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limeuu
post Jul 9 2011, 10:18 PM

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QUOTE(clevedon @ Jul 9 2011, 09:59 PM)
I thought once you are accepted during the interview by St George, and provided you don't fail any exams, you are guaranteed a place to St George.

What is bothering me now is nobody seems to be going to St George from Taylor's, I am a bit concern about the standard of teaching in Taylor's.
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i don't know how taylor's is doing it, but if based on the same system as imu, no, you are NOT tied to any pms at entry......you are however guaranteed a place if you pass all exams, but the final matching will decide where you eventually go.....

taylors may do it differently, as the only pms worth going to is st. georges, but since st. georges insist on a clear restriction that only people with 3a's at a-levels (or equivalent) can match to them, that automatically disqualify many students (in imu, that would effectively disqualify more than 1/2)..........

what is worrying is, if you browse their website, much of the information about the twinning programmes have been removed, as is the indonesian partner.....there is mention of the czech partner with no details.....it's 4 years after taylors, so i don't think anyone is ever going to want to go there....st. georges wants aaab, not sure why they want 4 subjects, but they only want aussie atar90......no mention about stpm........

i would go sit down with them and get the REAL facts before deciding.........it looks like their pms programme is failing apart......they have only ONE pms people may be interested in....
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post Jul 9 2011, 10:24 PM

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QUOTE(limeuu @ Jul 9 2011, 10:18 PM)
i don't know how taylor's is doing it, but if based on the same system as imu, no, you are NOT tied to any pms at entry......you are however guaranteed a place if you pass all exams, but the final matching will decide where you eventually go.....

taylors may do it differently, as the only pms worth going to is st. georges, but since st. georges insist on a clear restriction that only people with 3a's at a-levels (or equivalent) can match to them, that automatically disqualify many students (in imu, that would effectively disqualify more than 1/2)..........

what is worrying is, if you browse their website, much of the information about the twinning programmes have been removed, as is the indonesian partner.....there is mention of the czech partner with no details.....it's 4 years after taylors, so i don't think anyone is ever going to want to go there....st. georges wants aaab, not sure why they want 4 subjects, but they only want aussie atar90......no mention about stpm........

i would go sit down with them and get the REAL facts before deciding.........it looks like their pms programme is failing apart......they have only ONE pms people may be interested in....
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I went there recently and talked to the counselor, seems nobody has gone to St Georges yet. Applying via Taylor's to St George's needs 3A1B whereas via IMU is only BBB.


Added on July 9, 2011, 10:28 pmThe counselor told me that if I am accepted during interview by St George's, I will get a place to transfer to London provided I pass all exams during the two years.


I hope I am not misled!

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post Jul 9 2011, 10:31 PM

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QUOTE(clevedon @ Jul 9 2011, 10:24 PM)
I went there recently and talked to the counselor, seems nobody has gone to St Georges yet.  Applying via Taylor's to St George's needs 3A1B whereas via IMU is only BBB.
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that is not correct.......

while bbb is the stated minimum qualification for entry, most intakes have cut off's at aab/atar94 or thereabouts......and they really decide based on the phase 1 performance, not pre-u.....

nobody has gone from taylors, i think because they have only taken the first batch 2 years ago, so the first group may be joining year 3 in st. georges in september..........but surely these info should have been made known by the 'counsellors' (aka saleperson) there?...........


Added on July 9, 2011, 10:32 pmi should add, even their local programme is fraught with a lack of information.....where on earth is their clinical training hospitals?..........and their academic staffs......the list on the website is pathetic.....


Added on July 9, 2011, 10:37 pm
QUOTE(clevedon @ Jul 9 2011, 10:24 PM)
The counselor told me that if I am accepted during interview by St George's, I will get a place to transfer to London provided I pass all exams during the two years.
I hope I am not misled!
ah.....so.....

looks like there is only 1 pms left, and that is st. georges.....and they are having a say who gets into this backdoor into their programme right from the start..........

seriously, i would go for direct entry if this is this the case.....the fees for the 1st 2 years in london is not much more than the taylors phase 1 fees.......

the only reason to use this pathway is if one cannot get direct entry (ukcat/personal statement/interview gets in the way for many)..........


Added on July 9, 2011, 10:40 pmfinally, it is a no brainer why the indon partner is dropped........who on earth will want to partner to indonesia through taylors, when one can get direct in cheaper, easier and with much lower pre-u qualifications........

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post Jul 9 2011, 10:42 PM

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QUOTE(limeuu @ Jul 9 2011, 10:31 PM)
that is not correct.......

while bbb is the stated minimum qualification for entry, most intakes have cut off's at aab/atar94 or thereabouts......and they really decide based on the phase 1 performance, not pre-u.....


Sorry, my bad!




nobody has gone from taylors, i think because they have only taken the first batch 2 years ago, so the first group may be joining year 3 in st. georges in september..........but surely these info should have been made known by the 'counsellors' (aka saleperson) there?...........


When I was there, the first counselor told me there were few heading to St Georges, then later another counselor told me that nobody in the previous batches of MBBS students are heading there, nobody has chosen to go there. I am actually a bit worried. But Taylor's has been around for a long time, its reputation has been good. I hope I am right.



Added on July 9, 2011, 10:32 pmi should add, even their local programme is fraught with a lack of information.....where on earth is their clinical training hospitals?..........and their academic staffs......the list on the website is pathetic.....
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Its clinicall hospital is Sungai Buluh Hospital. Their academic staff are mainly from India.


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QUOTE(clevedon @ Jul 10 2011, 03:42 AM)

Its clinicall hospital is Sungai Buluh Hospital. Their academic staff are mainly from India.

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U should apply for IMU. And then apply St Georges first choice and many other UK universities. Your sister might not stay in that particular place in London for 3 years. And she can still give you pocket money anyhow if you are twinned to somewhere else in the UK. The best thing is you can get the best of both worlds - ur campus + free accommodation in london.

IMU is much more established, god knows what will happen to Taylor's PMS.
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QUOTE(clevedon @ Jul 9 2011, 10:42 PM)
Its clinicall hospital is Sungai Buluh Hospital. Their academic staff are mainly from India.
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with their current intake, that should be adequate.....


Added on July 9, 2011, 11:03 pm
QUOTE(clevedon @ Jul 9 2011, 10:42 PM)
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When I was there, the first counselor told me there were few heading to St Georges, then later another counselor told me that nobody in the previous batches of MBBS students are heading there, nobody has chosen to go there. I am actually a bit worried. But Taylor's has been around for a long time, its reputation has been good. I hope I am right.

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taylors is good for many courses, but they are doing their medical programme very badly....they tried to copy imu, but could not get reputable med schools to partner with except st. georges, and i suspect that partnership will eventually also disappear, and they are left with their local programme, which has no advantage over the many mushrooming upstarts.........

if you do a search for my comments in this thread, i have said long ago when taylors first announced their pms medical programme, that it is doomed to failure..........

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post Jul 9 2011, 11:08 PM

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Now I am really worry! I will check again!
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post Jul 10 2011, 12:34 AM

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With those results, try applying straight? If not, I do second the idea to take IMU PMS program. Taylors medicine program just got up and running recently, so we know nothing much about it atm.
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post Jul 10 2011, 01:11 AM

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yeah why not apply straight to st george?
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QUOTE(zstan @ Jul 10 2011, 01:11 AM)
yeah why not apply straight to st george?
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May be I will do that, apply first, if I get it then I might defer for one year. Due to some personal reasons, I can't go to UK for at least the next 1 year.

But I am also concern whether I can get in if I apply direct as UK medicine is not easy to get in direct, UKCAT, PS, interview . As mentioned earlier, someone I know did not get any single offer from UK for medicine despite getting A*A*AA.

I will possibly try IMU if I need be.
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How different is MB BCH BAO from MBBS?
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QUOTE(dentalfloss @ Jul 12 2011, 12:11 AM)
How different is MB BCH BAO from MBBS?
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same.....
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post Jul 25 2011, 11:34 PM

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QUOTE(dentalfloss @ Jul 12 2011, 12:11 AM)
How different is MB BCH BAO from MBBS?
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The difference of those two degree is just the name. Both recognition is exactly the same.. You couldn't expect that all the academic qualification in the world from pre-globalisation to be the same, since, well, it was before globalisation..
However, though it would seemed that having a medical degree with a longer name is cool or professional, it is far from the truth. One glance and anyone in the medical field would differentiate you of your area of study. MD from American region, MB BChir BaO is from Irish region, MBBS is from British and Commonwealth area.
By the way, you should've just use Wikipedia for this information. It's far more detailed. sleep.gif
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if malaysia then we have rojak. lol but mostly MD. so malaysia as commonwealth country still produces more MD than MBBS holders.
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Hi guys, I'm new here and I have few doubts to ask you fellas smile.gif

I intend to take up AUCMS' MD UKM programme. If I'm not mistaken, this is the 3rd intake. However, the marketing personnel told me that it already has MMC recognition?? I thought MMC's recognition is only possible after the 5th year (pioneer batch)'s graduation. A quick reference with MMC's Jadual Kedua states that only ACMS's MD USU is recognized. I even called MMC personally, and was told that only ACMS' MD UKM is recognized.

Confused! So which one is true?? MMC's recognition is for the University or specifically for the degree ONLY. Clarification, please.

Secondly, regarding a bigger fish, USMLE.
I have gathered some info on USMLE which enables one to serve in US a International Medical Graduate. Only grads from IMED listed schools can apply for USMLE. AUCMS is not listed under IMED as expected. So it's MD grads can't take USMLE, right?

Is there any chance for AUCMS to be listed under IMED??

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QUOTE(md.azlan23 @ Jul 27 2011, 06:43 PM)
Hi guys, I'm new here and I have few doubts to ask you fellas smile.gif

I intend to take up AUCMS' MD UKM programme. If I'm not mistaken, this is the 3rd intake. However, the marketing personnel told me that it already has MMC recognition?? I thought MMC's recognition is only possible after the 5th year (pioneer batch)'s graduation. A quick reference with MMC's Jadual Kedua states that only ACMS's MD USU is recognized. I even called MMC personally, and was told that only ACMS' MD UKM is recognized.

Confused! So which one is true?? MMC's recognition is for the University or specifically for the degree ONLY. Clarification, please.

Secondly, regarding a bigger fish, USMLE.
I have gathered some info on USMLE which enables one to serve in US a International Medical Graduate. Only grads from IMED listed schools can apply for USMLE. AUCMS is not listed under IMED as expected. So it's MD grads can't take USMLE, right?

Is there any chance for AUCMS to be listed under IMED??
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Plz dont. AUCMS is a lie basically. my brother used to study there under the MD USU programme before changing to MSU.
Dont bother. The management is a mess. They lie to you, yes LIE. They told the parents and students that MD USU programme is an international class, everything conducted in english and recognized world wide, but everything was a lie, nothing was conducted in english as told.

MD UKM programme is a joke, almost 15 ppl fail each batch for their final exams, class conducted via video conference, Lecturers are from phillipines and pakistan. Facilities is a joke, lab equipments borrowed from a school in front of their sri serdang(kepala batas) campus. Malu wey!!! Theyre too busy funding 6 scam artist (from AC Konsortium) to do programmes for their students, (ie AUCMS idol, program cantik dan sihat bersama rosma dan salima AF) etc etc.

Seriously, AUCMS is a JOKE to all medical institution out there. Dont bother. Dato Dr Zainuddin Wazir can eat shit
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Plz dont. AUCMS is a lie basically. my brother used to study there under the MD USU programme before changing to MSU.
Dont bother. The management is a mess. They lie to you, yes LIE. They told the parents and students that MD USU programme is an international class, everything conducted in english and recognized world wide, but everything was a lie, nothing was conducted in english as told.

MD UKM programme is a joke, almost 15 ppl fail each batch for their final exams, class conducted via video conference, Lecturers are from phillipines and pakistan. Facilities is a joke, lab equipments borrowed from a school in front of their sri serdang(kepala batas) campus. Malu wey!!! Theyre too busy funding 6 scam artist (from AC Konsortium) to do programmes for their students, (ie AUCMS idol, program cantik dan sihat bersama rosma dan salima AF) etc etc.

Seriously, AUCMS is a JOKE to all medical institution out there. Dont bother. Dato Dr Zainuddin Wazir can eat shit
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If I'm not mistaken a lot of CUCMS students whom got kicked out due to the student limit fiasco ended up in AUCMS.

Basically, out of one blood sucking place to another eh?

http://aididmuaddib.blogspot.com/2011/06/a...universiti.html

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Jom sihat & cantik!! Teeheehee
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QUOTE(Syd G @ Jul 27 2011, 08:55 PM)
If I'm not mistaken a lot of CUCMS students whom got kicked out due to the student limit fiasco ended up in AUCMS.

Basically, out of one blood sucking place to another eh?

http://aididmuaddib.blogspot.com/2011/06/a...universiti.html

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AUCMS is purely bloodsucking ler.. even the USU clinical students , in kangar, 16 ppl per group..surrounding patients mcm apa je. Blaja pon susah. Too much politic by dato Z. ACMS wujud pon sb die close to Pak Lah, and ACMS dibangunkan di kepala batas (pak lah's ) kampung to help develop the place. Its a 2 Ringgit company when it started off. The premdical batch (pioneer) in 06 started the class with 0 facilities. Bangunan pon xde lagi so they had to sewa from the district public dewan for lectures. How can MAra send their students to a place like this in the first place if it werent for politics. 80+ students for 1st batch of which 70 are mara students. Without MARA, acms xbleh hidup
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QUOTE(FrostLance @ Jul 27 2011, 08:13 PM)
Plz dont. AUCMS is a lie basically. my brother used to study there under the MD USU programme before changing to MSU.
Dont bother. The management is a mess. They lie to you, yes LIE. They told the parents and students that MD USU programme is an international class, everything conducted in english and recognized world wide, but everything was a lie, nothing was conducted in english as told.

MD UKM programme is a joke, almost 15 ppl fail each batch for their final exams, class conducted via video conference, Lecturers are from phillipines and pakistan. Facilities is a joke, lab equipments borrowed from a school in front of their sri serdang(kepala batas) campus. Malu wey!!! Theyre too busy funding 6 scam artist (from AC Konsortium) to do programmes for their students, (ie AUCMS idol, program cantik dan sihat bersama rosma dan salima AF) etc etc.

Seriously, AUCMS is a JOKE to all medical institution out there. Dont bother. Dato Dr Zainuddin Wazir can eat shit
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Wow! My first ever post on this forum and it has been met with such a negativity tongue.gif I never thought AUCMS' facilities would be subjected to much hammering. It was all glossy as it's in their Facebook page. Yup, I heard about that video conference thingy too and sometimes classes get cancelled altogether due to technical issues! However, their course fee is quite appealing, at RM308K for MD UKM. Not like some others that cost RM800K !! Recently they manage to ink a deal with local banks to provide study loans for medical students. And all the exams are exactly the same with UKM's, as I've been told by their marketing personnel. Lastly, I did saw a number of CUCMS students at the interview.

Hmmm.....I'm seriously getting old but I'm not going to burn RM308K for below par education if it's true as what you guys said.
Any other opinions on AUCMS?

Also, about USMLE. Is it advisable to take USMLE (Part 1) as a 3rd year student?

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