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botterjr
post Mar 25 2014, 11:51 AM

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QUOTE(hoiho @ Mar 25 2014, 12:31 AM)
hi. it's not recommended for a newbie to join this hike, else you won't be enjoying. there is no nice view at the peak. better is to do datuk prior to this.

let me explain a little about the terrain. from starting point to gunung gap peak, you have to go through steep and slippery bamboo trail. i think this is the tough part with fallen bamboo leaves and not much tree for you to hold to. same tough effort required while coming down coz it's too slippery. it's better to have a hiking pole with you. from gap to ulu semangkok, the trail is nice with ups and downs. and lastly you have to cross the gap from gap to ulu semangkok.

hiking is a journey itself. you can progress slowly, don't have to rush. the mountain is always there.
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QUOTE(aidono @ Mar 25 2014, 12:45 AM)
+1 on the description of the trail but -1 on the view.

The bamboo session slippery session only happened for the first 10 minutes of the hike. Another 10 still passing through the bamboo before the trail is wide and clear and assume another 25 to reach GAP. You can also add on that there is a fork junction when exiting the bamboo trail and take note not to exit that fork which is located on your left smile.gif.

Did you try camp at Ulu Semangkuk peak to see the view? I guess most did daypack because there is no water source here. Little to know that the trail beyong the Ulu Semangkuk peak (head straight) will eventually lead you to smaller peaks.

Even if day pack, you should still see the hotels located in Fraser's Hill from the peak's entrance - right turn where left being the peak which is mark with a beirut.
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Wow, thanks for the effort and clear description thumbup.gif

QUOTE(aidono @ Mar 25 2014, 12:47 AM)
If you really want to learn to hike, do let me know and I will try to arrange my time to lead you. Will only be free after May since I am busy with certain issues at work.
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Sure thing! Will keep you posted after May. Maybe some basic hiking for the mean time and preparation (proper gears and all)

QUOTE(demolationz @ Mar 25 2014, 01:13 AM)
Where do you live actually ?  hmm.gif
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I happen to be from Subang Jaya.


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post Mar 25 2014, 11:55 AM

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QUOTE(brotan @ Mar 25 2014, 11:27 AM)
Hi all,

planning a weekend camping for my family (2 adults, 2 kids). Been going through this thread, need further advice

Below are some of my requirements

1) Near waterfall area
2) within 1.5h drive from PJ
3) Relatively safe
4) Able to setup your own tent
5) can set your own fire to bbq
6) can fishing is a bonus
7) no long hiking needed

looking at past post, i shortlist the below place that meet most of the requirements

1) Ulu Pangsoon
2) sungai congkak
3) Chilling Waterfall

which of the 3 is your 1st priority if you have a choice?

any other good recommendation?
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Recommend Chilling due to fish sanctuary..so alot of fishes..n large area for tent..clean..but need to hiking around 15 mnutes to the waterfall..but the waterfall sometimes are not very tidy due to unresposible human that leave rubbish behind..but the river at the entrance is clean n full of fishes..can't fishing due to it's sanctuary..
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post Mar 25 2014, 01:30 PM

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QUOTE(brotan @ Mar 25 2014, 12:27 PM)
Hi all,

planning a weekend camping for my family (2 adults, 2 kids). Been going through this thread, need further advice

Below are some of my requirements

1) Near waterfall area
2) within 1.5h drive from PJ
3) Relatively safe
4) Able to setup your own tent
5) can set your own fire to bbq
6) can fishing is a bonus
7) no long hiking needed

looking at past post, i shortlist the below place that meet most of the requirements

1) Ulu Pangsoon
2) sungai congkak
3) Chilling Waterfall

which of the 3 is your 1st priority if you have a choice?

any other good recommendation?
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Suddenly my mind is jam with f*cking workload and I couldn't think of any place to recommend but my piece of advice for all the location which you have listed below.

As I am not certain of the age of your kids, it could be one of the factor I would not advice you to go.

Location 1 - Ulu Pangsoon
I believe you are referring to the Lolo campsite. About 1 hour drive from Cheras Batu 9 towards Batu 18. During weekend this place could be pack with campers near to the waterfall. You might find it a little difficult to get a good camping place if you are to go in late. There are certain confusion on the route to Lolo campsite when it come to the number of fork roads if you have never been there before. No problem of doing your own BBQ but no fishes for you unfortunately. It is about 2 hours trek in from the main entrance and shower facility provided near the carpark.

Location 2 - Sg Congkak
On the same way to Pangsoon but end earlier. Very small carpark that could fit around 30-50 cars maximum. Gate will be open by the guards around 7.30-8 AM if I am not mistaken. Plenty of place you to pitch your tent and it should be safe with the number of people there. Trekking are not required most of the time as most will shower by the stream unless you want to hike up slightly higher for example Gunung Chenuang in the same area.

Location 3- Sg Chiling
Location located before the entry point to Frasers Hill. About 0.5 hour from KKB township. Camping and entrance fee will required to pay around RM3-5 per person if not mistaken. Very safe to camp here but I am not sure whether you are allow to do BBQ here since it is a sanctuary. To trek to the waterfall will take up to around 1-1.5 hour. The problem you might face during the hike is there are few river crossing and it might be difficult to do the last river crossing en route to the waterfall if you are beginner. As it is a fish sanctuary, fishing is obviously prohibited.

You could me ask me more details if you need answer.
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post Mar 25 2014, 01:32 PM

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QUOTE(botterjr @ Mar 25 2014, 12:51 PM)
Wow, thanks for the effort and clear description  thumbup.gif
Sure thing! Will keep you posted after May. Maybe some basic hiking for the mean time and preparation (proper gears and all)
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No problem as we are here to discuss with each other about the trail and condition.

For beginner, all you need is very simple. A good pair of shoes and your determination to complete the hike. That's all.

Invest when you are really into it. Those can buy later.
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post Mar 25 2014, 02:15 PM

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QUOTE(aidono @ Mar 25 2014, 01:30 PM)
Suddenly my mind is jam with f*cking workload and I couldn't think of any place to recommend but my piece of advice for all the location which you have listed below.

As I am not certain of the age of your kids, it could be one of the factor I would not advice you to go.

Location 1 - Ulu Pangsoon
I believe you are referring to the Lolo campsite. About 1 hour drive from Cheras Batu 9 towards Batu 18. During weekend this place could be pack with campers near to the waterfall. You might find it a little difficult to get a good camping place if you are to go in late. There are certain confusion on the route to Lolo campsite when it come to the number of fork roads if you have never been there before. No problem of doing your own BBQ but no fishes for you unfortunately. It is about 2 hours trek in from the main entrance and shower facility provided near the carpark.

Location 2 - Sg Congkak
On the same way to Pangsoon but end earlier. Very small carpark that could fit around 30-50 cars maximum. Gate will be open by the guards around 7.30-8 AM if I am not mistaken. Plenty of place you to pitch your tent and it should be safe with the number of people there. Trekking are not required most of the time as most will shower by the stream unless you want to hike up slightly higher for example Gunung Chenuang in the same area.

Location 3- Sg Chiling
Location located before the entry point to Frasers Hill. About 0.5 hour from KKB township. Camping and entrance fee will required to pay around RM3-5 per person if not mistaken. Very safe to camp here but I am not sure whether you are allow to do BBQ here since it is a sanctuary. To trek to the waterfall will take up to around 1-1.5 hour. The problem you might face during the hike is there are few river crossing and it might be difficult to do the last river crossing en route to the waterfall if you are beginner. As it is a fish sanctuary, fishing is obviously prohibited.

You could me ask me more details if you need answer.
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thanks bro for your inputs. very informative.

planning my first trip to sg congkak this weekend

btw, also plan monthly trip for camping, so most likely will visit other sites icon_rolleyes.gif

btw, for Ulu Pangsoon, is there a booking system or 1st come 1st serve basis?

This post has been edited by brotan: Mar 25 2014, 02:16 PM
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post Mar 25 2014, 02:15 PM

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Training for Vietnam mountain marathon.. that's why my hike become sort of like a little trail running in the end..

Will climb Mt Fansipan after Vietnam Mountain Marathon, just doubtful if I still have the strength to do it tho..
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post Mar 25 2014, 02:43 PM

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QUOTE(brotan @ Mar 25 2014, 03:15 PM)
thanks bro for your inputs. very informative.

planning my first trip to sg congkak this weekend

btw, also plan monthly trip for camping, so most likely will visit other sites  icon_rolleyes.gif

btw, for Ulu Pangsoon, is there a booking system or 1st come 1st serve basis?
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Ulu Pangsoon no booking system. More like a first come first serve basis.

Near Batu 10 towards the Semenyih Dam (old trunk road to Jelebu if make a left turn), there is another easy trek called Tekala Falls.

I have never been there before but you could give it a try.
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QUOTE(Sky.Live @ Mar 25 2014, 03:15 PM)
Training for Vietnam mountain marathon..  that's why my hike become sort of like a little trail running in the end..

Will climb Mt Fansipan after Vietnam Mountain Marathon, just doubtful if I still have the strength to do it tho..
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If you hiked KK before then FPS should not be a problem for you. Rinjani is different story thou biggrin.gif
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QUOTE(aidono @ Mar 25 2014, 02:43 PM)
Ulu Pangsoon no booking system. More like a first come first serve basis.

Near Batu 10 towards the Semenyih Dam (old trunk road to Jelebu if make a left turn), there is another easy trek called Tekala Falls.

I have never been there before but you could give it a try.
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thanks bro. will try in possible next trip
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post Mar 25 2014, 03:22 PM

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QUOTE(aidono @ Mar 25 2014, 02:44 PM)
If you hiked KK before then FPS should not be a problem for you. Rinjani is different story thou biggrin.gif
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well after running 42k in the mountains.. even go up stairs also must think twice
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QUOTE(brotan @ Mar 25 2014, 11:27 AM)
Hi all,

planning a weekend camping for my family (2 adults, 2 kids). Been going through this thread, need further advice

Below are some of my requirements

1) Near waterfall area
2) within 1.5h drive from PJ
3) Relatively safe
4) Able to setup your own tent
5) can set your own fire to bbq
6) can fishing is a bonus
7) no long hiking needed

looking at past post, i shortlist the below place that meet most of the requirements

1) Ulu Pangsoon
2) sungai congkak
3) Chilling Waterfall

which of the 3 is your 1st priority if you have a choice?

any other good recommendation?
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Before Chilling got waterfall. At Kg. Pertak entrance to Bukit Kutu. Less people there.
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post Mar 25 2014, 06:03 PM

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QUOTE(demolationz @ Mar 25 2014, 05:59 PM)
Before Chilling got waterfall. At Kg. Pertak entrance to Bukit Kutu. Less people there.
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A lot of people there but there are recent incidents where campers car got break into and not encourage people to park near the first bridge. Some blame the orang asli but I am not certain about that.

There are a few waterfalls there. I did explore until the 5 or 6 river crossing (normally you cross 3 before keeping left to Kutu) before but not knowing what is that waterfall name about.

There are popular falls which required you to passby orang asli camp site which they charged RM10 per pax if I am not mistaken before going a few cascade waterfall before reaching a fork. Turn right to Medang waterfall and head straight to Makau waterfall.

There is also an old route to Gunung Rajah but long time never been used.

What else could you share smile.gif

Oh yeah, forget to tell you never camp near the orang asli area where there is a small island near towards the bridge. Understand that place could get flood if water rises and even scarier - a crocodile is there XD
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post Mar 25 2014, 09:02 PM

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QUOTE(aidono @ Mar 25 2014, 01:32 PM)
No problem as we are here to discuss with each other about the trail and condition.

For beginner, all you need is very simple. A good pair of shoes and your determination to complete the hike. That's all.

Invest when you are really into it. Those can buy later.
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Noted. Thanks bro.
Wow, you are super helpful la. Haha.
Not to mention walking hiking trail map gps encyclopedia.....

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QUOTE(This World is Weird @ Mar 25 2014, 09:46 PM)
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There is a thread for Kinabalu

Please refer to https://forum.lowyat.net/topic/336446
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QUOTE(botterjr @ Mar 25 2014, 10:02 PM)
Noted. Thanks bro.
Wow, you are super helpful la. Haha.
Not to mention walking hiking trail map gps encyclopedia.....
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There are still lots of mountain that I have yet to explore.

This weekend I am free and if you want to try out hiking in Broga Hill do let me know the soonest.

You could bring your friends along if you want since it is an easy hill.
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Broga is Mosquito heaven during raining season.. also magnet to crowds..
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QUOTE(aidono @ Mar 25 2014, 02:44 PM)
If you hiked KK before then FPS should not be a problem for you. Rinjani is different story thou biggrin.gif
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pls pls share more about Rinjani. how to train for it and what to prepare? going there in july icon_idea.gif
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QUOTE(Sky.Live @ Mar 26 2014, 12:10 AM)
Broga is Mosquito heaven during raining season.. also magnet to crowds..
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Every hill or mountain also got insects bite. Just see whether lucky or not only.

Yeah, it is a crowded hill but it is the best place to train new comers who are into hiking. Unless I lead to Ampang Hill smile.gif
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QUOTE(hoiho @ Mar 26 2014, 12:30 AM)
pls pls share more about Rinjani. how to train for it and what to prepare? going there in july  icon_idea.gif
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Share with me your itinerary route. Which is your first entry point? Sembalun or Senaru?

How many days of hike? Will you spend the second night near the lake or crater?

After hike got proceed to the waterfall?

Lots of question you can asked me about mountains especially those I had been before biggrin.gif

From there I could advice you what you need to do.

Regardless which route you used - the final to climb to the summit - JUST BE PREPARE! It will be one of your toughest hike I ensure you.

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