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post Jan 5 2017, 02:25 PM

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QUOTE(Acher13 @ Dec 17 2016, 08:58 PM)
Hi all,

Need advice, Lets say my contract ends in another 2 week as stated in the letter..

Once it's over and not renewed do I need to inform the boss or can I just straight stop working on next day? I don't plan on continuing anyway..

I still have 14 day leave which I have not use and doesn't seem like will get approved, this job wants the employee to works 24/7 without OT pay while the basic pay is already bad enough.

Boss is always unreachable when called.

pls help, I'm really on the edge of suicide thought because of this.
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post Apr 2 2017, 10:49 PM

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QUOTE(c2lia @ Dec 18 2016, 06:42 PM)
Hi, sorry for this noob question. Do I need to put my resignation letter into an envelope with all those "To: Director bla3.." and seal it when handing it to said person in the "To"? Because last time when I was in uni got this lecturer asked us to do such when we are absent from his class even when he's in his office and you are giving it to him straight face to face. 1 curious guy then ask that lecturer why need to do so he said next time when we already working bla3 every official thing need to do like that. I don't know how true is that that's why I'm asking here.

Btw, the person that I should be giving the letter is my Managing Director and he's always available, door opened, and sit just in the adjacent room. I never saw those that resigned before me do that and I also don't want to ask my other colleague, afraid later they ask me tons of question like why want to resign bla3 etc...

p/s: I already search for the keyword "envelope" in this thread but found none. Just in case someone already has the same query as me before.
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Hahahaha... I had never prepared envelope because the letter will be passed to HR for filling anyway.
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post May 18 2017, 02:51 PM

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QUOTE(c2lia @ Dec 18 2016, 06:42 PM)
Hi, sorry for this noob question. Do I need to put my resignation letter into an envelope with all those "To: Director bla3.." and seal it when handing it to said person in the "To"? Because last time when I was in uni got this lecturer asked us to do such when we are absent from his class even when he's in his office and you are giving it to him straight face to face. 1 curious guy then ask that lecturer why need to do so he said next time when we already working bla3 every official thing need to do like that. I don't know how true is that that's why I'm asking here.

Btw, the person that I should be giving the letter is my Managing Director and he's always available, door opened, and sit just in the adjacent room. I never saw those that resigned before me do that and I also don't want to ask my other colleague, afraid later they ask me tons of question like why want to resign bla3 etc...

p/s: I already search for the keyword "envelope" in this thread but found none. Just in case someone already has the same query as me before.
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Your lecturer's request is not something common haha biggrin.gif

For resignation in a company, it's not compulsory to put it in an envelope, but it's a courtesy innocent.gif
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post May 21 2017, 06:56 PM

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QUOTE(jknowsit @ Apr 2 2017, 10:49 PM)
Hahahaha... I had never prepared envelope because the letter will be passed to HR for filling anyway.
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QUOTE(jyp @ May 18 2017, 02:51 PM)
Your lecturer's request is not something common haha biggrin.gif

For resignation in a company, it's not compulsory to put it in an envelope, but it's a courtesy  innocent.gif
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Lol since there's no one answered me quickly when I post I just went away and proceed with the envelope. But that also alfter googling "resignation letter envelope" and some of the results did say it could be done so. I'm already resigned from that job for 2 months now as of today. Anyway, here's my experience on what I did in case someone else have the same curiosity:

1. Print 2 copies of the resignation letter.
2. Get a white envelope. Print (or write also can) on the envelope the "To: Director, {Company Name}, {Company Address}."
3. Fold and put the 1st letter into the envelope. No need to seal/glue the envelope. The second letter just leave it unfolded as nice as possible.
4. Wait for boss to be in his office. When he's finally there, go to him with both the envelope and the unfolded letter. Hand him the envelope and TELL HIM I'M RESIGNING. He showed a surprise face (I don't know whether it's due to the envelope of because I'm resigning biggrin.gif ). He opened the envelope and read2 the letter and start his interrogation. When the questioning ends, I asked him whether he need the unfolded one. He said ok just leave it there, at least no need to photocopy to the secretary cum HR biggrin.gif .

That's all! rclxm9.gif
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post May 24 2017, 11:48 PM

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Hi all,

I have a situation where I’m not sure whether I should continue to fight for my resignation date. I need your advice.

I had tendered my resignation letter on 28/4, I have to serve 3 months’ notice.

My new employer is willing to buy out my 1 month notice so my resignation date should fall on 27/6 (Buy out from 28/6 – 27/7).

However, my current employer insisted that 27/6 is a Public Holiday and the buy out should start from 24/6 instead, which is more than 1 month. In other words, I have to pay for notice in lieu for 24/6 – 27/6 on my own.

Is this a normal practice by HR? Is there anything I can do about it? Thanks in advance.

This post has been edited by invisible_wings: May 24 2017, 11:49 PM
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post May 26 2017, 03:00 PM

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QUOTE(c2lia @ May 21 2017, 06:56 PM)
Lol since there's no one answered me quickly when I post I just went away and proceed with the envelope. But that also alfter googling "resignation letter envelope" and some of the results did say it could be done so. I'm already resigned from that job for 2 months now as of today. Anyway, here's my experience on what I did in case someone else have the same curiosity:

1. Print 2 copies of the resignation letter.
2. Get a white envelope. Print (or write also can) on the envelope the "To: Director, {Company Name}, {Company Address}."
3. Fold and put the 1st letter into the envelope. No need to seal/glue the envelope. The second letter just leave it unfolded as nice as possible.
4. Wait for boss to be in his office. When he's finally there, go to him with both the envelope and the unfolded letter. Hand him the envelope and TELL HIM I'M RESIGNING. He showed a surprise face (I don't know whether it's due to the envelope of because I'm resigning  biggrin.gif ). He opened the envelope and read2 the letter and start his interrogation. When the questioning ends, I asked him whether he need the unfolded one. He said ok just leave it there, at least no need to photocopy to the secretary cum HR  biggrin.gif .

That's all!  rclxm9.gif
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post May 26 2017, 03:15 PM

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QUOTE(invisible_wings @ May 24 2017, 11:48 PM)
Hi all,

I have a situation where I’m not sure whether I should continue to fight for my resignation date. I need your advice.

I had tendered my resignation letter on 28/4, I have to serve 3 months’ notice.

My new employer is willing to buy out my 1 month notice so my resignation date should fall on 27/6 (Buy out from 28/6 – 27/7).

However, my current employer insisted that 27/6 is a Public Holiday and the buy out should start from 24/6 instead, which is more than 1 month. In other words, I have to pay for notice in lieu for 24/6 – 27/6 on my own.

Is this a normal practice by HR? Is there anything I can do about it? Thanks in advance.
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That's a tough one. do you have any AL left?
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post May 26 2017, 10:10 PM

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QUOTE(jyp @ May 26 2017, 03:15 PM)
That's a tough one. do you have any AL left?
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Yes, I still have few days AL but I'm planning to encash them.
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post May 27 2017, 12:18 AM

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QUOTE(jyp @ May 26 2017, 03:00 PM)
ah... i see. thanks so sharing!  laugh.gif how's the new job?
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post May 29 2017, 07:04 PM

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QUOTE(invisible_wings @ May 26 2017, 10:10 PM)
Yes, I still have few days AL but I'm planning to encash them.
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I spoke to my friend in HR. They say the buy out should be 27/6 eventhough it's a public holiday.
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post May 29 2017, 07:07 PM

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QUOTE(c2lia @ May 27 2017, 12:18 AM)
Not working yet. Haven't look for job either. Just enjoying my free time now  whistling.gif
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post Jun 8 2017, 08:31 AM

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guys,

1) how do you all go for job interview if you have a job atm? Other than applying for annual leave, what excuse would you give to your employer?

2) my notice period is 2 months, how do you convince future employers to wait for you?

kindly advise.

thank you.
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post Jun 9 2017, 01:13 AM

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QUOTE(jyp @ May 29 2017, 07:04 PM)
I spoke to my friend in HR. They say the buy out should be 27/6 eventhough it's a public holiday.
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I checked with my HR, my company practice is buy out start on the day after my last physical working day in the company. Anyway, I changed my last working day to mid-week, so I still get paid over the weekend and PH. rclxms.gif
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post Jun 14 2017, 03:54 PM

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QUOTE(invisible_wings @ May 24 2017, 11:48 PM)
Hi all,

I have a situation where I’m not sure whether I should continue to fight for my resignation date. I need your advice.

I had tendered my resignation letter on 28/4, I have to serve 3 months’ notice.

My new employer is willing to buy out my 1 month notice so my resignation date should fall on 27/6 (Buy out from 28/6 – 27/7).

However, my current employer insisted that 27/6 is a Public Holiday and the buy out should start from 24/6 instead, which is more than 1 month. In other words, I have to pay for notice in lieu for 24/6 – 27/6 on my own.

Is this a normal practice by HR? Is there anything I can do about it? Thanks in advance.
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Your 1st day of your notice period starts from the date you tender the resignation to your manager & HR. If your new employer stated they'll pay your 1-month salary in lieu, then so long as you fulfilled the 2-months including the public holidays and weekends, you are fine. In your case, 27th is a government public holiday, so you are supposed to be on holiday, but your salary is to be paid by your current employer. Ask HR to show you how they calculate your daily salary, I'm sure they'll likely tell you your monthly salary divided by 22 days. If that's the case, mean regardless of a public holiday that falls on weekdays, they'll have to pay your salary.
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post Jun 20 2017, 03:42 PM

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QUOTE(invisible_wings @ Jun 9 2017, 01:13 AM)
I checked with my HR, my company practice is buy out start on the day after my last physical working day in the company. Anyway, I changed my last working day to mid-week, so I still get paid over the weekend and PH.  rclxms.gif
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post Jun 20 2017, 06:01 PM

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post Jun 30 2017, 02:00 PM

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Dear All,

A close friend of mine (not me, srsly) has tendered her resignation from the company not too long ago.

The resignation has been accepted and her last day and notice period was informed to her a week after the resignation. She suppose to serve her notice up till mid of August.

However, just after the raya holiday, she was told that she has been relocate/transfer and assigned a "special task" to an store outlet reporting to store manager under operation team. She is a HQ senior exec level staff.

Her superior verbally claim that such changes are due to 'conflict of interest' but never justify the misconduct she has committed without solid proof/evidence.

Such changes is deem as a serious demotion, insults and inconveniences due to the fact that she travels to work straight from walking to LRT nearby house and the LRT will be able to reach her office straightly.

Her offer letter clearly stated her as HQ staff that clocks in at 8.30am and out at 6.30pm as a senior exec. level staff responsible of doing merchandising/buying task but also she company has the right to ask employee to transfer. But did not include clause that states the employee must be able to travel, as she is a desk bound job.

The reassignment/transfer will be a major variation from her existing job scope and no official memo was given to her. Only thing is a JD. She was told to clock in at 8.30 at HQ but disallowed to enter office and then travel to the assigned outlet and wait for the shopping mall to open at 10am then she may allows to leave at 6.30pm. This is considered lenient as they deserve the right to ask her to follow the operation shift time of 10am to 10pm.

To her, this is completely unacceptable and she ask to leave the company immediately. The company then without hesitation offer her 2 optinos. Option 1 being that she leaves immediately but without salary/compensation pay-in lieu up to the last day of her notice period. The company will only pay her until the day after raya and the balance of her AL.

If she refuse, then she must take option 2 and go to outlet store to serve her remaining notice period there and disallowed to enter the HQ office. This utterly absurd arrangement and a trick by the company to force people out without paying them the compensation.

Because of the transfer and reassignment is done in such a short notice and the nature of it being a serious demotion and variation from the existing job plus an insults to her, in a way it is a dismissal forced by the company instead of the staff asking to leave.

Anyone know what is her rights and would it be fair to demand the company to compensate the salary up till the last day of the notice period?

Thanks

This post has been edited by NicJolin: Jun 30 2017, 02:36 PM
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post Jul 5 2017, 10:08 AM

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Hello everyone.

Based on your experiences, usually what are the factors that would induce the new employer to buy out a new employee from serving his/her notice period?

I'm working in the accounting field and thinking of resigning and start afresh. My current employer is a very small accounting firm (1 boss, 2 staff) - unfortunately with lack of standard procedures and not much of professionalism.

My thought is that it's highly unlikely for accounting firms to buy out a new employee (might as well hire another who can start immediately) but I wanna hear your opinions.

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post Jul 6 2017, 10:02 AM

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Another question:

From what I've read in this forum, the current employer may waive the notice period despite what the employment contract says?
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post Jul 6 2017, 04:25 PM

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QUOTE(Asenav @ Jul 6 2017, 10:02 AM)
Another question:

From what I've read in this forum, the current employer may waive the notice period despite what the employment contract says?
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