hey guys, the mpharm course offered in imu which twins with strathclyde. is the degree recognized in singapore ?

from what i checked they do not accept twinning. they only accept it if u do ur 4 years in strathclyde. is this true? because i also heard that if u can register in uk u should be accepted worldwide :/

hw's the quality of pharm lecturers in ucsi&aimst?

This interviews conducted only started this year so technically there's no seniors who are able to guide you.

They have interviews now? What's up. Last year, they took in some without straight As so the interview now is to justify such selection.

monash msia is no different from the other ipts.....they have to fill places, justify the programmes and salaries, and they have NO access to csp (commonwealth funding of students in oz) to choose the best students.....reality in msia is, availability of money is more important than ability of talents....nobody with less than atar 99 gets in csp medical places in clayton.....and they take in people with atar 93 in msia campus......

Erm not exactly. They dropped their requirements for this year intake so the interview is to make it up for it i guess. But i have heard rejection rates(by the uni) are quite high and there are still many places not filled up yet.

the problem is.. how many of those with ATAR 99 would sign up for Monash..like you said..it doesn't justify the costs and these people would probably have gone overseas to have a slightly better future compared to the current Malaysian health care setting...

This post has been edited by zstan: Jan 6 2012, 08:59 PM

ok thanks for the confirmation

btw the local monash pharmacy programme is not accredited yet rite? should that be a worry for new students joining this course? and is this degree recognized by the pharmacy board of victoria ? in their website they specified monash ( victorian school of pharmacy). does this mean we cant be registered in australia ?

This post has been edited by cutebubbles: Jan 6 2012, 10:23 PM

The pharmacy board just visited last month and they are very pleased. Monash should get full accreditation by the Board of Pharmacy once the first batch graduates without any problems.

About getting registered in Australia, Monash Sunway is working on it. Currently the Australian Pharmacy Council are trying to unite all the pharmacy boards in Australia so that you don't have to reapply licences or permits once you cross states to work.

Don't these high atar achievers apply to UK for med where choices are better, costs cheaper rather than oz? PR?

Some do.

csp refers to places for oz citizens and pr's, open places, the most competitive..........in addition, they have bonded places, both rural, and special needs......lower requirements for rural/special applicants....

it is relatively more difficult/troublesome to apply to uk med schools with an aussie atar....best still to do a levels if the intention is to go to uk....

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Added on January 6, 2012, 11:55 pmutas coe are out.....see the med student thread.....

and results from monash as well, one way or another.....

This post has been edited by limeuu: Jan 6 2012, 11:55 PM

Yes UTAS Coe received.

This post has been edited by podrunner: Jan 7 2012, 12:21 PM

[quote=jerk,Nov 28 2011, 06:29 PM]
@spharm1

i Let’s echo jerk, be objective

About qualified lecturer-> A lecturer should be an expert in the field he lectures but not necessary a registered pharmacist. While being a registered pharmacist can be an added advantage to the individual if he happens to be a pharmacy lecturer
But being a registered pharmacist (used to work as a pharmacist for at least a year and …) not necessary equal to a good lecturer if he does not put in his effort into lecturing.
e.g. a registered pharmacist =/= a good statistic lecturer for pharmacy students

“the rest from India”
Unfortunately, in Malaysia, at least for this few years, this phenomenon is not unique to the particular college you mentioned

“we learn topic called pharmacoinformatics…... she spent time talking how to use word, excel, internet blah blah. not pharmacy.”
again, in Malaysia, this phenomenon is not unique to the particular college you mentioned, this happen even in X university

“……statistic and dont know why”
Haha, do not choose pharmacy because you want to run away from maths (numbers)
if you choose pharmacy as your profession, you will find statistics useful (you still have to deal with number) and it is as important as chemistry


If you choose to be a pharmacist, work hard.

This post has been edited by coldyrat1234: Jan 8 2012, 06:31 AM

Some interesting points.

Student / staff ratio is indeed important. In fact it has become quite an important indicator of the overall ability of an institution to effectively deliver a particular program. The Malaysian pharmacy board and the MQA both specify a minimum ratio. Teaching is not easy, considering the amount of preparation time that goes into a teaching session. Thus when staff are faced with a situation where they have a workload of around 30 hours a week (which is typical for private colleges), you are not talking about quality. Even with the best staff in the world, this situation is not good for staff or students.

With regard to qualifications, I think the emphasis is more on experience, rather than out-and-out qualifications. During my time in Malaysia, I have worked with young phD graduates straight out of University and colleagues with significant practical experience, the difference has always been clear.

In addition, pharmacist qualified lecturers add an extra element with regard to delivery of lectures and classes. Why else does the Malaysian pharmacy board require 80% of teaching staff to be registered pharmacists. A situation where Dosage Form Design (pharmaceutics) is taught by non pharmacists is not an ideal.

At a first year level, pharmacoinformatics refers to the information sources available to pharmacists and how effectively these can be utilized. Clinical trials come much later, at years three or four.

Yes indeed Pharmacy students and Pharmacists need to be proficient in maths, however teaching pure mathematics and statistics just to fill in lecture time, and without any particular context is again, not ideal. You mention "Henderson–Hasselbalch equation, pka, Gibbs free energy, molar, molality" etc. All these have a context, Dosage form design. This has become a very important issue for many UK pharmacy schools, where subjects must be taught with direct relevance to pharmacy.

This post has been edited by pharmy: Jan 19 2012, 02:04 AM

Hey Guys,

How are you? I am newbie here..

I want to ask something from here. Hope I'll find something.

I just got my diploma in pharmacy. Planning to pursue in BPharm. I want to do it locally, but my cgpa is not enough to continue BPharm in Malaysia. Actually, I already got the offer from University of South Australia. It's unconditional offer.

I went to MARA asking whether they got any sponsorship which I can apply, but unfortunately they said that MARA didnt sponsor to do Pharmacy in oversea anymore. It is very sad when u already have the offer, but cant do anything about it.

I am not rich people. I want to know if there are any NGO or anything to sponsor or giving loan for education. I heard that JPA do giving scholarship. But only after 2nd/3rd year. I am planning to go for Indonesia, since it will be much cheaper than Australia.

Hope to receive help from you guys.

Thank you people.

p/s: Happy Chinese New Year.

Why don't you study locally? Since you said you're not rich, might as well aim for public universities via STPM/matrik...

Public universities & IPTS need cgpa 3.8 & above. I only got 3.68 for my diploma. That is the problem why I dont apply locally. Even my senior got 3.75 not accepted to study in UiTM.

This post has been edited by knowledge_seeker: Jan 20 2012, 02:19 PM

Hmm, I thought public universities only accept stpm/matrik, and diploma is not recognized by most unis.

Yerp2..most universities dont accept diploma..but uitm & IPTS do recognized diploma..