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post Sep 26 2016, 06:53 PM

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QUOTE(chiahau @ Sep 26 2016, 03:23 PM)
1. By email still not yet official. Don't tender till you receive the letter.

2. Just wait. It's normal to conduct those things. Usually 1 or 2 weeks.
Usually there's a period for non compete. 6 months or 1 year. Check out your employment contract for that.

Company also must protect themselves from employees who might use their former positions for unfair advantage.
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'yup....3yrs...
they increase that from 2yrs to 3yrs....
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post Sep 26 2016, 07:41 PM

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QUOTE(maxsteel2001us @ Sep 26 2016, 06:53 PM)
'yup....3yrs...
they increase that from 2yrs to 3yrs....
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Then good luck manufacturing your way out.

Mine is standard 6 month only laugh.gif
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post Sep 27 2016, 10:28 AM

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QUOTE(chiahau @ Sep 26 2016, 07:41 PM)
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Then good luck manufacturing your way out.

Mine is standard 6 month only laugh.gif
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Yeah. So no need to work in that field d for 3 yrs. lucky I still got hand and leg, can work other field. sometimes, those contract are ridiculous and against the labour law. pity my colleagues that want to resign but when think about this contract, they can't resign directly without long planning.



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QUOTE(VFL @ Sep 25 2016, 05:10 PM)
Hi guys.Need your help
1) New employer promised to buy me out with the email confirmation where is no offer letter ready.Can I treat the email as official evidence to resign?
2) I ask to get the offer letter before resign but the new employer said it is not ready now. They need time for processing, like background screening etc..Will there be a possibility like this?What can I ask HR so that new employer can give me the offer letter?
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1) the method itself is convenient but if you ask me there's just too many what "if" and not enough answers.

Also, you are talking about your rise bowl, you can't have a situation where you have one feet in and another out. You don't want to be slammed by the door right?

2) Ask them how long it takes and what is the rush until have to issue email?

At least type one simple letter (on letterhead) signed by head of HR or CEO or senior management saying your employment is confirmed but pending issuance of "Letter of Offer". This will give you comfort to resign and not leave you guessing or hanging.


QUOTE(half_lif3 @ Sep 26 2016, 03:01 PM)
My situation here,

My offer letter do mention that 3 months of probation period and resign during probation will need 1 month notice. and after confirmation then i will need to serve 3 months notice.

Problem now I'm in my 4th month and I'm not given any formal or verbal notice that I'm a confirm staff. So I should be serving 1 month notice right?
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I really hate this type of employers. Say 3 months probation period but don't confirm you in the 4th month because they are undecided yet. At least have the courtesy to tell them that they are still on "extended" probation.

They should notify you in writing with a separate letter stating the change in your status, if no letter is forthcoming, it's likely your status has not changed.

Confirmed staff and probationary staff benefits (insurance, medical, annual leave) are different and it cost more to employ confirmed staff.
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post Sep 28 2016, 08:45 AM

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QUOTE(Fragden @ Sep 27 2016, 10:42 PM)
I got a luxury to serve 3 months notice for resignation. I am in the midst of finding a new job and realise it may be beneficial to resign now and when a new offer comes, I would only have to serve like a month notice per se. I did turn down a job offer once after considering I have to pay in lieu since most employers wouldn't want to wait 3 months for a new employee to come onboard.

My question is, can the employer exercise any right to terminate me earlier than 1 month notice? Cuz 3 months notice looks quite good to me now. Thanks!
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3 months notice only what?

You can throw the letter now and go job hunting as you serve your notice.

And yes, company can dismiss you immediately if you're found in breach of certain rules and regulation.

Or they can offer you to leave immediately without any form of repayment from your side.

This rarely happens thou unless you're a bad influence in the company. Most of the time, they rather let you rot in the office doing paperwork.

QUOTE(Fragden @ Sep 28 2016, 12:08 AM)
^ umm. In addition, I have been given a letter of insubordination saying, I have not been returning to office after sales call. The last one in August is 01 times, reduced than prior after I complied but they still wanted to intimidate me.

The other is where I had failed to apply for EL due to one day which I turn up to work by noon time due to personal matter. None of this is implied in the contract letter though. Just unofficial rules maybe.

Would love some advice if the company is in favourable position to legally terminate me. Thanks.
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As for the warning letters, its company policy. Can't really do much on that.

It's common sense for staff to return to office after their work is done outside ( barring any illogical circumstances like the time to return to office is super long / you have prior understanding with your boss to not come back or so forth )

As for EL, I would actually inform HR or person in charge via Whatsapp / SMS / Email to inform them that I have an emergency. Not sure about your company but if you have done that, don't see a reason why it's an issue.
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QUOTE(Fragden @ Sep 28 2016, 10:54 AM)
Thanks. It's actually a show cause letter (on returning to work). I did not reply within the 7 days. They left it on my table, expecting me to swallow it.

I want to resign, am I safe?
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It's safe to resign but I am not sure they will want you to serve the notice or not due to your behavior.

And if you do not answer the show cause letter, it can be deemed as a cause for dismissal.

With social media nowadays, they can easily screw you over when you work for a new employer if you are unlucky.

Best to be a good boy and apologize, tender your resignation and don't create trouble anymore till your last day.
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post Sep 28 2016, 12:30 PM

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3 months notice period is an advantage? hahaha

i need to serve 3 months notice after being confirm. not sure but i think is a disadvantage if you resign without a job offer
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post Sep 29 2016, 05:06 PM

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1. 3 months or 1 months’ notice > when you want to keep your job, the longer the notice period the better and vice versa. There’s no real benefit to it, also this will enable to company to search for replacement and for your to handover work.

2. whether to tender before or after finding a job. In my personal view, it’s best to secure a job first before tendering. At least such arrangement guarantee you a stable income. If the new employer is in urgent need of staff than they should consider buying out your remaining notice period.

3. if employer exercise right to terminate u earlier than your notice period without reason, I believe that will be unfair dismissal and a breach of your employment contract.

4. in the “addition” section. You are being subjected to a disciplinary (may not be subject to dismissal but suspension, withheld increment/bonus) OR dismissal process (immediate termination, pay pro-rata salary upto date of termination). The first stage is show cause and the next you will face a panel in a domestic enquiry.

I suggest you think through your answers before replying to the show cause letter, from here on end there’s nothing much I can comment or assist you.

Best you seek legal advice.

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post Nov 4 2016, 08:55 AM

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Hi is it better to resign or be terminated? What I get from googling is that it is better to be terminated.
Will future companies be able to know that I was fired?

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QUOTE(All 4 Once @ Nov 4 2016, 08:55 AM)
Hi is it better to resign or be terminated? What I get from googling is that it is better to be terminated.
Will future companies be able to know that I was fired?
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Terminated = not nice. Save yourself some dignity and time for future explanation.
Resign = Better compare to being terminated. At least you voluntary to leave the company in good terms.

Future companies might find out that you were fired after calling your previous employer. They have no obligations to cover your bekside. I think is best you cover your own and resign yourself unless you have a very valid reason that they terminate you with prejudice.
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QUOTE(Belphegor @ Nov 4 2016, 09:42 AM)
Terminated = not nice. Save yourself some dignity and time for future explanation.
Resign = Better compare to being terminated. At least you voluntary to leave the company in good terms.

Future companies might find out that you were fired after calling your previous employer. They have no obligations to cover your bekside. I think is best you cover your own and resign yourself unless you have a very valid reason that they terminate you with prejudice.
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Yea I thought so too. Was confused for a moment from all the googling results. Looks like the situation in western countries are far different from ours.
Thanks for your reply.
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QUOTE(All 4 Once @ Nov 4 2016, 08:55 AM)
Hi is it better to resign or be terminated? What I get from googling is that it is better to be terminated.
Will future companies be able to know that I was fired?
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better to resign than be terminated.. icon_rolleyes.gif
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I feel like resigning to change a line of job - in short, the current one was a bad fit and a mistake - but I'm only 1 month into this job. I know some of you may say I should stay longer to see if I can accommodate but I don't see any point staying and contributing only 10% of my capability/desire. Any advice for resigning a new job?

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QUOTE(ic3aaron @ Nov 8 2016, 02:29 PM)
I feel like resigning to change a line of job - in short, the current one was a bad fit and a mistake - but I'm only 1 month into this job. I know some of you may say I should stay longer to see if I can accommodate but I don't see any point staying and contributing only 10% of my capability/desire. Any advice for resigning a new job?
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I already working for 5 months in this company.
But I do feel like want to resign because the job is really really tiring. Physically tired not mentally.

Currently working in retail industry, I feel like want to give a try applying Customer Service. Is it a good move?
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hi all,

anyone know actually labour department is act for employee or just borrow a stage to a employee to let her/him act themselve?

i faced a lot of problems with them.

best regards,

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That moment when u signed new offer from new company & want to tender resign letter after current company just give out bonus, and giving new office cloth & new mobile phone..feel so bad heh... cry.gif
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post Dec 17 2016, 08:58 PM

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Hi all,

Need advice, Lets say my contract ends in another 2 week as stated in the letter..

Once it's over and not renewed do I need to inform the boss or can I just straight stop working on next day? I don't plan on continuing anyway..

I still have 14 day leave which I have not use and doesn't seem like will get approved, this job wants the employee to works 24/7 without OT pay while the basic pay is already bad enough.

Boss is always unreachable when called.

pls help, I'm really on the edge of suicide thought because of this.

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Hi, sorry for this noob question. Do I need to put my resignation letter into an envelope with all those "To: Director bla3.." and seal it when handing it to said person in the "To"? Because last time when I was in uni got this lecturer asked us to do such when we are absent from his class even when he's in his office and you are giving it to him straight face to face. 1 curious guy then ask that lecturer why need to do so he said next time when we already working bla3 every official thing need to do like that. I don't know how true is that that's why I'm asking here.

Btw, the person that I should be giving the letter is my Managing Director and he's always available, door opened, and sit just in the adjacent room. I never saw those that resigned before me do that and I also don't want to ask my other colleague, afraid later they ask me tons of question like why want to resign bla3 etc...

p/s: I already search for the keyword "envelope" in this thread but found none. Just in case someone already has the same query as me before.

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QUOTE(etsamloh @ Nov 28 2016, 02:58 PM)
hi all,

anyone know actually labour department is act for employee or just borrow a stage to a employee to let her/him act themselve?

i faced a lot of problems with them.

best regards,
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what england is this?

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