pharmacy profession is awesome and good but the only problem is that there is not enough clinical/medical responsibilities which is what i am seeking for. Medicine allows you to specialise and there are so many different areas/fields within the profession. A lot more clinical responsibilities. I am not good in business and the other areas of pharmacy, which is a let down!

there are many areas in pharmacy with clinical responsibilities la.. go do a masters in pharmacology..master of clinical pharmacy..pharmacotheraphy.etc..so many areas too specialise..especially in UK where there would be bound to have even more choices..

do more research boy..

lol, err... those masters doesnt mean clinical responsibilities. more like names that makes it sound clinical haha. but yes specialisse ure right but still at the end, you're still acting as a pharmacist and there are limits for pharmacies. think i know my field of work, no offense. unless you are a pharmacist or studying pharmacy, only those ppl can tell you what its actually about.

there is no graduate-entry med school in msia......however matured students can apply to enter any of the programmes just like school leavers, but there will be no shortening of the course.....

changing from pharmacy to medicine has happened before....but would suggest poor career counseling in the past......or a failure to secure a place in medicine before.....

soon to be studying...good luck to you then...

anyway..i dun quite understand what u mean really mean by 'clinical responsibilities'..

with the over-saturations of doctors in Malaysia in the next few years..your chances of getting hands-on training in the hospital will be very limited as well..yes there will be 'clinical responsibilities'..but i think there would be more clerking involved..

i'm sure limeuu can enlighten you on that matter even more..

This post has been edited by zstan: Jul 28 2010, 09:35 AM

try to apply for postgrad med in other countries rather than msia? =) Since you're in UK, you can try to get into the graduate entry medicine. have u been working as a retail pharm or clinical pharm for the past few years?

You could try Poland. Three MMC recognized universities there have 4-years graduate entry program. One of them is Medical University of Warsaw. Here is the MMC's list:

http://mmc.gov.my/v1/index.php?option=com_...d=70&Itemid=109

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Added on July 29, 2010, 2:08 amOther than that... here is some past-time hobby of mine, I call it "suturing the torn bag" - duh...



If the sutures do not slip for at least 3 days of carrying heavy books in that bag, I consider my interrupted suturing skills acceptable~

This post has been edited by CyberSetan: Jul 29 2010, 03:18 AM

I believe that there are not enough similarities between Pharmacy and Medic to allow you exemptions to shorten the duration of the course. A cousin of mine told me in western countries, many of those who did not make it to med skol in the first instant would take an alternative course that will help them gain entry after graduating. Its the PASSION! I was told.

What is another couple of years, frankly, if your passion is strong? After all, it is not wasted. I also read that some psycology graduates locally are also signing up for medic.

Can somebody please enlighten the pathway of a clinical psycologist through a "pure" psycology program or medic program? Whats the difference, if any?

to become a clinical psychologist : u need to do degree in psycho + masters in clinical psychology

through a medic programme, u specialise to be a psychiatrist, not a psychologist.

in simple words:

psychologist cannot prescribe medicine, psychiatrist can.

When you are somewhat mentally unstable, you see a psychiatrist but if you are a someone under stress and need emotional support, they will recommend a clinical psychologist who has a medic degree. Mention the word "psychiatrist" and most people give you strange look wondering whether you are "cuckoo" or not.

some correction there.

a clinical psychologist does not need a medical degree. as i posted earlier, you need to do masters in clinical psychology after your degree. in malaysia however the places are very limited. for private uni, only HELP has it. and it only has like, 12 places?

in layman's term, a clinical psychologist is a highly qualified counselor. a psychiatrist, well..is a doctor.

This post has been edited by zstan: Jul 29 2010, 02:31 PM

no doctors wanna take up medicine just to be a counsellor, clinical psychologists are psychology graduates who took up master in clinical psychology.

psychiatrists medicate, and they are trained in consulting the mentally-ill people.

*Update in first page - 22/8/2010

- Masterskill and SEGI college MBBS added - Fees are yet to be known.
- Total IPTS offering Medicine in Malaysia is now 16.
- Any correction or dead link please inform me~

masterskill is a twinned programme.........clinical years in india, they didn't say where in their advert........

Ah.. yes, they are twinning with Krishna Institute of Medical Sciences.


http://biz.thestar.com.my/news/story.asp?f...89&sec=business

First 2.5 years in Malaysia then the rest in India.

This post has been edited by CyberSetan: Aug 23 2010, 09:26 AM

Is this Krishna Medical School a reputable medic college or something similar to Manipal where it is not recognised in India!

it doesn't matter, as the students will get a masterskill degree..........which obviously will not be recognised in india...........

even if it is, few if any graduates will want to stay back in india and work, in contrast to students in oecd countries......

Its a reverse of Melaka Manipal Medical College. Instead of first spending 2.5 years in India for the pre and para clinical subjects and the rest of the clinical phase in Malaysia, its the other way around for Masterskill's program.

It is most likely that it will not be recognized by the MCI (Medical Council of India) same as MMMC and MSU.
Unless the Malaysian students are doing Medicine full time (4.5years + 1 year compulsory internship) along with the local Indians in that college, recognition by MCI is beyond reach.

oh yay more medical schools popping up in msia! Honestly, I don't even know how malaysia will be able to provide everyone with an intern spot in say 5-6 years time. In the end, med grads get jobless, and citizens get crappy health service. x.x

Today, I help a very old friend visit his Doctor at the local gomen general hospital. B'cos his sons are in KL working he asked me to help take him there. The doctors there only see patient at about 8am but he told me to fetch him at 6.30am!!!!!
If not the queue will be very long, which was true enough cos when we reach there at 7am the parking lots was full and the queue was there already. Dun start me on the waiting time for his medicine.
So the citizens get crappy health service NOW! In the end is there any difference?