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 Defects of Nokia 5800 that you should know, ~ 50% sets have earpiece volume problem!

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post Jan 14 2009, 04:45 PM

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QUOTE(wayfeel @ Jan 13 2009, 10:49 PM)
some typical sellers who look to fast profit, even dare tag their xm 1.599k in kk lol
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Where in KK. Me want to burn them down dry.gif
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post Jan 14 2009, 05:10 PM

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QUOTE(eddyann @ Jan 13 2009, 02:23 PM)
at 1st thinking of getting one. but the lagging thing, changed my mind. better wait for the upcoming N97, surely beats 5800 anytime. by the way price in malacca is RM 1390 zitron set. cheap or not
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N97 price will be doubled Nokia 5800.
RM 1390 Zitron set? Pls go for it...
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post Jan 14 2009, 05:24 PM

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if the price is lower than 1400 for zitron set, worth to get the phone even as some of the users said got a lot of problem n defects, but still in warranty. nowadays really hard to get a multi-functions touchscreen phone wif tat price smile.gif
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post Jan 14 2009, 05:44 PM

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QUOTE(tunertoobe @ Jan 14 2009, 04:45 PM)
Where in KK. Me want to burn them down  dry.gif
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go to metro then u know. they well known of cut throat prices.
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post Jan 14 2009, 07:01 PM

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QUOTE(tunertoobe @ Jan 14 2009, 04:45 PM)
Where in KK. Me want to burn them down  dry.gif
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wisma medeka. but i tink kk zitron rrp at 1.5k.

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post Jan 14 2009, 08:54 PM

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QUOTE(wayfeel @ Jan 14 2009, 07:01 PM)
wisma medeka. but i tink kk zitron rrp at 1.5k.
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I'll burn them down tomoro after work.
Just kidding. laugh.gif

Ya, Zitron at KK I saw 2 shops selling at RM1500. At Warisan Square and 1st floor at Centre Point. The latter can reduce to 1450.
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post Jan 15 2009, 12:05 AM

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the CPS one u mentioned i think is a pretty good shop, MPS. cuz i see many customers (buying) many times. some models they sell mostly APs, if not all. what do u think of good vendor in CPS?

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Latest update with my phone : I'm posting this frm my 5800 at kfc jalan universiti. The phone has crashed on me several times, sometimes with cryptic symbian error codes. Applications also hung and terminated themselves from time to time. Reminds me of Vista in the earliest days before patches and horfixes.. Anyway the gps seems to work best when I'm on digi and sluggish when I'm on maxis, dunno why since both are postpaid. Havent tried Celcom yet. Third party apps that utilizes the Internet sometimes get stuck in endless limbo trying to connect but for some unknown reason, the dialogue box asking u to choose which connection to use sometimes never appear.. This happened to both Opera Mini and Java based JMirc. After the phone crashed a few times, now I get a small pale blue box on top right hand side of the screen sort of like a debug msg showing what the phone is trying to do. Weird. I'll post a screenshot of it later. I'll try a factory restore later and see if the same behavior returns. Hopefully Nokia is hard working on patches rite now! Another issue, my Device Manager shows a 192mhz cpu, but I think gsmarena spec put it at 362mhz right? Can u guys check war r ur hardware specs as well? Thanks!
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post Jan 15 2009, 03:09 PM

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BAD REVIEWS from Gsmarena.com.

Main disadvantages:

* Limited 3rd party software availability
* UI is still immature with somewhat dodgy user experience
* Touchscreen sensitivity not the best in the class
* No smart dialing
* Poor image quality and no GPS geotagging
* No voice-guided navigation license
* No office document editing out-of-the-box
* Doesn't charge off microUSB

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Anyway, the exterior gives a nice sturdy impression, which however is ruined by the almost constant unwelcome creaks by the rear cover - the Nokia 5800 looks and feels more like a wobbly slider than a monolith block.


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Unfortunatelly the legibility of the display under direct sunlight is rather poor.

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Nokia 5800 XpressMusic uses a resistive touchscreen as opposed to the capacitive displays in devices like LG Prada and Apple iPhone 3G. This means there's a need for a bit of extra pressure to the screen for a click to be registered.

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At this stage we're not looking at an elaborate touch interface but the first stages of touch-optimizing an existing UI. S60 is more of a curse than a blessing at this point. Honestly, at times we felt as if Nokia is using all 5800 users as a giant focus group to test out various elements of their new interface - try this scrolling and that scrolling - which one do you prefer?
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the interface is obviously immature and the touch implementation inconsistent. The great asset - which could prove vital in the long run - is the familiarity, predictability and comfort of the original S60.

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In fact, we can't help but notice Nokia 5800 fails to make the best use of the screen estate that's available.


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The picture quality of Nokia 5800 XpressMusic is our main concern though. It falls well below the average performance of the 3MP cameras. The images look bad even on the portable screen itself let alone on a desktop computer
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Thumb scrolling is an option everywhere but in listed menus it gets really bumpy. Instead of a smooth roll in response to every sweep (think Apple iPhone, LG Renoir, Samsung Pixon or Touch Diamond), there's a notable break as each line slowly revolves up or down.


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The main disadvantage of the Symbian 5th edition to competitors is its inconsistency. It uses one click here and double click there, you can flip through photos with finger sweeps but not SMS and emails - this whole thing is rather confusing, and annoying.


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OK then, what we have here is two newbies in the touchscreen league. A fact's a fact, but it's not exactly the kind of newbies everyone will look down at. Market leaders Nokia and the top selling smartphone platform


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introducing a mid-range handset to debut the touch-enabled S60 sure looks a smart move. It lowers the expectations (flaws are less of an issue) and makes sure the platform sells well so that it can build up a wider user and developer base. And once it has enough reach - and testing time - the real flagship descends to reap the benefits.


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For an even more effective camouflage, there goes the XpressMusic branding[cool.gif. And Nokia have done well to eclipse potential touch UI glitches with the best audio quality the house has pulled off to date.

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Sure you get an interface that's immature, inconsistent and quite clumsy but the package you get for that kind of cash is a bargain and even Nokia's sworn enemies admit that.


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And you can bet that there's a bargain at the other end too. Nokia's gain is feedback on its new Touch UI. We just hope that feedback gets smartly used.


http://www.gsmarena.com/nokia_5800_xpressm...-review-308.php

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post Jan 15 2009, 05:13 PM

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QUOTE(wayfeel @ Jan 15 2009, 12:05 AM)
the CPS one u mentioned i think is a pretty good shop, MPS. cuz i see many customers (buying) many times. some models they sell mostly APs, if not all. what do u think of good vendor in CPS?
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The lady at Centre Point seems to be very knowledgeable when it comes to her phones. She memorises the spec for almost every single one she's selling. I think I'm gonna buy from that shop. It is listed in Nokia's website, so that's for the peace of mind.
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post Jan 15 2009, 09:14 PM

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memorizing doesn;t that make you a great sales person:D

i think thier general review and pro and cons. i think consider better

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post Jan 16 2009, 10:52 PM

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QUOTE(whojen @ Jan 15 2009, 09:14 PM)
memorizing doesn;t  that make you a great sales person:D

i think thier general review and pro and cons. i think consider better
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Yes she was aware of the phones defects and advises no matter what, don't open it and try to fix it yourself. biggrin.gif
Overall she seems honest and nice.
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post Jan 25 2009, 07:05 AM

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QUOTE(RME-RAnger @ Jan 14 2009, 05:24 PM)
if the price is lower than 1400 for zitron set, worth to get the phone even as some of the users said got a lot of problem n defects, but still in warranty.  nowadays really hard to get a multi-functions touchscreen phone wif tat price smile.gif
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if prices reach 1.5k better get n85 or n95 8gb

if even at 1.4k or rm13xx better get n79.

functions wise and durability wise, those phones are better.

camera wise, even though it's Carl Zeiss, 5610XM camera is said to be a bit better.
if comparing 3MP carl zeiss optics, n73 and 6500c is much better in picture and video quality.

video capture wise, 5800 records very grainy/poor videos in low light or indoor conditions. even when recording in a room with lights on.

the only main attraction for the 5800 is the touchscreen, but once u tried an iPhone, you'll know that 5800 is not up to par. hence the low price


Added on February 20, 2009, 12:31 amso any updates?

This post has been edited by alpha_company: Feb 20 2009, 12:31 AM

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