i thought masterskill already got MBBS?
Life Sciences [List] Private Medical Universities in Malaysia, *MD / MBBS / MBBChBAO (Update-17/11/14)*
Life Sciences [List] Private Medical Universities in Malaysia, *MD / MBBS / MBBChBAO (Update-17/11/14)*
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May 28 2010, 05:44 PM
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i thought masterskill already got MBBS?
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Jul 27 2010, 08:46 PM
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QUOTE(ridd @ Jul 27 2010, 07:31 PM) pharmacy profession is awesome and good but the only problem is that there is not enough clinical/medical responsibilities which is what i am seeking for. Medicine allows you to specialise and there are so many different areas/fields within the profession. A lot more clinical responsibilities. I am not good in business and the other areas of pharmacy, which is a let down! there are many areas in pharmacy with clinical responsibilities la.. go do a masters in pharmacology..master of clinical pharmacy..pharmacotheraphy.etc..so many areas too specialise..especially in UK where there would be bound to have even more choices.. do more research boy.. |
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Jul 28 2010, 09:26 AM
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QUOTE(ridd @ Jul 28 2010, 01:20 AM) lol, err... those masters doesnt mean clinical responsibilities. more like names that makes it sound clinical haha. but yes specialisse ure right but still at the end, you're still acting as a pharmacist and there are limits for pharmacies. think i know my field of work, no offense. unless you are a pharmacist or studying pharmacy, only those ppl can tell you what its actually about. soon to be studying...good luck to you then... anyway..i dun quite understand what u mean really mean by 'clinical responsibilities'.. with the over-saturations of doctors in Malaysia in the next few years..your chances of getting hands-on training in the hospital will be very limited as well..yes there will be 'clinical responsibilities'..but i think there would be more clerking involved.. i'm sure limeuu can enlighten you on that matter even more.. This post has been edited by zstan: Jul 28 2010, 09:35 AM |
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Jul 29 2010, 12:43 PM
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QUOTE(cckkpr @ Jul 29 2010, 12:32 PM) I believe that there are not enough similarities between Pharmacy and Medic to allow you exemptions to shorten the duration of the course. A cousin of mine told me in western countries, many of those who did not make it to med skol in the first instant would take an alternative course that will help them gain entry after graduating. Its the PASSION! I was told. to become a clinical psychologist : u need to do degree in psycho + masters in clinical psychologyWhat is another couple of years, frankly, if your passion is strong? After all, it is not wasted. I also read that some psycology graduates locally are also signing up for medic. Can somebody please enlighten the pathway of a clinical psycologist through a "pure" psycology program or medic program? Whats the difference, if any? through a medic programme, u specialise to be a psychiatrist, not a psychologist. in simple words: psychologist cannot prescribe medicine, psychiatrist can. |
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Jul 29 2010, 02:30 PM
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QUOTE(cckkpr @ Jul 29 2010, 02:21 PM) When you are somewhat mentally unstable, you see a psychiatrist but if you are a someone under stress and need emotional support, they will recommend a clinical psychologist who has a medic degree. Mention the word "psychiatrist" and most people give you strange look wondering whether you are "cuckoo" or not. some correction there.a clinical psychologist does not need a medical degree. as i posted earlier, you need to do masters in clinical psychology after your degree. in malaysia however the places are very limited. for private uni, only HELP has it. and it only has like, 12 places? in layman's term, a clinical psychologist is a highly qualified counselor. a psychiatrist, well..is a doctor. This post has been edited by zstan: Jul 29 2010, 02:31 PM |
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Aug 24 2010, 02:03 PM
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QUOTE(DarkNite @ Aug 24 2010, 01:14 PM) Today, I help a very old friend visit his Doctor at the local gomen general hospital. B'cos his sons are in KL working he asked me to help take him there. The doctors there only see patient at about 8am but he told me to fetch him at 6.30am!!!!! yes!If not the queue will be very long, which was true enough cos when we reach there at 7am the parking lots was full and the queue was there already. Dun start me on the waiting time for his medicine. So the citizens get crappy health service NOW! In the end is there any difference? in the future, there will be 5 doctors attending to one outpatient! isn't that amazing?? |
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Aug 25 2010, 12:56 PM
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Aug 25 2010, 01:44 PM
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Aug 25 2010, 03:56 PM
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Aug 26 2010, 09:29 AM
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got 24 uni offering medic..IPTA n IPTS..
let's just say all take 50 students la..only a few haven produce first batch so the small numbers are to cover for that... next year from malaysia alone... 24 * 50 = 1200 grads *5(2016)= 6000 doctors. let's say 500 students go overseas(UK/US/Aus/Indo/russia etc) to study per year, times 6= 3000 doctors. so there we have, at least 9000 doctors produced. and these figures are just the minimum. but are the number of general hospitals increasing? |
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Aug 26 2010, 06:45 PM
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even master's students are not getting enough training themselves... zz
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Sep 6 2010, 09:35 AM
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2015 there will be enough doctors..2020 there will be oversupply of doctors...
good news to sabahans then! |
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Sep 6 2010, 05:39 PM
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QUOTE(cckkpr @ Sep 6 2010, 05:35 PM) There will always be a shortage of doctors no matter what is being said. the exact words should be oversupplying of housemen...Issues of migration, going downsouth, population increase and a revision to doctor:population ratio. Tell me which profession is in oversupply now. Only unemployable graduates are in oversupply. unless there is an increase in GH..these people won have anymore places left to train... |
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Sep 6 2010, 07:24 PM
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because the facilities there are quite bad if u had read some articles...
dun even have proper lighting or water in some areas.. =/ |
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Sep 6 2010, 09:33 PM
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QUOTE(onelove89 @ Sep 6 2010, 08:47 PM) When you think of it, why do we have crappy facilities? Why are there places with no electricity / water? why, are our roads 10x more bumpier than those in w.msia? funding issue? fund distribution? I'm not here to brag about some inequalities that we face, but yes. there are some remote places with poor lighting and water supply. politics bro..well, seriously, what's so bad to be sent to rural areas of sabah/swak? I mean, initially you bragged about your passion on saving lives. and now they become so stereotypical about where they are working. Do you get paid less? heck no, you'll get paid more in those places. Do you get lesser training? I doubt so. In rural aus, where one is in charge of the whole hospital, you'll be doing almost everything, by yourself. But correct me if I'm wrong. I'm just tying in the rural practice here and back in Malaysia. But similar situation in OZ like limeuu said. Everyone's reluctant to go to rural areas. politics... 20 overs for the same man to be CM is really toooo long.... the money is there.............but......... |
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Sep 7 2010, 09:18 AM
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true..
the money IS there...come on la..sarawak and sabah has soooo much natural resources..poor? i don't think so. |
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Sep 7 2010, 09:53 AM
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QUOTE(onelove89 @ Sep 7 2010, 09:46 AM) can I know where do you live? as in which area/city u can do by exercising your rights to vote. the resources are harvested. and the money is there, held by government. We have the resources. We harvest the resources. we don't HOLD the money that we got from the resources. In the end, what can we do? btw, has segi started their MBBS course yet? nope starting in october. |
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Sep 12 2010, 04:07 PM
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oh mai. what has the medical field in malaysia has become.
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Sep 12 2010, 04:57 PM
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QUOTE(DarkNite @ Sep 12 2010, 04:45 PM) Is this not good for the Rakyat? as long as pharmacist doesn't gets full dispensing rights..that would never happen..In future, like any other business only the strongest survive. These days I see soooooo many pharmacist. Hopefully we will get to see a 24/7 RX outlet. |
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Oct 18 2010, 09:36 AM
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QUOTE(BrachialPlexus @ Oct 17 2010, 10:01 PM) You know the healthcare system is screwed up when.... quoted for truth. 1. The entry requirement for certain medical schools is CCC in A-levels,TER80 in SAM/AusMat and equivalent. 2. The majority of these schools have no additional screening processes, ie; interviews, standardized tests, etc. 3. When medical schools blatantly advertise in newspapers to attract students, with some offering 'guaranted places' and 'iPhones' as incentives. 4. When most of these schools are understaffed and have little resources. 5. When most of the students in the newer schools are of poor quality. (a generalization, yes... but you can't deny the truth in this statement) 6. When money is essentially the most important entry criteria into these schools. 7. When 90% of the good doctors-to-be want to opt out of the Malaysian health system. Joy oh joy. |
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