is there selling anything for LC???

hey guyz, i wan to mod my bike n my budget is rm500 i wan to change my cdi n exhaust pipe anyone know the price or got other suggestion for mod the 135lc i wan my motor hav high top speed

eat more money got la, hahaha


1) change to 150cc engine (57mm block) - RM150
2) take out air filter - free
3) change to a racing carburetor - RM300
4) change to sprocket 15-37 - RM100

That's about RM500. Should can reach up to 160kph easily.

polis also normal human like us mah,
for sure wanna mod his bike too
ask him to join you guys during TT session,
so incase there's roadblock you can make it through without any problems

hahaha, yalor.
well, i got a few rempit frens who knows polis well, polis will tell them when will have road block one. hahaha


btw dude, mind to help me post something in ur reserved post?

Here's the thing:

Tips to improve engine performance

Minor mod (increase acceleration)
1. Remove air filter. (Penang people can find me, FOC)
2. Reset carburetor air-fuel setting. (Penang people can find me, FOC)
3. Set valve tapette to 10 IN and 15 OUT. - RM30 labour charge @ New Bee Hock motor, Penang.
4. Change to 15-40 with 415 chain. - RM100

Major mod
coming soon...


Tips to improve handling performance
coming soon...

This post has been edited by charge-n-go: Mar 26 2009, 04:54 PM

haha.. if got 'kaki' then for sure no need to scare when rempit-ing

no problem dude, will update my post later.
if the article is fully completed, then tell me yea

charge, the thing is my top speed for now is oni 125kph i oso dunno y, u can help me...

This post has been edited by DragonK: Mar 26 2009, 05:36 PM

yalor..but that time the officer too busy with the big lorry he stopped yesterday. big lorry = bigger money lor...

yalor...u mention that, i remember saw a group of police riding lc135 at klang. dunno modded or not, but sure this bike also quite famous among police officer....

Hi guys, i am new here. Are_keem, mind to add me to the list?
I am using white/blue es, Kelantanese (but currently studying in Perak), bought it on May '08.

haha, it takes some time to become fully complete. thanks for the update


So what top speed do you want?
If you are in Penang, please come to the gathering on this Sunday.


yes, alot of them have 135LC. Last time when I went for hill run at 9am, always see them riding on hill. Now 6.45am I go ady, they still zzz-ing, hahaha.

kinwei3250, here's another kelantanese How old r u? Wonder if i know eu.
Saw ur macho bike, it's cool dude
U didn't runner-in b4 mod it?

hi LilCroSs, u kelantanese too...
i only 17 years old (chinese)
my hometown Wakaf Bharu
were ur hometown..

hey bro great tips there, i have a few questions tho,
i wonder if i did step 2 and 3
and
"Change to 15-40 with 415 chain." .... i forgot my sprocket what size d. do u remember?
and if i change to that sprocket and chain setting, will that decrese my top speed?

Never tot we r from the same kampong xD
Im ah kit, 19, live in sbj p.pekan, i got lots of fren frm kulim,
wonder ur from kulim too?
Studying in chung hwa/chung cheng?

im oso kulim guy n hav alot of frenz there im living at tmn angsana n now im staying at batu kawan after finish my spm2008

Hi DragonK, kulim tat i meant wasn't kulim, kedah, it's somewer in kelantan

if your sprocket set is still in standard condition, then it should be 15-39 with 428 chain.
and if you change rear sprocket anything above 39, then top speed will be affected.
the bigger the rear sprocket, then greater the acceleration but top speed will be decreased

ya, i know SBJ p.pekan
i also hav a few fren at kg kulim
i now studying at chung cheng
u also chung cheng before??

Haha, sorry dude, i can't remember your sprocket size ady. Its either you or jimmy is using 15-40 setting.

Anyway, don't worry about the top speed. Calvin using my 15-42, the foreman can reach 150kph top speed. Of course, he has a Kitti Xbox CDI, that's why can go this far.





are_keem, here's a list that you may put into the tuning tips:

sprocket combination (stock CDI)

15-35 - 1st : 48kph, 2nd : 90kph, 3rd : 130kph, 4th : 180kph; acceleration -10.0%
15-36 - 1st : 46kph, 2nd : 86kph, 3rd : 125kph, 4th : 175kph; acceleration - 7.8%
15-37 - 1st : 44kph, 2nd : 83kph, 3rd : 122kph, 4th : 169kph; acceleration - 5.1%
15-38 - 1st : 43kph, 2nd : 80kph, 3rd : 118kph, 4th : 160kph; acceleration - 2.6%

15-39 - 1st : 42kph, 2nd : 78kph, 3rd : 115kph, 4th : 155kph; acceleration no change

15-40 - 1st : 41kph, 2nd : 75kph, 3rd : 111kph, 4th : 151kph; acceleration + 2.6%
15-41 - 1st : 40kph, 2nd : 73kph, 3rd : 108kph, 4th : 148kph; acceleration + 5.1%
15-42 - 1st : 39kph, 2nd : 71kph, 3rd : 105kph, 4th : 144kph; acceleration + 7.8%
15-43 - 1st : 38kph, 2nd : 69kph, 3rd : 102kph, 4th : 140kph; acceleration +10.0%

after changing racing CDI >> top speed for 4th gear can add about 10 - 20kph.

* note * the above data is an estimation of potential top speed for each gear, and may vary from bike to bike.

This post has been edited by charge-n-go: Mar 27 2009, 10:17 AM

Im from chung hwa, u know choon sien or chai from kulim?
I think we dun know each other but u might know my fren

@charge_n_go
Ur results posted above on sprocket combination +/- same like mine for stock setting and 15-40 setting. My result for 15-40 setting at 3rd gear can reach 110kph only while on 4th gear can reach 160kph. but topspeed for sure depends on wind condition and riding distance. mostly for windy condition can only reach 140kph @ 4th gear...

chatting about sprocket setting, now im using rkm 420 chain 14-36, i still can reach 180kph top speed on the highway or trunk road.... it doesnt matter about windy day or long distance travel.... bcoz my std bike can reach 140kph in 700m in a few seconds...... what i have done to my bike is only used the fuch siklone 15-40w eo and 420 14-36 rkm chain... thats all....

This post has been edited by cusco57: Mar 27 2009, 03:23 PM

The 4th gear actually is the most fake one. Some people get very high top speed, some people get very low.

Theoretically, standard sprocket can reach only 150kph at 9000rpm, and the CDI cut is actually happening at about 9200rpm (which is 155kph). 10,000rpm will give us 160kph --> still achievable by over-reving a lil when the wind helps.

But, 180kph, the engine revs up to 12,000rpm. I was told by Hong Leong Yamaha that, some bike meter are lighter than another, sometimes got difference in top speed even both are set equally.

charge, mine 15-35, 1st gear 50kph, 2nd 90kph, 3rd 130kph, but 4th gear can go max at 145kph onli, y my top speed so weak?

This post has been edited by LilCroSs: Mar 27 2009, 07:50 PM

145 low?? U joking wif me ar??? My top 130 only ar... but of course my bike is stock... Does BM there sell sharp-tail??? How much is tat??? Tomolo motorshow who is going????? Plz no ppl meh???

[quote=charge-n-go,Mar 27 2009, 10:16 AM]
Haha, sorry dude, i can't remember your sprocket size ady. Its either you or jimmy is using 15-40 setting.[QUOTE]
if i m not mistaken...is jimmy who is using 15-40
[/QUOTE]Anyway, don't worry about the top speed. Calvin using my 15-42, the foreman can reach 150kph top speed. Of course, he has a Kitti Xbox CDI, that's why can go this far.[QUOTE]correction charge...i m using 12-34 sprocket...its bizzy who using 15-42


Anyway...anyone going to the moto show 2 molo?me and bizzy going....

What is sharp tail?


haha, sorry. 12-34 is almost same like 15-42. Each gear is short by 1-5kph, but the acceleration is +9.0%
because you have racing CDI, so each of your gear can be as long as 15-40.



Sure la. 180kph is the potential only, provided if the engine is powerful enough to go up to that speed.

Please note that:
When we change sprocket alone, we can never increase the top speed of the bike more than 20kph.

So LilCroSs, you may need to use a 60mm block + piston and a racing 28mm carb to unleash the potential to reach 180kph.

top speed vary from other machine 2 another machine. its also depends on the biker's weight. i am a big guy, for sure slower than u guys...

haha, but seriously, it is impossible for stock CDI to reach 180kph. 12,000rpm wei. Unless the CDI is unique (set to the wrong cutoff rpm) or the meter gear got problem. Yamaha Hong Leong told me, 1st generation seems faster, because the meter is 20% off from the 2nd generation.

How big are you raining0? more than 80kg?

charge, u recommended me to change to racing 28mm carb,
how much it costs for tat n wats the different between the racing 28mm carb and stock carb?
Btw, wat brand of cdi will u recommend me to change?
I didnt expect my bike can go to 180kph, juz expect it can go til 160kph.
Im not a big guy like rainingzero (joking)
All sifus, any comment? Please give me the price as well, thx

This post has been edited by LilCroSs: Mar 27 2009, 09:27 PM

28mm carb alone is not enough. Need to change 3 in one shot --> 28mm carb, 60mm block + piston (basically change to 166cc engine). Try not to change 28mm carb alone, because you will sacrifice low rpm power although high rpm power increased slightly.

If you change to 28mm carb + 60mm block + piston + racing CDI, can use back original 15-39 sprocket. Then you can get a lot more acceleration and easily reached 160kph in less than 1km (guaranteed).

Price, you need to research yourself from the shops around you. Different place different price.

Juz wan to know the market price for racing carb n cdi, afraid get cheated.
i heard my fren told me b4, LC change onli cdi, can increase top speed alot,
but dono wat brand of cdi is tat, any comment?
Izzit juz a change of cdi can relli incresase the top speed alot?

Racing 28mm carb is around RM300.
60mm block + piston around RM300.
Racing CDI is around RM400.

Racing CDI improve your bike acceleration as horsepower at all range rpm increased a little.


See the graph above, it's really a minor improvement.

charge, thanks for telling me, get to knoe abit bout tat le
Will consider whether to mod it, wanna ask u guys,
did u guys go for service ur bike frequently?
Changing exhaust will increase top speed too?

I just service the bike when needed.

Exhaust pipe performance varies. Many brands are designed for big engine block such as 60mm. Some even worse, got sound only but no power. The best one is Yoshimura pipe, but that cost more than RM1000.

I thought of displaying my bike at the MotoShow in USM, but my bike is 85% ready only, still got a little touch up to do, my Rear LED light is not even fitted yet & im working on saturday.. so i dont think i can make it..

for those who are going make sure take some photos and post it here Ty

I dont really know when it is needed, u guys didn't refer to the meter?
I usually service once 2500-3000km, how u guys think?

This post has been edited by LilCroSs: Mar 28 2009, 01:03 AM

So its basically the meter of 1st gen lighter??

yeah, more than 80kg la~
My height around 192cm.big guy on small bike..

oit2~ even big guy like me able to reach 160km...

i change my engine oil and oil filter every 3000 km. some recommend to change oil filter every 6k km, but me change terus la... this upcoming service gonna do service on my carb....

Tat PetaiMan lie 1!!! Dam him juz now me calvin and 1 fren went USM no ppl there then we ask the guard he said ''Mana ada motoshow???'' bcuz of him i din go for school activity *** le.... But juz now my bike reach 140 ^^ and calvin stuck at 130 hahahahaha.... Nick u r going to change ur tail light to led??? And charge the sharp-tail i mention is the 1 wif custom made LED light at the back de many PH and indonesia guys using dam nice!!


Attached image(s)

i oso see my meter de...i service every 3k km...change oil and filter...

Big guy on small bike cool dude Btw, dun take it serious ya, i was joking
Im so jealous of ur bike can go tat fast, urs LC is 1st batch?

i see i see. i just checked mine im using 15-41 thats why my top speed only 130

wow 15-42 can reach 150kph....mine is only 130 . yeah i think it must be the kitti xbox cdi thats doing the magic haha
so who else is going on sunday meet?

i usually service every 1000km. i very jaga my bike haha
but now i wanna service my bike every 1500km. I think it should be ok since some of my friends service it every 4000-5000km plus its burning a hole in my pocket cuz im using Motul E.O.

1000km change enjine oil is the best!! ^^ then change oil filter every 2000km it will keep ur enjine clean ^^ Ei guys i juz found a website which we can calculate almost anything for our bike http://www.wallaceracing.com/Calculators.htm i think it is veli useful especially for those who wan custom made their own pipe... Hope this help... Charge maybe u can calculate for me bcuz i dun noe anything about it hahahaha

This post has been edited by bizzy123: Mar 28 2009, 04:29 PM

lOl....maybe he just missed inform u guys?? IINM the venue might be at USM engineering campus, Nibong tebal, in conjunction with TEJA (Temasya Jaya). I miss my student life there. always competing at Cyber games TEJA in CSZ, of course my team was undefeated winner ...

lol....i took it serious already la...hahha...joking2~ thats why i am thinking of getting superbike now, but due to economic downturn, need to save money 1st...

u guys seriously change ur EO every 1k km?? u guys very rich la... every 3k km is sweet spot already. some done on 4-5k....

This post has been edited by rainingzero: Mar 28 2009, 05:27 PM

Spayz, u did change EO every 1000km? How long will it takes u 1000km?
For me it will relli burn my pocket Often using for a long journey?

rich dude spotted
my friend who always travel on bike (his bike was bought at Nov. 07),
the odometer already near 40k km after 1 and a half years.. really crazy guy
he said he change the EO each 1500km. but the engine still smooth,
due to good maintenance I think.

but I always change the EO and OF every 2000 or 3000km,
depends on which brand the EO is

Motul Full Syn 15w-40 can last how long?? And usually how much is it?? Anyone try b4?? I m using Total Racing, so far no problem 160++km more i wan change my EO d. Btw plz turn off the light!!! Yay


This post has been edited by bizzy123: Mar 28 2009, 08:43 PM

me only use Motul H-Tec 100 full syn for 3000km only. cannot tahan the knocking sound of the engine
I think it's not suitable for my machine. now using Selenia Linx 15W-50, just change it last week. so far so good

haha, i didnt see before this sharp tail.


jimmy and petaiman. I'll bring along my camera


1.6" diameter for standard LC block and piston. That website only can calculate size, but kenot do some design change. It is better to pull the L-shape curve a bit further, so that the exhaust gas can flows into the manifold easier.


Well, I change EO every 2500 - 3000km. Oil filter every 6000km. Engine ady hit 25,000km in 1.75 years.
The worst case is my tyre la. Every 4 - 5 months gotta change the rear tyre once, really burn a hole in my wallet !!!

hi...i m new here >.<...
can i noe how much is the price now for 135LC SS... and i m from penang

yeah i change my EO every 1K km untill now but im gonna extend it to 1.5K km. cuz i love my bike very much hahaha
what superbike u got in mind? i had in mind the Yamaha YZF R15 .

yeah i change it every 1K km . Uhmm i travel a very long distance everyday (except sat and sun)
From the northan tip of penang untill the south of penang EVERYDAY
to reach 1K km takes a month or 20-30 days hehe depends if weekends i still go ronda or not

haha not rich la bro. just sayang my bike . till today my bike still performs good!
how much is Motul H-Tec 100 full syn at ur place?
have u tried Motul Mineral 3000 20w 50 im using it atm. Its great
i have tried Elf Syn 10w 40 and it suck big time. dunno why my bike slow down cuz of the EO

cool. so its 4 ppl only la. hmmm i wish the others could come

I bought the H-Tec for rm42. but after using it for 2000kms, the result sucks!
never try any other Motul EO, except those H-Tec 100 and 3100 Semi Syn (well, that time pokai loh.. got no money to buy expensive EO )

Elf oil makes the clutch slips.
I still prefer my Royal Purple 10W-40.
Yes, only 4 people. I heard tomorrow Ching Bing, may have lots of cars. So we just becareful when riding and have fun taking photos hahaha.

haha i'll take ur word for it!

haha that is some good EO
well that explains why im getting poor exceleration with that EO
yeah a lot of cars at the cemetary area
i guess its gonna be a wet track too. its been raining at my place for hours
see u guys tommorow

This post has been edited by Spayz: Mar 29 2009, 12:14 AM