You can ask any of your local bn association committee members, what do you think of David Lim, they will straight away tell you all nonsense!! as they knew Mr David Lim will not hesitate to f*** them up if they not do their job protecting farmers !!!....
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Got it from a friend in Malaka, 06-2866392.

I think that the measurement should be 6 meters from the building wall outside of the BH facing toward the BH. If your External tweeters are facing upward over 70%. you maybe safe.............try it as we are using the Decibel meter for our Association. If even 60 meter facing a tweeter, you will exceed 40DBL.

I believe there is an international way on how to measure......

I have so much problem telling all new BH owners to do the following which have been advised by the consultants.

1. Sound need not be too loud as that will worsen the situation if your BH is already drawing birds in.......
2. Changing of sound when the good is riding will create distraction and the shit will tell.
3. Internal sound is always necessary if the birds feel secure and only be used when the bird feel unsecured.
4. Using Bird sound in the middle of the night only disturbed the neighbours and nothing good will come as if there is already birds in the BH, their sound are different during the day and night and so what for having the day sound in the night or the night sound during the day. Better let the birds make their own music. If the the BH has no birds, then what are the noght sound for?

To be fair to all sifus and newbees, may I suggest that those who know the success story of any sifu please quote their achievement and also their failure, so that we newbees can have a good reference. Please reveal only real facts and dont use vulgar word.

Another note, I will not switch on the humidifier in a new BH. When birds populations starts to increase only then will set the humidity to 80 and 85 max. And switch off during raining season. Recently I visited 3 BH where the owner is too eager and have pools and fountains inside the BH and only remedy now is to change all the nesting planks.

Hi all sifu,

Its a good idea of joining the association. However, people like me may not know how to contact them. There is no website, nor that we know who to contact.

Maybe for people who know the contact of the various association may kindly post their contact here. Thank you!

Sure can build trove with fierglass with bottom drainage to collect the urine. There are many design to be found on the web.

Some design allowed the worms to feed in tray one then trove two is stack on the top with new bird shit. When the worms finish the bottom trove (one) they will migrate to trove no two that was placed on top of tray one.

Beddings in trove one will have been completly consumed and composed by the worms are then taken out and dried for sale or applied wet directly to your garden, any leftover worms found are placed back to trove two. Trove one is then place on top of trove number two and receive new bird shit for next round.

These are composing worms . Three specisis  are found to be most efficent they are the Tiger,Red Worms and the African Night Crawlers. sell excess worms or start another set.

Interesting finding. 
That BGB in the picture is mine and I've yet to test it out in actual operational mode. Does your friend play the amp non stop or on relay timer with another backup amp ? I will be going to Pasar road again these few days to buy another unit and I plan to use 2 units of 6 channel BGB amp to play internal sound 24/7 at 3 hours alternately using a relay timer (Hager timer). Will share my experience here if BGB amp failed me.

Never use any aroma or love portion in a BH where birds already live in. If you feel that it would give you more confidence that you must use certain aroma inside a newly constructed BH with no birds living in yet, then use the traditional method, i.e. use real bird’s shit contained in plastic containers placed at the four corners of a floor. Spray some water on it periodically but not too wet so to let the natural ammonia smell come out. This is so far proven and considered the best aroma for birds. Cheap and good and last very long. Other methods to the experienced are all not proven or simply salesman talks to the newbies. 

Anyway, don’t blame the sellers of the love portion or aroma after all they didn’t point a pistol on your head to force you to buy. It is willing buyer and willing seller situation. You do pay to learn a lesson from it. Don’t throw away the balance of the love portion. It is wastage if you just throw it away. Why don’t you try experiment it in your bed room to see if it works for you? Who knows it may work better on human……….hahahahaha……………………Better luck next time…………

4層樓毗連式燕屋興起‧傳統養燕業邁入系統化

柔佛
2009-06-14 13:53

（柔佛‧豐盛港）豐盛港4棟4層樓高的毗連式燕屋週六（6月13日）正式向外界推介，標示著傳統養燕業已慢慢地現代化、系統化。

靠近豐盛港工業區、距離市區約5公里的燕窩生產與養殖中心，是由雨燕實業管理私人有限公司負責發展。

此中心首階段將建造28間燕屋，目前已完工的燕屋有12間，另外的16間燕屋預計在今年底完工。燕屋的一樓至三樓是養燕處，底層則是店面。

雨燕實業管理私人有限公司週六為上述中心舉行推介儀式，主賓是柔佛州國際貿易、工業、能源、水務、通訊及環境委員會主席陳國其他出席者包括豐盛港縣長拿督阿都拉薩、豐盛港中華商會會長黃世忠等。

這間公司在會上也頒發養燕和採燕窩執照給購買屋的人士。

雨燕實業管理私人有限公司董事長許春榮，週六在推介儀式上與漢融有限公司的代表陳建汶簽署備忘錄。

後者代表中國投資方，以1200萬令吉購買燕窩生產與養殖中心的16間燕屋。

另一方面，許冠仁指出，目前已建竣的燕屋有12間，另外的16間燕屋預計在今年底建成；次階段的34間燕屋預計在3個月內動工。

他說，公司在這個項目上投資了逾1000萬令吉，預計五、六年內可以回收成本。

I'm having problem with humidity control in my BH... but in a reverse way.  My BH is without any humidifier or mist sprayer. But yet the natural humidity of my BH is so high that the hygrometer always shows 'Hi' (Max) in the morning and the min reading ever recorded was 78%. Lately I've found mold (white spot)  growing on the wooden plank that host the timer and the power points. I opened up all ventilation holes (177 of them) but the hygrometer still show 'Hi' or 80+% on average. So far, no white spots found on the nesting planks but I'm worry one day it will.  Any comment ?

WW, your guess is pretty accurate. My BH is located in rural area and near river. Ground floor temperature fluctuate around 25c to 27c.
I opened up all 177 VH because I thought stagnant air helps mold formation and let the damp air flow out. No ?

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Like I said, if you did a study of your area before you started your BH, you wouldn't have the problem. Instate of solving them, you are trying to add more dampness in to your BH and no bird of good sense will build their nests there as the eggs may not hatch and chick will die of cold.

Closes all VHoles and hope that the H is high but the temperature in the BH must be high for the eggs to hatch ( expert in chicken rearing here will tell you so) Don't you worry as we here have all type of  professionals in all trade...... venturing into the BH industry for early retirement plan and I believe they are willing to share their expertise for the betterment of all.

Wind and cold are not good for the breeding of swiftlets. Brighness is not a safe place for swiftlets....we have have problem with low humidity and too warm as town sometime shoot up to even more than 36C.......until the parent bird even pull off their feathers even not in the season.....

Tha't my personal  opinion only....