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Stock market V20, Bull mali mali..
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 Jan 13 2009, 03:23 PM, updated 17y ago
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Starting year of bull 2009!!
Previous version http://forum.lowyat.net/topic/867019/+2500 edited* a bull. This post has been edited by Vv.SoViEt.vV: Jan 13 2009, 03:36 PM |
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ah neh, milo ice satu!!
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resorts, wct, sapcres, prob afg .. faster coming down faster
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can buy IoIcOrP@3.82
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Wah.. today soo red.
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i wonder, if the stock collapse, wat happen to the penny share, as the prices are so low already in todie trading.
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Jan 13 2009, 03:29 PM
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Anybody going for WCT?
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QUOTE(sampoo @ Jan 13 2009, 03:28 PM) i wonder, if the stock collapse, wat happen to the penny share, as the prices are so low already in todie trading. you would make a few fold of money if market recover lor. one good example, look at the price on 29/10/08, and compare 2 months later. 1 fold is sap sap sui. |
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QUOTE(kmarc @ Jan 13 2009, 03:29 PM) Anybody going for WCT? tempted to go in .. but hope for more discount |
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Jan 13 2009, 03:39 PM
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QUOTE(mo_meng @ Jan 13 2009, 03:34 PM) tempted to go in .. but hope for more discount Yeah, looks like construction counters taking a beating now..... look at GAMUDA! Choosing between those two.... GAMUDA, WCT, GAMUDA, WCT, GAMUDA, WCT.....  |
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Jan 13 2009, 03:40 PM
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go go ioicorp!
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Jan 13 2009, 03:41 PM
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QUOTE(kinwawa @ Jan 13 2009, 03:40 PM) go go ioicorp! you mean, go up, or go down? p/s: wow Vv.SoViEt.vV, golden bull, me like!! This post has been edited by panasonic88: Jan 13 2009, 03:41 PM |
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Jan 13 2009, 03:42 PM
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gamuda is in my watching list as well but now the price is a bithigh lea so i targeting wct now
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Jan 13 2009, 03:42 PM
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I'm on buy queue for RESORTS, WCT and KNM
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Jan 13 2009, 03:42 PM
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QUOTE(kinwawa @ Jan 13 2009, 03:40 PM) go go ioicorp! IOI T/P rm 4.90. BUY AT YOUR OWN RISK. CHANCE OF LOSING MONEY IS HIGH.  This post has been edited by SKY 1809: Jan 13 2009, 09:30 PM Attached File(s) 
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Jan 13 2009, 03:43 PM
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bull on the drought? means bull within the bear?
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Jan 13 2009, 03:43 PM
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QUOTE(SKY 1809 @ Jan 13 2009, 03:42 PM) IOI T/P rm 4.90. high risk, high gain.BUY AT YOUR WON RISK. CHANCE OF LOSING MONEY IS HIGH. shit, life is tough!! This post has been edited by panasonic88: Jan 13 2009, 03:43 PM |
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Jan 13 2009, 03:44 PM
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QUOTE(cute_boboi @ Jan 13 2009, 03:42 PM) I'm on buy queue for RESORTS, WCT and KNM knm brave on v20 resorts .. i want to get it back when it reach 2.2 wct .. my taget below 1.1 |
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Jan 13 2009, 03:46 PM
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AIYO when is Najis going to instruct EPF and ValueCap to start pumping money into Sime and others?
I've got Rm50k in Sime-cg. Very risky with 0.14 avg. And now scared like shit. Hehehe. Should I get IOIcorp or should I wait? ALready sakit hati from not buying when i wanted to at 2.80. |
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Jan 13 2009, 03:47 PM
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QUOTE(sampoo @ Jan 13 2009, 03:28 PM) i wonder, if the stock collapse, wat happen to the penny share, as the prices are so low already in todie trading. It depends on individual stocks. may be can drop to 1 cents or 2 cents or 5 cents? haha, no offence. But those are very very high risk compared to a 10.00 stock, as those tiny little penny one, some may be 'ta pau' that's why they are trading at those price. A stock won't be too cheap if the company still making profit and able to withstand the recession risk. So low price doesn't necessary mean low risk. As you can lose all together in those kind of share. 1 cent stock, you buy 100,000 shares mean you spend 1K on it, company tak pau you lose 1K 10.00 stock you buy 100 shares at 1K, but even though the share drop to 8.00, you still have 800. You lose the same amount of money whether it is 10 cents or 10.00, because it is the amount/capital that you are keen to put into the stock which matter the most. You don't buy 100 shares in those 0.05 stock, right? |
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Jan 13 2009, 03:50 PM
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QUOTE(mo_meng @ Jan 13 2009, 03:44 PM) knm brave All your figures are my buy queue resorts .. i want to get it back when it reach 2.2 wct .. my taget below 1.1 WCT @1.000 (wait long long )RESORTS @2.200 KNM @ several prices averaging down. For short, medium & long term play, depending on price movement. |
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Jan 13 2009, 03:58 PM
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QUOTE(cute_boboi @ Jan 13 2009, 03:50 PM) All your figures are my buy queue I'll buy KNM when it hits 0.4 WCT @1.000 (wait long long )RESORTS @2.200 KNM @ several prices averaging down. For short, medium & long term play, depending on price movement.  |
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Jan 13 2009, 04:02 PM
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me too .. current price doesn't seem good for avg
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Jan 13 2009, 04:03 PM
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QUOTE(omores @ Jan 13 2009, 03:46 PM) AIYO when is Najis going to instruct EPF and ValueCap to start pumping money into Sime and others? SIME unchanged at 5.500.I've got Rm50k in Sime-cg. Very risky with 0.14 avg. And now scared like shit. Hehehe. Should I get IOIcorp or should I wait? ALready sakit hati from not buying when i wanted to at 2.80. SIME-CG dropped to 0.125. Hmm.. |
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Jan 13 2009, 04:08 PM
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crude oil at USD$36.80 now.
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Jan 13 2009, 04:09 PM
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SAPCRES-WA dropped 100% from as high as 0.140 last week to 0.070 today.
Hmm.. any idea? Is it due to maturity date coming soon? |
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Jan 13 2009, 04:13 PM
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QUOTE(Freelancer @ Jan 13 2009, 04:09 PM) SAPCRES-WA dropped 100% from as high as 0.140 last week to 0.070 today. maturity date on next month.Hmm.. any idea? Is it due to maturity date coming soon? |
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Jan 13 2009, 04:15 PM
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V20, yay! just come in to park my nick...
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Jan 13 2009, 04:17 PM
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Gulp...my KLK @ 9.75 matched.
officially a KLK shareholder now  will top up more after i get my bonus another week or so  |
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Jan 13 2009, 04:23 PM
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QUOTE(panasonic88 @ Jan 13 2009, 04:17 PM) Gulp...my KLK @ 9.75 matched. We are KLK gang now. Haha. officially a KLK shareholder now will top up more after i get my bonus another week or so We got plenty of gang in this forum, from Sapcres, KNM, YTLpower etc. |
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Jan 13 2009, 04:24 PM
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QUOTE(Freelancer @ Jan 13 2009, 04:09 PM) SAPCRES-WA dropped 100% from as high as 0.140 last week to 0.070 today. hehe dropped 100% = 0.000Hmm.. any idea? Is it due to maturity date coming soon? drop 50% = 0.07 |
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Jan 13 2009, 04:25 PM
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QUOTE(kmarc @ Jan 13 2009, 03:29 PM) Anybody going for WCT? Me into WCT too.Snapped some 20unit at 1.100 |
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Jan 13 2009, 04:25 PM
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QUOTE(cherroy @ Jan 13 2009, 04:23 PM) We are KLK gang now. Haha. gang is power.We got plenty of gang in this forum, from Sapcres, KNM, YTLpower etc. look at those rempits. okay i am off topic jor |
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Jan 13 2009, 04:32 PM
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Just want to ask is the Israel - Hamas war causing the drop in shares or making it higher?
It seems to be rallying the price during the starting of the war time. What would likely to happen (the market) once a cease fire occured? This post has been edited by AzerothJr: Jan 13 2009, 04:32 PM |
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Jan 13 2009, 04:32 PM
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Sime is actually pretty well supported, considering how it did not drop that much compared to other plantation stocks...
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Jan 13 2009, 04:32 PM
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well din purchase anything today patient for tml
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Jan 13 2009, 04:33 PM
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QUOTE(omores @ Jan 13 2009, 04:32 PM) Sime is actually pretty well supported, considering how it did not drop that much compared to other plantation stocks... i am monitoring SIME, too.yup, steady rock at 5.50 - 5.55. |
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Jan 13 2009, 04:34 PM
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KNM strong support at 0.480
Wondering whether all will suddenly disappear ? When ? |
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Jan 13 2009, 04:34 PM
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QUOTE(mo_meng @ Jan 13 2009, 04:24 PM) hehe dropped 100% = 0.000 Next month I think - 18.2.2009drop 50% = 0.07 |
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Jan 13 2009, 04:35 PM
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Never say tomorrow, the ship might leave without you already.
Be bold, "kan kan che". Die die also go once you think it hit your TP. Don't wait liao, else the more you wait the more you regret later cause miss the ship. (But guess if it drop futher then you will still think it might drop more then finally no buy even when bottoms) |
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Jan 13 2009, 04:36 PM
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QUOTE(kinwawa @ Jan 13 2009, 03:27 PM) can buy IoIcOrP@3.82 IOICORP dropped to 3.780 |
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Jan 13 2009, 04:37 PM
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QUOTE(AzerothJr @ Jan 13 2009, 04:35 PM) Never say tomorrow, the ship might leave without you already. make sense. buy on dip, sell on strength.Be bold, "kan kan che". Die die also go once you think it hit your TP. Don't wait liao, else the more you wait the more you regret later cause miss the ship. (But guess if it drop futher then you will still think it might drop more then finally no buy even when bottoms) |
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Jan 13 2009, 04:38 PM
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will it be 2.08 again??!!?
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Jan 13 2009, 04:39 PM
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it is good to see market volume is picking up.
yesterday CI closed at 500M volume. today almost reaching 500M as well. buy buy buy, we need ppl to support the market. gulp at my TWSCORP... |
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Jan 13 2009, 04:44 PM
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QUOTE(AzerothJr @ Jan 13 2009, 04:35 PM) Never say tomorrow, the ship might leave without you already. Ya man, thats what happened to me with Tanjong (then RM11, now Rm13.80), IOIcorp (then 2.80, now 3.80), Asiatic (then 2.80-2.90, now 4.04), YTL (Rm6, now 7.15) and ytlpowr (then 1.7something, now 1.90). I tot prices will drop so I bought the other 2 stocks out of my ultimate list which includes the above.Be bold, "kan kan che". Die die also go once you think it hit your TP. Don't wait liao, else the more you wait the more you regret later cause miss the ship. (But guess if it drop futher then you will still think it might drop more then finally no buy even when bottoms) So 'sim teah' as I have these stocks listed in my excel sheet under to buy only that I wanted to buy just 20 or more cents cheaper. So i lost that opportunity at 'laugh all the way to the bank' type of gains. |
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Jan 13 2009, 04:45 PM
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queuing GENTING at 3.7.. dun think can get tho..
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Jan 13 2009, 04:46 PM
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V20..
 KLSE getting weaker... CNY rally more like bear rally ady..  Looks like KLSE need finanacial stimulus injection soon to stay healthy. I just have my OSK membership renew today by my remiser. Didnt know its RM 60. Lucky its waived. Any1 here have OSK acct ? ================================================================= Dear Sir/Madam Thank you for subscribing with OSK188.com. Your OSK188 membership has been upgraded accordingly. Please refer to attached document for more details. Should you have any queries, please do not hesitate to contact our Customer Service at 03-23338510 or email to support@osk188.com Thank you. Yours faithfully, OSK188.com Team finexasia.com Sdn Bhd (516248-X) ( a subsidiary of OSK Holdings Berhad ) Level 14, Plaza OSK, Jalan Ampang, 50450 Kuala Lumpur. TEL : 03-2333 8333 FAX : 03-2175 3210 OR No : 001-0000014340Date : 13 Jan 2009 OFFICIAL RECEIPT Received with Thanks: XXXXXXX Username: viper88 For the sum of: RM 60 Payment Type: Waived Being payment of OSK188 Subscription Fees: RM 60 Bursa Fees: RM 0 Duration: 1yr 3 months Product Expiry Date 1) Realtime Equity Market Information 13 Apr 2009 finexasia.com Sdn Bhd This is a computer generated receipt. No signature is required. VALIDITY OF THIS RECEIPT IS SUBJECT TO BANK CLEARANCE ON CHEQUE ================================================================= This post has been edited by viper88: Jan 13 2009, 04:47 PM |
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Jan 13 2009, 04:53 PM
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Wah, so expensive. Under what circumstances that they waived it for you?
Hei Viper88, you 21 years old only is it? Abit off topic here. |
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Jan 13 2009, 04:54 PM
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viper88 is big customer. so he got it waived
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Jan 13 2009, 04:55 PM
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wah... RM60 ar? i just know last time I pay RM10 to start my account.. anyway.. not yet one year.. so i dunno whether they got charge or not..
but i think u are "BIG" player.. so they give u free.. and also.. mine market info is 15 seconds delay one.. because i m small player.. very small one..urs one realtime.. more fun |
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Jan 13 2009, 04:56 PM
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QUOTE(panasonic88 @ Jan 13 2009, 04:54 PM) viper88 is big customer. so he got it waived yea.. i think he is big player.. |
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21 years old? how i wish i am.
Wat age got to do with registration? QUOTE(AzerothJr @ Jan 13 2009, 04:53 PM) Wah, so expensive. Under what circumstances that they waived it for you? This post has been edited by viper88: Jan 13 2009, 05:04 PMHei Viper88, you 21 years old only is it? Abit off topic here. |
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88 = fatt fatt
i think that's his initial idea when he get himself a nick |
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Jan 13 2009, 05:02 PM
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RM 10 is for open OSK CDS acct only...
QUOTE(mememe12 @ Jan 13 2009, 04:55 PM) wah... RM60 ar? i just know last time I pay RM10 to start my account.. anyway.. not yet one year.. so i dunno whether they got charge or not.. but i think u are "BIG" player.. so they give u free.. and also.. mine market info is 15 seconds delay one.. because i m small player.. very small one..urs one realtime.. more fun |
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Jan 13 2009, 05:04 PM
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omg i feel so happy today because i gotten myself my 1st ever plantation stock!!!
only thing i feel not good enough is - i haven't buy enough!!! |
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Jan 13 2009, 05:04 PM
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LoL. Sorry asking because of your viper88 ID.
Thought it was referring to year 1988. But turnout it is those typical chinamen that likes "fatt fatt" Just kidding, no hard feelings. Sifu, give some tips bit? |
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Jan 13 2009, 05:06 PM
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means if i m small player.. then every year i need to pay RM60?
altho i dont get the realtime market info also? |
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Jan 13 2009, 05:07 PM
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QUOTE(panasonic88 @ Jan 13 2009, 06:04 PM) omg i feel so happy today because i gotten myself my 1st ever plantation stock!!! IOI? KLK?only thing i feel not good enough is - i haven't buy enough!!! |
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Jan 13 2009, 05:11 PM
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QUOTE(darkknight81 @ Jan 13 2009, 05:07 PM) IOI? KLK? Sime, asiatic?This post has been edited by AzerothJr: Jan 13 2009, 05:11 PM |
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QUOTE(darkknight81 @ Jan 13 2009, 05:07 PM) IOI? KLK? taikor, KLK. hehehe. |
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Jan 13 2009, 05:12 PM
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QUOTE(panasonic88 @ Jan 13 2009, 06:11 PM) taikor, KLK. hehehe. How much you bought it? KLK very generous in giving out dividend wor You know most of KLK plantations area located at where? Does flooding affect their plants? This post has been edited by darkknight81: Jan 13 2009, 05:13 PM |
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Jan 13 2009, 05:13 PM
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the feeling is like, i have found an awesome boyfriend, which can lend me his warm and big shoulder during thunderstorm and bad days
i am in love...  ...i think i siao liao. |
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Jan 13 2009, 05:14 PM
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QUOTE(panasonic88 @ Jan 13 2009, 06:13 PM) the feeling is like, i have found an awesome boyfriend, which can lend me his warm and big shoulder during thunderstorm and bad days i am in love... ...i think i siao liao. Seldom see female so into share one This post has been edited by darkknight81: Jan 13 2009, 05:15 PM |
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Jan 13 2009, 05:16 PM
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panasonic88 is a girl?
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Jan 13 2009, 05:17 PM
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Pana is a girl?
hmmm.. I thought its a he. Omg, she played share for 6yrs already and posted 16,000 times. This post has been edited by AzerothJr: Jan 13 2009, 05:19 PM |
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Jan 13 2009, 05:18 PM
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QUOTE(panasonic88 @ Jan 13 2009, 05:13 PM) the feeling is like, i have found an awesome boyfriend, which can lend me his warm and big shoulder during thunderstorm and bad days I thought only noobs get some weird feelings after buying stocks..... i am in love... ...i think i siao liao. Anyway, didn't do any mega shopping today, just average down my LCL...... gonna offload it if it goes above my ABP..... |
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Jan 13 2009, 05:21 PM
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QUOTE(panasonic88 @ Jan 13 2009, 05:13 PM) the feeling is like, i have found an awesome boyfriend, which can lend me his warm and big shoulder during thunderstorm and bad days i think a lot of ppl already ki siao at times like this i am in love... ...i think i siao liao. follow Master Cherroy sure 'mou zhao guai' one |
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QUOTE(panasonic88 @ Jan 13 2009, 05:13 PM) the feeling is like, i have found an awesome boyfriend, which can lend me his warm and big shoulder during thunderstorm and bad days Never fall in love with your stocks, some said...i am in love... ...i think i siao liao. |
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Jan 13 2009, 05:25 PM
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yea... u cant fall in love with those stocks that you bought.. u must know how to sell "him" when he is performing.. altho tat is very sad seeing him leaving u.. but then u can always buy him back.. if he under-perform again.. lol OT =.=''
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Jan 13 2009, 05:27 PM
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QUOTE(htt @ Jan 13 2009, 05:23 PM) Never fall in love with your stocks, some said... yah lor, i am reminding myself about that, once again.  |
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Jan 13 2009, 05:29 PM
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QUOTE(mememe12 @ Jan 13 2009, 05:25 PM) yea... u cant fall in love with those stocks that you bought.. u must know how to sell "him" when he is performing.. altho tat is very sad seeing him leaving u.. but then u can always buy him back.. if he under-perform again.. lol OT =.='' addon: this method doesn't apply on real boyfriend-girlfriend relationship. kakakakakakak!!! okay i am OT too |
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Jan 13 2009, 05:29 PM
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QUOTE(panasonic88 @ Jan 13 2009, 05:13 PM) the feeling is like, i have found an awesome boyfriend, which can lend me his warm and big shoulder during thunderstorm and bad days woi dont siao in my thread. i am in love... ...i think i siao liao. |
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Jan 13 2009, 05:29 PM
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All eye on Dow tonight. if Dow tank, we'll have more fun tommorow at KLSE. If Dow is up, those who bought today will be happy
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Jan 13 2009, 05:35 PM
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Small time trader need to pay RM 20 mthly if want to use OSK real time database and research..
if you want free go for basic member: Online Trading Services, Non-streaming (html) Bursa Malaysia Prices, Non-streaming (html) Order Status, Stock Alerts, Research, News and Forum If you trade often you can go for this membership upgrade. http://www.osk188.com/page.jsp?name=npTradingMember ================================= Entitlement for OSK188 Free Premium Services OSK Investment Bank Berhad Online Trading Member For every RM20,000 trades transacted (via oral, electronic or any other permissible communication means), you will be entitled to ONE month free Premium Realtime Equity Market Info. If you would like to experience the power of our online investment tools, click HERE to Sign Up now! ================================= QUOTE(mememe12 @ Jan 13 2009, 05:06 PM) means if i m small player.. then every year i need to pay RM60? altho i dont get the realtime market info also? |
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Jan 13 2009, 05:35 PM
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i thought our market never/seldom follow dow..
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Jan 13 2009, 05:37 PM
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Ya.. tats what our Pm says last year.
QUOTE(yeeeeko @ Jan 13 2009, 05:35 PM) i thought our market never/seldom follow dow.. |
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Jan 13 2009, 05:38 PM
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QUOTE(viper88 @ Jan 13 2009, 05:35 PM) Small time trader need to pay RM 20 mthly if want to use OSK real time database and research.. thanks for ur info.. i guess i wont get realtime market info.. as my turnover wont reach RM20000... at the moment if you want free go for basic member: Online Trading Services, Non-streaming (html) Bursa Malaysia Prices, Non-streaming (html) Order Status, Stock Alerts, Research, News and Forum If you trade often you can go for this membership upgrade. http://www.osk188.com/page.jsp?name=npTradingMember ================================= Entitlement for OSK188 Free Premium Services OSK Investment Bank Berhad Online Trading Member For every RM20,000 trades transacted (via oral, electronic or any other permissible communication means), you will be entitled to ONE month free Premium Realtime Equity Market Info. If you would like to experience the power of our online investment tools, click HERE to Sign Up now! ================================= |
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Jan 13 2009, 06:11 PM
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Pana, I thought last time you bought Kulim right? Kulim not plantation counter meh?
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Jan 13 2009, 07:16 PM
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QUOTE(darkknight81 @ Jan 13 2009, 05:14 PM) Seldom see female so into share one  ,usually play secretly behind boyfriend or husband one! |
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Jan 13 2009, 08:05 PM
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QUOTE(skiddtrader @ Jan 13 2009, 06:11 PM) Pana, I thought last time you bought Kulim right? Kulim not plantation counter meh? KULIM, buy 7.20, sold 7.90.and it gone all the way up to 9.00...before the crude oil bubble burst  QUOTE(sharesa @ Jan 13 2009, 07:16 PM) don't look down on females , man wei, that one sounds like aunty!! ,usually play secretly behind boyfriend or husband one! i am a young chick, okie |
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Jan 13 2009, 08:12 PM
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QUOTE(panasonic88 @ Jan 13 2009, 08:05 PM) KULIM, buy 7.20, sold 7.90. young fat chick? and it gone all the way up to 9.00...before the crude oil bubble burst wei, that one sounds like aunty!! i am a young chick, okie |
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Jan 13 2009, 08:16 PM
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QUOTE(gogo2 @ Jan 13 2009, 08:12 PM) young fat chick? you have a fetish for fat chicks huh omg omg omg omg!!! |
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Jan 13 2009, 08:22 PM
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QUOTE(panasonic88 @ Jan 13 2009, 08:16 PM) you have a fetish for fat chicks huh omg omg omg omg!!! |
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Jan 13 2009, 08:30 PM
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Dow future still red hope tml CI red red again haha
if CI red LYN here more active |
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Jan 13 2009, 08:47 PM
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indeed, more red
i waiting to go in ..looking at IOICorp, YTLPower, Axreit, Sime, PBBank. |
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Jan 13 2009, 09:05 PM
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yeah yeah yeah, i havent finish attacking KLK yet!!!
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Jan 13 2009, 09:12 PM
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QUOTE(mememe12 @ Jan 13 2009, 05:25 PM) yea... u cant fall in love with those stocks that you bought.. u must know how to sell "him" when he is performing.. altho tat is very sad seeing him leaving u.. but then u can always buy him back.. if he under-perform again.. lol OT =.='' Or summarise should be like thisYou fall in love him when he got plenty of $$ to feed you (i.e. company make tons of profit and give you as dividend), then when he cannot feed you time, dump him, search a new rich boyfriend. Hehe. |
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Jan 13 2009, 09:16 PM
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QUOTE(ante5k @ Jan 13 2009, 08:47 PM) indeed, more red also nice counter .. but the price is far from my target i waiting to go in ..looking at IOICorp, YTLPower, Axreit, Sime, PBBank. pbbank .. Sell Malaysian bank stocks: Citigroup http://www.btimes.com.my/Current_News/BTIM...icle/index_html Added on January 13, 2009, 9:17 pm QUOTE(cherroy @ Jan 13 2009, 09:12 PM) Or summarise should be like this wow suck till it dry than throw it awayYou fall in love him when he got plenty of $$ to feed you (i.e. company make tons of profit and give you as dividend), then when he cannot feed you time, dump him, search a new rich boyfriend. Hehe. This post has been edited by mo_meng: Jan 13 2009, 09:17 PM |
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Jan 13 2009, 09:27 PM
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QUOTE(mo_meng @ Jan 13 2009, 09:16 PM) also nice counter .. but the price is far from my target anyone know y jaks is quite high volume today? any news about jaks?pbbank .. Sell Malaysian bank stocks: Citigroup http://www.btimes.com.my/Current_News/BTIM...icle/index_html Added on January 13, 2009, 9:17 pm wow suck till it dry than throw it away |
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Jan 13 2009, 09:29 PM
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QUOTE(cherroy @ Jan 13 2009, 10:12 PM) Or summarise should be like this You fall in love him when he got plenty of $$ to feed you (i.e. company make tons of profit and give you as dividend), then when he cannot feed you time, dump him, search a new rich boyfriend. Hehe. Sounds cruel but it is what we should do |
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Jan 13 2009, 09:37 PM
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Hello ,
im new in here . anyone in here is a day trader ? any how wanna to know how you guy play with day trade . cause is hard to get a good counter to play with for each day . if find one is hard also to line up to get a good price. hope for more info |
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Jan 13 2009, 09:37 PM
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QUOTE(cherroy @ Jan 13 2009, 09:12 PM) Or summarise should be like this is this the way you teach your daughter when she bring her bf to show you? You fall in love him when he got plenty of $$ to feed you (i.e. company make tons of profit and give you as dividend), then when he cannot feed you time, dump him, search a new rich boyfriend. Hehe. |
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Jan 13 2009, 09:53 PM
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QUOTE(panasonic88 @ Jan 13 2009, 09:37 PM) is this the way you teach your daughter when she bring her bf to show you? Walau, I look so old meh?   |
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Jan 13 2009, 09:54 PM
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whoppss!
(faster run away!!!) |
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Jan 13 2009, 09:55 PM
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European market is RED. DJIA future also RED.
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Jan 13 2009, 10:10 PM
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QUOTE(David83 @ Jan 13 2009, 09:55 PM) European market is RED. DJIA future also RED. nais... |
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Jan 13 2009, 10:12 PM
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DJIA futures is reversing ... from -100 to -15 only now
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Jan 13 2009, 10:13 PM
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QUOTE(chilaxis @ Jan 13 2009, 10:12 PM) DJIA futures is reversing ... from -100 to -15 only now oh dang... |
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Jan 13 2009, 10:15 PM
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But today so many bleak earnings report to come... DJ most likely to go down, unless the previous 4 days' losses already priced in the sentiments.
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Jan 13 2009, 10:18 PM
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QUOTE(chilaxis @ Jan 13 2009, 10:15 PM) But today so many bleak earnings report to come... DJ most likely to go down, unless the previous 4 days' losses already priced in the sentiments. already price in. The Dow will drop if its bleaker than expected. But if its just bleak, tomolo KLCI willshoot to 1k. |
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Jan 13 2009, 10:33 PM
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DJIA opens with: 8,439.96 -34.01 -0.40%
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Jan 13 2009, 10:52 PM
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QUOTE(cherroy @ Jan 13 2009, 09:12 PM) Or summarise should be like this You really know how the female mind works..... You fall in love him when he got plenty of $$ to feed you (i.e. company make tons of profit and give you as dividend), then when he cannot feed you time, dump him, search a new rich boyfriend. Hehe.  Added on January 13, 2009, 11:03 pm QUOTE(panasonic88 @ Jan 13 2009, 08:05 PM) KULIM, buy 7.20, sold 7.90. Even young chick also should play-play behind a bit, come, let Aunty teach you...... and it gone all the way up to 9.00...before the crude oil bubble burst wei, that one sounds like aunty!! i am a young chick, okie Females shouldn't be too open about their bank account. What is yours is yours, what is his is also yours Veering back to topic, Dow is up 23 points. This post has been edited by sharesa: Jan 13 2009, 11:03 PM |
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Jan 13 2009, 11:08 PM
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thinking CI will stay around this figure or maybe rally untill cny
so might be good to play some short term or contra .. hmm WCT |
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Jan 13 2009, 11:10 PM
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Aiyoh, dow needs to be on red "ang ang" so we can get more ang pow during CNY later.
Me is a young guy over here. Added on January 13, 2009, 11:12 pm QUOTE(mo_meng @ Jan 13 2009, 11:08 PM) thinking CI will stay around this figure or maybe rally untill cny Hi Wuming,so might be good to play some short term or contra .. hmm WCT You think WCT can play contra? Lets share share abit. This post has been edited by AzerothJr: Jan 13 2009, 11:12 PM |
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Jan 13 2009, 11:19 PM
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sure almost young guy here .. all aunty and uncle no time online post thing here coz they will be busy during day trading sitting infront of the index board haha
Added on January 13, 2009, 11:35 pmWCT hv a support at 1.1 and it has dropped alot lately and if any big players or big fun managers come into play this counter will shoot up very fast .. and if somehow the market preventing u to play contra this counter actually also good to hold for long term esp they hv strong shareholders just my 2 sen This post has been edited by mo_meng: Jan 13 2009, 11:35 PM |
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Jan 13 2009, 11:38 PM
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no fun anymore. confirm tomolo KLCI go to 1k.
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Jan 14 2009, 12:17 AM
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QUOTE(cherroy @ Jan 13 2009, 09:53 PM) Walau, I look so old meh? I guess u r in late 30s. |
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Jan 14 2009, 12:33 AM
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QUOTE(gogo2 @ Jan 13 2009, 11:38 PM) no fun anymore. confirm tomolo KLCI go to 1k. Why you said so ? |
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Jan 14 2009, 12:38 AM
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QUOTE(cherroy @ Jan 13 2009, 03:47 PM) It depends on individual stocks. U did mention this point quite a lot of time. try not to buy cheap stock or penny stock get strong fundamental stock, and this time u given a good example. In my opinion this is not necessarily, because for me this 1 work well with long term investment, for short term still prefer penny share as penny share got lots of trader and price is volatile and may be able to do intraday trade or contra gain. may be can drop to 1 cents or 2 cents or 5 cents? haha, no offence. But those are very very high risk compared to a 10.00 stock, as those tiny little penny one, some may be 'ta pau' that's why they are trading at those price. A stock won't be too cheap if the company still making profit and able to withstand the recession risk. So low price doesn't necessary mean low risk. As you can lose all together in those kind of share. 1 cent stock, you buy 100,000 shares mean you spend 1K on it, company tak pau you lose 1K 10.00 stock you buy 100 shares at 1K, but even though the share drop to 8.00, you still have 800. You lose the same amount of money whether it is 10 cents or 10.00, because it is the amount/capital that you are keen to put into the stock which matter the most. You don't buy 100 shares in those 0.05 stock, right? For example share price less than 0.50 capital investment of 5K when price up few cent already gain few hundred. if 10k above earn gain few K. Meanwhile for share price at rm 10 and above with capital investment of 5K u need time to break even. Actually it does make different though, because time had change nowadays they are lots of young trader with small capital investment but want to try to trade in stock market. so in my point of view small trader go for penny stock because they want to earn fast money compare those rm 10++ stock take some time, and not because they buy penny share due to cheap price. just my 2 cent |
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Jan 14 2009, 07:04 AM
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5th day of dropping edy.
i guess is about time to pick up again. DJIA : 8,448.56 Down 25.41 (0.30%) |
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Jan 14 2009, 08:08 AM
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QUOTE(gogo2 @ Jan 14 2009, 12:38 AM) no fun anymore. confirm tomolo KLCI go to 1k. Lol i confirm KLCI cannot break throught 940 barrier this week |
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Jan 14 2009, 09:21 AM
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I think most of the big fish are still sleeping. Why like no movement at all???
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Jan 14 2009, 09:58 AM
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lowyat.net not much business today. working in online casino very boring.
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Jan 14 2009, 10:08 AM
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Anyway guys, What about the E&O ... it seems like climbing bit by bit...compare to the rest of the counter ... (sort of a promising counter afterall) but i didnt actually manage to get any of it.. Any news regarding its bullish quater?
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Jan 14 2009, 10:14 AM
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QUOTE(chyaw @ Jan 14 2009, 09:21 AM) I think most of the big fish are still sleeping. Why like no movement at all??? More like those big fish just swim to breed at pacific ocean and will only be back when the whether aren't so stormy. |
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Jan 14 2009, 10:16 AM
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remember the patent is repeating, observe the patent from 15th dec 08 - 31 dec 08, the patent i think is apply in the coming days. ::
tat mean it will be at least 1 short rally after the bear. This post has been edited by sampoo: Jan 14 2009, 10:29 AM |
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Jan 14 2009, 10:19 AM
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buyer & seller having a tough fight in KNM
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Jan 14 2009, 10:22 AM
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QUOTE(kingkong81 @ Jan 14 2009, 10:19 AM) buyer & seller having a tough fight in KNM Matched again @0.480 picking up little by little. |
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Jan 14 2009, 10:33 AM
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QUOTE(cute_boboi @ Jan 14 2009, 10:22 AM) Matched again @0.480 How many units you bought? picking up little by little. |
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Jan 14 2009, 10:43 AM
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5000 units @0.480 only. Saving bullets if it drops some more.
Collecting KNM like collecting stamps |
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Jan 14 2009, 10:43 AM
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same goes to CI.
hovering between red & green zone. |
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Jan 14 2009, 10:54 AM
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Ah...
It's soo damn boring. Can see cannot touch. Can see, but not attractive to buy or sell.  |
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Jan 14 2009, 11:05 AM
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where are the forummers? Busy making money at Bursa eh?
this forum has became quite again.. |
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Jan 14 2009, 11:09 AM
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QUOTE(verbatim @ Jan 14 2009, 12:05 PM) where are the forummers? Busy making money at Bursa eh? ya lah should not change the versi so fast, the brain is blank. no topics.this forum has became quite again.. |
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Jan 14 2009, 11:10 AM
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QUOTE(aoisky @ Jan 14 2009, 12:38 AM) U did mention this point quite a lot of time. try not to buy cheap stock or penny stock get strong fundamental stock, and this time u given a good example. In my opinion this is not necessarily, because for me this 1 work well with long term investment, for short term still prefer penny share as penny share got lots of trader and price is volatile and may be able to do intraday trade or contra gain. Fair enough. For example share price less than 0.50 capital investment of 5K when price up few cent already gain few hundred. if 10k above earn gain few K. Meanwhile for share price at rm 10 and above with capital investment of 5K u need time to break even. Actually it does make different though, because time had change nowadays they are lots of young trader with small capital investment but want to try to trade in stock market. so in my point of view small trader go for penny stock because they want to earn fast money compare those rm 10++ stock take some time, and not because they buy penny share due to cheap price. just my 2 cent Just try to remind people about buying stock not for the sake of looking the price only and risk of those stocks involved, not all stocks are the same even they are penny. There is nothing wrong to go for penny stock and I am not against penny stock, especially for trade and speculation purposes. Everyone has his/her own preference and risk appetide, there is no such thing definite right or wrong in the market. |
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Jan 14 2009, 11:14 AM
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penny stock or not, important is look at volume. Buy stock that have high volume to day trade. If low volume, can hold for long
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Jan 14 2009, 11:14 AM
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I'm gambling small small on Resort-CH for CNY mood~
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Jan 14 2009, 11:17 AM
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me oso tot of cincai pick one to gamble, chosen TWSCORP.
now i kena tabao jor, crap |
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Jan 14 2009, 11:18 AM
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QUOTE(gogo2 @ Jan 14 2009, 11:14 AM) penny stock or not, important is look at volume. Buy stock that have high volume to day trade. If low volume, can hold for long Just to add a point, one needs to look at the total amount of trade as well ie. volume x share price.If a stock is 0.20, then 1 millions of volume is seemed small only, as 200K already can 'goreng' up this stock. Because most people won't buy/sell with 10 or 20 lot in those kind of low penny stock. Another consideration is the liquidity of the stock as well, if liquidity of the stock is low, then those 200K volume may be can sustain the rise, but if the liquidity is high, then the volume is insignificant. |
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Jan 14 2009, 11:19 AM
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QUOTE(panasonic88 @ Jan 14 2009, 11:17 AM) me oso tot of cincai pick one to gamble, chosen TWSCORP. ei....u forgot u r not the 'punter' type ar.....'we' shd have learnt our lesson now i kena tabao jor, crap tat's y i'm zzzzz-ing lately hahahaha |
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Jan 14 2009, 11:20 AM
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lesson lesson lesson, why i never learn!!!
now gonna face my penalty jor. geez. |
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Jan 14 2009, 11:24 AM
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QUOTE(panasonic88 @ Jan 14 2009, 12:20 PM) lesson lesson lesson, why i never learn!!! Target 2 - 3 good counter . Accumulate everytime on dip. Look boring but quite safe now gonna face my penalty jor. geez. |
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Jan 14 2009, 11:24 AM
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just for sharing, EPF had just dump some small shares of Zelan off.. to distract the investors maybe?
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Jan 14 2009, 11:26 AM
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QUOTE(panasonic88 @ Jan 14 2009, 11:20 AM) lesson lesson lesson, why i never learn!!! my opinion is we should punt on the stocks that we know/familiar of especially the ones that we are still holding on. Sometimes the stock that you hold do have its run-ups , right? so I believe that is the time to have a bet.now gonna face my penalty jor. geez. Even if the bet fails, at least we still can average down the price.(provided bought at a lower price) |
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Jan 14 2009, 11:27 AM
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QUOTE(darkknight81 @ Jan 14 2009, 11:24 AM) Target 2 - 3 good counter . Accumulate everytime on dip. Look boring but quite safe that's a good tactic.  QUOTE(haksam @ Jan 14 2009, 11:24 AM) just for sharing, EPF had just dump some small shares of Zelan off.. to distract the investors maybe? yah i saw that announcement too.not following ZELAN. maybe viper88 knows more. |
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Jan 14 2009, 11:28 AM
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QUOTE(sharesa @ Jan 14 2009, 11:26 AM) my opinion is we should punt on the stocks that we know/familiar of especially the ones that we are still holding on. Sometimes the stock that you hold do have its run-ups , right? so I believe that is the time to have a bet. noted that sharesa. aww licking my own wounds now.Even if the bet fails, at least we still can average down the price.(provided bought at a lower price) |
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Jan 14 2009, 11:30 AM
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Beliv or not currently i am holding only one single counter thats ytl power. Bought few months back during the IPP ISSUES at RM 1.84. Have reciv one bonus share issue and twice dividend already which give me return of about 7% already and capital appreciation some more.
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Jan 14 2009, 11:31 AM
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QUOTE(darkknight81 @ Jan 14 2009, 11:30 AM) Beliv or not currently i am holding only one single counter thats ytl power. Bought few months back during the IPP ISSUES at RM 1.84. Have reciv one bonus share issue and twice dividend already. NOT BELIEVE.you still have AXREIT |
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Jan 14 2009, 11:32 AM
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QUOTE(panasonic88 @ Jan 14 2009, 12:31 PM) NOT BELIEVE. Lol. Bought axreit at RM 1.00 but sell off all at RM 1.20 as i cannot buy somemore at that price. so i sell off all. Wait for the next dip to buy more axreit.you still have AXREIT This post has been edited by darkknight81: Jan 14 2009, 11:32 AM |
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Jan 14 2009, 11:34 AM
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QUOTE(darkknight81 @ Jan 14 2009, 11:32 AM) Lol. Bought axreit at RM 1.00 but sell off all at RM 1.20 as i cannot buy somemore at that price. so i sell off all. Wait for the next dip to buy more axreit.  oh, i see. get your own DPU first before they pay you. not bad what, hehe! |
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Jan 14 2009, 11:37 AM
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I think today only you and me is buying Resort-CH. So low volume...
QUOTE(haksam @ Jan 14 2009, 11:14 AM) I'm gambling small small on Resort-CH for CNY mood~ |
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Jan 14 2009, 11:44 AM
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QUOTE(panasonic88 @ Jan 14 2009, 11:17 AM) me oso tot of cincai pick one to gamble, chosen TWSCORP. TWSCORP goes up in the morning ma.now i kena tabao jor, crap At least you still have some hopes there. Its not a lost yet. |
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Jan 14 2009, 11:45 AM
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QUOTE(AzerothJr @ Jan 14 2009, 11:44 AM) TWSCORP goes up in the morning ma. yeah blame on my greediness.At least you still have some hopes there. Its not a lost yet. when go up, dun wan to sell |
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Jan 14 2009, 11:47 AM
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i felt the rally is coming around the corner soon. Prepared!!!
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Jan 14 2009, 11:47 AM
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QUOTE(panasonic88 @ Jan 14 2009, 11:45 AM) yeah blame on my greediness. Don't knock yourself about it. It happens to everyone. when go up, dun wan to sell Added on January 14, 2009, 11:48 am QUOTE(sampoo @ Jan 14 2009, 11:47 AM) i felt the rally is coming around the corner soon. Prepared!!! I hope so lor sampoo. Got 4 counters to dispose off.Added on January 14, 2009, 11:51 amIs it me or my eyes but I see a lot of queues for knm. 3 times more than units q'd to be sold. Yay. Cheong Cheong! Come on. need some excitement. This post has been edited by omores: Jan 14 2009, 11:51 AM |
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Jan 14 2009, 11:56 AM
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aww you guys words can really make me feel peace
thanks but i have made the worst planning. gulp. |
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Jan 14 2009, 11:58 AM
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QUOTE(chyaw @ Jan 14 2009, 11:37 AM) I think today only you and me is buying Resort-CH. So low volume... Same as Resorts-CI. Bought many CH & CI yesterday.Today low volume as Resorts is climbing slowly. |
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Jan 14 2009, 11:59 AM
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You know my biggest mistake is buying UT..... LUCKILY manage to pull out all my UT earlier last year which cause me to lost about RM 7K.....
If i din sold all my UT i will be losing more than 30k this year Luckily manage to recover my losses by trading tenaga maybank .... |
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Jan 14 2009, 12:12 PM
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QUOTE(darkknight81 @ Jan 14 2009, 11:59 AM) You know my biggest mistake is buying UT..... LUCKILY manage to pull out all my UT earlier last year which cause me to lost about RM 7K..... hmmm....personal opinion...UT r meant for long term rite (at least 3 yrs???)....if u plan to buy for short term...u r already making a mistake in buying UT in the 1st place...just my personal view If i din sold all my UT i will be losing more than 30k this year Luckily manage to recover my losses by trading tenaga maybank .... |
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Jan 14 2009, 12:17 PM
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QUOTE(kinwawa @ Jan 14 2009, 01:12 PM) hmmm....personal opinion...UT r meant for long term rite (at least 3 yrs???)....if u plan to buy for short term...u r already making a mistake in buying UT in the 1st place...just my personal view The more i find out about UT the faster i wanted to sell off my UT. I prefer spending my free time doing my own research on my own stock pick instead of paying the fee to the fund manager. My return for 2008 on trading is about 30% which is better than UT which is in red currently... Some UT the longer you hold the more losses you have. Some ppl may still losing 50% of their UT investment if they bought at 1997.UT are for those who really lazy to spend their spare times on doing some simple reasearch....Who said doing investment you must diversify ? All is lie one lol.... What i think is picking up 2 -3 good stocks is more than enuff. This post has been edited by darkknight81: Jan 14 2009, 12:23 PM |
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Jan 14 2009, 12:32 PM
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mmc shoot up dee... 1.2~ offload all in the last rally, didn't buy in again :/
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Jan 14 2009, 12:35 PM
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UT also can help u gain 30% .. if market goes up hehe
but i do agree with you .. im still holdong my UT .. think still -40% now .. no eyes to c liao diversify .. i alsoc an diversify when playing stock .. some more no need to pay so much feesnow concentrate on stock also .. tempted riding on pantech .. but seem risky |
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Jan 14 2009, 12:43 PM
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QUOTE(mo_meng @ Jan 14 2009, 01:35 PM) UT also can help u gain 30% .. if market goes up hehe Yup during bull market can earn. I earn from my old fund and after swithching to new fund the market start to slowdown.... Becos it is too diversify during bear market you have no chance to earn profit.... Whereas stock you still have chance.but i do agree with you .. im still holdong my UT .. think still -40% now .. no eyes to c liao diversify .. i alsoc an diversify when playing stock .. some more no need to pay so much feesnow concentrate on stock also .. tempted riding on pantech .. but seem risky Looking for some cheap stock like weida, melewar, knm huaan now.... want to buy some maybe 20 - 30 lots for fun. This post has been edited by darkknight81: Jan 14 2009, 12:45 PM |
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Jan 14 2009, 12:45 PM
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QUOTE(eltaria @ Jan 14 2009, 12:32 PM) mmc shoot up dee... 1.2~ offload all in the last rally, didn't buy in again :/ aww you're so lucky. luck wasnt by my side this time T_T |
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Jan 14 2009, 12:51 PM
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QUOTE(darkknight81 @ Jan 14 2009, 12:43 PM) Yup during bull market can earn. I earn from my old fund and after swithching to new fund the market start to slowdown.... Becos it is too diversify during bear market you have no chance to earn profit.... Whereas stock you still have chance. hehe 1 lot = 1000 shares for u rite?Looking for some cheap stock like weida, melewar, knm huaan now.... want to buy some maybe 20 - 30 lots for fun. from ur list im watching on huaan only now |
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Jan 14 2009, 12:53 PM
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stock noob here. Huaan worth buying now? good potential?
QUOTE(mo_meng @ Jan 14 2009, 12:51 PM) hehe 1 lot = 1000 shares for u rite? from ur list im watching on huaan only now |
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Jan 14 2009, 12:56 PM
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QUOTE(darkknight81 @ Jan 14 2009, 12:17 PM) The more i find out about UT the faster i wanted to sell off my UT. I prefer spending my free time doing my own research on my own stock pick instead of paying the fee to the fund manager. My return for 2008 on trading is about 30% which is better than UT which is in red currently... Some UT the longer you hold the more losses you have. Some ppl may still losing 50% of their UT investment if they bought at 1997. Diversify or too diversify means you are following the market average, you can't outperform the market. UT are for those who really lazy to spend their spare times on doing some simple reasearch....Who said doing investment you must diversify ? All is lie one lol.... What i think is picking up 2 -3 good stocks is more than enuff. Yup, sometimes picking a few might be enough already, as too diversify means drag down those good one. If good stocks are doing badly, then those poorly fundamental one generally won't be better than them. The one I don't like UT is that no matter they are making profit or loss, they are earning the same amount of service fee and charging the same management fee annual. So even though market moving nowhere, they still getting 1.5% annually from you, or even the fund is performing very poor and bad decision has been made, they are still charging you the 1.5% annually. Don't get me wrong, I am not against UT, in fact UT is good for those non-investment savy person or having no time to follow the market or etc reason, which might be suit to particular individual. Just speak out my opinion. FYI, I did invest UT before, and made some good gain out of it, (around 30+%). |
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Jan 14 2009, 01:11 PM
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QUOTE(cherroy @ Jan 14 2009, 11:18 AM) Just to add a point, one needs to look at the total amount of trade as well ie. volume x share price. Very good point - Im still sitting on my Favco stock. Hardly any trade every day.If a stock is 0.20, then 1 millions of volume is seemed small only, as 200K already can 'goreng' up this stock. Because most people won't buy/sell with 10 or 20 lot in those kind of low penny stock. Another consideration is the liquidity of the stock as well, if liquidity of the stock is low, then those 200K volume may be can sustain the rise, but if the liquidity is high, then the volume is insignificant. |
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Jan 14 2009, 01:16 PM
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DF still green .. crude 38
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Jan 14 2009, 01:16 PM
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QUOTE(mo_meng @ Jan 14 2009, 01:51 PM) hehe 1 lot = 1000 shares for u rite? nop 100 shares from ur list im watching on huaan only now lol play for fun nia. Cannot put too much ler later cannot sleep Maximum also 2 - 3k only cannot afford to rugiThis post has been edited by darkknight81: Jan 14 2009, 01:20 PM |
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Jan 14 2009, 01:20 PM
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haha few hundreds to play with .. why dont go for resorts-ci?
Added on January 14, 2009, 1:21 pm QUOTE(darkknight81 @ Jan 14 2009, 01:16 PM) nop 100 shares haha u cannot afford to lose 1 sen .. if drop i will just hold unless delisted bankrupt haha lol play for fun nia. Cannot put too much ler later cannot sleep Maximum also 2 - 3k only cannot afford to rugiThis post has been edited by mo_meng: Jan 14 2009, 01:21 PM |
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Jan 14 2009, 01:23 PM
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QUOTE(mo_meng @ Jan 14 2009, 02:20 PM) haha few hundreds to play with .. why dont go for resorts-ci? Resorts CI is what ? warrant or call warrant? When expire? Added on January 14, 2009, 1:21 pm haha u cannot afford to lose 1 sen .. if drop i will just hold unless delisted bankrupt haha I will invest my money unless i really see future on that counter and can give me some bonus every year. Invest and trading is two different thing for me. Trading is more like gambling, i like to gamble but must not greedy must know how much you afford to lose. For me i am afford to lose 1 - 2k . This post has been edited by darkknight81: Jan 14 2009, 01:25 PM |
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Jan 14 2009, 01:26 PM
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Sorry me noob. Never play with CI or warrant before.
I know this question had been answer 234345 times already. But can i ask what happens if I bought a CI or WA and it expires? Do i lose everything? What is the usual trend when CI or WA near expiring? |
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Jan 14 2009, 01:27 PM
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QUOTE(AzerothJr @ Jan 14 2009, 02:26 PM) Sorry me noob. Never play with CI or warrant before. If expire you lose everything I know this question had been answer 234345 times already. But can i ask what happens if I bought a CI or WA and it expires? Do i lose everything? What is the usual trend when CI or WA near expiring? Logically should be going down if near to expire but got to see also.This post has been edited by darkknight81: Jan 14 2009, 01:27 PM |
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Jan 14 2009, 01:31 PM
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call .. 14/8/2009
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Jan 14 2009, 01:33 PM
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QUOTE(mo_meng @ Jan 14 2009, 01:31 PM) call .. 14/8/2009 Still quite a long time to expiry date. |
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Jan 14 2009, 01:35 PM
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yup just launch not long ago
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Jan 14 2009, 01:38 PM
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QUOTE(eltaria @ Jan 14 2009, 12:32 PM) mmc shoot up dee... 1.2~ offload all in the last rally, didn't buy in again :/ aww dun wan to hold anymore? I'm still holding my peanuts @ RM1.01 since i dun have any buying potential at the moment, might just sit back and watch it's wave everyday... btw, i still think there more north potential by observing it's wave throughout the week~ |
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Jan 14 2009, 01:42 PM
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What is the difference between resort CH and CI?
BOTH ALSO issue by third parties right? This post has been edited by darkknight81: Jan 14 2009, 01:42 PM |
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Jan 14 2009, 01:42 PM
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QUOTE(darkknight81 @ Jan 14 2009, 01:42 PM) What is the difference between resort CH and CI? Different exercise date and strike price I guess. |
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Jan 14 2009, 01:43 PM
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exercise price and expiry date~
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Jan 14 2009, 01:44 PM
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3rd party issue warrant cannot convert to mother share one ler
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Jan 14 2009, 01:45 PM
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QUOTE(darkknight81 @ Jan 14 2009, 01:44 PM) 3rd party issue warrant cannot convert to mother share one ler exactly. so basically is like, gambling lor.biggest winner is the investment houses!!! |
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Jan 14 2009, 01:46 PM
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i thought call warrant is definitely not from company
Added on January 14, 2009, 1:46 pmya lo .. this is for gambling ma .. This post has been edited by mo_meng: Jan 14 2009, 01:46 PM |
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Jan 14 2009, 01:48 PM
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QUOTE(panasonic88 @ Jan 14 2009, 02:45 PM) exactly. so basically is like, gambling lor. Yup.... after thinking still no balls to go into it biggest winner is the investment houses!!! ....If you ask me to buy 100 lots of axreit or ytl power i will not hesitate much ... if you ask me to buy 10 lots of CH or CI.... i think got to consider 1 month |
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Jan 14 2009, 01:48 PM
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small knife cut big tree
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Jan 14 2009, 01:51 PM
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btw...anybody using CIMB online to trade ar?? Really 0 charge one ar??? never used online b4
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Jan 14 2009, 02:08 PM
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QUOTE(kinwawa @ Jan 14 2009, 01:51 PM) btw...anybody using CIMB online to trade ar?? Really 0 charge one ar??? never used online b4 Free until Mar 2009. After that, what is the charges ? Will it be higher or lower or normal standard rate ? |
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Jan 14 2009, 02:10 PM
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axreit long q to buy @1.18 .. neo sapu izit haha
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Jan 14 2009, 02:14 PM
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So right now any thing that we can pickup from the market?
Any prospective buy at your own risk CI or WA that the sifu here can propose? |
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Jan 14 2009, 02:16 PM
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QUOTE(mo_meng @ Jan 14 2009, 02:10 PM) axreit long q to buy @1.18 .. neo sapu izit haha no la, my Q is 1.16!!! |
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Jan 14 2009, 02:49 PM
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wow... version 20 already so fast... did i miss anything?
didnt monitor KLSE that much lately.... waiting for dividend only This post has been edited by fergie1100: Jan 14 2009, 02:52 PM |
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Jan 14 2009, 02:53 PM
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QUOTE(fergie1100 @ Jan 14 2009, 02:49 PM) wow... version 20 already so fast... did i miss anything? dividend from what counter? didnt monitor KLSE that much lately.... waiting for dividend only |
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Jan 14 2009, 03:10 PM
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WHat happened to TM? Should I sell or hold?
I bought at 2.60. |
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Jan 14 2009, 03:10 PM
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QUOTE(AzerothJr @ Jan 14 2009, 01:26 PM) Sorry me noob. Never play with CI or warrant before. I have the patient to answer 234346. I know this question had been answer 234345 times already. But can i ask what happens if I bought a CI or WA and it expires? Do i lose everything? What is the usual trend when CI or WA near expiring? If the motheshare price is below the exercise price of strike price, you lose all together ie. your total investment in those warrant, except WA allows you to convert to mothershare. But if mothershare price is below the exercise price, then it illogic to convert it as a retailers, as you can buy the mothershare directly from the market which is cheaper. Near expiring time, generally those CI/WA/Cxxxx will trade at some discount to its mothershare. |
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Jan 14 2009, 03:22 PM
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Hi everyone,
I curious to know is there anyone here subscribe to World'Vest Base? It has detail financial info for past 10 yrs! Many financial ratio also included. |
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Jan 14 2009, 03:34 PM
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QUOTE(cherroy @ Jan 14 2009, 03:10 PM) I have the patient to answer 234346. Thanks Cherroy. If the motheshare price is below the exercise price of strike price, you lose all together ie. your total investment in those warrant, except WA allows you to convert to mothershare. But if mothershare price is below the exercise price, then it illogic to convert it as a retailers, as you can buy the mothershare directly from the market which is cheaper. Near expiring time, generally those CI/WA/Cxxxx will trade at some discount to its mothershare. Another thing is I thought CI/WA/CXXX is usually already trading somewhere 5% ~ 50% of mothershare only? You mean it is possible for those warrants to go above mothershare? Example: Pbbank 8.950 Pbbank-01 8.900 Pbbank-CH 0.300 It's only 3% of the mothershare how can it possibly rise above mothershare? |
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Jan 14 2009, 03:45 PM
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Whoa.. those who bought UEMLAND can smile. Shooting above 0.800 currently.
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Jan 14 2009, 03:54 PM
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QUOTE(AzerothJr @ Jan 14 2009, 03:34 PM) Thanks Cherroy. In term of CW or W total valuation = warrant price + conversion/exercise price.Another thing is I thought CI/WA/CXXX is usually already trading somewhere 5% ~ 50% of mothershare only? You mean it is possible for those warrants to go above mothershare? Example: Pbbank 8.950 Pbbank-01 8.900 Pbbank-CH 0.300 It's only 3% of the mothershare how can it possibly rise above mothershare? Which is the true worth of the warrant, not 0.30. This post has been edited by cherroy: Jan 14 2009, 03:54 PM |
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Jan 14 2009, 04:03 PM
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US futures looks good.
OSK buy transaction today seems still good at 1.03 and 1.04 MPHB price drop abit.. 1.15. This morning Jupiter have Buy call on this counter trading buy at RM1.16 with a stop loss at RM1.11 Zelan start move up also.. Got some nibbing goin on.. Good tat i bought some 0.855 tat day.. Resorts still under selling pressure at 2.30. Cheers, v_viper88 This post has been edited by viper88: Jan 14 2009, 04:07 PM |
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Jan 14 2009, 04:20 PM
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Ramunia suddently become quite active. Hmm... something might be happening... Anyone knows?
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Jan 14 2009, 04:24 PM
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weeee, i can lelax now!
throw TSWCORP jor. lost bit bit. throw it now (altho i still have another day to go) but i have a feeling tomorrow market would be good la! wow i am contradicting myself!!! anyway, no more punting for me, i have no luck for that! |
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Jan 14 2009, 04:26 PM
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within few minutes, Ramunia volume become 3X!!!
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Jan 14 2009, 04:27 PM
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i think a lot of counters are wakening!!!
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Jan 14 2009, 04:27 PM
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QUOTE(panasonic88 @ Jan 14 2009, 04:24 PM) weeee, i can lelax now! Just treat it like CNY gaming loh. No harm done, you got the fun mah.throw TSWCORP jor. lost bit bit. throw it now (altho i still have another day to go) but i have a feeling tomorrow market would be good la! wow i am contradicting myself!!! anyway, no more punting for me, i have no luck for that! Added on January 14, 2009, 4:29 pm QUOTE(chyaw @ Jan 14 2009, 04:26 PM) within few minutes, Ramunia volume become 3X!!! After you post, I go to see this stock.All the transaction is done in one price and constantly at around 200 lots. While buyer Q is fake one. Some one is playing around this stock. This post has been edited by cherroy: Jan 14 2009, 04:29 PM |
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Jan 14 2009, 04:29 PM
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ya..most OnG r moving...goreng-goreng again.....all become fat before CNY
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Jan 14 2009, 04:32 PM
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yeah, the stupid fun of waking up at 6am+ to check for DJIA closing. darn.
my precious sleep!!! kek sei ngor jor! |
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Jan 14 2009, 04:37 PM
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QUOTE(darkknight81 @ Jan 14 2009, 11:59 AM) You know my biggest mistake is buying UT..... LUCKILY manage to pull out all my UT earlier last year which cause me to lost about RM 7K..... Y u sale ur UT so earlier and when u know selling ur UT will cause u losses of 7K? If i din sold all my UT i will be losing more than 30k this year Luckily manage to recover my losses by trading tenaga maybank .... wait for few year it shld rebound and then make more profit. |
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Jan 14 2009, 04:39 PM
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QUOTE(aoisky @ Jan 14 2009, 05:37 PM) Y u sale ur UT so earlier and when u know selling ur UT will cause u losses of 7K? Becos i know i can perform better then those fund manager wait for few year it shld rebound and then make more profit. |
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Jan 14 2009, 04:43 PM
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CI would close in green!!!
i bet...with my 20 sens in my pocket!!! |
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Jan 14 2009, 04:47 PM
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QUOTE(darkknight81 @ Jan 14 2009, 12:17 PM) The more i find out about UT the faster i wanted to sell off my UT. I prefer spending my free time doing my own research on my own stock pick instead of paying the fee to the fund manager. My return for 2008 on trading is about 30% which is better than UT which is in red currently... Some UT the longer you hold the more losses you have. Some ppl may still losing 50% of their UT investment if they bought at 1997. ooh man comon dont give so many negative impression of UT me also holding some UT losses 8K, but UT mean for long term one. at least UT wouldnt go tabao or like BHD company delisted and made ur share bcom toilet paper.UT are for those who really lazy to spend their spare times on doing some simple reasearch....Who said doing investment you must diversify ? All is lie one lol.... What i think is picking up 2 -3 good stocks is more than enuff. |
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Jan 14 2009, 04:48 PM
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QUOTE(panasonic88 @ Jan 14 2009, 02:53 PM) dividend from what counter? What else if not the "bank of the public" QUOTE(gogo2 @ Jan 14 2009, 03:10 PM) WHat happened to TM? Should I sell or hold? wow, u still holding it since last time pal? I bought at 2.60. |
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QUOTE(cherroy @ Jan 14 2009, 04:27 PM) Just treat it like CNY gaming loh. No harm done, you got the fun mah. ya, got 1 lot buy for ramunia-wa as well Added on January 14, 2009, 4:29 pm After you post, I go to see this stock. All the transaction is done in one price and constantly at around 200 lots. While buyer Q is fake one. Some one is playing around this stock. |
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Jan 14 2009, 04:50 PM
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QUOTE(aoisky @ Jan 14 2009, 05:47 PM) ooh man comon dont give so many negative impression of UT me also holding some UT losses 8K, but UT mean for long term one. at least UT wouldnt go tabao or like BHD company delisted and made ur share bcom toilet paper. For my case, after selling off my UT i gain back 12k from trading with tenaga 5k from maybank. now holding my ytl power. If i din sell my UT and still holding now i will loss 30k ...... |
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Jan 14 2009, 04:51 PM
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stock moving? where got. all dead to me..
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Jan 14 2009, 04:51 PM
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mr. seems moving upward, angpow coming |
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QUOTE(darkknight81 @ Jan 14 2009, 04:50 PM) For my case, after selling off my UT i gain back 12k from trading with tenaga 5k from maybank. now holding my ytl power. If i din sell my UT and still holding now i will loss 30k ...... some ppl might sold the UT n incur another 12k loss fr KLCI...not all is as lucky as u...tat's y...if u decided UT for long term...hold it first... if u wan fast money...dun buy UT at the first place... but i really have to agree that UT, just like our remisier...will gain no matter wat! -just my 2 cents-  |
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Jan 14 2009, 04:54 PM
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Lionind marching up ,lion is coming, must break 80 cents soon |
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Jan 14 2009, 04:57 PM
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QUOTE(panasonic88 @ Jan 14 2009, 04:43 PM) CI would close in green!!! Lei shi jor....i bet...with my 20 sens in my pocket!!! |
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Jan 14 2009, 04:57 PM
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QUOTE(lklatmy @ Jan 14 2009, 04:57 PM) Lei shi jor.... meh wor, still got 3 min |
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QUOTE(kinwawa @ Jan 14 2009, 05:53 PM) some ppl might sold the UT n incur another 12k loss fr KLCI...not all is as lucky as u... Not agree with that. Look back at the fund price during 1997 and now. Still making losses.... No matter how long you holding it still loss money. If you willing to spend time doing some study on stock i still beliv it will be a better way of investing compare to UT.tat's y...if u decided UT for long term...hold it first... if u wan fast money...dun buy UT at the first place... but i really have to agree that UT, just like our remisier...will gain no matter wat! -just my 2 cents- My parent are one of the victim that trap into UT during 1997 .... If the fund happened so lucky to invest in all the bad apple do you think it can rebound? This post has been edited by darkknight81: Jan 14 2009, 05:00 PM |
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QUOTE(panasonic88 @ Jan 14 2009, 04:57 PM) meh wor, still got 3 min Index won't change liao,TCP ady determined. |
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KNM recovering, well support |
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WARNING: Malaysia's stock rally 'unsustainable': Deutsche
The Composite Index is trading at a price-to-earnings multiple of 12.7 times 2009 estimated earnings, a 15 per cent premium to the region, Deutsche said in the report. LINK WARNING: Citigroup sees Malaysia entering technical recession in the first quarter INVESTORS should sell Malaysian bank stocks as the country will slide into a recession in the first quarter, eroding corporate earnings and hurting share prices in the Southeast Asian nation, Citigroup Inc said. LINK This post has been edited by Singh_Kalan: Jan 14 2009, 05:06 PM |
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aiyer~ see see, i really have no luck to bet/punt.
nah, give you 20 sens lor. i thought i wanna use it to buy sweets one. T_T |
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Jan 14 2009, 05:01 PM
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Don know y our KLCI still have good support even dowjones have been in red for 5 days already.
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QUOTE(Singh_Kalan @ Jan 14 2009, 05:00 PM) WARNING: Malaysia's stock rally 'unsustainable': Deutsche i'd take that as a "buy" sign The Composite Index is trading at a price-to-earnings multiple of 12.7 times 2009 estimated earnings, a 15 per cent premium to the region, Deutsche said in the report. LINK |
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Jan 14 2009, 05:04 PM
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QUOTE(panasonic88 @ Jan 14 2009, 05:00 PM) aiyer~ see see, i really have no luck to bet/punt. Ok ,you owe me 20 sen. nah, give you 20 sens lor. i thought i wanna use it to buy sweets one. T_T FYI,once the TCP is fixed,the CI is also fixed liao because the closing stock prices would not change ady. |
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QUOTE(lklatmy @ Jan 14 2009, 05:04 PM) Ok ,you owe me 20 sen. so the TCP is fixed around 4.57PM ka? FYI,once the TCP is fixed,the CI is also fixed liao because the closing stock prices would not change ady. sorry mr remisier, what does TCP mean? you can bite me if this has been repeated and i didnt follow the class |
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actually...i was also wondering wat TCP is.....but i malu to ask
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Jan 14 2009, 05:11 PM
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QUOTE(panasonic88 @ Jan 14 2009, 05:03 PM) i'd take that as a "buy" sign I ve already made THE position, go long term since Dec 08, wait , wait, wait for the durian to fall, 1,2 years.......KNM ,Lionind ,Pelikan , Huaan and N2N. |
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DJIA probably will close in red again for the 6th days... and many days to come.... be prepared.
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Jan 14 2009, 05:15 PM
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QUOTE(kinwawa @ Jan 14 2009, 05:11 PM) actually...i was also wondering wat TCP is.....but i malu to ask Theoretical Closing Price - the only price that transaction will go tru in the last 10 mins...... 12.20 for morning session & 4.50 for afternoon session.. hahahahaThis post has been edited by fergie1100: Jan 14 2009, 05:15 PM |
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QUOTE(fergie1100 @ Jan 14 2009, 05:15 PM) Theoretical Closing Price - the only price that transaction will go tru in the last 10 mins...... 12.20 for morning session & 4.50 for afternoon session.. thanks fergie! i learn something new today. |
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Jan 14 2009, 05:22 PM
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Target closing price? Arrg.
Nevermind. Forget it. Me is a noob. This post has been edited by AzerothJr: Jan 14 2009, 05:23 PM |
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Jan 14 2009, 05:23 PM
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QUOTE(panasonic88 @ Jan 14 2009, 05:17 PM) thanks fergie! i learn something new today. lowyat is always a good place for knowledge sharing |
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Jan 14 2009, 05:23 PM
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QUOTE(panasonic88 @ Jan 14 2009, 05:17 PM) thanks fergie! i learn something new today.http://forum.lowyat.net/topic/858718 |
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newbie here. sifus, is Huaan a good buy? :-)
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Jan 14 2009, 05:27 PM
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hmm...has anyone try to test the 'power' of lowyat forumers ...let say all buy one share together...c how much can push up the price hahahahahahaha
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Jan 14 2009, 05:30 PM
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QUOTE(lklatmy @ Jan 14 2009, 05:23 PM) You can also refer here,there's a detailed explaination by forumer Skidtrader in post #20. thanks for the linky. i haven't read that thread yet.http://forum.lowyat.net/topic/858718 |
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k...tata...time to go home
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QUOTE(teoanne @ Jan 14 2009, 05:23 PM) newbie here. sifus, is Huaan a good buy? :-) Huaanhttp://forum.lowyat.net/topic/754772 |
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QUOTE(kinwawa @ Jan 14 2009, 05:27 PM) hmm...has anyone try to test the 'power' of lowyat forumers ...let say all buy one share together...c how much can push up the price hahahahahahaha i always think of thts hheheehehehehehehe but in d end who wan to take over our stock ???????? PS: we can trap other ppl if not die !!!! today i was looking forward on SAPCRES_WA ,, hehehehehehe playing warrant . This post has been edited by whoknowz: Jan 14 2009, 06:19 PM |
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QUOTE(darkknight81 @ Jan 14 2009, 04:50 PM) For my case, after selling off my UT i gain back 12k from trading with tenaga 5k from maybank. now holding my ytl power. If i din sell my UT and still holding now i will loss 30k ...... WOW u so confident, i think u lucky la isn't it? In such situation u might loss $ from UT and then loss to bursa as well. for me I will hold my UT coz UT for long term investment la. Added on January 14, 2009, 7:26 pm QUOTE(darkknight81 @ Jan 14 2009, 04:59 PM) Not agree with that. Look back at the fund price during 1997 and now. Still making losses.... No matter how long you holding it still loss money. If you willing to spend time doing some study on stock i still beliv it will be a better way of investing compare to UT. mind to share with us which Fund or UT company causing ur parents loss $ during 1997? My parent are one of the victim that trap into UT during 1997 .... If the fund happened so lucky to invest in all the bad apple do you think it can rebound? curios cause that time I still primary school kid and me still greenhorn in investment this is 1st time I heard someone said investment in UT loss money till now still couldn't recover. This post has been edited by aoisky: Jan 14 2009, 07:26 PM |
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QUOTE(aoisky @ Jan 14 2009, 07:20 PM) WOW u so confident, i think u lucky la isn't it? In such situation u might loss $ from UT and then loss to bursa as well. long term how much you have in there first ?????have more then 10k share ??? for me I will hold my UT coz UT for long term investment la. Added on January 14, 2009, 7:26 pm mind to share with us which Fund or UT company causing ur parents loss $ during 1997? curios cause that time I still primary school kid and me still greenhorn in investment this is 1st time I heard someone said investment in UT loss money till now still couldn't recover. hehehe just asking asking cause tolitlle mean nothing le . |
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QUOTE(whoknowz @ Jan 14 2009, 06:17 PM) i always think of thts hheheehehehehehehe but in d end who wan to take over our stock ???????? omg you must a brave ranger! this warrant left approx 9 days or so only (after minus the bursa public holidays).if not die !!!! today i was looking forward on SAPCRES_WA ,, hehehehehehe playing warrant . good luck! |
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QUOTE(whoknowz @ Jan 14 2009, 07:29 PM) long term how much you have in there first ?????have more then 10k share ??? Yes. If not I wouldn't loss 8K if I sale now. As long as I keep the units I not losing a single penny, If I sale now it cost me more than 8K. But no worry usually my UT keep for 2-3years should bring back some profit.hehehe just asking asking cause tolitlle mean nothing le . |
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QUOTE(aoisky @ Jan 14 2009, 08:20 PM) WOW u so confident, i think u lucky la isn't it? In such situation u might loss $ from UT and then loss to bursa as well. Yup can consider lucky i admit that. But by thinking that holding UT risk is lower is totally wrong. One example is the fund that bought by my mum PCSF AT RM 29 SEN i beliv now is below 15 sen. I din bother at all the fund price quite some times already. for me I will hold my UT coz UT for long term investment la. Added on January 14, 2009, 7:26 pm mind to share with us which Fund or UT company causing ur parents loss $ during 1997? curios cause that time I still primary school kid and me still greenhorn in investment this is 1st time I heard someone said investment in UT loss money till now still couldn't recover. Tell you one fact... the fund manager have one restriction during they do their investment. If the stock go down really cheap : 1. They cannot buy it most of the time as unit holder may withdraw their investment so they got to sell during price is dirt cheap.... 2. During stock price is high ... they got to invest also as most of the ppl outside may go to buy fund and if the fund manager din use the money to invest and let the fund price up then is not correct either. Basically fund manager cannot really control the fund cash flow... not as flexible as you think. Where as for me, i can do my own research and set the price that i want to buy ... Invest in fund you don even know what price the fund manager bought actually. I remember the fund my mum bought during 1997 was under MBF now is under MAAKLMUTUAL fund name forgot .. If you really interest you can go and check at some old fund for MAAKLMUTUAL. |
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Jan 14 2009, 09:18 PM
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I switched out when PCSF was 28.55 sen. It was quite obvious back then that momentum is starting to stall. You should have applied cut loss principles and get out if u lose 8% or more etc. So in your case it would have been 26 sen.
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How come you guys talked about UT in a stock market thread?
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QUOTE(Medufsaid @ Jan 14 2009, 10:18 PM) I switched out when PCSF was 28.55 sen. It was quite obvious back then that momentum is starting to stall. You should have applied cut loss principles and get out if u lose 8% or more etc. So in your case it would have been 26 sen. Nope i din buy PCSF mY MUM DID. Yup i manage to cut loss for my own fund as i see their are further downtrend early last year before olympic. Selling now will be too late already. Will probably losing half or even more of your initial investment already. Remember if your total loss is 50% you got to add another 5% which is for the service charge .....There are actually no actual answer either UT or stock is better choice. I mean for me i will prefer stock. Added on January 14, 2009, 9:36 pmOne more question here. What is the short term trend for our KLCI? For me i think at current level can unload stock already as downtrend is coming. Need some direction for this as... my wife want to offload her PUBLIC SOUTH EAST ASIA SELECT FUND she want me to help her manage her do investment. Got to ask here becos if i ask at unit trust topic sure ppl will advice me to hold for long term This post has been edited by darkknight81: Jan 14 2009, 09:36 PM |
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QUOTE(aoisky @ Jan 14 2009, 04:47 PM) ooh man comon dont give so many negative impression of UT me also holding some UT losses 8K, but UT mean for long term one. at least UT wouldnt go tabao or like BHD company delisted and made ur share bcom toilet paper. Actually it is same one. Buying share also a long term one, except one aims for speculatoin and purely trading purposes.Holding UT = Holding equities or shares. Just UT might have 15 stocks in hand, so if one goes down (as you mentioned tabao), UT fund may be suffer a few % drop because still got other 14 in hand which make up the total NAV. So if an individual holds 15 stocks as identical to the UT fund managers, so situation is exactly the same. As above example, if the company tabao, you lose 1 stocks which become toilet paper but let say you have 50K for the portfolio buying across 15 stocks, so you suffer a few K losses in your total invested amount which is totally identical to UT situation. UT is just like an employer hire an employee to do job. May be because the employer doesn't know how to do or no time to do it or whatever reason. So UT = shares. The different is choosing stocks only. But on local front, there are not many choice of stocks actually, most will consist like Pbbank, YTL, Genting, Sime, IOI etc, which basically can't run away much as choice of big cap and high liquidity stocks are not that many. So one can actually mimic the UT portfolio if one has some sufficient fund to do it. Don't need to have millions, a few ten K up to around 50K or so can do it already. UT has one distinct advantage is that it allows diversifcation on small amount of fund, but for those having sufficient fund, the advantage seems not that obvious already as one has the sufficient to diversify on his/her own if wish provided he/she knows what he/she is doing. Don't get me wrong, don't mean to give negative comment on UT, it has its usage and function for the public and some serve well for public (provided public with some timing), just to explain and give out clear situation so that people won't have the mindset of holding equities UT is not the same of holding shares. Actually it is the same. To be exact, UT is just another tool that you hire a fund manager to do the job for you. So whether one needs the service or not, it depends on individual needs and situation. UT is just another platform to have exposure in share in different way which can be good as well. OT a bit, I would like to see some change in UT industry so that management fee charges or service charges based on performance, which is much fair to the investors, they can still charge a fixed floor fee (they still need to pay for office/personnel which I fully understand), but only rise up in par with performance. Just like now it is 1.5% across, no matter how they are doing. With the like eg I mentioned, something like they can only charge 0.5% fixed, but if performance is good then only rise to 1.0% or 1.5% accordingly, which is much fair to investors while indirectly push the fund houses to have more incentive to perform better. In current structure, it is not fair, as even a fund is doing poorly still charge the same amount with those fund performs magnificient one. This post has been edited by cherroy: Jan 14 2009, 09:46 PM |
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hoho discussing UT now .. imo its time its nice to grab some now since is dirst cheap now and many below thier starting price .. its best to target on china fund e.g. PSCF more aggressive fund which it zoom up if market recover
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Jan 14 2009, 09:52 PM
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QUOTE(cherroy @ Jan 14 2009, 10:43 PM) Actually it is same one. Buying share also a long term one, except one aims for speculatoin and purely trading purposes. But holding UT got one problem. You cannot do your own valuation on how low is cheap how high is expensive basically you can do is by seeing the index. Whereas for stock i can do my on valuation. I can make my own judgement that this stock is cheap or expensive for me. Holding UT i not feel as comfortable as holding stock for me lar. I feel safer by holding stock Holding UT = Holding equities or shares. Just UT might have 15 stocks in hand, so if one goes down (as you mentioned tabao), UT fund may be suffer a few % drop because still got other 14 in hand which make up the total NAV. So if an individual holds 15 stocks as identical to the UT fund managers, so situation is exactly the same. As above example, if the company tabao, you lose 1 stocks which become toilet paper but let say you have 50K for the portfolio buying across 15 stocks, so you suffer a few K losses in your total invested amount which is totally identical to UT situation. UT is just like an employer hire an employee to do job. May be because the employer doesn't know how to do or no time to do it or whatever reason. So UT = shares. The different is choosing stocks only. But on local front, there are not many choice of stocks actually, most will consist like Pbbank, YTL, Genting, Sime, IOI etc, which basically can't run away much as choice of big cap and high liquidity stocks are not that many. So one can actually mimic the UT portfolio if one has some sufficient fund to do it. Don't need to have millions, a few ten K up to around 50K or so can do it already. UT has one distinct advantage is that it allows diversifcation on small amount of fund, but for those having sufficient fund, the advantage seems not that obvious already as one has the sufficient to diversify on his/her own if wish provided he/she knows what he/she is doing. Don't get me wrong, don't mean to give negative comment on UT, it has its usage and function for the public and some serve well for public (provided public with some timing), just to explain and give out clear situation so that people won't have the mindset of holding equities UT is not the same of holding shares. Actually it is the same. To be exact, UT is just another tool that you hire a fund manager to do the job for you. So whether one needs the service or not, it depends on individual needs and situation. UT is just another platform to have exposure in share in different way which can be good as well. OT a bit, I would like to see some change in UT industry so that management fee charges or service charges based on performance, which is much fair to the investors, they can still charge a fixed floor fee (they still need to pay for office/personnel which I fully understand), but only rise up in par with performance. Just like now it is 1.5% across, no matter how they are doing. With the like eg I mentioned, something like they can only charge 0.5% fixed, but if performance is good then only rise to 1.0% or 1.5% accordingly, which is much fair to investors while indirectly push the fund houses to have more incentive to perform better. In current structure, it is not fair, as even a fund is doing poorly still charge the same amount with those fund performs magnificient one. |
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WTA, anyone using Maybank online?? I got this online share incentive credited into my account 2x last 2 months. what is it? 1st time rm 200+ second time rm 100+. Anyway, got extra money so i just keep quiet lah.
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QUOTE(yeeeeko @ Jan 14 2009, 09:56 PM) WTA, anyone using Maybank online?? I got this online share incentive credited into my account 2x last 2 months. what is it? 1st time rm 200+ second time rm 100+. Anyway, got extra money so i just keep quiet lah. You don't know where's the incentive source? just wanna know what is it... Now seldom use maybank coz jupiter lower trading fees.  |
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It comes out in my online statement via M2U. Yeah, dunno where is the source la. Now only left 1 counter in maybank.
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QUOTE(darkknight81 @ Jan 14 2009, 09:52 PM) But holding UT got one problem. You cannot do your own valuation on how low is cheap how high is expensive basically you can do is by seeing the index. Whereas for stock i can do my on valuation. I can make my own judgement that this stock is cheap or expensive for me. Holding UT i not feel as comfortable as holding stock for me lar. I feel safer by holding stock Yes, you make a good point, just like you hire the employee that you fully trust what he/she is doing with no question ask except seeing the result delivered to you. But we have to consider that bulk of public don't know how to look the financial report, nor knowing whether the company make profit or give dividend or not, or company financial still in good shape or not. So this (UT) is a better channel for them rather than blindly buy something directly from the market they don't know or clear about. That's why I said it serves somebody well, but for some, it is not good as they can do on their own while fund has its performance limitation as you said, while at the mean time, for some, they can't do it on their own even having knowledge on it due to other commitment etc so need the service of fund managers. |
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QUOTE(cherroy @ Jan 14 2009, 11:01 PM) Yes, you make a good point, just like you hire the employee that you fully trust what he/she is doing with no question ask except seeing the result delivered to you. Ya. Like what you said just that the fee is too high even though the one you trust cannot perform well. you also give him the same bonus. But we have to consider that bulk of public don't know how to look the financial report, nor knowing whether the company make profit or give dividend or not, or company financial still in good shape or not. So this (UT) is a better channel for them rather than blindly buy something directly from the market they don't know or clear about. That's why I said it serves somebody well, but for some, it is not good as they can do on their own while fund has its performance limitation as you said, while at the mean time, for some, they can't do it on their own even having knowledge on it due to other commitment etc so need the service of fund managers. |
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Retail sales plummet 2.7 percent in December.
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DJIA opens in RED: 8,446.01 -2.55 -0.03%
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QUOTE(darkknight81 @ Jan 14 2009, 09:08 PM) Yup can consider lucky i admit that. But by thinking that holding UT risk is lower is totally wrong. One example is the fund that bought by my mum PCSF AT RM 29 SEN i beliv now is below 15 sen. I din bother at all the fund price quite some times already. Thanks for sharing. I m holding PCSF also currently. I bought some PFEPRF and it is my biggest mistake.Tell you one fact... the fund manager have one restriction during they do their investment. If the stock go down really cheap : 1. They cannot buy it most of the time as unit holder may withdraw their investment so they got to sell during price is dirt cheap.... 2. During stock price is high ... they got to invest also as most of the ppl outside may go to buy fund and if the fund manager din use the money to invest and let the fund price up then is not correct either. Basically fund manager cannot really control the fund cash flow... not as flexible as you think. Where as for me, i can do my own research and set the price that i want to buy ... Invest in fund you don even know what price the fund manager bought actually. I remember the fund my mum bought during 1997 was under MBF now is under MAAKLMUTUAL fund name forgot .. If you really interest you can go and check at some old fund for MAAKLMUTUAL. Added on January 14, 2009, 10:42 pm QUOTE(darkknight81 @ Jan 14 2009, 09:30 PM) Nope i din buy PCSF mY MUM DID. Yup i manage to cut loss for my own fund as i see their are further downtrend early last year before olympic. Selling now will be too late already. Will probably losing half or even more of your initial investment already. Remember if your total loss is 50% you got to add another 5% which is for the service charge ..... eh I m holding some PSEASF also, and I m not going to offload it for the time being as this fund perform better than those china fund.There are actually no actual answer either UT or stock is better choice. I mean for me i will prefer stock. Added on January 14, 2009, 9:36 pmOne more question here. What is the short term trend for our KLCI? For me i think at current level can unload stock already as downtrend is coming. Need some direction for this as... my wife want to offload her PUBLIC SOUTH EAST ASIA SELECT FUND she want me to help her manage her do investment. Got to ask here becos if i ask at unit trust topic sure ppl will advice me to hold for long term Added on January 14, 2009, 10:51 pm QUOTE(cherroy @ Jan 14 2009, 09:43 PM) Actually it is same one. Buying share also a long term one, except one aims for speculatoin and purely trading purposes. Good explanation I do agree. their management fee is quite expensive and most of the UT companies' charges may differ than others not standardize. What I m notice here is even the market price rise UT may not and take some time where as market price drop significantly sure fund price waterfall...Holding UT = Holding equities or shares. Just UT might have 15 stocks in hand, so if one goes down (as you mentioned tabao), UT fund may be suffer a few % drop because still got other 14 in hand which make up the total NAV. So if an individual holds 15 stocks as identical to the UT fund managers, so situation is exactly the same. As above example, if the company tabao, you lose 1 stocks which become toilet paper but let say you have 50K for the portfolio buying across 15 stocks, so you suffer a few K losses in your total invested amount which is totally identical to UT situation. UT is just like an employer hire an employee to do job. May be because the employer doesn't know how to do or no time to do it or whatever reason. So UT = shares. The different is choosing stocks only. But on local front, there are not many choice of stocks actually, most will consist like Pbbank, YTL, Genting, Sime, IOI etc, which basically can't run away much as choice of big cap and high liquidity stocks are not that many. So one can actually mimic the UT portfolio if one has some sufficient fund to do it. Don't need to have millions, a few ten K up to around 50K or so can do it already. UT has one distinct advantage is that it allows diversifcation on small amount of fund, but for those having sufficient fund, the advantage seems not that obvious already as one has the sufficient to diversify on his/her own if wish provided he/she knows what he/she is doing. Don't get me wrong, don't mean to give negative comment on UT, it has its usage and function for the public and some serve well for public (provided public with some timing), just to explain and give out clear situation so that people won't have the mindset of holding equities UT is not the same of holding shares. Actually it is the same. To be exact, UT is just another tool that you hire a fund manager to do the job for you. So whether one needs the service or not, it depends on individual needs and situation. UT is just another platform to have exposure in share in different way which can be good as well. OT a bit, I would like to see some change in UT industry so that management fee charges or service charges based on performance, which is much fair to the investors, they can still charge a fixed floor fee (they still need to pay for office/personnel which I fully understand), but only rise up in par with performance. Just like now it is 1.5% across, no matter how they are doing. With the like eg I mentioned, something like they can only charge 0.5% fixed, but if performance is good then only rise to 1.0% or 1.5% accordingly, which is much fair to investors while indirectly push the fund houses to have more incentive to perform better. In current structure, it is not fair, as even a fund is doing poorly still charge the same amount with those fund performs magnificient one. Added on January 14, 2009, 10:54 pm QUOTE(darkknight81 @ Jan 14 2009, 09:52 PM) But holding UT got one problem. You cannot do your own valuation on how low is cheap how high is expensive basically you can do is by seeing the index. Whereas for stock i can do my on valuation. I can make my own judgement that this stock is cheap or expensive for me. Holding UT i not feel as comfortable as holding stock for me lar. I feel safer by holding stock O ya buying offshore fund especially not real time price so u can't buy or sale ur targetted price. unlike in stock marketAdded on January 14, 2009, 10:57 pmoops this is stock market thread back to the point. This post has been edited by aoisky: Jan 14 2009, 10:57 PM |
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DJIA is very RED now: 8,260.83 -187.73 -2.22%
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and we have a dow jones free fall?
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Jan 14 2009, 11:39 PM
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[quote=darkknight81,Jan 14 2009, 09:30 PM]
Added on January 14, 2009, 9:36 pmOne more question here. What is the short term trend for our KLCI? For me i think at current level can unload stock already as downtrend is coming. Just throwing out some ideas here. 1. US financial crisis. I think this is only the beginning. The outgoing Bush administration seems to be doing a patch job on the economy/ bailing out his cronies, leaving Obama holding on to the bag. It would seem to me that an outgoing administration will cover up whatever problems there are (unless they got too big to handle) and quietly exit the scene. The next administration would be blamed. Therefore, whatever we've seen so far is only the tip of the iceberg. I think that after Jan 20, there're a whole lot more surprises waiting in store. No, we're not decoupled from US economy and I don't see President Hu paying us a visit after Black October 2008. He did visit Indonesia though. As for our local efforts; Peru, Kazakhstan, Pakistan......we need FDI to preserve the value of our infrastructure. 2. The local property scene is artificially supported by our government. There are not enough takers even before the first half of 08, much less after that. The property bubble was popping even before October hit. You'll notice our developers get a lot of leeway over government policies. 3. Goldman Sachs manipulated the oil price globally. Who knows, who is manipulating it now. I think it is being kept artificially at a low price. For a finite commodity, the price fell too fast, too much. 4. Gold price is being manipulated. I'm not even sure it's too high or too low. |
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Jan 14 2009, 11:40 PM
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wonder it will closed at 7k?
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Jan 14 2009, 11:57 PM
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so tomorrow sell everything and grab everything on sales?
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Jan 15 2009, 12:13 AM
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is tmr night also red? then how?
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Jan 15 2009, 12:19 AM
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i'm very happy to see the color of ang pow. but..... anything can happen in few hours...
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Jan 15 2009, 12:50 AM
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QUOTE(htt @ Jan 14 2009, 10:20 PM) Retail sales plummet 2.7 percent in December. That's over in US. That's almost expected because of their consumers cut back.Anyone know what is OUR retail sales figures? Will our KLSE stock pullback based on their sales figures (I dont' see any connection here...) ? This post has been edited by danmooncake: Jan 15 2009, 01:18 AM |
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Jan 15 2009, 01:25 AM
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Wow, got burnt from US stocks. Haha, lucky still got net.
Anyways, just checked that the managing director of Ramunia acquired 500,000 shares. JUST FYI. Hopefully dow will recoup some of its losses but we'll see. Still got 3.5 hrs to go. |
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Jan 15 2009, 01:39 AM
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Will we see Crude Oil test US$30/barrel?
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Jan 15 2009, 01:40 AM
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QUOTE(AdamG1981 @ Jan 15 2009, 01:25 AM) Wow, got burnt from US stocks. Haha, lucky still got net. that's weird? why dow need to recoup losses? what we hope now is total devastationAnyways, just checked that the managing director of Ramunia acquired 500,000 shares. JUST FYI. Hopefully dow will recoup some of its losses but we'll see. Still got 3.5 hrs to go. of stock market so that we can get cheap price. |
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QUOTE(gogo2 @ Jan 15 2009, 01:40 AM) that's weird? why dow need to recoup losses? what we hope now is total devastation 'Total Devastation' is probably too much because that would collapse all confidence andof stock market so that we can get cheap price. even if you manage to buy cheap..it may not recover. Some of those overvalued stocks may need to come down even more.. then that is better! Examples: Proctor and Gamble (PG), Johnson and Johnson (JNJ) and MacDonald (MCD). Those are great recession resistance stocks! |
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QUOTE(AdamG1981 @ Jan 15 2009, 01:25 AM) Wow, got burnt from US stocks. Haha, lucky still got net. Dont mind me asking, where u checked from?Anyways, just checked that the managing director of Ramunia acquired 500,000 shares. JUST FYI. Hopefully dow will recoup some of its losses but we'll see. Still got 3.5 hrs to go. Added on January 15, 2009, 3:44 amWall Street: A triple-digit Dow selloff DOW -206.92 -2.45% 8,241.64 NASDAQ -42.96 -2.78% 1,503.50 S&P 500 -24.47 -2.81% 847.32 This post has been edited by mindstorm: Jan 15 2009, 03:44 AM |
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Jan 15 2009, 05:08 AM
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DJIA plunged nearly 250 points: 8,200.14 -248.42 -2.94%
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QUOTE(AdamG1981 @ Jan 15 2009, 01:25 AM) Wow, got burnt from US stocks. Haha, lucky still got net. Goreng goreng Anyways, just checked that the managing director of Ramunia acquired 500,000 shares. JUST FYI. Hopefully dow will recoup some of its losses but we'll see. Still got 3.5 hrs to go. |
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Jan 15 2009, 07:56 AM
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I got incentive when I do intraday contra. If you view transaction history, you'll see which shares gives your the incentives.
PS: look at Premier 1's account! QUOTE(yeeeeko @ Jan 14 2009, 09:56 PM) WTA, anyone using Maybank online?? I got this online share incentive credited into my account 2x last 2 months. what is it? 1st time rm 200+ second time rm 100+. Anyway, got extra money so i just keep quiet lah. just wanna know what is it... Now seldom use maybank coz jupiter lower trading fees. |
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Jan 15 2009, 08:18 AM
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[quote=voon71,Jan 15 2009, 12:39 AM]
[quote=darkknight81,Jan 14 2009, 09:30 PM] Added on January 14, 2009, 9:36 pmOne more question here. What is the short term trend for our KLCI? For me i think at current level can unload stock already as downtrend is coming. Just throwing out some ideas here. 1. US financial crisis. I think this is only the beginning. The outgoing Bush administration seems to be doing a patch job on the economy/ bailing out his cronies, leaving Obama holding on to the bag. It would seem to me that an outgoing administration will cover up whatever problems there are (unless they got too big to handle) and quietly exit the scene. The next administration would be blamed. Therefore, whatever we've seen so far is only the tip of the iceberg. I think that after Jan 20, there're a whole lot more surprises waiting in store. No, we're not decoupled from US economy and I don't see President Hu paying us a visit after Black October 2008. He did visit Indonesia though. As for our local efforts; Peru, Kazakhstan, Pakistan......we need FDI to preserve the value of our infrastructure. 2. The local property scene is artificially supported by our government. There are not enough takers even before the first half of 08, much less after that. The property bubble was popping even before October hit. You'll notice our developers get a lot of leeway over government policies. 3. Goldman Sachs manipulated the oil price globally. Who knows, who is manipulating it now. I think it is being kept artificially at a low price. For a finite commodity, the price fell too fast, too much. 4. Gold price is being manipulated. I'm not even sure it's too high or too low. [/quote] Yup agree with that. But now everyone is putting their hope on obama. Everybody beliv that obama can bring us to the road of recovery. |
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Jan 15 2009, 08:21 AM
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QUOTE(danmooncake @ Jan 15 2009, 01:16 AM) That's over in US. That's almost expected because of their consumers cut back. We live in a small world... Anyone know what is OUR retail sales figures? Will our KLSE stock pullback based on their sales figures (I dont' see any connection here...) ? |
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Jan 15 2009, 08:47 AM
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????? dunno good to enter today or not .. CI sure slump but will tml still like tat .. will DJ drop more 7K tonight ????? many questions in the mind
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Jan 15 2009, 08:49 AM
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Shopping day? Citigroup plunge so much last night..lol
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Jan 15 2009, 08:54 AM
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Hmm.. Any good deals in mind today?
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Jan 15 2009, 08:56 AM
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Its gonna b a red red day....
But will there b some big rebound for intraday trade? hehehe |
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Jan 15 2009, 09:03 AM
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QUOTE(kingkong81 @ Jan 15 2009, 08:56 AM) Its gonna b a red red day.... market is full of surprises, wat if diarhoea doesn't stop today?But will there b some big rebound for intraday trade? hehehe |
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Jan 15 2009, 09:07 AM
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i supposed the diarrhea will not go at 1 go...it will b slowly a bit a bit...
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Jan 15 2009, 09:13 AM
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QUOTE(kingkong81 @ Jan 15 2009, 09:07 AM) i supposed the diarrhea will not go at 1 go...it will b slowly a bit a bit... Laut Merah.. So red red red..  cant see already.. sinking feeling is back.. |
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Jan 15 2009, 09:17 AM
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-20points!!!
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Jan 15 2009, 09:18 AM
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Wah. Blood is everywhere.
KLCI is having its period today. |
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Jan 15 2009, 09:19 AM
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free fall, top vol screen all red
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Jan 15 2009, 09:21 AM
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wah seh, surprised me!
CI dropped 20 pts!!! my KLK 9.50 only~~~~!!! |
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Jan 15 2009, 09:24 AM
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mostly big cap stock r bleeding....
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Jan 15 2009, 09:24 AM
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anyone dare to buy anything?
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Jan 15 2009, 09:28 AM
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awesome~ shopping time!!
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Jan 15 2009, 09:29 AM
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Whoa.. RED morning today.
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Jan 15 2009, 09:30 AM
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volume still low wor....btw...who was hoping to buy OSK <1 ar?? today can realized liao
5cents div coming??? |
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Jan 15 2009, 09:30 AM
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QUOTE(mo_meng @ Jan 15 2009, 09:24 AM) anyone dare to buy anything? parang falling u dare to catch? |
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Jan 15 2009, 09:33 AM
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catch catch catch!
no risk no gain!! |
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Jan 15 2009, 09:36 AM
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panic stopped
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Jan 15 2009, 09:37 AM
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QUOTE(panasonic88 @ Jan 15 2009, 09:33 AM) catch catch catch! Later hand also gone ah.no risk no gain!! Nothing really drop much, its just that nearly 60 Blue chip counter drops that caused the initial -20points. Don't becuase of a small tree you give away the whole forest. Titbits are just child play. We must at least go for the "abalone, shark fin or buddha jump over the wall". |
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Jan 15 2009, 09:39 AM
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E&O still green wo. All the rest red
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Jan 15 2009, 09:40 AM
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plan to get pantech
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Jan 15 2009, 09:43 AM
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yah noticed that big caps are dropping like potato this morning. dragging the CI to fall.
the small caps (even my TWSCORP) oso not much affected. plantations are yummy!!! This post has been edited by panasonic88: Jan 15 2009, 09:44 AM |
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Jan 15 2009, 09:52 AM
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SAPCRES doing quite well even after the dividend entitlement date over. will sapcres-wa recover ?
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Jan 15 2009, 09:53 AM
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so many to choose dunno buy wat .. stay sidelines for further drop
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Jan 15 2009, 09:53 AM
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QUOTE(alivecmh @ Jan 15 2009, 09:52 AM) SAPCRES doing quite well even after the dividend entitlement date over. will sapcres-wa recover ? you still holding yours? |
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Jan 15 2009, 09:54 AM
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Nop, oredi sold many days ago, now holding WCT
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Jan 15 2009, 09:54 AM
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QUOTE(mo_meng @ Jan 15 2009, 09:53 AM) so many to choose dunno buy wat .. stay sidelines for further drop choose blue chips la of course. or you may scan thru any blue chips that is giving div soon. target them! |
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Jan 15 2009, 09:56 AM
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QUOTE(panasonic88 @ Jan 15 2009, 09:54 AM) choose blue chips la of course. Say..list your favourite blue chip and target price... or you may scan thru any blue chips that is giving div soon. target them! |
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Jan 15 2009, 09:57 AM
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Temasek ceased to be substantial holder of WCT...
Sold 253,400 shares...stake cut to 4.99% The Star |
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Jan 15 2009, 10:04 AM
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QUOTE(danmooncake @ Jan 15 2009, 09:56 AM) Say..list your favourite blue chip and target price... accumulate plantation stocks. |
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Jan 15 2009, 10:09 AM
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which stock in ur list / net panas
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Jan 15 2009, 10:11 AM
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QUOTE(panasonic88 @ Jan 15 2009, 10:04 AM) accumulate plantation stocks. So fast ah pana?Why don't you wait awhile further for that. At least wait till the cease fire happens. IMO its no rush. Me also scared already now. Just hope i manage to get away with +200 today then I'll be happy already. |
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Jan 15 2009, 10:19 AM
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crude 37
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Jan 15 2009, 10:24 AM
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in time, we shlt.
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Jan 15 2009, 10:32 AM
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Wat to accumulate now? Seems like shopping time dy!!!
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Jan 15 2009, 10:37 AM
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Jan 15 2009, 10:42 AM
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go WCT :-p start collecting at current price.
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QUOTE(AzerothJr @ Jan 15 2009, 10:11 AM) So fast ah pana? Yup, market won't rise up or bull run next week. Why don't you wait awhile further for that. At least wait till the cease fire happens. IMO its no rush. Me also scared already now. Just hope i manage to get away with +200 today then I'll be happy already. But you have to consider that, if some one is holding 100. So even he/she knows the market won't rise, he/she still can buy each time like spending 2 or 3 even though knowing price is not that low, as you don't know when is the bottom. So you spread out to buy along the way. As you are totally not buying anything, then if finally the market goes up, then you had nothing whereby you will totally miss the market. This only applicable on buying some good stocks that eventually will go up back one day. Even so, if the price is not going up, one still getting the dividend yield comparable or higher than FD rate offering. Especially with FD rate will be going down which is worldwide trend now, so putting in FD yield not much also. USD 0.25%, Yen 0%, GBP 1.5%, SGD 0.5%, RM 3.5%. Between FD and stocks, if one not going to realise the paper loss (as those money is already set aside in the first place which not going to be used for long term, then comparison between stocks and FD, seems like stocks are attractive, provided stock not expensive. Just my 2 cents. |
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one stupid question...how do we know if the company will give out dividend?..and when they give?..sory noob..just started playing KLSE
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QUOTE(lonewolf @ Jan 15 2009, 10:59 AM) one stupid question...how do we know if the company will give out dividend?..and when they give?..sory noob..just started playing KLSE Each company has their own policy in term of giving out dividend. Mostly will give when financial calendar end. While some set aside some policy like give 30% or 50% of the profit made etc. So whenever they reported their financial situation, generally they will propose the dividend as well. |
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Jan 15 2009, 11:04 AM
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QUOTE(alivecmh @ Jan 15 2009, 10:42 AM) go WCT :-p start collecting at current price. hehe me greedy q at 1.09 haha |
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QUOTE(mo_meng @ Jan 15 2009, 11:04 AM) hehe me greedy q at 1.09 haha No ler, my 1.12 still haven't release all. Cannot drop to 1.09 first la. You wait for me to release all first then let it drop la. Now still strong support on 1.10 (at least me not so scare) but if drop somemore I might be scare already le. |
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Jan 15 2009, 11:17 AM
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if drop i will push it up again, no worry XD
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Jan 15 2009, 11:21 AM
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QUOTE(alivecmh @ Jan 15 2009, 11:17 AM) if drop i will push it up again, no worry XD Wow , how powerful you are. |
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Jan 15 2009, 11:32 AM
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Any1 grab OSK at RM1 ?
QUOTE(mindstorm @ Jan 15 2009, 09:36 AM) panic stopped |
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Jan 15 2009, 11:32 AM
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QUOTE(AzerothJr @ Jan 15 2009, 11:13 AM) No ler, my 1.12 still haven't release all. Cannot drop to 1.09 first la. q-ing more for hope to pull it down haha joking You wait for me to release all first then let it drop la. Now still strong support on 1.10 (at least me not so scare) but if drop somemore I might be scare already le. |
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Jan 15 2009, 11:33 AM
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QUOTE(cherroy @ Jan 15 2009, 10:55 AM) Yup, market won't rise up or bull run next week. precious 2 cents. i love it! But you have to consider that, if some one is holding 100. So even he/she knows the market won't rise, he/she still can buy each time like spending 2 or 3 even though knowing price is not that low, as you don't know when is the bottom. So you spread out to buy along the way. As you are totally not buying anything, then if finally the market goes up, then you had nothing whereby you will totally miss the market. This only applicable on buying some good stocks that eventually will go up back one day. Even so, if the price is not going up, one still getting the dividend yield comparable or higher than FD rate offering. Especially with FD rate will be going down which is worldwide trend now, so putting in FD yield not much also. USD 0.25%, Yen 0%, GBP 1.5%, SGD 0.5%, RM 3.5%. Between FD and stocks, if one not going to realise the paper loss (as those money is already set aside in the first place which not going to be used for long term, then comparison between stocks and FD, seems like stocks are attractive, provided stock not expensive. Just my 2 cents. |
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Jan 15 2009, 11:34 AM
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since temasek pull out abit on wct .. i will waiting wct to drop more
how a bout pantech -2% .. will it zoom up when market back to normal again? |
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Jan 15 2009, 11:37 AM
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QUOTE(speedguy10 @ Jan 15 2009, 11:21 AM) Wow , how powerful you are. hooray.It seems like I found some powerful ally. |
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Jan 15 2009, 11:39 AM
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QUOTE(AzerothJr @ Jan 15 2009, 11:37 AM) hooray.It seems like I found some powerful ally. |
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Jan 15 2009, 11:43 AM
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QUOTE(cherroy @ Jan 15 2009, 11:02 AM) Each company has their own policy in term of giving out dividend. Mostly will give when financial calendar end. While some set aside some policy like give 30% or 50% of the profit made etc. So whenever they reported their financial situation, generally they will propose the dividend as well. True, each company will have their own policy and can make their decision at earnings reporting date. But, whether the had issue dividends in the past, isn't that published in their company prospectus or their annual report? Usually, a good brokerage firm will have the info on that company you may want to invest in. |
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Jan 15 2009, 11:46 AM
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i just realised that my online brokerage fees is min RM12.
all along i thought it was charging me 28 bucks. now i saved more, and i can buy in small chunks, bits by bits. |
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Jan 15 2009, 11:48 AM
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enquiry on some warrants.
Is 1. genting-cm 2. ioi-cj 3. sime-cg 4. resorts-ci All those good buy? Btw how can i get to check when the warrants going to due? |
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Jan 15 2009, 11:51 AM
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QUOTE(AzerothJr @ Jan 15 2009, 11:48 AM) enquiry on some warrants. http://www.klse.com.my/website/bm/market_i...ll_warrants.pdfIs 1. genting-cm 2. ioi-cj 3. sime-cg 4. resorts-ci All those good buy? Btw how can i get to check when the warrants going to due? http://www.klse.com.my/website/bm/market_i...rrants_info.pdf |
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Jan 15 2009, 11:52 AM
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i think LCL is at the down side and may reach below rm0.6.
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Jan 15 2009, 11:52 AM
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QUOTE(panasonic88 @ Jan 15 2009, 11:46 AM) i just realised that my online brokerage fees is min RM12. wat platform. bank you are using?all along i thought it was charging me 28 bucks. now i saved more, and i can buy in small chunks, bits by bits. |
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Jan 15 2009, 11:53 AM
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Haizzz... sad sad.... didn't manage to unload the rest of my stocks...... I think this could be the continuation of the bear market (look at KLCI in Jan 2008, started dropping after 15 Jan)..... I do hope a rally may still happen after this as I want to exit the market in Q1.....
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Jan 15 2009, 11:54 AM
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LCL might be a good buy @ RM0.60.... but have to think for a longer term~
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Jan 15 2009, 11:54 AM
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QUOTE(panasonic88 @ Jan 15 2009, 11:51 AM) http://www.klse.com.my/website/bm/market_i...ll_warrants.pdf Thanks my dear Pana.http://www.klse.com.my/website/bm/market_i...rrants_info.pdf |
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Jan 15 2009, 11:54 AM
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eh, really cannot enter now? KNM buying queue is huge....
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Jan 15 2009, 12:11 PM
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QUOTE(panasonic88 @ Jan 15 2009, 11:46 AM) i just realised that my online brokerage fees is min RM12. whic brokerage u use?..all along i thought it was charging me 28 bucks. now i saved more, and i can buy in small chunks, bits by bits. |
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Jan 15 2009, 12:28 PM
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looks like we will go back to end of october 2008 level very soon.. buckle up..
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Jan 15 2009, 12:30 PM
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bloodbath - how exciting! just got my RESORTS
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Jan 15 2009, 12:30 PM
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QUOTE(verbatim @ Jan 15 2009, 12:28 PM) looks like we will go back to end of october 2008 level very soon.. buckle up.. yummy ohAdded on January 15, 2009, 12:32 pmshould wait resorts drop more .. Added on January 15, 2009, 12:33 pmtml is friday .. will it be black This post has been edited by mo_meng: Jan 15 2009, 12:33 PM |
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Jan 15 2009, 12:33 PM
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QUOTE(Vv.SoViEt.vV @ Jan 15 2009, 11:52 AM) wat platform. bank you are using? alliance investment bank.CI back to -20 pts. more reddish afternoon? our regional markets aint doing so well, either. http://finance.yahoo.com/intlindices?e=asia This post has been edited by panasonic88: Jan 15 2009, 12:34 PM |
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Jan 15 2009, 12:35 PM
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This post has been edited by sampoo: Jan 15 2009, 12:56 PM |
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Jan 15 2009, 12:35 PM
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QUOTE(gogo2 @ Jan 15 2009, 11:54 AM) eh, really cannot enter now? KNM buying queue is huge.... this might be a fake Q only. to get more real people to buy.is there any chance that bursa will go down till RM4.60? |
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Jan 15 2009, 12:51 PM
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can see that who got so much money to play with if people really willing to sell at this price ??????????
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Jan 15 2009, 12:54 PM
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KNM drop also. Queueing again at lower price
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Jan 15 2009, 12:56 PM
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QUOTE(danmooncake @ Jan 15 2009, 11:43 AM) True, each company will have their own policy and can make their decision at earnings reporting date. But, whether the It is widely and easy available nowadays, even thestar (free site) also got.had issue dividends in the past, isn't that published in their company prospectus or their annual report? Usually, a good brokerage firm will have the info on that company you may want to invest in. |
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Jan 15 2009, 01:40 PM
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QUOTE(AzerothJr @ Jan 15 2009, 11:48 AM) enquiry on some warrants. Now is really a bad bad time to buy call warrant. It's better to gamble at genting than buying this warrant Is 1. genting-cm 2. ioi-cj 3. sime-cg 4. resorts-ci All those good buy? Btw how can i get to check when the warrants going to due? |
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Jan 15 2009, 01:49 PM
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QUOTE(Singh_Kalan @ Jan 15 2009, 01:40 PM) Now is really a bad bad time to buy call warrant. It's better to gamble at genting than buying this warrant Hmm, can you explain more why is it so? Sorry me noob, never buy warrants before. Thanks in advance. |
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Jan 15 2009, 01:54 PM
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high risk high gain or vice versa
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Jan 15 2009, 01:54 PM
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QUOTE(AzerothJr @ Jan 15 2009, 01:49 PM) Hmm, can you explain more why is it so? Warrants are attractive due to it's leverage. Like some have commented, it's like using a small knife to cut a big tree. But call warrants are only atttractive in a bullish market, because the chances of it going higher is much better. Since call warrants has a short lifespan, the chances of regaining back the losses incurred might not materialize before their expiry. Sorry me noob, never buy warrants before. Thanks in advance. My advise is to stay away from it at least until you fully understand the risks involved. Don't be fooled by its 'cheap' entry price. |
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Jan 15 2009, 01:57 PM
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Global economy in recession but Malaysia Gov still deny that
.. read out http://www.sinchew-i.com/node/69447?tid=1, damn bloody disappointed wif stupid gov, many countries already start launching stimulus plan and also cut interest, what local gov has been doing ??? wtf |
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Jan 15 2009, 01:57 PM
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QUOTE(AzerothJr @ Jan 15 2009, 01:49 PM) Hmm, can you explain more why is it so? You only buy CW or W or those high gearing stuff during bull time, which you use small knife cut big tree which is very useful and effective. Sorry me noob, never buy warrants before. Thanks in advance. But when tree is tumbling here and there. Taking a small knife and go to the forest and want to cut big tree, high probably you will hit by tumbling tree. Mainly because you only can gain through CW or W when market up time, while those CW has expiration ie. time is always against you, so even the mothershare manage to rise after this bear run end, but your CW cannot wait, as CW time frame or life-time simply too short as for longer term holding. |
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Jan 15 2009, 01:59 PM
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QUOTE(alivecmh @ Jan 15 2009, 01:57 PM) Global economy in recession but Malaysia Gov still deny that Isn't it, market already said/predicted gov will implement stimulus package II in the coming month? which could be range in 7-10 billions... read out http://www.sinchew-i.com/node/69447?tid=1, damn bloody disappointed wif stupid gov, many countries already start launching stimulus plan and also cut interest, what local gov has been doing ??? wtf |
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Jan 15 2009, 01:59 PM
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QUOTE(alivecmh @ Jan 15 2009, 01:57 PM) Global economy in recession but Malaysia Gov still deny that we do have stimulus package but the stimulus package is only for cronies counters... read out http://www.sinchew-i.com/node/69447?tid=1, damn bloody disappointed wif stupid gov, many countries already start launching stimulus plan and also cut interest, what local gov has been doing ??? wtf |
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Jan 15 2009, 02:05 PM
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QUOTE(Vv.SoViEt.vV @ Jan 15 2009, 01:59 PM) we do have stimulus package but the stimulus package is only for cronies counters. Else you expect our government to put money into our pocket like other government did?  Maybe they will say it won't works, look at all the countries which put money into people pocket, they still recess, right? So better to put money into the selected few, they might perform better. |
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Jan 15 2009, 02:08 PM
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QUOTE(Vv.SoViEt.vV @ Jan 15 2009, 01:59 PM) we do have stimulus package but the stimulus package is only for cronies counters. then buy the crony counters |
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Jan 15 2009, 02:09 PM
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QUOTE(Babablacksheep @ Jan 15 2009, 02:08 PM) then buy the crony counters I want to Mr C4 crony counters. |
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Jan 15 2009, 02:13 PM
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Yea. If you can't beat them, join them.
Be a parasite and suck it from the cronies. Btw, thanks everybody for the advise on those warrants & CW. Else I might go inside the jungle with a small knife and got eaten by the bear. |
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Jan 15 2009, 02:15 PM
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QUOTE(David83 @ Jan 15 2009, 02:09 PM) I want to Mr C4 crony counters. which counter? |
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Jan 15 2009, 02:15 PM
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QUOTE(mo_meng @ Jan 15 2009, 02:15 PM) which counter? Sorry ... I left out the word "know"I want to know Mr C4 crony counters. Anybody?  |
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Jan 15 2009, 02:17 PM
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QUOTE(David83 @ Jan 15 2009, 02:15 PM) Sorry ... I left out the word "know" Especially CIMB and BHICI want to know Mr C4 crony counters. Anybody? |
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Jan 15 2009, 02:18 PM
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Ain't recent rise from Uemland, Tebrau etc already signal something?
But those are typically goreng counter, so if you might be "goreng"ed instead of "goreng"ing. |
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Jan 15 2009, 02:20 PM
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QUOTE(cherroy @ Jan 15 2009, 02:18 PM) Ain't recent rise from Uemland, Tebrau etc already signal something? sorry blur bit .. signal on wat? But those are typically goreng counter, so if you might be "goreng"ed instead of "goreng"ing. |
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Jan 15 2009, 02:20 PM
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QUOTE(cherroy @ Jan 15 2009, 02:18 PM) Ain't recent rise from Uemland, Tebrau etc already signal something? there, the pro has spoken. But those are typically goreng counter, so if you might be "goreng"ed instead of "goreng"ing. |
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Jan 15 2009, 02:21 PM
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QUOTE(David83 @ Jan 15 2009, 02:15 PM) Sorry ... I left out the word "know" Does Scomi include inside C4 counter?I want to know Mr C4 crony counters. Anybody? |
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Jan 15 2009, 02:26 PM
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QUOTE(AzerothJr @ Jan 15 2009, 02:21 PM) Does Scomi include inside C4 counter? Going to expire soon... |
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Jan 15 2009, 02:32 PM
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QUOTE(htt @ Jan 15 2009, 02:26 PM) Going to expire soon... Haha, nice one. |
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Jan 15 2009, 02:59 PM
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wct 1.09 aha
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Jan 15 2009, 03:06 PM
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QUOTE(mo_meng @ Jan 15 2009, 02:59 PM) wct 1.09 aha Sobbing. Thought wanted to grab it...... But in the end nut shrink. Next time i earn 700 i run away already la. |
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Jan 15 2009, 03:09 PM
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go go, jump into the boat :-p but at ur own risk... i keep my bullet for the last 15 mins :-p
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Jan 15 2009, 03:17 PM
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QUOTE(alivecmh @ Jan 15 2009, 03:09 PM) go go, jump into the boat :-p but at ur own risk... i keep my bullet for the last 15 mins :-p I got 30 lots of IOI for 3.70. Dunno if that was a good idea. But def need to avg down. Stil avg price is 3.85  Added on January 15, 2009, 3:18 pm QUOTE(AzerothJr @ Jan 15 2009, 02:21 PM) Does Scomi include inside C4 counter? Scomi is rival of Mr C4's counter.This post has been edited by omores: Jan 15 2009, 03:18 PM |
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Jan 15 2009, 03:34 PM
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whoever enter today....WIN! But I'm too scared to enter. Whenever I feel
scared, tommorow will shoot very high... |
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Jan 15 2009, 03:42 PM
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QUOTE(gogo2 @ Jan 15 2009, 03:34 PM) whoever enter today....WIN! But I'm too scared to enter. Whenever I feel Greed when fear.scared, tommorow will shoot very high... |
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Jan 15 2009, 03:47 PM
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doubt tomorrow will be shooting anywhere... most likely to be trading sideways again~ hopes will be on pre-cny week~
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Jan 15 2009, 03:48 PM
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any 1 going for ranhill
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Jan 15 2009, 03:52 PM
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QUOTE(omores @ Jan 15 2009, 03:17 PM) I got 30 lots of IOI for 3.70. Dunno if that was a good idea. But def need to avg down. Stil avg price is 3.85 Omg. those 30 lots is already 110k. So "uh lui"Added on January 15, 2009, 3:18 pm Scomi is rival of Mr C4's counter. Good luck and wish that IoI will earn you lots of money. |
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Jan 15 2009, 03:55 PM
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QUOTE(AzerothJr @ Jan 15 2009, 03:52 PM) Omg. those 30 lots is already 110k. So "uh lui" 30 lots = 30X100 shares. Only 11k. Good luck and wish that IoI will earn you lots of money. |
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Jan 15 2009, 03:59 PM
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wassup with this PMIND-WA
all hentam at it only |
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Jan 15 2009, 04:09 PM
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i also dunno.
Suddenly saw 400k buy on it. Me like want to call my remisier to queue for it but scare. Left 0.005cents later bankrupt what also finish and don't know need to wait till when only can get the orders with 400k queue. |
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Jan 15 2009, 04:13 PM
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QUOTE(AzerothJr @ Jan 15 2009, 04:09 PM) i also dunno. 400k shares of 0.005 sens is RM2k only. I think people betting like Genting so see if they can sell at 0.01 sens.Suddenly saw 400k buy on it. Me like want to call my remisier to queue for it but scare. Left 0.005cents later bankrupt what also finish and don't know need to wait till when only can get the orders with 400k queue. |
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Jan 15 2009, 04:19 PM
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QUOTE(skiddtrader @ Jan 15 2009, 04:13 PM) 400k shares of 0.005 sens is RM2k only. I think people betting like Genting so see if they can sell at 0.01 sens. This is what people are hoping, that's why we see massive Q on 0.005.Those massive Q is not massive actually. But I would rather spend those 2K on Genting casino, as winning chance is much higher than it. My opinon only as it is trading at 200~300% premium because its mothershare just 0.035 only. If the company can revive, it is much better to take its mothershare instead of getting some that will expire next year or so. This post has been edited by cherroy: Jan 15 2009, 04:20 PM |
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Jan 15 2009, 04:35 PM
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market recovering some, so many bad news,US to night?down so many days, maybe, time to.....just maybe |
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Jan 15 2009, 04:39 PM
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No more fun. Everything is nearly over for today.
Lets hope for another black friday tomorrow so we can get bottom shares before the in-augurations. Me so noob. goes buy at 1.10 then sell at 1.12 then buy back at 1.10 cause i forget to cancel the sell order initially.  |
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Jan 15 2009, 04:47 PM
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life savers entering the market now!
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Jan 15 2009, 04:53 PM
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no trading done today .. hoping tml blood every way again
DF still red -61 |
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Jan 15 2009, 04:54 PM
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djia futures -77,, another bloody day for tomorrow
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Jan 15 2009, 04:56 PM
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gulp...oil comes to USD$36 jor.
why our petrol tarak turun!!! |
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Jan 15 2009, 04:59 PM
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QUOTE(panasonic88 @ Jan 15 2009, 04:56 PM) gulp...oil comes to USD$36 jor. Our petrol special mah... why our petrol tarak turun!!! |
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Jan 15 2009, 05:02 PM
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QUOTE(htt @ Jan 15 2009, 04:59 PM) Our petrol special mah... Yes 90% CPO 10% Crude Oil |
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Jan 15 2009, 05:04 PM
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QUOTE(AzerothJr @ Jan 15 2009, 04:39 PM) No more fun. Everything is nearly over for today. Did you even make a profit out of it?Lets hope for another black friday tomorrow so we can get bottom shares before the in-augurations. Me so noob. goes buy at 1.10 then sell at 1.12 then buy back at 1.10 cause i forget to cancel the sell order initially. |
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Jan 15 2009, 05:07 PM
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QUOTE(htt @ Jan 15 2009, 04:59 PM) Our petrol special mah... 40% cost and er...60% special taxes for very special people/usage |
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Jan 15 2009, 05:08 PM
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0.36% profit.. hehe
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Jan 15 2009, 05:11 PM
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QUOTE(eltaria @ Jan 15 2009, 05:04 PM) Did you even make a profit out of it? If I didn't calculate wrongly, I made a 0.34% profit.I don't know yet, me so noob maybe I calculated wrongly as well. |
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Jan 15 2009, 05:12 PM
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QUOTE(mo_meng @ Jan 15 2009, 04:53 PM) no trading done today .. hoping tml blood every way again Just like CNY, red red everywhere... DF still red -61 |
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Jan 15 2009, 05:15 PM
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QUOTE(AzerothJr @ Jan 15 2009, 05:11 PM) If I didn't calculate wrongly, I made a 0.34% profit. It'll be a bit higher, as consider intraday trade...I don't know yet, me so noob maybe I calculated wrongly as well. So you'll get the 0.001% or the min brokerage rate mostly |
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Jan 15 2009, 05:15 PM
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QUOTE(AzerothJr @ Jan 15 2009, 04:39 PM) No more fun. Everything is nearly over for today. how many units you buy?Lets hope for another black friday tomorrow so we can get bottom shares before the in-augurations. Me so noob. goes buy at 1.10 then sell at 1.12 then buy back at 1.10 cause i forget to cancel the sell order initially. me help u to calculate |
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Jan 15 2009, 05:16 PM
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100,000 units ?
intra day brokerage fee very cheap only, around 1-2% |
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Jan 15 2009, 05:20 PM
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intraday i din apply tim .. next time should go back to apply for this as well
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Jan 15 2009, 05:26 PM
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QUOTE(mo_meng @ Jan 15 2009, 05:20 PM) intraday i din apply tim .. next time should go back to apply for this as well intraday needs to "apply" one ka? |
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Jan 15 2009, 05:36 PM
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I don't think anyone need to apply. Just buy and sell on the same day will be consider as intraday contra.
QUOTE(panasonic88 @ Jan 15 2009, 05:26 PM) intraday needs to "apply" one ka? |
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Jan 15 2009, 05:37 PM
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QUOTE(chyaw @ Jan 15 2009, 05:36 PM) I don't think anyone need to apply. Just buy and sell on the same day will be consider as intraday contra. yahlor, exactly what i think.today buy, today sell = intraday. need not to apply or whatsoever. |
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Jan 15 2009, 05:39 PM
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no le .. i remember my remisier ask me to fill in a form last time for intraday one lea
Added on January 15, 2009, 5:39 pmapply for the special rate for intraday .. this is wat i remember la correct me if im wrong using aseambankers This post has been edited by mo_meng: Jan 15 2009, 05:39 PM |
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Jan 15 2009, 05:43 PM
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Why DJI down so much ??.. Because somebody is planned... so that market will be up high on 20th. when OBAMA taking office.. Actually a strong rebound .. Now buy on dip....Sure win. |
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Jan 15 2009, 05:55 PM
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how sure ur thw market will sure bounce up?
current market might already taking obama issues into it ;P |
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Jan 15 2009, 06:24 PM
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QUOTE(AzerothJr @ Jan 15 2009, 05:11 PM) If I didn't calculate wrongly, I made a 0.34% profit. You can use the HwangDBS calculator (HwangDBS calchttp://www.einvest.com.my/nettrade/forum/frm_Calcstk.asp?fromsidebar=yes)I don't know yet, me so noob maybe I calculated wrongly as well. |
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Jan 15 2009, 06:36 PM
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For my case, i have to fill up a form to allow intraday, else will charge base on normal rate.
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Jan 15 2009, 06:40 PM
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QUOTE(alivecmh @ Jan 15 2009, 06:36 PM) For my case, i have to fill up a form to allow intraday, else will charge base on normal rate. ... and you are using which securities firm ?How about MBB Online ? Need to submit or auto for intraday ? |
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Jan 15 2009, 06:57 PM
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HLEbroking..best 1 |
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Jan 15 2009, 08:22 PM
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You all need to fill up forms?
yeah, HLE is auto intra day rates.. Won't say it's the best though... This post has been edited by eltaria: Jan 15 2009, 08:22 PM |
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Jan 15 2009, 08:46 PM
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QUOTE(alivecmh @ Jan 15 2009, 05:16 PM) intra day brokerage fee very cheap only, around 1-2% To be accurate, most charge 0.15% for intraday. |
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Jan 15 2009, 08:48 PM
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how bout min charges?
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Jan 15 2009, 08:52 PM
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QUOTE(mo_meng @ Jan 15 2009, 08:48 PM) how bout min charges? Still the same ie. Rm12 or Rm28 (as normal rate) |
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Jan 15 2009, 08:59 PM
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long time didnt come in liao... v20 alr!! wao! anyone making big money b4 CNY??
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Jan 15 2009, 09:02 PM
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Jan 15 2009, 09:42 PM
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QUOTE(hanif444 @ Jan 15 2009, 06:57 PM) HLEbroking..best 1 Yes, i'm using also. So far okay for me except some interruption a few weeks ago. |
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Jan 15 2009, 09:44 PM
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Outlook for steel companies : http://bursastreet.blogspot.com/
Overall "Underperform/Sell/Underweight" but Kinsteel was upgraded! Don't think steel counters will go up anytime soon.... |
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Jan 15 2009, 10:21 PM
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QUOTE(cute_boboi @ Jan 15 2009, 06:40 PM) ... and you are using which securities firm ? I'm using MBB stock online since 2004, no need to submit anything for intraday, the system will automatically calculate for you.How about MBB Online ? Need to submit or auto for intraday ? |
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Jan 15 2009, 10:25 PM
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Intra-day trading is buy and sell on the same day? Or within T+3?
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Jan 15 2009, 10:28 PM
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QUOTE(David83 @ Jan 15 2009, 10:25 PM) Intra-day trading is buy and sell on the same day? Or within T+3? intra day = today buy, today sellcontra = sell before T+3 This post has been edited by panasonic88: Jan 15 2009, 10:28 PM |
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Jan 15 2009, 10:29 PM
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same day
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Jan 15 2009, 10:29 PM
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QUOTE(David83 @ Jan 15 2009, 11:25 PM) Intra-day trading is buy and sell on the same day? Or within T+3? On the same day. thats y some trader will sell even though they are losing money as the charges is low if you do intraday trade. |
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Jan 15 2009, 10:30 PM
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But still subjected to the min brokerage fee of min RM 14/28 (standard) right?
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Jan 15 2009, 10:31 PM
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QUOTE(David83 @ Jan 15 2009, 10:30 PM) But still subjected to the min brokerage fee of min RM 14/28 (standard) right? for intra day, brokerage fees is 0.15% only.This post has been edited by panasonic88: Jan 15 2009, 10:32 PM |
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Jan 15 2009, 10:33 PM
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DJIA opens in RED: 8,183.50 -16.64 -0.20%
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Jan 15 2009, 10:33 PM
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one time only rite .. not double charges as buy n sell?
Added on January 15, 2009, 10:36 pmhttp://finance.yahoo.com/news/New-jobless-claims-increase-apf-14069467.html New jobless claims increase more than expected This post has been edited by mo_meng: Jan 15 2009, 10:36 PM |
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Jan 15 2009, 10:57 PM
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New jobless claims increase more than expected
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Jan 15 2009, 11:04 PM
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will today drop more than 200 again? if yes tml shopping spree again
btw jpmorgan report is better than expected current DJIA -95.34 |
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Jan 15 2009, 11:07 PM
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guess tomorrow is going to be RED RED again
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Jan 15 2009, 11:10 PM
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like ur logo now -112 come on drop below 8k
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Jan 15 2009, 11:24 PM
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8069.44 -130.70 -1.59% 10:13 still going down
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Jan 15 2009, 11:28 PM
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-177 now till -23 more to break 8k
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Jan 15 2009, 11:31 PM
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erm... interesting.. the fall is few days dy.... and still keep falling....
and news in finance.yahoo.com also don't look good. It'll be hard for Dow to end up in positive region... |
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Jan 15 2009, 11:36 PM
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if break 8k will it free fall? wat is the support level after this
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Jan 15 2009, 11:37 PM
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QUOTE(mo_meng @ Jan 15 2009, 11:36 PM) if break 8k will it free fall? wat is the support level after this eventhough dropping, i dun think it'll drop below 8k. But if it does, I'll be very happy... |
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Jan 15 2009, 11:42 PM
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seems to be holding, i think it will rebound in the afternoon session
8028.82 -171.32 -2.09% 10:34 |
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Jan 16 2009, 01:06 AM
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do u think market will rebound b4 cny? one of my investor fren told me usually ppl dont want to hold stocks over festive season partly becuz fund managers will be gone and also certain small investors wld be pressured to take money(sell shares) to spend on travelling/festive reasons.. so better stay sideline until after cny. who knows, after that may even drop some more as local ppl anticipate more slow down after that.
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Jan 16 2009, 02:12 AM
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as at now, crude oil drop worse about usd33
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Jan 16 2009, 02:14 AM
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33.5
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Jan 16 2009, 06:44 AM
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DJ hanged on, on the 350b? Wonder how the Friday is going to be?
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Jan 16 2009, 06:51 AM
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Now up already.
Dow 8,212.49 +12.35 +0.15% |
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Jan 16 2009, 07:26 AM
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Not bad for DJIA to make a sharp U-turn to close slightly greener.
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Jan 16 2009, 07:28 AM
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QUOTE(kb2005 @ Jan 16 2009, 06:51 AM) Now up already. Of course it is..almost everybody was crying blood earlier in the evening.. now it is positive by morning. Dow 8,212.49 +12.35 +0.15% Definitely no clear way to see which direction it will take.. the market will go where it wants to go.. it doesn't care what other thinks, no doubt about that! As for OIL, $35/barrel is not bad.. but $30 is may not be too far fetched either..due to excess inventory but looks like OPEC is going to tighten the faucet up another notch. We will see OIL will climb back up sharply in 3-4 weeks time. |
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Jan 16 2009, 07:35 AM
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They are just pushing it up so it look good for the new president only.
The fluctuations yesterday alone is nearly 600points in Dow. But at least it will give a minor bull run. |
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Jan 16 2009, 07:38 AM
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Oil is nearing USD 35 but our pump price has not been reviewed since end December 2008 and mid January 2009. How come?
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Jan 16 2009, 07:48 AM
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They said not revising the petrol price this week.
Don't bother to wait just go pump your tank. If drop also give you just a 10cent incentives only. (Just approximate RM4.00 only). Your trading fee also much higher then that. |
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Jan 16 2009, 07:59 AM
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Today should be a green green, a very good opportunity to take profit is bought yesterday. Come on, WCT shoot sky rocket ....
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Jan 16 2009, 08:09 AM
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QUOTE(alivecmh @ Jan 16 2009, 07:59 AM) Today should be a green green, a very good opportunity to take profit is bought yesterday. Come on, WCT shoot sky rocket .... C'mon Zelan, shoot back to 0.905 |
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Jan 16 2009, 08:23 AM
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QUOTE(alivecmh @ Jan 16 2009, 07:59 AM) Today should be a green green, a very good opportunity to take profit is bought yesterday. Come on, WCT shoot sky rocket .... Don't think it'll be green green.. but with what I've been seeing lately, I guess anything can happen.Consider lucky if can gain back yesterday's losses. |
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Jan 16 2009, 08:27 AM
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Hope IOICORP could be lower since CPO dropped.
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Jan 16 2009, 09:01 AM
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this kind of market how should i choose which stock to buy aii
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Jan 16 2009, 09:17 AM
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regional market all green but local market in red.... Malaysia really boleh.
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Jan 16 2009, 09:18 AM
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Don't know.
So boring don't know which stock to buy. Don't know if can buy or not. Market sentiment still so bad. Hais. Tonight we go enjoy ourself and forget all about share markets. Fast ask the CPO to drop below 1,600. Then we should see lots of nice things. |
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Jan 16 2009, 09:26 AM
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Morning volume as usual very thin.... Only in the afternoon you can start to see some actions.
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Jan 16 2009, 09:35 AM
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Nobody playing those Monday divident stocks?
There are a few counters scheduled and today is the last day. |
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Jan 16 2009, 09:37 AM
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which counters
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Jan 16 2009, 09:46 AM
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Ramunia shoot up significantly today. Don't know what happen to this counter. I sold my @0.335 (make enough for a meal
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Jan 16 2009, 09:58 AM
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QUOTE(chyaw @ Jan 16 2009, 09:46 AM) Ramunia shoot up significantly today. Don't know what happen to this counter. I sold my @0.335 (make enough for a meal lol why is there a sad face, havent make enuf huh, then dun sell la ) |
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Jan 16 2009, 10:05 AM
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today some OnG being goreng i think...ramunia...oilcorp one of them...hehehehe......when is sapcres turn ar??? i wan angpow angpow just b4 CNY leh!!! I wan bull run not bull shit
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Jan 16 2009, 10:05 AM
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It was the resultant of my last week goreng. Ramunia was never in my "to buy" list. Just buy for fun. Previously, I thought this counter already "hangus". So, everyday I put my selling price 0.005 higher than my purchase price... Anyway, better than losing money!!
QUOTE(panasonic88 @ Jan 16 2009, 09:58 AM) lol why is there a sad face, havent make enuf huh, then dun sell la |
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Jan 16 2009, 10:08 AM
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wow, ramunia shoot up. queue to sell earlier 50 lots to break even at 0.335.
Just checked all matched. got only teh tarik. Now gonna take profit so remaining 100 lots at 0.35 |
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Jan 16 2009, 10:10 AM
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free teh tarik, better than nothing
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Jan 16 2009, 10:10 AM
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q resorts at 2.2 again haha .. come back to daddy come
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Jan 16 2009, 10:14 AM
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QUOTE(mo_meng @ Jan 16 2009, 10:10 AM) q resorts at 2.2 again haha .. come back to daddy come geez..i am still loosing for resort..coz bought at 2.39.. |
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Jan 16 2009, 10:15 AM
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wow i got to know that my bonus is pretty "kao"
shall divide nicely, i wan KLK, KLK, KLK!!! |
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Jan 16 2009, 10:20 AM
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QUOTE(panasonic88 @ Jan 16 2009, 10:15 AM) wow i got to know that my bonus is pretty "kao" So syiok!!...enuf to push up KLCI 10 points?shall divide nicely, i wan KLK, KLK, KLK!!! |
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Jan 16 2009, 10:21 AM
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siao...wont larrr
me mini little small player only. |
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Jan 16 2009, 10:22 AM
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QUOTE(mo_meng @ Jan 16 2009, 09:37 AM) which counters I only heard of a few. Think there is more to the list.PBBank BJToto 1 more I can't remember. |
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Jan 16 2009, 10:30 AM
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QUOTE(kmarc @ Jan 15 2009, 09:44 PM) Outlook for steel companies : http://bursastreet.blogspot.com/ Steel counters might need longer time frame, as they need economy recovery insight which only then steel price will go up and capacity utilisation being improved.Overall "Underperform/Sell/Underweight" but Kinsteel was upgraded! Don't think steel counters will go up anytime soon....Short term it more plays on stimulus packages short term boost. QUOTE(AzerothJr @ Jan 16 2009, 07:35 AM) They are just pushing it up so it look good for the new president only. I don't think so, US is not Malaysia, they don't need to have market to look good for the image. The fluctuations yesterday alone is nearly 600points in Dow. But at least it will give a minor bull run. My opinion, it is more about technical strong support which Dow has in the region of 7900-8000 level, which previously also bounce off from it level, |
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Jan 16 2009, 10:34 AM
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Today volume and value so little.
KNM not moving up/down much also. |
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Jan 16 2009, 10:34 AM
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panasonic mind to tell how many month ur "kau" bonus?
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Jan 16 2009, 10:40 AM
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http://www.themalaysianinsider.com/index.p...on-scomis-chief
US slaps sanctions on Scomi's chief KUALA LUMPUR, Jan 16 - The decision by the United States to slap sanctions on a Malaysian businessman with close ties to Prime Minister Abdullah Badawi's son is set to revive debate over the country's role in the clandestine nuclear-smuggling network headed by rogue Pakistani scientist Abdul Qadeer Khan. Shah Hakim Shahzanim Zain, chief executive officer (CEO) and major shareholder of Malaysian engineering powerhouse Scomi Group, was designated by the US State Department |
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Jan 16 2009, 10:43 AM
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QUOTE(cherroy @ Jan 16 2009, 10:30 AM) Steel counters might need longer time frame, as they need economy recovery insight which only then steel price will go up and capacity utilisation being improved. wow which means, if Dow support doesnt break, we will see a rebound soon Short term it more plays on stimulus packages short term boost. I don't think so, US is not Malaysia, they don't need to have market to look good for the image. My opinion, it is more about technical strong support which Dow has in the region of 7900-8000 level, which previously also bounce off from it level, if break, god bless jor. QUOTE(mo_meng @ Jan 16 2009, 10:34 AM) panasonic mind to tell how many month ur "kau" bonus? kenot lar! |
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Jan 16 2009, 10:48 AM
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haha nvm la just wanna survey bit je
dont think can get resort at 2.2 today |
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Jan 16 2009, 10:55 AM
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I wanna get resort at 2.1 can ah. Now still holding it at 2.5 la...
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Jan 16 2009, 10:56 AM
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Ramunia, anyone??
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Jan 16 2009, 11:01 AM
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2.1 dont thk will drop till that level else .. DJ drop to 7k
Added on January 16, 2009, 11:02 am QUOTE(yeeeeko @ Jan 16 2009, 10:55 AM) I wanna get resort at 2.1 can ah. Now still holding it at 2.5 la... should sell when it reach 2.45 last timeThis post has been edited by mo_meng: Jan 16 2009, 11:02 AM |
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Jan 16 2009, 11:03 AM
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QUOTE(panasonic88 @ Jan 16 2009, 10:43 AM) wow which means, if Dow support doesnt break, we will see a rebound soon Yesterday, already rebound 200+ points straight away after reaching 79xx.if break, god bless jor. kenot lar! Over the long term chart, strong support is seen at 7,600 which has to be tracked back to 911. If it breaks, then Chart qouted from Yahoo finance. Attached thumbnail(s) 
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Jan 16 2009, 11:05 AM
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Today volume soo low, seems like it might not even hit 500k today.
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Jan 16 2009, 11:05 AM
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if break than will c dj at 6k
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Jan 16 2009, 11:07 AM
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Ramunia is quite unusual. Basically, not many people want to buy it. However, there is a few big fish buying it. If you notice for the past 3 times shoot up, it happens very sudden, then minimum volume. This morning, less than 1/2 hr price increase so much. Now, not much volume...
QUOTE(speedguy10 @ Jan 16 2009, 10:56 AM) Ramunia, anyone?? |
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Jan 16 2009, 11:12 AM
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QUOTE(mo_meng @ Jan 16 2009, 11:05 AM) if break than will c dj at 6k There are at least 3-4 previous support level that can be drawn out which in the region of 7500-8000.Below that, from the chart, no support level can be found except in the region of 5-6K which formed during 1996-1997. Chart qouted from Yahoo finance. Attached thumbnail(s) 
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Jan 16 2009, 11:15 AM
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than at that time we can hv super duper mega sales
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Jan 16 2009, 11:17 AM
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QUOTE(cherroy @ Jan 16 2009, 11:12 AM) There are at least 3-4 previous support level that can be drawn out which in the region of 7500-8000. i personally do not think djones will go below 7500Below that, from the chart, no support level can be found except in the region of 5-6K which formed during 1996-1997. Chart qouted from Yahoo finance. max i give 7800 my opinion only |
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Jan 16 2009, 11:19 AM
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maybe tonite will break below 8000, tonight Bank of America and Citigroup to announce 4Q result. Yesterday DJIA plunge was mainly due to BoA and Citigroup.
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Jan 16 2009, 11:20 AM
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Wah. Today whole region all green except Malaysia & Thailand.
At least we still had a partner. |
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Jan 16 2009, 11:22 AM
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maybe CI will show some green in the afternoon
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Jan 16 2009, 11:26 AM
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QUOTE(mo_meng @ Jan 16 2009, 11:22 AM) maybe CI will show some green in the afternoon Friday afternoon normally won't unless there is obvious cause for that. |
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Jan 16 2009, 11:48 AM
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anyone wanna get in some sapres?
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Jan 16 2009, 11:48 AM
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146 posts Joined: Dec 2008 From: Klang, Sel
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QUOTE(htt @ Jan 16 2009, 11:26 AM) Friday afternoon normally won't unless there is obvious cause for that. Friday is selling day. In times of crisis, people tend to be pesimistic rather then optimistic. Don't think there would be any big local news that would shake our CI for the upcoming weeks. We would probably follow the global trend & global news. Dow sinks deep we sinks deep, dow float high we float high, dow nearly unchanged we mixed. |
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Jan 16 2009, 11:55 AM
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400 posts Joined: Jun 2007
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sold my remaining 100 lots ramunia at 0.35 ..............now it's 0.36......
bought at 0.325 well, at least got something more than teh tarik today. |
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Jan 16 2009, 11:56 AM
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518 posts Joined: Jul 2008
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helo ....
guide me some . this morning Oilcorp seem a pretty good signal to buy . guide me if im wrong .... and Sapcres today Seem there a little among of people trying to stock in . if this a low buy signal ? Guide me pls if im wrong ... |
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Jan 16 2009, 11:56 AM
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3,589 posts Joined: Mar 2005 From: Bolehland
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all KNM gorengers switch to ramunia?
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Jan 16 2009, 11:58 AM
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Senior Member
4,030 posts Joined: Apr 2008
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GO RAMUNIA!!!
Added on January 16, 2009, 12:00 pmBIg blocks buying for Ramunia.... let's go ramunia, let's go back to 50 cents This post has been edited by AdamG1981: Jan 16 2009, 12:00 PM |
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Jan 16 2009, 12:01 PM
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Junior Member
400 posts Joined: Jun 2007
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hai ya,,, ramunia still going strong... sold too soon. Should have listened to Adam's target price.
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Jan 16 2009, 12:08 PM
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All Stars
52,874 posts Joined: Jan 2003
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RAMUNIA gained 5 cents! Bravo!
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Jan 16 2009, 12:09 PM
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2,646 posts Joined: Oct 2008
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adam bravo again .. any next target?
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Jan 16 2009, 12:12 PM
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1,217 posts Joined: Aug 2005 From: d' Kay El
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QUOTE(lonewolf @ Jan 16 2009, 10:14 AM) geez..i am still loosing for resort..coz bought at 2.39.. Resorts crawling back up. Dropped to 2.220. Currently at 2.250. Added on January 16, 2009, 12:14 pmWhoa.. Ramunia at 0.370 edy. Up almost 18% This post has been edited by Freelancer: Jan 16 2009, 12:14 PM |
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Jan 16 2009, 12:16 PM
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All Stars
23,851 posts Joined: Dec 2006
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QUOTE(AdamG1981 @ Jan 16 2009, 11:58 AM) GO RAMUNIA!!! Up Up Up , 50sen.Added on January 16, 2009, 12:00 pmBIg blocks buying for Ramunia.... let's go ramunia, let's go back to 50 cents Congratulation. |
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Jan 16 2009, 12:18 PM
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All Stars
52,874 posts Joined: Jan 2003
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I was discussing with my friend about RAMUNIA this morning.
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Jan 16 2009, 12:25 PM
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4,030 posts Joined: Apr 2008
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LOL, thanks guys.
I revised my target ...... let's make it 60 cents. LOL.... |
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Jan 16 2009, 12:38 PM
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Junior Member
400 posts Joined: Jun 2007
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sold all ramunia already for small gain. Should buy somemore??
Adam your TP=60cents.. so high ah. If can get near to 50cents also I will cabut again. |
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Jan 16 2009, 12:40 PM
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4,030 posts Joined: Apr 2008
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QUOTE(yeeeeko @ Jan 15 2009, 09:38 PM) sold all ramunia already for small gain. Should buy somemore?? Yup, i am willing to wait. Adam your TP=60cents.. so high ah. If can get near to 50cents also I will cabut again. |
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Jan 16 2009, 12:41 PM
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Senior Member
3,944 posts Joined: Jul 2008
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What factor pushing ramunia up? Buying above 40 sen will be risky already i think.
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Jan 16 2009, 12:51 PM
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37,028 posts Joined: Jan 2003 From: Petaling Jaya
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goreng goreng!!!
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