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Engineering Licensed Aircraft Maintenance Engineer (LAME), Guide & everything about this career!

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post Mar 17 2012, 12:47 AM

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QUOTE(jazzy939 @ Mar 17 2012, 12:17 AM)
Not at all lah! This is what forums are for.. helping out one another! biggrin.gif

That I have to give it to MATA, they're a good seller! laugh.gif
If you wereto ask DCA, they should be able to advice and give you good options for you to decide.
I teach in an ATO.. that is all I will reveal. wink.gif
The problem with MIAT approval lies with the QAM himself.. enough said! tongue.gif
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there you go. somebody who has broad experience in DCA malaysia has spoken. it sucks, especially for me as a Semester 3 Avionics student. it's too late to quit and jump to other training organization right? all i do know right now is, to complete my logbook (during sem 5 OJT, during short training with any company that is willing to take me for 1 week mid sem break or 1 month semester break and of course, pray that miat stop b****ing around. lol)
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post Mar 17 2012, 12:51 AM

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camel. Do not be despair.
Finish your course. Pass ALL your required modules(13 for Cat B1.1) then get into the industry to gain that live aircraft experience for your license grant..
There is still hope for you yet. Trust me.
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post Mar 17 2012, 12:57 AM

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QUOTE(jazzy939 @ Mar 17 2012, 12:51 AM)
camel. Do not be despair.
Finish your course. Pass ALL your required modules(13 for Cat B1.1) then get into the industry to gain that live aircraft experience for your license grant..
There is still hope for you yet. Trust me.
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yeap, that is what i'm planning to do.

the bold part : this is what i'm lost. if i wait for MIAT QA to call me to take the exam, god knows how long it's gona be. but if i submit my application for exam module directly to DCA, they say i won't be considered as candidate from MIAT which means if MIAT does get the ATO status from DCA in future, i won't get the privilege of having to work for 2 years to get experience before i can submit my license application, i have to work 5 years instead. am i correct?
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Unfortunately, you are correct!
What you and the guys need to do now is pressure the management. Write letters, lots of them.
Talk to the Dekan (my senior and friend).. En. Hyder, also a friend but he gave up on that QAM.. or Prof. Zahir.

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QUOTE(jazzy939 @ Mar 17 2012, 12:17 AM)
Not at all lah! This is what forums are for.. helping out one another! biggrin.gif

That I have to give it to MATA, they're a good seller! laugh.gif
If you wereto ask DCA, they should be able to advice and give you good options for you to decide.
I teach in an ATO.. that is all I will reveal. wink.gif
The problem with MIAT approval lies with the QAM himself.. enough said! tongue.gif
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Yeah I plan to call DCA after i get my SPM results.
But right now,all I can think about asking them is
-which suitable place study and take license
-fee structures
-benefits and cons of the institute
-minimum practical years have to work before can take license exam

Any other things I should add on?
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post Mar 17 2012, 12:25 PM

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QUOTE(GilaLaksa @ Mar 17 2012, 09:10 AM)
Yeah I plan to call DCA after i get my SPM results.
But right now,all I can think about asking them is
-which suitable place study and take license
-fee structures
-benefits and cons of the institute
-minimum practical years have to work before can take license exam

Any other things I should add on?
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in Malaysia,go for APR or Dilog.

QUOTE(jazzy939 @ Mar 16 2012, 05:31 PM)
Somebody has got to do the 'dirty job' if you know the 'cliche'... brows.gif
Not many LAEs have talent to teach eventhough they are very knowledgeable and experience. Rather let someone make a mess, let me do it.. biggrin.gif

'Teaching' is also a passion of mine.. I like sharing knowledge, skills and experience to those who wants to learn.
No point of me going to the grave with these knowledge, right? wink.gif
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Its not that i dont want to share,but i just dont know how to really teach like lecturer.facing the student,knowing them,classroom environment,etc2..but if theres someone ask anything,i will try my best to explain it..it feels good when u can share something with others.. hehe
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post Mar 17 2012, 12:54 PM

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QUOTE(jazzy939 @ Mar 15 2012, 03:57 PM)
I seriously think your view about aircraft maintenance is terribly narrow, focussing on fossil fuel that powers the engines that is going to deplete soon. Do you know they have jet engines running on hydrogen, etc?

Answer this.
Does it really matter what powers the engines, fossil fuel or warp drive or whatever the propulsion mode is?

Where does this requirements to have maintenance crew and certifications for airworthiness come from?

Take your time to answer.

The whole world is looking at you kiddo. biggrin.gif
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i just calm my mind...my friend go pop up this prob for me ty biggrin.gif rclxms.gif


Added on March 17, 2012, 12:57 pm
QUOTE(jazzy939 @ Mar 16 2012, 03:58 PM)
From the industry, only 2 names stand out.
1. DTS
2. APR-ATC

Both are Approved Training Organizations.
DTS strength in avionics ie Cat. B2
APR-ATC strength in Fixed Wing and Rotary wing. The ONLY ATO approved for rotary wing.

Stay away from MATA as you will 'pass out' WITHOUT A LICENSE!
Personally I think what they offer is like a scam/daylight robbery. Their Approval has lapsed since last year and no submission was made to renew as per AN1201 to qualify for Part 147 ATO.

Anything else?

MAS/AirAsia stopped the Trainee Engineers programme for quite sometime!
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ea person have to choose how many cat. ? i interested in Engine and hydraulics part blink.gif


Added on March 17, 2012, 12:59 pm
QUOTE(jazzy939 @ Mar 16 2012, 05:03 PM)
Tomorrow or saturday, go to PWTC, seek out DTS or APR booth and ask them everything you want to know.
Do not be mislead by EASA licence. If you're NOT type rated and lack in experience(minimum 5 years as an engineer), you have no 'value'.

Study parts of the plane? NO. You study EVERYTHING. You only specializes in AVIONICS or MECHANICAL TRADE OR BOTH!!

Why bother. I am in training and this is what I do for a living. Of course I am a licensed engineer with 27 years experience under my belt. You still need a second opinion? biggrin.gif
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....hmmmm so mind tellin ur pathway after SPM? with details like...whre u study wad license u get 1st and etc ? laugh.gif unsure.gif

This post has been edited by bandit94822: Mar 17 2012, 12:59 PM
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post Mar 17 2012, 07:11 PM

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You're telling me that you're only interested in the engines and the hydraulic system? doh.gif
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QUOTE(jazzy939 @ Mar 17 2012, 07:11 PM)
You're telling me that you're only interested in the engines and the hydraulic system?  doh.gif
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other part ok lar...but i tot we need to choose category ?
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That is correct, and do you actually know what are they? laugh.gif

QUOTE(bandit94822 @ Mar 18 2012, 12:42 AM)
other part ok lar...but i tot we need to choose category ?
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QUOTE(jazzy939 @ Mar 18 2012, 06:28 AM)
That is correct, and do you actually know what are they? laugh.gif
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dunno... blush.gif rclxub.gif please guide me sifu whistling.gif
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QUOTE(bandit94822 @ Mar 18 2012, 03:57 PM)
dunno... blush.gif  rclxub.gif  please guide me sifu  whistling.gif
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i think you should re-read this thread from page 1.
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Correct. It's on page 1! laugh.gif
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post Mar 19 2012, 12:26 PM

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Requirements & Ways to become a LAME
Basically, to be a LAME u need the License and not diploma/degree or others. That is the only requirement for a LAME. There are 2 types of license to be able to become a LAME.

Type of license/rating available

For Bcar Section L

A-Airframe(Structure of the aircraft)
C-Engine

X-Electrical and Instrument
R-Radio

usually A and C is combined and E, I, R is combined

For Easa

Cat. B1 for A,C,E(Airframe, Engine and Electrical)
-B1.1 Aeroplanes Turbine-Engines
-B1.2 Aeroplanes Piston-Engines
-B1.3 Helicopters Turbine-Engines
-B1.4 Helicopters Piston-Engines

Cat. B2 For E.I.R(Electrical, Instrument and Radio)

EASA - The European Aviation Safety Agency (EASA) was set up to promote the highest common standards of safety and environmental protection in civil aviation. It is intended to be the centrepiece of a new cost-efficient regulatory system in Europe and a reliable partner for equivalent authorities throughout the world.

As EASA develops the aviation regulatory environment it will change some of the existing CAA processes and procedures. These pages will keep you informed of the changes along with updates on how CAA is responding to the changes.

BCAR - British Civil Airworthiness Requirements (BCAR) which is similar to Easa.


This? i quite confuse...so if i go LAME program@ APR i have to choose how many? Coz i tot type rating is only for aircraft ex: type rating on Boeing 747 ? rclxub.gif rclxub.gif ohmy.gif
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You're still unclear of the subject matter, needs and requirements.
Please take your time to read from first page, slowly. biggrin.gif
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QUOTE(bandit94822 @ Mar 19 2012, 12:26 PM)
This? i quite confuse...so if i go LAME program@ APR i have to choose how many? Coz i tot type rating is only for aircraft ex: type rating on Boeing 747 ? rclxub.gif  rclxub.gif  ohmy.gif
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Mr jazzy please correct me if i'm wrong,
in simple words,
Type rating = only given to you after you complete basic license by the company QA.. if you were to work on B747, then u'll get B747 type rating.. dun worry this much, still a long journey to reach here.. biggrin.gif

I don't know how APR operates, but if students are given the options to choose their own trade, for example you wanna choose 1.1 Aeroplanes- Turbine, some modules or exams u take are the common/same modules with other trades, only a few are unique to 1.1 Aeroplane-turbine

see here http://www.scribd.com/doc/77309830/AN-1101-app1
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@jazzy939 and other sifoos.


I want to know about getting a B2 license from CAA UK. No, don’t ask me why or what not, I was just simply doing research about getting license there. it' my curiosity and I could not find it at 1st page either, the link is not working.

Okay, here it goes :

I want to know about Part 66 License from CAA UK. Specifically, B2 (Avionics). These are all the documents I’ve read (yeah, sem break ma, got a lot free time to read tongue.gif ). I might have missed or misunderstood something. So, please do correct me.

The Engineer’s License Guiding Documents :
http://www.caa.co.uk/docs/33/ELGDBook_07_WebVersion.pdf
Section E, Category B2 License :
http://www.caa.co.uk/docs/177/8355%20Section%20E_07.pdf

From my understanding, to get B2 license from CAA UK as a self starter applicants, not ATO students and etc, these are all I need :

1. Finish Module (all 12 of them, in Malaysia I guess we need to take them at British Council priced at 40 pounds each or RM350 per module if I’m not mistaken sweat.gif )

2. The minimum age to hold a Part-66 license is 18 years. In order to certify, the minimum age is 21.

3. Category B2 applicants who have not attended a part-147 approved course of training should have at least 5 years practical maintenance experience on operating aircraft. Experienced engineers within the UK, such as Skilled Workers, Armed Forces, Coast Guards and etc and these where I should get my logbook signed.

Is there anything else that I might have missed or misunderstood sir?

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so jazzy what u mean the LAME program only give me a basic license? after start working @ any company only got specific aircraft part and different plane type rating?
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QUOTE(bandit94822 @ Mar 19 2012, 10:31 PM)
so jazzy what u mean the LAME program only give me a basic license? after start working @ any company only got specific aircraft part and different plane type rating?
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any TAME programme at ATO can only give you a basic license known as License Without Type Rating. This is of course, you must have passed all required module exams for your license category(B1,B2 and etc), complete all the work schedule (logbook) in 2 years (since you're in ATO) first tongue.gif.

once you get the LWTR, the company who hire you will send you for the type rating course. if i'm not mistaken, with just LWTR, you can do the task with no problem but you must be observed by another LAE who has the type rating for the aircraft that you're working on.

i might have been wrong somewhere, please do correct me.
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QUOTE(camel90 @ Mar 19 2012, 10:38 PM)
any TAME programme at ATO can only give you a basic license known as License Without Type Rating. This is of course, you must have passed all required module exams for your license category(B1,B2 and etc), complete all the work schedule (logbook) in 2 years (since you're in ATO) first tongue.gif.

once you get the LWTR, the company who hire you will send you for the type rating course. if i'm not mistaken, with just LWTR, you can do the task with no problem but you must be observed by another LAE who has the type rating for the aircraft that you're working on.

i might have been wrong somewhere, please do correct me.
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i dont understand ur this part >>
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This is of course, you must have passed all required module exams for your license category(B1,B2 and etc), complete all the work schedule (logbook) in 2 years (since you're in ATO) first .


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