You've got another step more (A-levels/STPM/Matric/etc) before getting into any degree program...~ Consider this step first...
i know. but, i'm stuck there too. my mother is opposed to me pursuing medicine whilst my father is in a whole different continent and it's hard to contact him what would you suggest cybersetan? my father said that i should opt 4 a-levels, but all the uni that i'm going now say that i should just go 4 foundation in science since its faster and more direct towards medicine.
i know. but, i'm stuck there too. my mother is opposed to me pursuing medicine whilst my father is in a whole different continent and it's hard to contact him what would you suggest cybersetan? my father said that i should opt 4 a-levels, but all the uni that i'm going now say that i should just go 4 foundation in science since its faster and more direct towards medicine.
foundation in science will not prepare you well enough for a decent medicine course... go do A-levels...
i know. but, i'm stuck there too. my mother is opposed to me pursuing medicine whilst my father is in a whole different continent and it's hard to contact him what would you suggest cybersetan? my father said that i should opt 4 a-levels, but all the uni that i'm going now say that i should just go 4 foundation in science since its faster and more direct towards medicine.
Of course the private universities would persuade you to join them as soon as possible. It's business to them. If you go to them for foundation, you'll be stuck with them for the next 6 years.
Follow your father's advice, he knows what is best for you.
This post has been edited by tehtmc: Feb 20 2012, 11:28 AM
the funny thing about my father is this tau, he says that i should go 4 a-levels, but at the same time he says, 'you go research bout all the courses, then tell daddy. bout that FIS (found.in sc) go laa ask around. if its better, might as well go for it kn? it IS faster as u say but daddy xtau laa. in my time, everything was different and ur mother and i just went for a-levels.' so? how now?
the funny thing about my father is this tau, he says that i should go 4 a-levels, but at the same time he says, 'you go research bout all the courses, then tell daddy. bout that FIS (found.in sc) go laa ask around. if its better, might as well go for it kn? it IS faster as u say but daddy xtau laa. in my time, everything was different and ur mother and i just went for a-levels.' so? how now?
The thing about foundation is that you'll be tied to that particular university. A-levels is universally recognized (except the IPTA's la), which opens you to all the options worldwide, including the top unis if you get excellent results.
If you have no other options, then only you go for the private unis.
if i wanted to do a-levels at a private uni, there won't be any bonding right? and then, if i do get good results in my pre-u, *hopefully i do* which uni should i go for my medical degree? if i could, i would want a degree that can enable me to practice not only in m'sia, but in other countries also. and i also heard that if a particular degree is not recognised by another country, (lets say ireland) then i can't do my specialization there. is that true? just want to clarify that statement,
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QUOTE(ABMKA @ Feb 20 2012, 12:47 PM)
if i wanted to do a-levels at a private uni, there won't be any bonding right? and then, if i do get good results in my pre-u, *hopefully i do* which uni should i go for my medical degree? if i could, i would want a degree that can enable me to practice not only inĀ m'sia, but in other countries also. andi also heard that if a particular degree is not recognised by another country, (lets say ireland) then i can't do my specialization there. is that true? just want to clarify that statement,
If you did A-Levels you can go almost anywhere you want (except perhaps our IPTAs)... You won't be bound to study in the same institution for your degree program.
... and regarding recognition of medical degrees... that is upto the country's medical council/board (eg; Malaysian Medical Council, Singapore's, India's, British. etc)....
... and about the specialist training question - not necessarily...
Take for example the MRCP (UK) or MRCGP (International), they have many exam centres all over the world catering for foreign medical graduates, the parent country itself (eg; UK) may not recognized the basic medical degree of the candidate but they allow them to take the exam anyway~ (one need to pass PLAB in order to actually be allowed to practice medicine in UK with their foreign medical degree)
actually, under current msia condition, that exam would have been a very welcome sieve............
problem is, the mmc wants ALL, including ipta/ipts students to sit....that of course does not sit well with some people.....it was politically unacceptable....
Added on February 24, 2012, 8:49 amoh ya, 1 more thing to ask. as zstan said that FIS won't prepare me enough for medicine. does that apply to the MUFY programme also? is it something like FIS?
This post has been edited by ABMKA: Feb 24 2012, 08:49 AM
The difference between MUFY and FIS as far as I know is this -
FIS is run by only one college under one roof. They cant play around with the syllabus since it's scrutinised by MQA but they can play around with marks in case they need to fill in seats in their programs, say MBBS. It's only valid at the same uni only and if you want to transfer to another uni, it's done on case by case basis.
MUFY is taken at 5 centres around the world - Sri Lanka, Jakarta, Sunway, JB and Melbourne and the examiners are from Monash U. It's on par with VCE syllabus and the marking is done internally and externally, so lecturers cant really help to cook up the marks much. Not a lot of Sunway MUFY students manage to get in MBBS program in Monash this year, at least.. most became casualty of the killer Chemistry paper (even after repeating), so they end up doing biomed instead.
If you're looking to enter Monash or IMU, then MUFY is an ok choice if you have the money. The lectuerers were beyond awesome. But if I were to do pre-u again, I'd go for Ausmat instead due to wider recognition.
The difference between MUFY and FIS as far as I know is this -
FIS is run by only one college under one roof. They cant play around with the syllabus since it's scrutinised by MQA but they can play around with marks in case they need to fill in seats in their programs, say MBBS. It's only valid at the same uni only and if you want to transfer to another uni, it's done on case by case basis.
MUFY is taken at 5 centres around the world - Sri Lanka, Jakarta, Sunway, JB and Melbourne and the examiners are from Monash U. It's on par with VCE syllabus and the marking is done internally and externally, so lecturers cant really help to cook up the marks much. Not a lot of Sunway MUFY students manage to get in MBBS program in Monash this year, at least.. most became casualty of the killer Chemistry paper (even after repeating), so they end up doing biomed instead.
If you're looking to enter Monash or IMU, then MUFY is an ok choice if you have the money. The lectuerers were beyond awesome. But if I were to do pre-u again, I'd go for Ausmat instead due to wider recognition.
ok2, was the Chemistry paper THAT killing? i mean, chemistry is not really my forte among my science subjects in school.. and by taking ausmat, will it be easier/as easy to enter IMU/Monash *provided hopefully, that i achieved/exceeded the min req* ?
The difference between MUFY and FIS as far as I know is this -
FIS is run by only one college under one roof. They cant play around with the syllabus since it's scrutinised by MQA but they can play around with marks in case they need to fill in seats in their programs, say MBBS. It's only valid at the same uni only and if you want to transfer to another uni, it's done on case by case basis.
MUFY is taken at 5 centres around the world - Sri Lanka, Jakarta, Sunway, JB and Melbourne and the examiners are from Monash U. It's on par with VCE syllabus and the marking is done internally and externally, so lecturers cant really help to cook up the marks much. Not a lot of Sunway MUFY students manage to get in MBBS program in Monash this year, at least.. most became casualty of the killer Chemistry paper (even after repeating), so they end up doing biomed instead.
If you're looking to enter Monash or IMU, then MUFY is an ok choice if you have the money. The lectuerers were beyond awesome. But if I were to do pre-u again, I'd go for Ausmat instead due to wider recognition.
A few of the MUFY students who got into mbbs Clayton, had already done A levels. They did a shorter intensive MUFY program in Taylor's Melbourne.
In terms of recognition and standard, the programs to take into account would be AUSMAT, SAM and VCE. The former two can be done locally.
The difference between MUFY and FIS as far as I know is this -
FIS is run by only one college under one roof. They cant play around with the syllabus since it's scrutinised by MQA but they can play around with marks in case they need to fill in seats in their programs, say MBBS. It's only valid at the same uni only and if you want to transfer to another uni, it's done on case by case basis.
MUFY is taken at 5 centres around the world - Sri Lanka, Jakarta, Sunway, JB and Melbourne and the examiners are from Monash U. It's on par with VCE syllabus and the marking is done internally and externally, so lecturers cant really help to cook up the marks much. Not a lot of Sunway MUFY students manage to get in MBBS program in Monash this year, at least.. most became casualty of the killer Chemistry paper (even after repeating), so they end up doing biomed instead.
If you're looking to enter Monash or IMU, then MUFY is an ok choice if you have the money. The lectuerers were beyond awesome. But if I were to do pre-u again, I'd go for Ausmat instead due to wider recognition.
Was there any prior notice of the expected tougher Chemistry paper? Such a critical subject for critical courses and kill the hopes of so many students. From med to biomed, what a drastic change unless aiming for graduate entry. Similar to the early years of the med program in AIMST, 600 to 700 foundation students aiming for 100 odd places. Would be interesting to know what happen to these biomed graduates. Understand that biomed is not a flourishing industry, a "forced" acceptance. Would have been better to have opt for the popular courses after failing to get into med - how many can do such a turnaround but to hang around some medical related course!
are these MUFY students local students or students that are residing in australia?
The ones who have done A levels were Singaporeans. I think about 3 or 4 Malaysians got in via the standard MUFY program. All of them did the program in Taylor's College Melbourne. From this year onwards, however, MUFY is run by Monash College.
Added on February 24, 2012, 1:30 pm
QUOTE(cckkpr @ Feb 24 2012, 11:32 AM)
Was there any prior notice of the expected tougher Chemistry paper? Such a critical subject for critical courses and kill the hopes of so many students. From med to biomed, what a drastic change unless aiming for graduate entry. Similar to the early years of the med program in AIMST, 600 to 700 foundation students aiming for 100 odd places. Would be interesting to know what happen to these biomed graduates. Understand that biomed is not a flourishing industry, a "forced" acceptance. Would have been better to have opt for the popular courses after failing to get into med - how many can do such a turnaround but to hang around some medical related course!
I don't think the chemistry paper became "tougher". Questions would have been based on the syllabus covered.
This post has been edited by podrunner: Feb 24 2012, 01:30 PM
The ones who have done A levels were Singaporeans. I think about 3 or 4 Malaysians got in via the standard MUFY program. All of them did the program in Taylor's College Melbourne. From this year onwards, however, MUFY is run by Monash College.
Added on February 24, 2012, 1:30 pm I don't think the chemistry paper became "tougher". Questions would have been based on the syllabus covered.
Agreed. Most students are taking MUFU far too for granted.