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mpyw
post Feb 20 2009, 12:32 PM

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and now add in the LED TV liao tongue.gif

don't fight lar...as long as u r happy with what you bought, then everything is ok no matter what other people say....
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post Feb 20 2009, 02:11 PM

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You'd be surprised at how many general consumers buy on bezel design alone... doh.gif
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post Feb 20 2009, 02:11 PM

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QUOTE(mpyw @ Feb 20 2009, 12:32 PM)
and now add in the LED TV liao tongue.gif

don't fight lar...as long as u r happy with what you bought, then everything is ok no matter what other people say....
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e... you mean LCD TV with LED backlighting? That is still LCD TV .... tongue.gif

If you mean OLED TV then no need to add for the time being la ... I think there is less than a dozen owners in this country even if there is any


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QUOTE(99below0 @ Feb 20 2009, 02:11 PM)
You'd be surprised at how many general consumers buy on bezel design alone...  doh.gif
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For most ppl, the bezel design is definitely a point worth considering ... sometime you need to impress your finance minister also ma tongue.gif ... and she is most likely to give you a blink.gif shakehead.gif blink.gif look if you just tell her about the PQ

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post Feb 20 2009, 07:16 PM

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QUOTE(99below0 @ Feb 20 2009, 02:11 PM)
You'd be surprised at how many general consumers buy on bezel design alone...  doh.gif
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I would consider it as a main selling point for me to consider, cos 70-80% of the time the TV just sitting there turned off in the living room/bedroom, .. so bezel is important from the aesthetics aspect for me. but of cos the panel has to be comparable to the price as well.. cannot be because of bezel design, we have to pay much more for it.. tongue.gif
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post Feb 20 2009, 07:31 PM

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I would like to know, which one is better for watching movies, playing games and surfing:

Panasonic 37LZ80MK 37" Full HD LCD - RM 2700 OR
Dell UltraSharp 30" 3008WFP - RM2700 OR
Dell 2707FPW Ultrasharp - RM1550 - RM1800

Juz want to make sure my money is well spent hmm.gif hmm.gif

Thanks icon_rolleyes.gif
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post Feb 20 2009, 10:21 PM

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QUOTE(DigitalKL @ Feb 20 2009, 11:14 AM)
LOL...very difficult to argue with gadget store owners..... laugh.gif

We are not comparing 480 vs 1080, or whether it is macroblocking or not, sharp or blur. If you cant tell the difference between these then..... rolleyes.gif
The difference can be subtle. Some panels brighter, some darker. Some ppl like bright. Some they like dark. This is subjective. Its not as simple as black vs white, day vs night.
Some ppl even buy because the bezel looks nicer.....some just for the name brand. If its so clear cut, then a lot of brands also chap lup already and video magazines also chap lup once they review lets say 2009 models and declare the top 10 list.
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ar188 really does not know the meaning of the words objective and subjective. He might be good in Video stuff but he definitely does not understand the meaning of the above two words.


Added on February 20, 2009, 10:27 pm
QUOTE(Matrix @ Feb 20 2009, 09:48 AM)
Yeah, me agrees with ar188 as well.

For a person with decently normal eyesight, can easily tells pixelly graphics, blurriness/sharpness, extra details, colour contrast, blackness etc.

Of course to some level, it MIGHT be subjective, but i believe the majority of people will prefer non-pixelly videos, sharp to blur (as in Blu Ray sharp to DVD's blur and DVD's sharp to even blurrer VCDs), good colour contrast, extra details (can see sweat and hair strand, instead a blog of dunno what) etc.

There'll be some who prefer otherwise, but i daresay 99% of people will falls into the 1st category...it just like some people think fat girls are sexy..with an exposed tummy with 3 spare tyres hanging out.....who here prefer this? tongue.gif (No offence to fat people, just an example, i am not very thin myself either).

As for audio, it really takes a golden ear and very fussy people to spot the detail...not to mentioned a high-end system with multitude of possible configurations.
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nowdays, all good plasmas are more or less the same if the source fed into the plasma is good quality.

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post Feb 20 2009, 10:39 PM

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QUOTE(mpyw @ Feb 20 2009, 12:32 PM)
and now add in the LED TV liao tongue.gif

don't fight lar...as long as u r happy with what you bought, then everything is ok no matter what other people say....
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Ya.... as long as one satisfies with what he / she buy wink.gif

The Pioneer sales mgr was at the shop this evening. He also rclxub.gif abt the next display panel that will be marketed.

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post Feb 20 2009, 11:19 PM

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QUOTE(michaeltan1943 @ Feb 20 2009, 10:21 PM)
ar188 really does not know the meaning of the words objective and subjective. He might be good in Video stuff but he definitely does not understand the meaning of the above two words.
thank gosh at least got some people agrees. rclxms.gif tongue.gif laugh.gif nod.gif
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post Feb 20 2009, 11:41 PM

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post Feb 21 2009, 02:50 AM

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after reading all this, my advice -
"if you hav the mu-lah, just get the best your mu-lah can buy.." Need to remember, good things dont come cheap.

and,
LCD is totally diff than Plasma - just choose which PQ u like most from the two camps (there are diff.!!)

then,
Then, once u decide it's going to be LCD/Plasma - demo 2/3 recommended model from this forum (trust ur eyes, bring ur own disc, lappy, etc.)

finally,
spend ur mu-lah, and enjoy ur set - chin up!! flex.gif
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post Feb 21 2009, 07:47 AM

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Pana 42PV80H is now at RM2999.00 (5 years warranty) in garage sales! thumbup.gif

if only 50PV80 drop somemore smile.gif
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post Feb 21 2009, 08:34 AM

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March, all the prices of lcd n plasma will drop about 20% to 30%..

Heard from vendors.....
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post Feb 21 2009, 08:48 AM

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buy buy buy!!!
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post Feb 21 2009, 08:57 AM

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QUOTE(lousycar @ Feb 21 2009, 08:34 AM)
March, all the prices of lcd n plasma will drop about 20% to 30%..

Heard from vendors.....
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Are you sure about this? If so, I will wait until March


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QUOTE(ycs @ Feb 21 2009, 07:47 AM)
Pana 42PV80H is now at RM2999.00 (5 years warranty) in garage sales!  thumbup.gif

if only 50PV80 drop somemore smile.gif
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I hear commontan selling that price too. She is very reliable I heard.

I am also waiting for the 50PV80 to drop but why does it not drop as fast as the 42 inch?

now the gap is too far, one RM3000 and the other RM5500. Nearly double. For a mere 8 inches, for double the price?




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post Feb 21 2009, 09:02 AM

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shd be true coz sales very bad now due to $$ tightening and new models coming .. smile.gif
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post Feb 21 2009, 09:24 AM

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spec is different also, one is 1024x768 and the other is 1366x768

if the 50 incher PV80 is like 4k then dem good!
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post Feb 21 2009, 10:19 AM

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QUOTE(deepan2004 @ Feb 21 2009, 09:57 AM)
Are you sure about this? If so, I will wait until March
after march, you will hear rumours about further price drop rolleyes.gif then wait. drop again. wait again.. and it goes on.

seriously.. if you are going to wait, you will have to wait forever. coz price will drop no matter what.

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just ordered a 42" Full HD lcd (OEM) . Did not plan to buy lcd tv yet buy since got too good of an offer Rm2000 with 2 years warranty (company kang tao) . The specs are not too good 8ms response..etc but it is full HD so I don't mind cheap and big...My current DVD player have only component video , should I use component video or change the dvd player to HDMI since my TV have 2 hdmi slots?. For astro should I get a branded S-video cable to improve the pic quality or just use normal composite cables?

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post Feb 22 2009, 12:30 AM

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2k for OEM 42 1080p is very good deal.. is this like that MBF LCD thingy?
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post Feb 22 2009, 12:35 AM

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One company ordered too much lcd's from the OEM and since orders dropped , selling cheap to employees.. something like that.

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