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post Apr 7 2009, 08:32 PM

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QUOTE(kiox @ Apr 7 2009, 07:07 PM)
many thanks aurora for your reply.

actually, i already done that. they asked me that question...
then i start talking blah, blah, blah...told them everything...about my company...

i also done some research on the new company n also my friend is staff there.
and i told everything good about them than my current cmpny

but, the same evening, i got the-unsuccessful-email from the cmpny hr... cry.gif

i heard once that its not a good thing to tell the interviewer bad thing about your current cmpny...
i broke that rule bcoz i thought i juz want to be honest...

so, is it i must create a lie or stay honest? or it is just not my rezeki...?
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so, is it i must create a lie or stay honest? or it is just not my rezeki...?

Hmm,

think of it like this...

your a doctor in a hospital and this patient A of yours got cancer and will die in 1 month time left...

Scenario 1
A is someone who cannot accept reality, very afraid of dying and so on...

Do you tell him the truth?

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Telling the truth or lie for that matter are assets that can be manipulated in your favour, the only caveat probably would be to use your own discretion.

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As always i would encourage strongly that you always tell the truth.

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post Apr 8 2009, 12:50 AM

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Hi aurora, I have an urgent question. I tendered on 1st April and stated my last day to be May 31st as i need to serve 2 mths notice. But I have now decided to leave earlier. Is it prudent to write them a letter now stating that I will only be serving the remainder of my 1st mth notice and compensating one mth's salary in lieu of the 2nd month's notice period? Will my last day effectively be 30th April?
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QUOTE(HotGimmick @ Apr 8 2009, 12:50 AM)
Hi aurora, I have an urgent question. I tendered on 1st April and stated my last day to be May 31st as i need to serve 2 mths notice. But I have now decided to leave earlier. Is it prudent to write them a letter now stating that I will only be serving the remainder of my 1st mth notice and compensating one mth's salary in lieu of the 2nd month's notice period? Will my last day effectively be 30th April?
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My 2 cents...

Well anything that is different from the negotiated contract probably you will need to seek management approval, some may be willing to let you go because there isn't any urgent matter at hand or because there are ample people queuing around the corner for your job. If otherwise, its unlike that the company will let you go without serving out the full notice unless exemption granted by management.

so i would say in ur case is management's call whether they allow u to depart early or otherwise.
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post Apr 11 2009, 09:26 AM

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Harlo Aurara, i have a situation here. I have been joining a chinaman company for 1 month. And i found out that, i am doing something different from i have been told during interview. I had tried to told to my superior and her answer is that currently they have shortage (man power) in certain dept, they wan me to fill in the post 1st until they hire some1. Since my background is engineering but i doing programing stuff in my company, i feel very tense most of the time.

So i plan to submit my resignation letter. since i still under 3 month probation.

Under Term of probation , the company have the right to give me 24 hrs notice due to poor performance, misconduct and so on. Does this mean that, i have the right to to tender my resignation, is it mean it take 24 hrs to work out?

And also,under Term of Resignation after my probation period , the offer letter also state that if i resign, i need to tender 3 month notice.

So, i am quiet blur on this ?

Any advice on this matter ?

thanks in advance.


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post Apr 11 2009, 10:17 AM

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the Company has the right to giv u 24 hrs notice, but not you.

and the 3 month notice is upon confirmation.


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post Apr 11 2009, 11:20 AM

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QUOTE(yiivei @ Apr 11 2009, 10:17 AM)
the Company has the right to giv u 24 hrs notice, but not you.

and the 3 month notice is upon confirmation.
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So, if i give notice during probation, how long it will Active? 1 month?
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post Apr 12 2009, 01:03 AM

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Hi everybody.. icon_question.gif

Im facing a hard time right now. Really need opinions from u guys..

My current situation is like tis, I juz got offered a government post. N as norm, my company needs me to giv 1 month notice b4 i can officially leave. so i gave the notice on 1/4/2009 tat wil become effective on 1st on May. but the problem is, i hv to report duty to my new job on the 24th of April. So i decided to take ealier leave, tat wil be on tis coming 18th, and, my blood-sucking manager-cum-boss-son ask me to compensate the company as i hv to leave before the effective date. So i asked him how much do i hv to pay back to the company, n he said tat my salary (which is MONTHLY-BASIS) wil be deducted into 26 days per month, n he said tat its normal. No pay on Sundays i assume...

i tried checking online on the Malaysian Labour Law, but couldnt get a firm answer by myself. is it really legal for employer not to pay salary for Sunday (as per rest-day, although in my contract they stated tat sunday shall be treated as rest day) to a monthly basis wages? (26 days instead of 30 days)

n i stil hv 2 days of annual leave(tat is up to April tis year). can i use it to deduct the amount of compensation tat i hv to pay to the company...

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QUOTE(lactose_operon @ Apr 12 2009, 01:03 AM)
Hi everybody..  icon_question.gif

Im facing a hard time right now. Really need opinions from u guys..

My current situation is like tis, I juz got offered a government post. N as norm, my company needs me to giv 1 month notice b4 i can officially leave. so i gave the notice on 1/4/2009 tat wil become effective on 1st on May. but the problem is, i hv to report duty to my new job on the 24th of April. So i decided to take ealier leave, tat wil be on tis coming 18th, and, my blood-sucking manager-cum-boss-son ask me to compensate the company as i hv to leave before the effective date. So i asked him how much do i hv to pay back to the company, n he said tat my salary (which is MONTHLY-BASIS) wil be deducted into 26 days per month, n he said tat its normal. No pay on Sundays i assume...

i tried checking online on the Malaysian Labour Law, but couldnt get a firm answer by myself. is it really legal for employer not to pay salary for Sunday (as per rest-day, although in my contract they stated tat sunday shall be treated as rest day) to a monthly basis wages? (26 days instead of 30 days)
n i stil hv 2 days of annual leave(tat is up to April tis year). can i use it to deduct the amount of compensation tat i hv to pay to the company...

TIA  smile.gif
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ur manager is right on the bolded text. yes, u can use ur annual leave to deduct against the compensation amount if ur co. allows u to do so..

is ther room for negotiation with ur boss?
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hi all,

would like to ask something...
my current contract has just expired, and the HR staff has passed me a letter to extend my contract for another 1 year, but I'm planning not to extend it...
however, the company is really having manpower shortage at the moment, so perhaps i'll stay for another 1-2 months...

my question:
-do i still need to fulfill my 3 months notice period as stated in the contract?
-if i decided not to extend my contract, should i handed in my resignation letter now?or i need to negotiate that with the HOD/HR?

that's all for now...
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post Apr 20 2009, 11:48 AM

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if i wana resign from my current company with 24hour notice, should i give the letter in the morning @ after work? any1 reply asap plz icon_question.gif
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QUOTE(iezamieza @ Apr 20 2009, 11:48 AM)
if i wana resign from my current company with 24hour notice, should i give the letter in the morning @ after work? any1 reply asap plz icon_question.gif
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If you ask me, I'll tell you no need.
But than, it's best to prepare ample time for the boss to do some shifting of responsibility.

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QUOTE(b00n @ Apr 20 2009, 12:39 PM)
If you ask me, I'll tell you no need.
But than, it's best to prepare ample time for the boss to do some shifting of responsibility.
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wut do u mean? coz in my current job, im doing nothing in da ofis, its like 'mkn gaji buta' u know, nothing much to b done. so plz gve me da exact answer. should i gv the letter in da morning @ after work?
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Added on April 20, 2009, 3:35 pm
QUOTE(b00n @ Apr 20 2009, 12:39 PM)
If you ask me, I'll tell you no need.
But than, it's best to prepare ample time for the boss to do some shifting of responsibility.
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wut do u mean? coz in my current job, im doing nothing in da ofis, its like 'mkn gaji buta' u know, nothing much to b done. so plz gve me da exact answer. should i gv the letter in da morning @ after work?
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post May 7 2009, 02:27 AM

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hi aurora 97, i am face some problem such as i am resign almost one weeks but i am still not get my salary because my boss intentional to delay my salary with no reason.
Actually all the story is like this, i am resign at 20th of april 2009 and give a SMS notice(probation period) and my position is product executive. My offer letter is didn't mention need to give 24 hour notice so thats why i am just give a SMS notice to my boss because that day i think is over angry and my boss is not in office so i am just SMS notice. In between the few days, me and my boss is discuss what's the reason for my leaving. I am just telling him i am over work for him because my job also need to responsible marketing,warranty issue,some admin jobs such like record the warranty item to warranty book,update the pricelist for the sales person,update the website for new product,purchasing and other as well (the one i am most don't like is i am need to doing like normal labour carry the shipment to warehouse when the container is arrive). then he give me a lot of reason say he want to expand he company la, so first i am need to do the job s as above i am mention just now with no actual date(mean i am don't know when my boss will hire another staff to handle the job such like warranty and marketing issue) bla bla bla....a lot reason is benefit for him( he can save a lot because hire one staff can responsible so many jobs and don't provide EPF funds also when the staff is still under probation). The end, he ask me to give a resignation letter to him and give some responsibility such like pass back the jobs i am not yet done to him(give some explanation to him about how to settle those jobs). So i am bring my resign letter to him another day, For my resign letter i am mention is termination of service to this company and he say this resign letter but he don't accept and he retype another resign letter for me and the content is mention i am cannot provide any information,secrecy,company materials,buisness strategy,customers database,product price struture,employee info and any form of materials to third party which may damages the goodwill,benefit and lost the his company and he will take legal action to me. So me also sign this letter then my boss say will remit my salary in a punctual time.
Until today is 7th of may 2009 i am still also not yet receive my salary without any reason because i am have call back to office asking the account department and they say boss want to hold my salary. So can you tell me what should i am do now?
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QUOTE(jg2008 @ May 7 2009, 02:27 AM)
hi aurora 97, i am face some problem such as i am resign almost one weeks but i am still not get my salary because my boss intentional to delay my salary with no reason.
Actually all the story is like this, i am resign at 20th of april 2009 and give a SMS notice(probation period) and my position is product executive. My offer letter is didn't mention need to give 24 hour notice so thats why i am just give a SMS notice to my boss because that day i think is over angry and my boss is not in office so i am just SMS notice. In between the few days, me and my boss is discuss what's the reason for my leaving. I am just telling him i am over work for him because my job also need to responsible marketing,warranty issue,some admin jobs such like record the warranty item to warranty book,update the pricelist for the sales person,update the website for new product,purchasing and other as well (the one i am most don't like is i am need to doing like normal labour carry the shipment to warehouse when the container is arrive). then he give me a lot of reason say he want to expand he company la, so first i am need to do the job s as above i am mention just now with no actual date(mean i am don't know when my boss will hire another staff to handle the job such like warranty and marketing issue) bla bla bla....a lot reason is benefit for him( he can save a lot because hire one staff can responsible so many jobs and don't provide EPF funds also when the staff is still under probation). The end, he ask me to give a resignation letter to him and give some responsibility such like pass back the jobs i am not yet done to him(give some explanation to him about how to settle those jobs). So i am bring my resign letter to him another day, For my resign letter i am mention is termination of service to this company and he say this resign letter but he don't accept and he retype another resign letter for me and the content is mention i am cannot provide any information,secrecy,company materials,buisness strategy,customers database,product price struture,employee info and any form of materials to third party which may damages the goodwill,benefit and lost the his company and he will take legal action to me. So me also sign this letter then my boss say will remit my salary in a punctual time.
Until today is 7th of may 2009 i am still also not yet receive my salary without any reason because i am have call back to office asking the account department and they say boss want to hold my salary. So can you tell me what should i am do now?
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Frankly after termination i dont see any reason why your boss continue holding on to your salary, unless of course there is still some issue lingering.

1st step:
Make sure you keep your resignation letter (to be produce as evidence later on)
Will basically you will need to write to them asking for an explanation as to why ur salary has been withhold.

This letter you will need to get acknowledgement receipt and give them a specific timeline to reply say 14 days.

2nd step:
Go to labour dept and file your complain.

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post May 17 2009, 09:52 PM

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hi aurora. i have an urgent question here. my contract with my current employer will be end on 7th June. provided in the offer letter stated that i must tender 1 month period of notice if i want to resign..my question is, if after my contract ended on the 7th june and they didnt offer me whether to extend my contract or confirmation do i need to tender my resign letter with one month notice period? or can i just resign within 24 hour?thanks in advance
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QUOTE(silhouette @ May 17 2009, 09:52 PM)
hi aurora. i have an urgent question here. my contract with my current employer will be end on 7th June. provided in the offer letter stated that i must tender 1 month period of notice if i want to resign..my question is, if after my contract ended on the 7th june and they didnt offer me whether to extend my contract or confirmation do i need to tender my resign letter with one month notice period? or can i just resign within 24 hour?thanks in advance
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I am assuming the following:

1. 1 year contract
2. ending 7th June 2009
3. tender 1 month notice to resign

Well this is what I am assuming cause i cannot see ur confirmation letter, (would prefer if u could give more details, especially whether ur contract mention anything about after the contract period?)

provided in the offer letter stated that i must tender 1 month period of notice if i want to resign.

reading this line aline i think u have to tender 1 month notice, regardless whether during or after the contracted period.

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Than again (I've asked a colleague of mine) if after the contracted period has expired, basically there's no more contract (provided they dont extend or continue or in other words "they kept quiet")..

Possibly u can tender 24hrs notice




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QUOTE(aurora97 @ May 18 2009, 02:16 PM)

Than again (I've asked a colleague of mine) if after the contracted period has expired, basically there's no more contract (provided they dont extend or continue or in other words "they kept quiet")..

Possibly u can tender 24hrs notice
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thanks aurora97!your answer has cleared my mind now rclxms.gif thumbup.gif thumbup.gif
so i can tender 24 hrs notice as they tend to keep quiet till now.serve them right! brows.gif brows.gif
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hi, regarding the content of offer letter, if it does not state about the bonus, does it means that there's no bonus for that particular position?

please advice. thanks!
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QUOTE(third_princess @ May 20 2009, 04:59 PM)
hi, regarding the content of offer letter, if it does not state about the bonus, does it means that there's no bonus for that particular position?

please advice. thanks!
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Wrong place to plaster your question, try posting it at Jobs & Careers...

Don;t want to derail the topic.
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post May 21 2009, 07:34 PM

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QUOTE(aurora97 @ May 21 2009, 09:22 AM)
Wrong place to plaster your question, try posting it at Jobs & Careers...

Don;t want to derail the topic.
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i'm sorry. i was reading the checklist for offer letter at the first page and i thought i could enquire bout the bonus in offer letter here. sorry ya..

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