some depts have up to 40 ho's at a time......more than there are patients!........

even with maldistribution, the number of doctors in said pahang and borneo states are a lot more than in the past, but each successive batch of ho's seems to cope less and less with lighter and lighter workload........

hey guys,i have a question,

if i did twining programme through IMU,let say with UK uni,the degree that i received is from which uni?UK one or IMU?

UK degree

If you did IMU's PMS then your degree would be coming from the University you transferred to not IMU ^^

both

the other 2 answers are correct........if you don't tell people, nobody will know you came through imu...........

lol ...
limeuu,if i take MBBS in New Castle Msia,i'll be doing my pre-clinical years in UK but clinical years in Msia

do you think it is worth it?

and with NewCastle degree,i could do my postgraduate at UK more easier right?

i'm not limeuu but it's definitely not worth it. I dont think you can work in the UK for F1, so you will not be registered under GMC.

Even UK's IMGs are finding it hard to continue postgraduate work there, ur chances are pretty slim. And SMC does not recognise NUMED either because you've done your clinical years outside the main campus.

noted

mm, thought you'll get 2 certs, both UK and IMU? =D that's what i meant. =P but yes, hide the other one and tadaa~ you're fully from UK med school. haha.

It may sound very good that u graduated from an UK medical school, but it reality you are treated as a Malaysian graduate in most circumstances.

Just out of curiosity , the medicine course in our country only permits us to practice in Malaysia right ?

Does that means that Malaysian doctors is surely stuck working for Malaysia only ?
or how could they work in other countries ? for instance Singapore ?

Depends on which University your talking about.Different Universities have different recognition by different medical boards you have to check with each specific medical board to be sure.For example you can work in Singapore with an MBBS from UM and an MD from UKM if I'm not mistaken.Those are the only Malaysian Universities that have recognition from Singapore's medical board if I'm not wrong.

They'll get a diploma-ish cert aka transcript from IMU once they have complete phase I. Once they are transfered to PMS, IMU has nothing to do with them anymore unless they wanna be transfered back to IMU clinical school (ie fail).

During graduation they'll be conferred degree from PMS, nothing from IMU. Unless some people demand first and second year transcripts, there'll be no clue that they're from IMU lol. Most healthboards/hospitals require only the graduation cert and 18 months of transcript from date of application so the IMU transcript can be "hidden".

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Added on May 24, 2010, 6:33 pmI am one of the med student who knows nothing when i entered med school so i feel compelled to say something here lol. To answer your Q yes all private medical universities in Malaysia only allow students to practise in Malaysia as recognised by MMC.

SMC only recognises medical course from UM and UKM and they must be done in the main campus. SMC only recognised medical degrees conferred by universities when the Clinical-Year is done at the main campus. However, SMC also takes up medical graduates from unrecognised med school in malaysia on a case by case basis and it had been happening for decades.

GMC only recognises UK medical schools for undergraduates, or you can take PLAB but PLAB has lost its purpose since the new rule came out in 2006.

AMC/NZMC only recognises AUS/NZ medical schools, or you can take AMC examination (for Aus) or NZREX (for NZ). Looking at the medical student tsunami in AUS, AMC examination has also lost its purpose lol. And lastly when the tsunami hits NZ, NZREX would be deemed irrelevant too (but it is unlikely in 3 years to come).

I'm not so certain about Ireland Medical Council.

And lastly, US seemed to be the most generous country - as long as you passed your USMLE (I dont know how many steps you needa get through, but as long as you get through them you'll be offered some jobs and residency, and US residency has the shortest training duration and it IS the best, they have the most novel treatments and interventions).

This post has been edited by cygoh9: May 24 2010, 06:35 PM

i feel i have done my duty.........people who knows the facts have reached critical mass........

Hi cybersetan,
i've post a message on ur utube channel. but u ask me to send it here. so here it is;

i am interested in pursuing study in Medics for 2nd dgree. i've done my biomed degree but still dont know where to start and everything. i registered to Warsaw application site, but still not completed the written application procedures. i also dont know how and when to proceed with application for sponsorship or loans.

if you can help be a bit, it'd be great. really.

all the thanks in the world, to you )

Very well~

Graduate-entry medical program is on the rise abroad, even in Australia and UK. Unfortunately it is yet to happen in Malaysia. Grad-entry Medicine has its pro and cons, you can search for it in google (there is a lot of it).

Malaysian private medical universities however DO accept BSc. graduates into their program, however they will join the normal 5-years program along with STPM/A-Level/Foundation certificate holders. The 4-years program is only available abroad is designed especially for Bachelors degree holder.

The graduate-entry medical program abroad will usually be more expensive than doing the normal 5-years program in Malaysia. This you have to consider well. If you don't mind sacrificing 1-year for a more cost-saving medical program in Malaysia, then there are many options for you to choose from.

Moving on to your questions.

Based on my personal experience, I find that what I have studied during my BSc.Biomedicine (Hons) helpful in my MBBS studies.
You mentioned that you have graduated with BSc.Biomedicine as well? may i know from where and your CGPA if you don't mind?

em, i dont know how to quote. this is my 1st time using forum ;p

i am still waiting for my final results. but current cgpa is 3.2.. owh, i've read before that they prefer 3.5. is it true? that would be bad.

and this is the reason why i couldn't apply for usm or imu. they want 3.5.. i thought that maybe i could take stpm as backup. what do u think?

There is no need to use STPM since you've got an even higher qualification than that.

If you are willing to pursue the normal 5-years medical program in Malaysia, then a CGPA of 3.0 is the minimum requirement for entry using BSc. qualification.

The following are some IPTS that offers medical program to BSc. graduates:

http://www.perakmed.edu.my/e107_docs/pdf/latest/mbbs.pdf
http://www.cybermed.edu.my/cucms-web/AA_EntryMMBS.jsp
http://219.93.198.210/v2/index.php?option=...=123&Itemid=242

It would be great if somebody cares to state whether courses offered by these unis are recognised nationally/globally