Stuff are like these are done at moderator's discretion, FYI, there arent strict guidelines for stuff like these. If you disagree, u can always PM the moderator who did what (in this case me) and argue your point, and i would gladly work together with you. There's no need for sarcasm. if u have a problem with me, so be it. now do stick to the topic on hand. thank you.

u got me all wrong man..
seriously ... kopitiam needs efficient staff like u..

I dont really care about speaker contact problem. for me it can easily fixed. as long as theres no other major hardware defect such as pcb, screen, wlan etc.
I'll get one soon..

i think this thread title is misleading.
it's not the phone has problem so the phone is selling off cheaply. 

Selling cheaply obviously got no relation with the phone problem.

Indeed. The reason why Nokia is selling at this price point is to get back some market shares(as told by one of my authorised Nokia dealer friend), also to fight AP dealers at the same time. Why would you think Nokia will risk such move that can greatly affect its reputation.

I think this is an important issue which merits a thread to catch the attention of potential buyers, in the topic title itself. With thousands of posts in hundreds of pages in the now v3 of Nokia 5800 specific threads, some people might miss this important defect of Nokia XM5800.

I have been (and still is) seriously considering buying Nokia 5800, after years of not upgrading. Since I came to know of Nokia 5800, I have given iPhone, Blackberry and LG Renoir a pass.

With AP set selling at RM1500 -1650 one week ago, it came as a pleasant surprise that the original sets can be had for as low as RM1335 from various LYN dealers in past one week. I am not familiar with handphones market, but rarely if ever do retail price of original sets go lower than AP sets, and this must have caught many AP sets dealers by surprise!

Though the launch date is a few days from now, some posters in the 5800 thread are saying that the RRP of original Nokia 5800 is RM1499. Why Nokia themselves give us such a good deal? With its functionality, style, and hype, a price of RM1700 - 1800 should still remain competitive against other touch screen phones!

Now there is one very plausible reason. Looking at this poll http://forum.lowyat.net/topic/897979, about half users experienced erratic earphone volume problem within days of usage! And those that fortunately have not (yet) might get it later on! Reading through Nokia 5800 threads, this problem is attributed to manufacture defect whereby the earphones does not have good contact with the circuit board. Though it is claimed to be easily repaired, the questions that keep bugging me as a potential serious (but not so easily swayed by excitement/'poison' ;-) ) are:
Some argue that earphone volume is not big deal, but isn't a phone primary function voice call? For me, it must be a tool first, a gadget distant second, and a toy never.

Don't get be wrong. I am not campagning against XM 5800. RM1350 is still a fairly good price for all its good features, even if one use it as a PDA-cum-Bluetooth earpiece phone. But psycologically, when the problem hits you, when it fails your expectation, RM1350 will suddenly seem pricey. You will start asking: no wonder Nokia prices XM 5800 orig so low.

So, for those who have not bought but consider buying it, be a smart discerning calm consumer, and better start asking now rather than later:
(As an aside, apparently those Finland sets are okay, but those made in China sets are defective. That is why many users in forums of Chinese users found out the issues first.)

What's the price now for ori set?. Am thinking of getting this after I've collected enough money. But seeing all these complaints about earpiece problems. Considering that this is supposed to be a multimedia phone, volume problems for a phone of this calibre is unacceptable. This upgrade is a big leap from my current 2310.    So I would expect great reliability from a phone worth 10x more.

I just hope that if I ever get this phone, all probs should come out within the warranty period, if I ever get one. I was thinking of either this, or the waaaaaay cheaper 5320.

Kinda like a supercar this 5800. It's got the power, the looks, the excitement, the hype, but it'll break down or explode after a few miles.

wow what a good comparison with car..
but i don't think it explode.
service perhaps?
but problems solve when u send it to repair or DIY
here's the link http://forum.lowyat.net/topic/897935/+720&#entry22781665

Wow, pretty easy.
But I wouldn't do this very early though.    I'm pretty brave at fixing mechanicals, but electronics, not so. Electronics are still too "magical" for me. 

i agree ! i sent to nokia and they said my phone is from china, and nokia msia not yet launch 5800. so anything on the market now is not considered official and nokia will not entertain us, because they dont recognize these phones as 'official'. i even show the warranty card and stuff like that..... useless also....

seems like AVAXX is considered AP phone also ? should go for zitron which is due launch officially?

my apologies then. and yes, i do now authority in kopitiam, now that i'm a full fledged mod. feel free to report.

relax bro...   
now back to topic.. what is if the 5800 still hv the problem after launching? should avaxx n zitron fix it if it china made?

Got another problem...

"Walao eh, found out another defect just now.

Was listening to Oasis thru the stock headset, then my fren called, I cant lower the volume!!!! Not thru the remote and phone itself.

Aiseh.. Nokia service centre, please take note!!!"

this is a quote from Demitri from the 5800 v3 thread...

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Added on January 7, 2009, 4:54 ama review from a website:

http://symbian-freak.com/news/008/12/why_c...imary_phone.htm

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Added on January 7, 2009, 5:01 am

this a a very new phone, and fyi nokia hasn't made a touchscreen phone for quite some time.. some reports screen having permanent horizontal lines, screen becoming dim, etc..

nobody can safely say there's no major hardware defect as nobody has used it more than 2-3 months or more.

the earpiece prob also happened after a few days and for some after a few weeks using the phone..maybe in 1-2 months more there could be another prob. we can't really be sure..

i think this thread title is misleading.
it's not the phone has problem so the phone is selling off cheaply. 

Selling cheaply obviously got no relation with the phone problem.

Wow, pretty easy.
But I wouldn't do this very early though.    I'm pretty brave at fixing mechanicals, but electronics, not so. Electronics are still too "magical" for me. 

Indeed. The reason why Nokia is selling at this price point is to get back some market shares(as told by one of my authorised Nokia dealer friend), also to fight AP dealers at the same time. Why would you think Nokia will risk such move that can greatly affect its reputation.

I would say this is a first for above 1k price range..

We could only say nokia is selling at this price point is to get back some market shares IF ori n97 prices are also cheaper than AP prices. we'll wait and see if nokia is really trying to get market shares back...

IMO, nokia AP phones are also NOKIA phones and as long as they sell it off it doesn't matter to them globally.

for me the price of nokia 5800 is cheap because of the country it's made in and the materials that it's made of.
made in china-cheaper costs
use a lot of plastics-cheaper costs

that's y u dont see a low priced nokia 8800. the 8800 series is build of high end materials and that's y it doesn't come cheap. main point here is that the price is cheap because of what the phone is made of.

Indeed. The reason why Nokia is selling at this price point is to get back some market shares(as told by one of my authorised Nokia dealer friend), also to fight AP dealers at the same time. Why would you think Nokia will risk such move that can greatly affect its reputation.