clawhammer jaz wanted a perfect no need service and repair for 100 years car. haha.. gundam is good for u. if u still need tyre, u can try the one at Devastator. they are all big machine too. maybe can fit gundam

oh wait..maybe u can take on scavanger? cool man~



This post has been edited by ridox_orimabu: Mar 17 2009, 08:29 PM

What matters is the reality. I don't mind if you say I'm a loser or whatever as long as you're happy with but it doesn't change who you are or who am I in the reality. Certainly there needs to be a bunch of morons to balance up smart people Thanks for being one of them. Proton is bad so lets face the fact. Why do you have to deny and defend a crap? LOL.


I think people with terrible English like you would spoil the overall forum quality and not just this topic. As I've said, if you don't like it then don't read or shut up If you have nothing constructive to post then don't do anything. What's the point of you adding remarks which doesn't seem to show you're of any better?

You have to understand that everyone is free to say what they want. If I have a choice then I'll definitely leave Malaysia, no doubts about it You think I choose to be born in this country? That's also the reason why our country is unable to retain many smart and intelligent people. Look at our doctors, scientist, etc which ends up serving other countries thanks to policy "you tak suka, you keluar dari Malaysia". Remember that smart and intelligent people would not be worried to leave but only the dumb remains (people like yourself having such mentality).

If you think it's worth it then go ahead and get the car. You don't have to convince or reason to me what makes you buy it because I couldn't care less. The reason why Malaysia is difficult to develop is because many of their citizens are still backwards in mentality. Well, go ahead because it's your life Like you said, experiment and we'll see where Malaysia is in another few decades.

Another person that has poor command of English. In what sense do you conclude that's what I meant? As I've mentioned, there are always shallow minded people in the country so there's a limit on how far Malaysia can develop. You just proved it - congratulations. What else? Come on, amuse me.

This post has been edited by clawhammer: Mar 17 2009, 08:37 PM

i think majority thinks this car is a good buy.

and its nothing i want to convince you off. Just that remember, you are stuck here as well

anyway if you could not care less, why are u in this thread again? LOL! i think you are just confusing yourself bro.


Btw, i'm still not sure which jap car are u talking about by adding 10k more? gran livina?

As I say, everyone is entitled for their own opinion. Why am I here is just the same reason why you're here. We are participants of this forum and we come to share our views. I don't slam you for sharing what you believe is a good buy I'm just saying my view that Proton is terrible and this Exora is just as bad. The price tag is overly priced for a local made car and they have a Campro CPS which can be found on other smaller cars which they used.

You can see for yourself how many individuals in this thread that has replied would have the following issues:
(a) Does not have common sense and unable to understand the need for free and open expression of what someone thinks about something.
(b) Terrible command of English and low education level.

They defend Proton is good but sometimes you see them posting otherwise or curse their own Proton cars That's what I call total contradiction.

what english got to do with Exora anyway? lol. totally out of the topic. yeah i know mine is too, but at least i'm not so serious. n seriously dude, why u keep on posting english is bad n bla bla bla while this is Proton Exora thread?
are u nuts?

Because you're being the nut to wrongly imply what I'm trying to say Because many people don't understand the message being put across maybe they find it hard to understand what's being posted. I'd appreciate if you stay within the topic because that's what I'm trying to do as well.

This post has been edited by clawhammer: Mar 17 2009, 09:06 PM

Hey dude,
Can I make some comment on your statement?
Based on your comments, I would like assume that
a) You think that Proton's car are overpriced? I agree
b) You think that oversea cars including Hyundai are better than Proton? I agree with that, but I do not think Hyundai is much more better than Proton since I had read some review about their cars after maybe 5-6 years of time.

Is just some assumption I made. Chill dude.
Who doesn't want to drive a Honda City if given a Proton BLM's price? As a BLM driver does not made me a Proton supporter.
Do you think I willing to choose local made cars if I was given the choice to choose?
In UK, if you have about RM 200k, you can purchase a Porshe, but we are in a RM 90k for a new Honda City country. We have to deal with the reality. With a budget of RM 40k, we can only own a BLM. Is not your fault or anybody's fault to make us deal in this situation but you have to know this is the government's policy.( I would to make this clear that I am not standing at any political side in this statement)

If you think leaving this country would satisfy you, then please go ahead. You think I don't want to leave also, I just cannot afford.

So dude, this is thread regarding the reviews of this mpv. Out of nowhere, you came out bashing Proton without knowing this mpv's quality. It maybe a successful or a failure to Proton in the future but you will have to know that this RM70k ++ is consider very expensive if you compare to oversea's market but here in this country, it maybe a value buy.
Got what I meant?
Let's make this clear again, I am standing at the neutral side, not siding any local or overseas cars but I am just saying what can you get with a budget of RM 70k++ in this market

evyone undertand dude. jaz that ur too f***ing ego that evyone is piss now.

That's precisely what I'm trying to say People buy Proton because they don't have a choice. If the cars are fairly taxed, how many would still prefer Proton? I believe those smart clowns that defended Proton in this thread would also end up buying a foreign make.

I'm trying to send the message that despite being lower taxed, Proton should sell their cars are a much reasonable price tag to Malaysians. Do you not agree at this point? If they want to sell at RM70K+ then make sure they are making quality cars (MPV). What are we having now? The MPV is not feature packed and can the engine really carry 7 people around? There are easily a few main concerns but people are not getting the point apparently.

Let's face the fact and if Proton is not good enough for now then they are not good enough. There's no need to defend or give excuses. Don't try to be a hero when we're not because we won't save the day but just making ourselves look stupid.

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Added on March 17, 2009, 9:18 pmI'm not an egoistic person and I only do so to morons If you think you're one of them then you would have felt so. I will have my utmost respect even for the poor, sick or disabled. At the first place, there's no need for you to make that stupid comment that isn't helpful nor show you're any smarter than the rest. What's the point?

This post has been edited by clawhammer: Mar 17 2009, 09:23 PM

dude, i've been thinking. are u pro perodua? lol.

yeah, evyone agree proton sux. but there are too that still put hope in proton. no one is trying to be a hero here. they jaz believe someday it might happen.Someday Proton will be recognize by others. n Proton is still the most affordable product in its range. Proton Exora is a bit expensive, but if its good, then i'll be happy about it too. U too say Proton is not that good for now, meaning u too believe some day it will. Right?

you know who to blame for the stupid car tax structure in the country .

Ur sentence is twisted. i dunno but u are jaz so full of urself.

This post has been edited by ridox_orimabu: Mar 17 2009, 09:27 PM

Ok, now you're saying everyone agrees Proton sucks Why didn't you agree to what I've mentioned earlier then? It's true that they suck so we admit our mistakes and try to improve. Why do we have to give excuses? I would be just as happy to own a Proton someday if the quality is acceptable and if they make good cars but for now, I just don't feel it's fair for this MPV to be sold at RM70K+ with what is given. That's my personal point of view.

Dude, its not that i don't agree at all ur sentences. It's jaz that ur comment is more to like bashing instead of giving advise to improve. I couldn't agree to that now would i?

This post has been edited by ridox_orimabu: Mar 17 2009, 09:31 PM

Maybe that's just a perception issue because these are all text with no facial expression My point is still the same - the MPV is overpriced and the quality of Proton is not on par for now. We'll wait for the real car to come out and see what the owners would have to say.

I hope I am wrong too

Its overprice because Proton dealer stays with the same vendor that still deals with them for the past 30 years. Unless you change it, then it will become a bit inexpensive. This is what i know from political people in Petronas.

dude, I am being neutral here to tell you that you know I know everybody knows that it is impossible to fairly taxed over the cars. It is totally against their will.

So as a conclusion, if Proton stands, your dream will never come true dude.

You are giving me a feeling of no matter how hard Proton work to come out with a better car, you will assume it is a piece of overpriced local made junk.
Proton really improve not say very much overall but at least there are some improvements if you compare to the Wira and Waja era. You will accept the fact that no matter how hard you complaint. You are not in the position to change this situation. If I were you, I will stand aside to see how they progress instead of bashing them in the forum. No point of doing that, success or failure in the future might just prove your comment. Chill. I was mumbling like you last time but I don't think that is the solution. Since you hate them so much, I guess you wouldn't buy their car. So, give them a chance and sit down just watch. To you, no lost right?

i bet he still gonna fight with superb English that we never even heard before or understand. oopps.

well you are indeed wrong, just wait lah..RM76k is a good price already for a MPV..

is there anywhere in my post where i am stating that i am defending a particular brand?
its just your assumption, no?


for a supposedly "smart" person like you, jumping to a conclusion that fast make u look like, shall i say a fool?
so where does that put you, in the moron part of the population or the smart part of the population?

earlier u say u dont drive a proton, but lets face it, this is the internet, i can have 10 ferarris in my house, no?


and again, where in my initial post that shows i am defending this brand?

all i did mention was, please look back, i am lazy to reply the same thing again and again.