lol. well said. dell is considered international and well known. besides that. it can be trusted.

This post has been edited by vinothen: Mar 4 2009, 10:28 PM

Mind you, I'm listing true facts here. And no, I'm not those "lowyat ah beng". I can also say that I got a Dell, and I got 50 dead pixels on it bro, you got a lousy Viewsonic? Well, I feel very, very sorry for you. Check my successful tradelist, and look at the number of Viewsonics I've sold.

PM the fellas who bought it, and they'll tell you that Viewsonic rawks. Anyway, the Viewsonics all come with a 3-Year warranty, and comparatively it's cheaper too. Furthermore, whoever buys from me get FREE HDMI cables - the good quality ones of course.

P.S. I didn't know I was rude and screamy.

No offence bro but let me share with you what I think.

DELL S2409W and Viewsonic VX2433wm will look the same because both has same spec. Both TN panel, both has a typical contrast ratio of 1000:1 (forget about dynamic contrast ratio), brightness of 300 cd/m2, viewing angle are the same & response time of Viewsonic is slightly lower. Of course Viewsonic comes with integrated speakers as well.

IMHO contrast ratio is the most important when selecting any LCD. You can forget about response time because there aren't any standard in measuring it. Manufacture can say 1ms or 0ms and there's no way we can measure it accurately. Even my old 16ms S-IPS panel 2007WFP is ghosting free, even with fast paced game.

So, the Viewsonic costs RM888 from you. Dell costs RM585 from forum sellers. A difference of RM300. Does that extra RM300 justify for the extra integrated speakers? Warranty wise, DELL offers 3 yrs 1 to 1 doorstep swap. Let's say today my Dell LCD screwed up, I gave Dell RMA hotline a call, the next working day they send me a replacement to my doorstep, 1 to 1 swap. Does Viewsonic 3 yrs warranty covers doorstep warranty as well? I don't think so. If you bring it back to RMA, I'm pretty sure you have to wait as well.

And from my personal experience, S2409W has less backlight bleed compared to VX2433wm. So when you say Viewsonic is wayyyyyyyyy better than Dell, do you mean the integrated speakers? And when you say the spec of Dell doesn't justify with the cheap price Dell offered, may I know which spec are you referring to? Dynamic contrast ratio? I think most of us know that's not something you look at when purchasing LCD, it's the typical contrast ratio that matters.

Cheers!

Mine only comes with 1 yr waranty and but so far works fine.Viewsonic VX2235WM,proud user here. To be fair every products wold have their own defects units,depends on luck lor.Only we may say the % of defects only,even samsung panels also got such problems.

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Added on March 4, 2009, 11:18 pmYou have to bear in mind that your comparison must be equivalent,for instance,both brands are @ forumer price?Or one of them is retail and another is forumer's price?It's not accurate if you compare so,let's talk about retail price.


This post has been edited by minghao: Mar 4 2009, 11:18 PM

Damn, those e-IPS panel just rapes TN apart lol..

your asus has got backlightbleed, maybe s2409w doesn't have em that bad..

anyway thanks!

dammit e-IPS panel damn nice.. too bad msia dell doesnt carry em.

btw, where did you get your DELL 2209WA ?

lolz do u need to be so desperate meh?if viewsonic rawks so much,you no need to come here advertise every hour la. duh!

Hello, is it possible for you guys/gals to help me find a suitable LCD monitor?

Budget: STRICTLY not more than RM520
Brand: I prefer Samsung but any brand is possible with a reasonable price.
Warranty: AT LEAST must have 3 years warranty.
Resolution: Full HD is the best, but 16:10 or other 16:9 models are also acceptable if the price is reasonable.

Thanks a lot for the help.

EDIT: Plus please is 20" or more.

This post has been edited by xcen: Mar 4 2009, 11:27 PM

My comparison is rigid. Both are lowyat.net garage sales prices. Unless you can find Viewsonic's retail price, then we shall compare RM699 retail price of DELL vs RM??? retail price of Viewsonic.

Even if you want to compare retail price of DELL RM699 with lowyat.net's price of RM888, no problem. DELL is still cheaper by RM189. With that, you get a good 2.1 speaker, how's that?

Dude, I get it from DELL's website last month. It was there but no idea why they took it down.

below 520? mostly samsung 2033sw(16:9) ba if u like prefer samsung
by the way dell 20"(16:10)ultra sharp also no bad. RM47x

other brand i no sure... Just a little help and own opinion

everyone knows dell s2409 is the best value for money right now,no need to debate anymore. look at garage sales enough la, how many units sold? i think more than 400 units how many went and buy viewsonic?i think my finger also can count.

Thank you very much for the suggestion! Btw, dell 20" is what model?

go to dell website lor, there are a lot of models for u to choose.www.dell.com.my

bravo!!! you sold 15 units of viewsonic!!!!!! compared to 200++ units of dell sold at garage sales, and still selling now.until out of stock ppl have to queue

This post has been edited by Barricade: Mar 4 2009, 11:41 PM

See Dell ultra sharp 2009W

Here you go. I also plan to buy that since for me 20" is big enough for me. quite cheap too.( Actually is me no $ )

If compare ViewSonic & Samsung, I sure pick ViewSonic 1st choice Samsung 2nd choice. Dell??? Only the premium panels are good, of coz u pay for premium price!! Serivices i don really care bout it

This post has been edited by zeustronic: Mar 4 2009, 11:56 PM

http://www1.ap.dell.com/content/products/c...en&s=dhs&~ck=mn

Here got 20" 16:9 version.

AFAIK, play HD content on 16:9 will not have black bars, 16:10 will have black bars, but can be used to play subtitles no?

And I saw the Dell Monitor say has USB 2.0 ports, what is it for?

Black bars or no black bars depends on your movie ratio. If you movie's aspect ratio is anything above 1.78:1, both 16:9 and 16:10 will have black bars. Just that with 16:9 the black bars will be thinner. Most movies are in 1.85:1 and 2.39:1 ratio.

Hmm I see. I think Dell E2009W is a better choice with 16:10 ratio even though I use it to watch movies. The black bars could be used as space for subtitles. Plus, I've seen Acer X203H before, 16:9 a bit too rectangle lol.

I see that Dell website selling at really great price. Is there any catch or trap? Like no DVI cable? Need pay extra?

Is there anywhere else that sells this model at a lower price? Can't find one in LYN.

All Dell LCDs comes with DVI cable. No worries.