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All i can read from the link is "air asia plane poor maintenance". What's that all about?

I found a threat regarding to the airasia poor maintenance plane which is belongs to gto3000 on zerotohundred.com(automotive forum)

gto3000:
Hi, first I would like to apoloze if the post is not OK in here ...
Because I feel like it is a responsible to voice out about my concern ... on Air Asia Plane Maintenance ... I have send countless email to Air Asia, guestsupport@airasia.com, or callup the Call Center only to put on HOLD for 1 hours plus ....
I ever post an comment on blog.airasia.com, but the post never published ...
Below is the messages I sent to Air Asia:-

Dear AirAsia,
Just some minor input about AirAsia ... maintenance on airplane. I have submit in my feedback through AirAsia web site, but nobody ever reply & ever call the Call Center 03-21729222, the voice center just pass me around. Hope you can divert me to the right person.

During my last flight with AirAsia on Febuary, 2009, the AirAsia plane I taken was in very poor maintenance & condition, as attach some photo I took after I have safely landed at the airport.
On the wing section, you can notice that they use some kind of silver tape just to secure the broken metal pieces....
Thank you !

Attach is the photo I taken on the Wing Portion on Air Asia Plane !

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This post has been edited by hakunamatata: Jun 14 2009, 03:11 AM

i heard from my fren, he said one of the jt goint to kuching is a girl,
while the one working wit me is going to Miri
others im not sure, but quite a number to east msia

This post has been edited by azameel: Jun 14 2009, 05:40 AM

Here's a link to a blog about MIAT's EASA Program set up by one of the instructors there.

miat-easa.blogspot.com

There's infos on how MIAT is handling it, the entry requirements, application etc.

Hope this helps.

waaa...so many airline personel eh?hehe,tot it was in flydamnit only..so anyone of u is working with mas?jr tech ke ape ke,bole lepak2 minum kat cafe..

hakunamatata,
Any response yet?

This post has been edited by jazzy939: Jun 16 2009, 05:23 PM

cubaan rasuah???

Probably not.

u mean response from airasia or public?

There is a latest post and update from the thread starter gt3000:

Hi, good day everyone ... Finally get reply from Tony, below message for your references :-

From: Tony Fernandes [mailto:tonyfernandes@airasia.com]
Sent: Saturday, June 13, 2009 2:54 PM
To: Bo Lingam; Bolingam
Subject: Re: Re : Air Asia Plane Maintenance !


This is normal. Looks like a 737. Bo can you get azhari to reply yo.
Kind regards tony

Sent from my BlackBerry® wireless device

CooL CEO ... reply my mail from BlackBerry wireless device

is normal i guess..

That was normal?

How they define 'normal' i wonder.

as long as aircraft can fly without any prob.

Well it doesn't work that way, young padawan.

Just because the aircraft can fly doesn't mean that it is airworthy.

as long the aircraft is airworthy and complies to all rules and law
Am i right?

Yes, you are correct.

Airworthiness of an aircraft basically means that an aircraft is legally worthy of conducting safe operations (flight).

By legally, first the aircraft must have obtained the C of A (certificate of airworthiness) when it rolled out of the manufacturer's hangar. Then the airworthiness must be continued or maintained by an authorised AME by a maintenance program/schedule that is set up by the air operator (MAS, AA) and approved by the authority (DCA, CAA, FAA).

So the approved maintenance program has become a regulation that the air operator must abide whenever their personnel are to carry out any maintenance work. Actually there is more to it and needs further elaboration but I don’t want to dwell into that here.

But the general thing that must be understood is that airworthiness or airworthy means the ability of an aircraft to operate without significant hazard to aircrew, ground crew, passengers or to the general public over which such aircraft are flown.

Then again, as long as the aircraft can fly then it's ok, yes granted. But many do not realize that the consequence of an engineer's error is often not immediately apparent. Meaning that when an engineer made a mistake such as forgetting, deviation from procedure (accidental or deliberate), incorrect installations, wrong parts, etc, the implications of that mistake usually did not happen right there straight away. But it may happen when the aircraft is taking off, when it is 30,000ft in the air, when it is in landing approach or whenever the aircraft is in flight that can endanger the lives of flight crew as well as passengers.

That is how i understand it and can explain for the time being.

This post has been edited by hirari: Jun 18 2009, 03:17 PM

and if any mandatory maintenance/mods/repair/AD etc is not complied the C of A will become invalid
and the aircraft is said to be not airworthy meaning not safe to fly

so if da aircraft is airworthy,its ok right?

It has to be. There is no other way around it.


Thank you azameel for pointing that out.


And it is not just about complying procedures; it's also about another important issue, responsibility.

It is important that engineering staff at all levels are not afraid to voice concerns over inappropriate deadlines, and if necessary, cite the need to do a safe job to support this. Within aircraft maintenance, responsibility should be spread across all those who play a part. So, an AME should not feel that 'the buck stops here’.

If an engineer is in any doubt on what needs to be done, the best reference is the manuals or appropriate written guidance materials. There is no harm in asking or discussing with co-workers but they may unintentionally give incorrect or imprecise direction. And the only exception to this is when the problems that arise are not covered in the guidance material.

Although the management have a responsibility to ensure that their engineers have suitable training, at the end of the day, it is up to the engineer himself to decide whether he has the necessary skills and has the proficiency and experience to do what he has been asked to do. He should not be afraid to voice out any misgivings, although it is understandable that peer and management pressure may make this difficult.

Meaning that an engineer should know when to say ‘No’ and not be afraid to say it if there comes a time that they are asked to cut corners to make way for profits. Because a good engineer always put aircraft safety first above all else and would do nothing to jeopardize it.

This post has been edited by hirari: Jun 18 2009, 10:07 PM

Hello,

I am currently undergoing Aerospace Engineering degree in USM. I want enroll in the aircraft maintenance once I complete my studies next year.
I wish to apply for graduate officer in RMAF. May I become a licensed aircraft engineer by entering RMAF Engineering College? What kind of maintenance courses offered there? Pls Help................

From the first 'updated' page.

Technically this is INCORRECT.
This has got nothing to do with the airline.
If you have to work and certify Malaysian registered aircrafts (all the 9M-XXX), in which MAS, AA and other local airlines are flying, then you must hold a DCA's AMEL which is issued as per MCAR requirements based on the BCAR's Section L.


"e.g. EASA is recognized in Europe while Bcar is recognized in MAS and AA as DCA using Bcar."

I thought we've established that already.

What were discussed are about the safe operations of an aircraft and the possibility of deviation from the correct procedures by the maintenance personnel even the engineers with the appropriate licenses and/or approvals.