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Added on July 5, 2009, 9:39 pm


u are as good as killing all of us here in this forum with this statement..it means birds can be move, is that what u want to tell all of us here and including all the govt officers ??

please do explain what u mean by ur post. thank you.

This post has been edited by ChanK: Jul 5 2009, 09:39 PM

Why so sensitive here? Chasing or frightening away some old birds in a BH to other nearby BH in the same area is very common. If thieves keep on visiting you three to four times in a year, you would also want to move away to a safer house yourself, right? Same logic. If a successful house is under heavy expansion renovation for more than a week, definitely some birds would be lost to the neighbour due to stress and disturbances.

Don't worry, young man, it is unlike shutting down all the BHs in town and force the birds with no old BH to return but to go to the ECO-PARK. By that time, Your uncle,I and West Wind will be the first ones taking up big parang and charge at the ECO-PARK owners and chop off their birdies to feed our dogs.........do you dare to follow us.......?????????

Thks for the clarification. It is a very sensitive post, as officers with minimal knowledge will take that statements to justify their wrong actions.

My apology for being sensitive to uncle n westwing.




YOU JUMP I JUMP.

Lucas,

Thanks for the clarification and Young Man, I am still not that old to understand what I am doing. I am trying to help those in the trade how to prevent the loss of birds and to increase population to show that "Malaysia Boleh" if given the chances and Isha Allah, we will succeed cos if the birds do fly, it the next blocks will gain and any birds that fly far is anybody guess. The birds may decide that Malaysia isn't a good location at all if we also destroy all their sanctuaries @ towns like what happened to the caves and in Indonesia where they are experiencing a decrease in birds' population and blaming it on the lack of food but then my nests seem to be bigger these days and why? Too much good food in Malaysia, I guess. Mind you that the birds can fly hundreds of kilometer in a day to search for food and although they normally fly nearby as food is plentiful in Malasyia. If the Authorities destroy all the BHs @ towns, the birds may just lose faith in Malaysia and decide to quit Malaysia once and for all and fly to Thailand where they are treated as VIPs or to a new frontier like Laos or maybe China.......

All what I have been postings are for the authorities to understand that whatever and no matter what, the towns' Bhs have to stay to be successful and it's the towns' BHs that will eventually help the industry to grow. Disallowing us@towns the right to remain @ towns will only kill the industry or al least back steps it by 10 years which will kill all Eco Parks. Without such assurance that we will be allowed to remain forever @ towns will force us @ towns to take dramatic action ( although cruel it maybe) that will give faster returns to cut losses but will kill the upcoming industry in the process.

Again, as usual, above are my own explanations to what I have posted. Others, please do share...........Birds has bird brains but then, they do have brains!!!!!

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Added on July 6, 2009, 1:06 pmPm from a reader
Sent: Monday, July 06, 2009 11:44 AM
To: west wing
Subject: RE: ammonia

actually how to do ammonia diy??can u teach me ??uncle west wing,actually i am newbie ,many thing dunno,but i scare use ammonia coz dangerous..

Answer:

The smell of their ( shits ) ammonia excite them, and they love it but too much of good thing also will kill, right?


Making of good Ammonia,
(Copy Right by West Wing.)

Oh that very easy and the easiest way of doing it is to take a plastic bag and filled up half with fresh shit and the remaining with water. Stir it well. Tie it but not too tied and be sure to leave so space for expansion or otherwise the plastic bag will bust. Best leave it under the sun for a week and you may want to shake it daily and when you see the plastic bag expand to its fullest. Careful take it into you BH and be very careful when opening the bag cos you may faint due to the Ammonia gas (wear a mask).

Once open, pop out come the gas and that smell is great and birds from nearby will just rush in and you may just faint there too. If you are still standing, filter the mixture and you have yourself a self made aroma (ammonia) solution ready to make the swiftlets crazy over you.

A DIY solution and you may just want to buy from suppliers that will surely save you alot of shit smell.



This post has been edited by West Wing: Jul 6 2009, 01:06 PM

AFs migrating?

What West Wing posted about adult birds shoosing a more peaceful place to stay is absolutely correct. There is nothing to hide about this fact. Let us be transparent about this issue.

But to move BH lock, stock and barrel is something else. That's what the eco-park promoters have been misleading anybody that cares to listen. They have hidden agendas.

Here at Lowyat forum, we are proud to remain above board. The contributions of the sifus are priceless.

Cheers.

yo bros heree? how do u differentiate a male from a female AF?

2 Vietnamese tourists were arrested in KLIA on 01.07.09 by Wildlife enforcement officer for bringing 10kg of bird’s nest out of country without paying exit tax for it. They were remanded without allowing bail in Balai Sepang lock-up till today and only bailed out at RM500/= each. They will be charged on 09.07.09 in Sepang Magistrate court. The offence carries a penalty of maximum fine of not more than RM1,000.

Understand that the Vietnamese are prominent personalities in their own country. They purchased the nests in KL through recommendation of local friends as hand gift after a holiday tour here. This is the first time they were introduced to Malaysian nests. They were not aware that there is a law requiring exit tax of RM100/kg to be paid in advance before nests could be brought out of country. Malaysia is the only country that practises this..

The Vietnamese also did not apprehend why there exists such a serious law that they were not allowed to be bailed out by a lawyer engaged by their local friends. They were bringing foreign revenue to Malaysia. They were prepared to pay for the compound which was rejected by the officer. As such they were remanded in a filthy cell cramped together with many local criminals and drug addicts since 01.07.09 till today.


Malaysia BOLEH!!!













This post has been edited by ChanK: Jul 6 2009, 08:16 PM

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This post has been edited by tangsn: Jul 7 2009, 09:56 AM

The one chasing from behind is a male.






This post has been edited by Lucas 1: Jul 7 2009, 11:06 AM

yo bros regarding all these semminar/courses, which 1 do u'll think is suitable for a starter like myself

For a starter, read some books first before asking any questions or attending any seminar.

Only after u read all the books that u can find. and when u think that those books are still not helpful then u can attend seminar.



Yes, black sheeps plenty in chinese too n in fact involves all races whether american, british, austrian, african, thai, japanese n u name it u got it.

look at what the few chinese is doing in Dong Jia for the sake of their stupidity own hidden agenda and ruin the futures of chinese malaysian in malaysia!!...


in swiftlet farming industry too got black sheeps that try to harm farmers too !!...

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Added on July 7, 2009, 9:33 am
Posted in Malaysiakini

“贪吃”是弱点，天天燕窝

询及出任第一夫人后有何转变时，罗斯玛表示，她现在变成很忙碌，很少有私人时间，例如打羽球以及与朋友聚会。

评估自己的长短处时，罗斯玛说，本身的优点在于，自己是一个积极与专注的人，能够积极适应本身的角色与改变；弱点则是本身“贪吃”，喜欢各种美味的食物，尤其是辛辣的食物。

询及她与纳吉每日的早餐时，罗斯玛说，他们的早餐分量很少，但是纳吉却服用很多补品。

“我也服用很多维他命C以及燕窝，几乎每一天。”







This post has been edited by ChanK: Jul 7 2009, 09:33 AM

thanks bro. btw wat book should i read? (a title from bros here would be a great help!)

天天服用燕窝, 你一定能成为第一夫人 ！！

Agreed 100%

"God love the children,
all the children of the world, black or white, red or yellow....
we are precious in his sight..... "

Since, we are God's children......Therefore, we are all brothers in the eye of God.

So, no racist remark @ forum, pls.....

Is 100k enough to get a contractor working on a 3 storey building? Does anyone has any contacts for contractors with reasonable price.

Try reading this book:- Make Millions from swiftlet farming: A definitive guide by Dr Christopher Lim

4層樓毗連式燕屋興起‧傳統養燕業邁入系統化

柔佛
2009-06-14 13:53

（柔佛‧豐盛港）豐盛港4棟4層樓高的毗連式燕屋週六（6月13日）正式向外界推介，標示著傳統養燕業已慢慢地現代化、系統化。

靠近豐盛港工業區、距離市區約5公里的燕窩生產與養殖中心，是由雨燕實業管理私人有限公司負責發展。

此中心首階段將建造28間燕屋，目前已完工的燕屋有12間，另外的16間燕屋預計在今年底完工。燕屋的一樓至三樓是養燕處，底層則是店面。

雨燕實業管理私人有限公司週六為上述中心舉行推介儀式，主賓是柔佛州國際貿易、工業、能源、水務、通訊及環境委員會主席陳國其他出席者包括豐盛港縣長拿督阿都拉薩、豐盛港中華商會會長黃世忠等。

這間公司在會上也頒發養燕和採燕窩執照給購買屋的人士。

雨燕實業管理私人有限公司董事長許春榮，週六在推介儀式上與漢融有限公司的代表陳建汶簽署備忘錄。

後者代表中國投資方，以1200萬令吉購買燕窩生產與養殖中心的16間燕屋。

另一方面，許冠仁指出，目前已建竣的燕屋有12間，另外的16間燕屋預計在今年底建成；次階段的34間燕屋預計在3個月內動工。

他說，公司在這個項目上投資了逾1000萬令吉，預計五、六年內可以回收成本。

陳國煌促管理層遵守條例
燕窩養殖中心可成景點

柔州國際貿易、工業、能源、水務、通訊及環境委員會主席陳國煌促請燕窩生產與養殖中心管理層遵守各限條例，以便成為其他養燕業者學習的對像。

他表示投資是有風險的，可是只要具備專業和經驗，就能夠把危機化為商機。

他希望燕窩生產與養殖中心能夠發展成為旅遊景點，讓豐盛港在以島嶼旅遊及海鮮美食聞名之餘，也能憑著燕屋、燕窩生產過程吸引遊客。

黃世忠：集中養燕增投資者信心
豐盛港中華商會會長黃世忠說，燕窩生產與養殖中心不但能夠帶動豐盛港的工業，也能帶動旅遊業。

他也認為若把分散各處的燕屋，集中在同一個地區，這有助於提高投資者對養燕業的信心。


鑾縣長：豐盛港氣候最適合養燕

居鑾縣長拿督阿都拉薩說，根據野生動物保護局官員的研究顯示，豐盛港的空氣與氣候讓豐盛港成為世界上最佳的養燕地點。

因此，他促請養燕業者遵守所有條規，並確保養燕行為不會干擾居民。

他同時認為燕窩生產與養殖中心的設立也能帶動養燕業下遊行業，及對當地的中小型企業有所助益。

星洲日報／大柔佛‧2009.06.13




柔丰盛港建养燕中心‧出售燕屋供国内外投资
http://news.sina.com 2009年06月13日 20:44 星洲日报
　　


　　许冠仁： 游客可以观看燕子筑巢和参观燕屋内部。（图：星洲日报）


　　4 层楼高的燕屋， 一楼至三楼是燕子筑巢的地方，底层则可以充作燕窝加工厂或燕窝展销处。（图：星洲日报）
　　（柔佛‧丰盛港）国内首个一站式养燕与燕窝生产中心正式落户柔佛州丰盛港，不但带动了当地的经济活动，更为丰盛港新增了一个旅游景点。

　　由雨燕实业管理私人有限公司发展的燕窝生产与养殖中心，首阶段建有4栋共28间燕屋的建筑物，每栋建筑物高4楼；次阶段则将建造34间燕屋。

　　发展商除了保留其中6间燕屋外，其他的燕屋都会出售，供国内外人士投资；每间燕屋售价是75万令吉，有永久地契。

　　燕子筑巢在1至3楼

　　燕屋的1楼至3楼是燕子筑巢的地方，底层则与普通的店面差不多，可以充作燕窝加工厂或燕窝展销处。

　　根据估算，燕子在燕屋的第一年会造窝并下蛋培育下一代，燕子在第一年大约可以生产300片燕窝。

　　第二代的燕子在第二年开始造窝，每年可生产约1200片燕窝；第3年可以生产的燕窝约3000片。燕窝的产量将随着燕子的增加而提高。
　　发展商可教导养燕上述燕窝生产与养殖中心靠近丰盛港工业区，距离市区约5公里。此中心装有闭路电视和设有24小时的保安服务，保安服务首2年免费。

　　雨燕实业管理私人有限公司总经理许冠仁说，公司也计划把燕窝生产与养殖中心发展成一个生态旅游景点。

　　“游客可观看燕子筑巢、燕屋内部、近距离瞭解员工处理燕窝等过程，也能在燕屋底层的燕窝展销中心购买燕窝。”

　　发展商除了建造燕屋，也提供技术支援，教导投资者如何养燕、收割燕窝等工作，也会协助投资者销售所得的燕窝。

　　投资者也获得由野生动物保护局发出的养燕和採燕窝执照。 星洲日报‧2009.06.14



See! The hidden agenda of the bad Chinese is clearly exposed here. Focus on the statement made by the 2nd speaker, the one from the Chinese Chamber.


Here is the main reason why the JOHOR STATE GOVT PROPOSED GUIDELINES FOR THE BH IN TOWNS is so stiff and wanting to close down all BHs in towns within 3 years. See who are the ones against the Johor BH owners? The strong men of the MARI CARI AYAM Johor gang. These are the traitors, the bad men.


Don't you think that it is time for all BH owners to be united urgently for group survival by now? Especially the Johor owners? Go and join the Johor Bird's Nest Industry Association under Dr Tan to help him fight the evil MARI CARI AYAM gang to help yourselves before too late. Who said all Chinese are good?

That I disagree 1000% !!

Pls do not misguide newbies !!!...Stop it!!! of course thats my own opinion loh.


`Know Thyself '.

To learn to KEEP swiftlets, U must understand the birds first!!!....


Go buy this book : Swiftlets Of Borneo : Builders of Edible Nests by Lim Chan Koon and Earl of Cranbrook


Then only u go buy Nugroho books such as i also forgot which one...one for nesting plank, one for designing farms and one talk abt general stuff.

Then after u have build ur farm and u want techniques to increase ur nests count, then u buy henmulia book where got quite a few tips u can used.

Then when u got too much money to spends and u got nothing to do and u are Love Made in Malaysia Type, then

U go buy Dr chris book.


of course that is my personal preference and others will have their own preference.



but Lim chan koon book is the best!!!...

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Added on July 8, 2009, 8:35 am

靠近豐盛港工業區、距離市區約5公里的燕窩生產與養殖中心，是由雨燕實業管理私人有限公司負責發展。




Good !!!!......don't be mad lucas1....Now we can argue


WHAT IS THE DIFFERENCE ??....U ALREADY APPROVED ECO PARK NEAR TO TOWN WHICH IS ONLY 5KM AWAY !!!.....SO WHAT U WANT TO ARGUE SOME MORE???


WHAT IS THE POINT TO SHIFT FARMS FROM TOWN N MOVE TO 5KM AWAY !!!..


NOW...JOHOR FARMERS....BETTER DO ACTION LOH BEFORE THESE SUCKERS PLAY YR BACK SIDES AND U STILL DON'T KNOW LEH!!!

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Added on July 8, 2009, 9:00 am

黃世忠：集中養燕增投資者信心
豐盛港中華商會會長黃世忠說，燕窩生產與養殖中心不但能夠帶動豐盛港的工業，也能帶動旅遊業。

他也認為若把分散各處的燕屋，集中在同一個地區，這有助於提高投資者對養燕業的信心


NOW U KNOW WHO IS PLAYING YOUR BACKSIDES QUIETLY ?? 豐盛港中華商會會長黃世忠

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Added on July 8, 2009, 9:06 amI ALWAYS VERY CURIOUS WHY IN KUANTAN THE LOCAL COUNCIL DO NOT ALLOW BIRDHOUSE GRD FLOOR AS RESTAURANT DUE TO HYGIENCE ISSUES..


BUT THEN WHY THEY ALLOW BIRD NEST PROCESSING IN GRD FLOOR ???


LOH!!!.....ANY RESTAURANTS IN MALAYSIA ARE MORE DIRTY THAN A WELL MAINTAIN SWIFTLET FARM LAH!!!......


U GOT SEE ANY RATS RUNNING AROUND IN FARMS......U CAN SEE IT IN SOME RESTAURANTS.....

U CAN'T EVEN SEE ANY ANTS INSIDE THE FARMS LAH!!!....HYGIENCE??...




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Added on July 8, 2009, 9:23 am
THE ALL FAMOUS BLOGGER WITH 200,000 HITS SWIFTLET FARMING BLOG WITH THE NAME OF SOH HAI HARRY, KINDLY STOP SENDING EMAIL TO US TO ASK QUESTIONS :

home002200@hotmail.com

hi, i got one question again,actually the swiftlet birds like the source of sound is
echo ot not echo????

i mean the bird like to heard the echo of ird song????

is it more echo the bird song then will easy attract the bird fly in BH????

actually what is the standard of source song is need to mention???like how DB
???frekuensi????and other?

can u correct me if i am wrong,thanks



THANK YOU..IF U GOT ANY MORE QUESTION, PLS ASK YR MAMA !!.

This post has been edited by ChanK: Jul 8 2009, 09:23 AM

Same boat but two different characters, Ong Kar Chuan said perfectly ok for shoplots and now this guy Ng Si Chong (Clock Ng?) said not ok. Who is this Ng to call the shot?

There are always white cats and black cats, some grey ones too pending on situation.

Still got my respect for Chua SL and Ong KT(d bro) no matter what people said abt them. Unfortunately majority from the predecessor era are turning the association to Malaysian Chick... Asso. Younger generation like us kind of losing respect for the crooked party. The way it goes think it will get kicked out soon starts from Johor and Sawak.

We want to change ... ayam berkokok.

This post has been edited by Bobby C: Jul 8 2009, 10:13 AM

I suggest if we can advertise the risk of Eco Park Investment in major news papers or conduct seminar to educate people about the disadvantages of the Eco park that would help.